Oh No He di'nt!

What a load of old rubbish.

"There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American," Nader said.

How's that for accuracy? The man is half African by birth, wholly American by background and as for acting or speaking white... what? He was raised by a white family, he is as white as he is black. Why on earth shouldn't he sound like his mother rather than his father?

Anyway, if he wanted to emulate his father, he'd be in Africa now having abandoned his daughters, speaking Swahili. Not listening to rap and wearing baggy pants in da hood.

I don't know if this was ever posted here but I feel confident about those that were elected as compared to those that were not because of a multitude of reasons but this really stands out to me...

Obama:
DOB: 10/4/1961 – Honolulu, Hawaii

Education:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. politic al science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

IL State Senate 1997 - 2004
US Senate 2004 – present

&

Biden:
DOB: 11/20/1942 – Scranton, PA

Education:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

US Senate 1972 – present (5th youngest person to be elected to US senate)
Chairman Foreign Relations Committee

or

McCain:
DOB: 10/29/1936 – Panama Canal Zone

Education:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

US house of representatives 1982-1986
US senate 1986 – present


&

Palin:
DOB: 2/11/1964 – Sandpoint, Idaho
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Mayor of Wasilla 1996-2002
Govenor of Alaska 2006 - present

It's over, who cares.

TheMercenary;501391 wrote:

It's over, who cares.

obviously you do.

sore loser

I didn't loose any thing. I didn't vote for either one.

Brianna;501392 wrote:

obviously you do.

How do you figure?

Oh, now you're playing Mister Obvious, right?

Ummm ok, whatever.

Nader needs to realize that if Obama didn't "act white", he would have no chance of winning the election. Look how the public took Reverend Wright.

I don't think Obama "acts white". He acts like Obama. But what he does not do is buy into the idea that to be a known as a black man he needs to play into a sterotype of eubonics and playing a race card to get ahead. He may have done so in the past but at this point in time I am going to give him a chance to maintain a sense of honor and decorum on the office and the responsibility he is about to take.

piercehawkeye45;501410 wrote:

Nader needs to realize that if Obama didn't "act white", he would have no chance of winning the election. Look how the public took Reverend Wright.

Obama acts like himself and Reverend White does not "act black" he acts like a bigot!

TheMercenary;501416 wrote:

I don't think Obama "acts white". He acts like Obama. But what he does not do is buy into the idea that to be a known as a black man he needs to play into a sterotype of eubonics and playing a race card to get ahead. He may have done so in the past but at this point in time I am going to give him a chance to maintain a sense of honor and decorum on the office and the responsibility he is about to take.

I don't know if playing the race card would be considered acting black, but putting black interests ahead of white interests. If Obama focused more on black interests, there is no way in hell he would have gotten elected.

Obama made his campaign on helping the middle class not the lower class. There are many other reasons as well that point that his target audience are middle class whites.


Not that its bad thing...just that he knew the only way he could be elected was by doing such.

piercehawkeye45;501450 wrote:

Obama made his campaign on helping the middle class not the lower class. There are many other reasons as well that point that his target audience are middle class whites.


Not that its bad thing...just that he knew the only way he could be elected was by doing such.

I am trying real hard not to read racism in your comments but I have to ask, do you think all black people are lower class?

The ones he comes in contact with are... inner city youth perspective.

No, its a generalization. Blacks have the second lowest average income out of all America's "racial" groups so just saying lower class is an easy way not to go into a 2 page report covering my ass.


After second thoughts, we are probably both talking about the around the same thing Merc but that I rarely believe that a politician acts like himself or herself so I naturally jump to an "so an so is putting on a front" conclusion. It will be impossible to tell.

Nirvana, where the fuck are you getting the idea you might?? Or that he might??

piercehawkeye45;501410 wrote:

Nader needs to realize that if Obama didn't "act white", he would have no chance of winning the election. Look how the public took Reverend Wright.

What? Just as McCain realized that he'd better not act "like a poor Southern cracker," or he would have no chance of winning the election? Look at how Bubba shot the jukebox. :eyebrow:

Urbane Guerrilla;501460 wrote:

Nirvana, where the fuck are you getting the idea you might?? Or that he might??

I might or who might what? I have no idea what you are talking about but if you are going to use unnecessary expletives I guess I should move on to more intelligent conversation. :rolleyes:

piercehawkeye45;501459 wrote:

After second thoughts, we are probably both talking about the around the same thing Merc but that I rarely believe that a politician acts like himself or herself so I naturally jump to an "so an so is putting on a front" conclusion. It will be impossible to tell.

I would agree but I am trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I want to believe his intentions are honorable and his path will be true. He has some huge expectations to fill IMHO.

Ah, shut up and hug. It's settled.

Seriously. I would rather have wine than sour grapes.

Shawnee123;501808 wrote:

Seriously. I would rather have whine than sour grapes.

Easy fix.

Good saying either way I think.

TheMercenary;501401 wrote:

I didn't loose any thing. I didn't vote for either one.

How curious. Why? You implied you might do that. Why did you not vote - for them or for anyone?

tw;502342 wrote:

How curious. Why? You implied you might do that. Why did you not vote - for them or for anyone?

I voted for someone, not them.

TheMercenary;502381 wrote:

I voted for someone, not them.

Was Ralph Nader also on your ballot?

So he could grouse about whoever won, and say I didn't vote for him. It's a cop out.

Nirvana;501656 wrote:

I might or who might what? I have no idea what you are talking about but if you are going to use unnecessary expletives I guess I should move on to more intelligent conversation. :rolleyes:

why the fuck is it so goddamned wrong to pepper your fucking speech with unnecessary expla-fucking-tives? And how in the cock are you offended by it?

LJ stop sticking your fucking nose into other people's private internet conversations, you fucker, or I'll have to get my mate Chris Rock to come round and fuck you over.

LJ and SG all your expletives were totally fucking necessary! ;)

... not.

But...but...the unnecessary expletives are the best ones...


I mean...fuck me sideways, when are expletives ever necessary? Desirable, effective, appropriate (or gloriously inappropriate)...but necessary?

Good point Dana, but it may be that facetiousness is necessary.

*nods slowly* ok. I can go with that.

DanaC;503237 wrote:

But...but...the unnecessary expletives are the best ones...


I mean...fuck me sideways, when are expletives ever necessary? Desirable, effective, appropriate (or gloriously inappropriate)...but necessary?

When you are moved so to exercise their right to be heard to effect the emotional affect you desire to exhibit.

Nirvana;501454 wrote:

I am trying real hard not to read racism in your comments but I have to ask, do you think all black people are lower class?

This is the remark Nirvana couldn't remember making. It is the remark to which I replied.

We now return you to the rest of this thread, which is really a lot more fun. Particularly the second page.

So there. It shall be written. It shall be done.