Woot woot you late voting motherfucking states can go fuck yourselves

footfootfoot • Nov 4, 2008 11:09 pm
so a whole pile of states haven't turned in their results yet, but Obama has 324 electoral college votes. woot

Still, It's gotta make you feel "Hey don't my vote count?"
Dr. Zaius • Nov 4, 2008 11:13 pm
footfootfoot;501152 wrote:
Still, It's gotta make you feel "Hey don't my vote count?"


Those early voting states have picked my governor....senator...representatives? Damn. I'm staying home.
DanaC • Nov 4, 2008 11:15 pm
*cheers wildly*

Fucking hell. I am in awe. We (restoftheworld) are watching America with awe. I cannot believe this has happened in my life time. This could not happen in England.

This is why America is the light on the hill.
elSicomoro • Nov 4, 2008 11:41 pm
Yeah, but you guys put a broad in charge first. ;)
Radar • Nov 4, 2008 11:44 pm
Woo Hoo!!! I did my part and voted for Obama, and against the gay marriage ban, and the requirement for girls to notify their parents about abortion. I would like to add, John McCain showed a lot of class, and grace in his concession speech.
DanaC • Nov 4, 2008 11:45 pm
@ Syc: True. As time passes, and the wounds heal (*smiles*) I see her more and more as a trail blazer and less as a wolf in sheeps clothing.

We still have very poor female participation in politics though. And female presence in top executive positions in the city and industry is actually reducing. I think we've actually taken a step back in numbers in the House of Commons as well.
Trilby • Nov 4, 2008 11:46 pm
I'm sooooo happy!!! I can do my happy dance now!

(I'm also exhausted as I was up so early to go vote zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 4, 2008 11:54 pm
Radar, Libertarians don't vote for socialists -- if they're libertarian. We'll need more balance in Washington than we'll be getting over the next couple of years, I fear.
DanaC • Nov 4, 2008 11:55 pm
Libertarians dont tell people how to vote, if they're libertarian. Libertarians don't attach themselves to a party ticket that binds them politically to a fixed set of ideological tenets and loyalties.
elSicomoro • Nov 4, 2008 11:56 pm
I believe this is the counterbalance to 8 years of a Republican presidency and 12 of 14 years of Republican congressional control.
DanaC • Nov 4, 2008 11:56 pm
Urbane Guerrilla;501192 wrote:
Radar, Libertarians don't vote for socialists -- if they're libertarian. We'll need more balance in Washington than we'll be getting over the next couple of years, I fear.



lol. Yeah, 'cause the word that immediately springs to mind when considering the last eight years in Washington, is 'balance'.
BigV • Nov 5, 2008 12:12 am
footfootfoot;501152 wrote:
so a whole pile of states haven't turned in their results yet, but Obama has 324 electoral college votes. woot

Still, It's gotta make you feel "Hey don't my vote count?"


After you have built your house, does the first wall erected disdain the last wall to be put up? Where would your home be without all four walls? Do you really want nothing between you and, say, Alaska?
Radar • Nov 5, 2008 12:14 am
Urbane Guerrilla;501192 wrote:
Radar, Libertarians don't vote for socialists -- if they're libertarian. We'll need more balance in Washington than we'll be getting over the next couple of years, I fear.


Obama was the most libertarian candidate running including Bob Barr.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 5, 2008 12:15 am
The word springing immediately to my mind is "footdragging." I've been quite pleased over the last seven years with how the Federal level of government has largely confined its central effort to foreign policy -- this outward concentration has minimized any tendency to meddle with the nation in the manner so characteristic of the Clinton Administration. That's how I prefer things to go in our Republic.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 5, 2008 12:17 am
Radar;501219 wrote:
Obama was the most libertarian candidate running including Bob Barr.


Radar: no.

You'd really be a better man if you could pass an entire day without lying on the political forum, you know.

Actually, you don't know.

Now Dana, party people do. Think about it half a minute.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 5, 2008 12:21 am
@ Dana... It looks like 17 women in the Senate, too. :D
Radar • Nov 5, 2008 12:39 am
I never lie on this or any other forum or in person. I realize you know absolutely nothing about being a libertarian, and it's got to be disappointing that a war monger lost, and you think America's military is here to start unprovoked wars against other nations that pose no harm to ours, but today the better man and the more libertarian man won.

Now we can get to work ending the unconstitutional, unwarranted, unreasonable, and unlibertarian war in Iraq as quickly as possible.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 5, 2008 12:43 am
Sorry, Radar, but the evidence goes against your word. I'll take the evidence, thanks, over your narcissistic disorder. There is no libertarian in Obama's makeup, unless he's been cozening the socialist base the whole campaign.

The crushing of ultrastatism is a necessary thing, Radar, to any man of freedom. It is not necessary to you.
DanaC • Nov 5, 2008 12:53 am
xoxoxoBruce;501226 wrote:
@ Dana... It looks like 17 women in the Senate, too. :D


Awesome!
Radar • Nov 5, 2008 1:39 am
Urbane Guerrilla;501248 wrote:
Sorry, Radar, but the evidence goes against your word. I'll take the evidence, thanks, over your narcissistic disorder. There is no libertarian in Obama's makeup, unless he's been cozening the socialist base the whole campaign.

The crushing of ultrastatism is a necessary thing, Radar, to any man of freedom. It is not necessary to you.



Whatever psycho. Facts, truth, history, and reason are all on my side. You've got nothing on your side but your psychosis, and stupidity.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 5, 2008 1:47 am
Aha. Defeated by history and truth, you leap instanter to namecalling, like that'd prove diddly. Typical of your "thinking," and why you don't have friends, Paul. The merest prick to your exaggerated amour-propre, and bang! like a balloon.
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2008 1:54 am
Whatever psychos! You're both defeated by the awesome rainbow shit of Obama. So shut up and hug because we're succeeding in putting the racist history we have behind us.
elSicomoro • Nov 5, 2008 2:14 am
Now that's HOF material!
ZenGum • Nov 5, 2008 4:26 am
Seconded!

:lol:


Although that UG/Radar exchange was kinda :corn: :)
TheMercenary • Nov 5, 2008 7:10 am
morethanpretty;501286 wrote:
Whatever psychos! You're both defeated by the awesome rainbow shit of Obama. So shut up and hug because we're succeeding in putting the racist history we have behind us.

I agree, there can be no more excuses, no more race cards. Let's move forward as one.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 5, 2008 12:24 pm
I agree with Merc. The silver lining immediately visible is that the race-hustlers' "Myth of the Hobbled Black" is now exploded, even if the fragments haven't hit the ground yet.

Race-hustlers were the kind of people Ken Hamblin used to give a pasting to, particularly in his books.
Radar • Nov 5, 2008 2:00 pm
I'm happy the race thing is behind us, and I'm happy the most libertarian candidate won.
TheMercenary • Nov 5, 2008 7:17 pm
This was interesting.

http://www.bybriangoodman.com/?p=27
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 8, 2008 11:14 pm
No senior Democrat is offering even a single libertarian policy, Radar -- it's all socialist bread-and-circuses coupled with substitutes-for-victory. You're not doing too well on the ol' rationality meter there. What you are doing is showing your true colors as a toe-tag Democrat.
tw • Nov 8, 2008 11:23 pm
From the Washington Post of 8 Nov 2008:
Harsh Words About Obama? Never Mind Now
That whole anti-American, friend-to-the-terrorists thing about President-elect Barack Obama? Never mind.

Just a few weeks ago, at the height of the campaign, Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota told Chris Matthews of MSNBC that, when it came to Mr. Obama, “I’m very concerned that he may have anti-American views.”

But there she was on Wednesday, after narrowly escaping defeat because of those comments, saying she was “extremely grateful that we have an African-American who has won this year.” ...

The shift in tone follows the magnanimous concession speech from Mr. McCain, of Arizona, who referred to Mr. Obama’s victory Tuesday night as “a historic election” and hailed the “special pride” it held for African-Americans.

The presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin said she was hard-pressed to find a similar moment when the tone had changed so drastically, and so quickly, among so many people of such prominence.

“I don’t think that’s happened very often,” Ms. Goodwin said. “The best answer I can give you is they don’t want to be on the wrong side of history, and they recognize how the country saw this election, and how people feel that they’re living in a time of great historic moment.” ...

There are notable exceptions: Rush Limbaugh has given no quarter.
Another extremist is also exceptional.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 8, 2008 11:32 pm
TheMercenary;501647 wrote:
This was interesting.

http://www.bybriangoodman.com/?p=27


Yes it is, I was having the same thoughts. Well if you're not tall enough for roundball, or big enough for football, you don't have to be a drug dealer, you can be the goddamn president.

Now get with the program and help your white Bros, fight the wetbacks... and the chinks... and the canucks. :lol2:
footfootfoot • Nov 9, 2008 9:23 am
BigV;501216 wrote:
After you have built your house, does the first wall erected disdain the last wall to be put up? Where would your home be without all four walls? Do you really want nothing between you and, say, Alaska?


While your analogy is very poetic it might fit better in another situation. I see this more akin to a bunch of guys hanging out watching the game and arguing about whether to order Chinese take out or Pizza. Eventually all but two of the guys decide on Pizza and go ahead and order it. After some time passes the two guys who hadn't cast their votes chime in with their preference. It doesn't really matter if they wanted Chinese or Pizza because the pizza delivery guy is pulling into the driveway.
Clodfobble • Nov 9, 2008 1:00 pm
But realistically, even if they'd spoken up sooner, they'd still have been outnumbered anyway.
footfootfoot • Nov 9, 2008 10:11 pm
Clodfobble;502656 wrote:
But realistically, even if they'd spoken up sooner, they'd still have been outnumbered anyway.

Only if they'd wanted Chinese, otherwise they'd be on the bandwagon.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 10, 2008 9:44 am
Yeah, but they didn't have to pay the pizza guy. ;)
TheMercenary • Nov 14, 2008 8:14 am
xoxoxoBruce;502549 wrote:

Now get with the program and help your white Bros, fight the wetbacks... and the chinks... and the canucks. :lol2:

:lol2: Esp the Canadians. :D