VOTE!
Please, don't forget to vote!
Make your mark on history!
I always vote. If I don't, I get a fine.
Does that mean you've voted today, Ali? :p
yeah...early and often. ;)
I voted two weeks ago.
Some people must not forget to vote. Others may have forgotten who they voted for.
I voted. got there at 5.40 (polls opened at 6.30) and it STILL took about an hour. It was crazy-nutty at the polls with poll workers looking like deer caught in the headlights. Poor souls.
I voted a few weeks ago. My commute takes me past my polling place though, and today the line was outside the door and it looked like about a 20 minute wait to even get in the building.
The Obama campaign was out in force, with people on the major street corners, waving huge signs trying to get cars to honk in reply. Reminded me of a pep club car wash in High School. (Times ten.)
Voted by absentee about a week and a half ago.
I voted on Saturday, since I am working out of my county, at a new job and all.
It was packed but I was in and out in like 15 minutes. I'm thinking of a letter to the editor to commend the volunteers.
My brother was there. I'm quite sure we cancelled each other's votes, on most things. ;)
He said he was feeling a bit dis-en-french-fried, though.
He's a nut.
Three of us went 15 minutes after polls open.
The line was longer than I've ever seen, about 100 yards beyond the door.
People were in good spirits. The line moved quickly, the county anticipated turnout and ordered extra machines.
I went this morning, 20 min after the polls opened. 20 min after that, I was on my way to work :).
I voted a week or so ago. :)
I was the 103rd person in line (by my count) when the polls opened this morning. There were only ten people in line by the time I left. Really not freaking cool.
I voted last week. Glad it is finally going to be over so we can get on with the bidness of the issues of today.
Yeah, like the legal challenges, and the recounts.
taxation without representation :mad:
Oh, the irony
You want to know what's even cooler, Facebook is very active in telling people to vote, there's applications telling people to vote and who they support and everything. I think the college vote will be a major factor :)
I agree,
VOTE! (
For Flint)
I made my mark this morning for McCain and several other Republicans -- for I do not trust the Democratic Party, and believe they should not be encouraged. Obama's ridiculous promises of bread and circuses -- they looked like he was trying to buy the election -- left me altogether unmoved, as have the Democrats' offerings for the last eighteen years straight. Since the Democrats have such a big problem with eliminating undemocracies, I have a big problem with the Democrats. At the least, it's untruth in advertising, how they say they are democrats, and then do nothing, indeed actively oppose any effort, to take away tyranny and abet democracy.
The American electorate fairly often favors a division of power between its Big Two political parties, so the one checks and balances the other. I hope today for a Republican, and a war fighter, in the Executive, to balance the Democratic-controlled Legislative.
Nothing too tough for lines in the precinct; I stood in line about five minutes and was out the door in ten more, about an hour and a half from time of polls opening at 7 a.m. PST. They'd already had 102 voters in before me.
I'd vote for you honey, but Texas is a GOP state...
So, after voting at around 11:00 this morning (virtually no line, unless you count that my mother walked in ahead of me), momwolf and I went out to breakfast.
I thought we'd just have a nice, quiet meal ... no luck.
Without realizing it, I picked the only diner in the country that has a feed from
CNBC ALL DAY.
I was number 0001. I actually wasn't the first one there but he was engrossed in a conversation when they were ready for the first vote so i went first. Griff was number 0007 about 10 minutes later. I guess you can see by those stats that we don't have a problem with lines.
Everybody remember to go to Starbucks for your free coffee.
(I forgot to go to Taco Hell last week for my free taco)
Please, don't forget to vote!
Make your mark on history!
It's that time again.
GO OUT AND VOTE!
I don't think there's anything to vote for in my jurisdiction.
My son is once again sick & home from school (had a blood test for mono today). So he accompanied me to the polls, filled in the little bubbles for me, and whooshed it through the machine. We have 5 local issues to vote on, city council, and an extremely heated school board election.
I have a school board candidate's sign in my yard. I didn't want to, really, but she's my son's friend's mom. ::shrug::
Another friend's mom is our state senator.
Life in a small town.
okay, I'm wrong. There are some state constitutional amendments relating to taxation and financing I could vote on. This was not well publicized in my opinion. Of course, I could be reading all those rape stories and not paying attention to this. :(
I voted. I was the least motivated I've ever been in this election. I voted for the Democrat for Virginia governor. He's going to lose, and he deserves to. His campaign sucked. This guy would be a Charlie Brown governor, and the Republican is this charismatic good looking guy who would be a fairly strong leader but would lead in the wrong direction. So I voted for Charlie Brown. Ho hum.
In the local issues, we only have one guy running for school board. The last school board election, we had 6 people running, including this guy, and he was by far the least qualified and dumbest of the bunch. For some reason, none of them are running again this time and he's going to get it just because he filled out the form.
We have a county board member up for reelection. He's fine, but I voted for the other guy just to send a message that I'd like a county board that isn't 100% of one party. The guy I voted for will lose though.
What a depressing election.
I'll be curious to see what Maine does with their gay marriage question.
Juni? Casinos?
For or against, it's a pretty important vote. Watch Moral and Pure Ohio vote it down again.
Casinos, a health levy, libraries, bonds to benefit veterans, and the farm animals board. I'm not going to talk about the other four, but I really hope the library levy passes. I heart libraries.
I'm not in your country, but I hope your library levy passes too.
We have a county library levy, and the county park district...both worthy of a yea vote for me.
Our school system can bite me: all they ever do is ask for money and threaten to cut extracurriculars. Every year with the alarmist crap. The big wigs who basically own the town and control business can foot that scam, for all I care.
I'm not in your country
Ohio seceded? Whoo hoo! :lol:
LMAO.
Um, er, ahem...I meant county.
Too funny.
Is it wrong that I just cast my vote for Constable for Pius Nark?
That is really his name. Actually he was out in front of my polling station when I voted, introduced himself, and pleasantly asked for my support.
I did not have the courage to tell him I was voting for him because I like saying "Constable Nark."
The rest of the voting had to do with judgeshiips, and judge retentions. I had a list of judges to work from, but had to flip coins on the voting to retain.
I missed my chance to vote. I registered back in April, but the registrar of voters didn't send me a sample ballot or let me know where the polling place was.
What? Substandard election processes in Florida??? I have never heard the like of it before! This is outrageous!!
Seriously man. This is the first election of any kind I've missed in about 12 years. I'm going to call the ROV tomorrow.
Town of around 16 or 17 thousand, so I guess there must be 7 or 8 thousand voters. Got there at 12:45pm, no waiting, I was #96 for the day. :(
You see numbers of that kind in by-elections. The poll workers don't quite go to sleep, but... well, they have plenty of time for chatting amongst themselves or with the voter who just put his ballot into the optical reader's slot.
My mother-in-law is a teacher in a poor county where they had a vote on a school bond awhile back. It failed, crushing all her coworkers' hopes for adequate school supplies and salary raises and lower student-to-teacher ratios, etc. At the next district meeting, the rather pissed-off superintendant asked every teacher who had not voted in the election to raise their hands. He then nodded and informed them that there were enough of them in the room that, had they all voted for the bond, it would have passed. The turnout for small-time local elections is staggeringly low (full disclosure: I did not vote yesterday either.)
.... I did not vote yesterday either.)
Don't you love democracy?
Everyone I voted for yesterday, and every election and issue I was watching from afar and cared about, either failed or lost. Oh well.
I wonder if my sperm count will go down?This past Sunday, I voted with my Mom.
Yesterday, I hung out with BelovedDaughter as she voted.
Today, I chatted with EldestSon and his first remark was "I put my ballot in the mail today".
These things make me very very happy!
Well, sometimes I wonder why. This time, must be 15 running for sheriff. Anyone who can't see that this a thing to split the F!@#$ vote is nuts. The rest suck!!!!
my city is cooler than your city (probably, statistically speaking) (even if they can't make sure their PDFs are scanned straight)
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"Shall the people of Burlington support the legalization, regulation, and taxation of of all cannabis and hemp products?"
Easily the second-simplest vote I have to consider, after President. In fact, Vermont's safely-Democratic electoral votes mean that I can consider a third party without hurting Obama's re-election chances. This might be THE simplest vote I can cast.
The other questions require more thought.
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1 and 2 I'm definitely voting Yes on. What can I say, I'm a commie. I'm all for issuing more bonds (especially since 1 is actually MUCH more cost-effective than relying on short-term debt), and the waterfront revitalization efforts would definitely be beneficial to our tourism, economy, and quality of life.
3, on the other hand, I'm desperately torn. On one hand, I fully support any form of transportation that's more efficient than driving one's own car...
on the other hand I lose my shit around bikers and drive slower than they can pedal to make sure i don't have to worry about trying to pass them and risk running them over because I drive like a grandmother, and i'll be damned if i make it easier for those damn dirty hippies to make it MORE likely for me to freak out about slowing up the long string of cars that inevitably pile up behind me as I drive at like eight MPH.
I'll probably vote Yes out of responsibleness but i really won't like it. damn bikers.
Your local dept of elections or whatever almost certainly has posted your local ballot online. Post it here, even if you don't want to tell us how you're voting! Share your local democracy!
As much as I criticise the US electoral system, I have to say, I like and admire these ballot initiatives. We almost never have things like this. I'm pretty sure a lot of things - cannabis and same-sex marriage, for two - would be supported that lobby-scared pollies won't back.
Pooka and I voted early. It is so easy and so convenient, I don't know why everyone doesn't vote early. Go ahead and get it done--what if something comes up on election day and prevents you from getting there? Don't sweat it, just vote early.
Unless, you know, a massive hurricane is smashing your house.
I voted early. I'm in Florida, a swing state, and we are being unbelievably buried in political bullshit. I don't just talk the talk, I have signs in my yard...corner lot on a main highway thank-you-very-much. I double dog dare anyone to give me shit about it either.
Straight Democratic ticket, yes to retain all judges and no to every Constitutional Amendment. Yes to the referendum question to continue the tax to benefit schools. No to the other two.
Ballot for my address
There is a Republican power grab going on with the judges, because the Republican's would love to replace these moderate judges with their own appointees (not so moderate, of course) and this would impact Florida's future well beyond the asinine and corrupt governor and state Republican government we have now.
Principled Justices
The constitutional amendments are a bunch of badly worded, misleadingly titled, mish-mash of Republican attempts to hand out favors, insert religion into our government, bar Obamacare, and giving themselves additional power and control where it should not be. So no, across the board.
2012 Constitutional Amendments
Our governor is one of, if not THE most corrupt governor in office. He was actually involved in a huge fraud case when head of Columbia HCA. Columbia settled with the government for $1.9 billion. He instituted welfare drug testing...and it turns out, welfare recipients actually use drugs LESS than your average employed person (probably something to do with a paycheck??) and the state of Florida lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Did I mention the drug testing company was founded by Dear Gov. Scott and transferred to his wife's name just before this was implemented? Now
they made money :greenface
Florida Saved Nothing
He is attempting to implement all sorts of shady crap while he has the chance. He'll be gone (hopefully) next election!
Go vote!!!
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How long do I keep my gloat sign...I mean my Obama/Biden, in my yard?
It would be classy if you took it down today.
Yeah. The businesses across the road will certainly leave all their signs up (Romney, Mandel. My favorite is "WE BUILT THIS COMPANY. NOT OBAMA!" Which doesn't make sense...I KNOW they didn't build Obama) and I will be a good sport and take mine down.
My next door neighbors were out with a ginormous Obama sign yesterday afternoon, causing major noise pollution on the road going past my house. Last night, when Obama hit 270 electoral votes, they ran into the street screaming joyously. There were fireworks nearby too.
I'm happy too! :D
That's awesome!
It's a special victory for women's rights, imo.
Tomorrow is election day here. Twil and I just voted. I have to say that I believe our election system in Washington has many things going for it.
1 - - Vote by mail. We've had our ballots for about two weeks now. It requires considerable effort to have a legitimate case for tardiness, procrastination notwithstanding.
2 - - Postage paid return envelopes. Come on. There have always been ballot drop boxes around, now every mailbox is one, presuming you deposit it in time. You still need to have it postmarked by election day. Your petty four-bit excuse is old and busted.
3 - - OCR ballots. I know this isn't very novel, but it is very easy and durable and hack resistant. And it those attributes apply to recounts as well as audits. I've voted "electronically" before and this is waaaaay better.
4 - - This is a primary election. Our primary system decides the two candidates who will appear on the ballot in the general election in November. The top two vote getters in each race get onto the ballot in the general election. No Party <strike> bullshit
/ interference / control </strike> regulation of *your* choice for the best candidate.
I like it. We also have a very robust system of initiatives and referenda which sometimes produces results I don't agree with, but it is as small "d" democratic as it gets.
There's room for improvement too. I wish our state allocated our electoral votes in proportion to the popular vote like a couple states do now. This would dilute our blue blue bloc, but I think it would fairer.
I hope you all vote too!
Sorry, Washington won't allow me to vote. ;)
Trump signs are still up. Zero class by the glatt perspective.
If you don't vote, you can't complain.
We tried but failed miserably. Waaa!!!
LOL. If that's the level of your complaint voting won't help.
I don't vote
Maybe it's time to reevaluate why. :cool:
Just took my ballot out to the mailbox. Gotta love vote-by-mail!
Maybe it's time to reevaluate why.
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I don't vote because I believe that tribalism is by far our biggest current problem, and fighting it is more important than voting. Declaring myself outside of it by declaring myself a non-voter is a principled stand. Being on no side allows me to more fairly judge and criticize the excesses of all sides.
I don't vote because I am not 100% certain of the best policies to govern us.
I don't vote because I am not a great judge of character.
I don't vote because I am an anti-authoritarian moderate and never find anyone that represents me.
I don't vote because people generally vote by their personality type and I don't think we should be governed by anyone with my ridiculous personality type.
I don't vote because I don't care to stay fully informed about politics in a world where our sense-making establishments are broken and desperate to reach audiences that demand only the affirmation of their own point of view.
then, why should I vote?
It's a civic responsibility.
Some people want me to.
Re-evaluation completeI am an anti-authoritarian moderate
What level of fight would you be willing to put up during an oppressive authoritarian regime? I'm not being glib; I'm truly curious. I feel like digital sabotage would definitely be in your wheelhouse, but would you ever escalate to physical fighting? Would defensive violence be limited to your own home, or on behalf of others as well?
I don't vote because I believe that tribalism is by far our biggest current problem, and fighting it is more important than voting. Declaring myself outside of it by declaring myself a non-voter is a principled stand.
No saying you don't vote will make people peg you as a slacker and dismiss your arguments.
Being on no side allows me to more fairly judge and criticize the excesses of all sides.
No, you can still vote for the lesser of two evils and be free to criticize all of them.
I think you left out the unwillingness to interact with people in person if avoidable, so not voting accomplishes one instance of that. :eyebrow:
No fighting, I am a certified wimp with bad shoulder and hip joints, raised by a pacifist hippie artist.
If 51% want to consolidate government power to enforce their tyranny against the majority - that's one thing. That can be fought. I find it more likely that we all suddenly find ourselves in agreement, and have a government that has very high approval ratings, under a scenario where a minority find themselves unwilling to object and the government becomes authoritarian because it can. That's more likely, and would be nearly impossible for an individual to fight at all.
The only defense is regular, truthful speech and that is why freedom of speech and tolerance of all points of view are essential IMO
Right, the preppers in Idaho are no more an influence than the anti-zombie warriors.
More likely the large majority will get sick of the rancor and agree to anything to stop it... without reading the fine print.
Not voting - no problem. More power to the more capable. You're in good hands … leave the driving to us.
I do, you get to divide up my vote with everyone who votes, for the amount of power in a single vote.
So you get 1/130000000th of a vote more power. That's 0.0000000077 votes more power you get.
Use it wisely, or don't use it at all. Nobody will notice either way.
It's all rich irony as for years and years and years, people told me I was "throwing my vote away" by voting the way I did. So yeah, you throw it away for me. Do me a service.
You underestimate the propaganda value.
Fact: If you had voted in the last Presidential election, you would have voted for Trump.
There's nothing you can say or do to disprove that statement; because, you didn't vote. Let's give it some oomph;
Fact: Undertoad, who is seeking the truth, would have voted for Trump in the last election had he voted since Trump was truly the best choice.
Leave the driving to us.
Yes and if you were looking to rape a young child, you would have chosen a male.
There's nothing you can say or do to disprove that statement; because, you didn't rape a child.
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You equate voting for Trump to raping a child? Is that how you feel, like those who voted for Trump raped you.
If you vote in the next Presidential election, you will vote for Trump.
(Stockholm syndrome)
All like you are just waiting to come out of the woodwork to get true blue Trump reelected.
Yes and if you rape a young child next year, you will rape a boy.
dude don't just reframe the analogy again once it is shown to be broken
Why not⸮
If Trump runs for reelection, you wouldn't vote for anyone else. That means something to people. OTOH, your retort is meaningless as it's not reality based.
You're an enabler; but, more importantly, you provide a rationale for others to become abstaining enablers so that power shifts by changing the level of entitlement by numbers.
Thank you for your un-contribution. Good day.
you provide a rationale for others to become abstaining enablers so that power shifts by changing the level of entitlement by numbers
So, the real danger is other people start to not vote because I have convinced them?
Jesus, I didn't know I had such power! Can I convince them to suck my dick instead? It takes less time and at least then I would get something for my amaaaaazing influence, which I was previously unaware of!
I would even put up a booth and a curtain if people want to suck me off. Can we make it happen the first Tuesday of November?
Our government officials are elected by the average American.
You know, someone who has a high-school education and $30,000 in earnings, of which 30% goes to taxes and 30% to housing and health-care costs, and are told repeatedly that people like them, the majority of the population, have no future in a knowledge economy.
...you gotta lotta nerve, man.
You give me grief about my anarchic ways, but you can't even be bothered to participate in the operation of the 'representative government' you put so much stock in.
Understand: I don't care if you vote or not (voting is mostly Hobson's Choice). By my standards: you're fine.
By your own... :neutral:
Lots of ways to participate man. This is one of them!
Leave the vote to others who are more informed. That's a sensible civic approach, really --
I tellya what, I would vote on local. School board and township, that I'd vote on. Because you could probably even meet the people running, and the issues would be things you were aware of, and that actually mattered. And the vote would be meaningful, it would be less than a 0.000000077th impact.
But I'm not informed about any of that, and I'm a renter. Shrug
Okay, but in the same way that we have a representative democracy because we can't all be informed on all the issues all the time, couldn't you theoretically have a representative voting advisor? Like one person or organization or whatever that you decide you trust, and just do whatever that person/organization tells you to do? Or would you say you inherently can't trust anyone who would pick from either of the two major parties?
I did give a vote as a christmas present once.
It's easy to get proxy votes. Simply by standing outside the polling place, and politely asking everyone who enters to vote for your candidate, you can get a ton of votes. You can sway a precinct.
Just think of all the people who have been told it's their civic duty to vote, and do it, but who have no idea who the candidates are.
So you are participating in representative democracy just not voting.
… But I'm not informed about any of that, and I'm a renter. Shrug
You're just a renter of life. Perhaps you don't have much to say that's worth listening to about anything.
It's down to the tribalism, people. It's killing us.
A third us believe there will be civil war.
I simply refuse to be a part of that.
You're just a renter of life. Perhaps you don't have much to say that's worth listening to about anything.
A) We're all renters of life! That's the gig.
B) Saying this to me in the thread 12 hours after having told me to STFU tells us you are listening hard!
It's down to the tribalism, people. It's killing us.
A third us believe there will be civil war.
I simply refuse to be a part of that.
Are we more tribal than we used to be, though? Or just more aware of the other tribes' doings, thanks to connectivity?
My theory is that politics is replacing religion as a source of spiritual guidance and a place people are looking for meaning. My theory is that this is really dangerous.
Because overlaid on that is humanity's tribal nature; which tells us, subconsciously, that there must be an enemy to be fought, and finding and outing/fighting that enemy is part of what we will do to survive in the long run.
We see that, in human behavior, there are always enemies and our instinct is to destroy them. It is our destiny. And this has created all the greatest inhumanities of history.
Now, without an obvious enemy, and without a spiritual calming force to guide the behavior that allows us to find agreement, behave, and get along, we are turning on ourselves.
Today everyone believes that the "other side" is reprehensible. Both sides have different sets of facts. Both sides unfairly malign the other. It has started to come to violence. We are looking to ban speech and silently cheering when people get assaulted.
OMG, HARD LIBERALS are DEMANDING BIG CORPORATIONS ACT AS CENSORS! What the hell is happening??? Where ARE we???
Politics has gotten people angry over NFL football. NFL football!! What the HELL. This is the sport where we create fake tribes and go to fake war. It's supposed to be a relief valve, people! How can NFL fuckin' football be making things worse?
It's a shit time we're in. Well, I'm not taking sides. I believe we're all on the same side. To demonstrate that fully, I must say, in the strongest terms, that I'm not a part of this. I am trying to demonstrate a way to be.
"Lots of ways to participate man."
In the representative government you promote, only one really counts and you choose to abstain.
If voting is the process through which a citizen 'chooses' (how tax revenue is spent, who will represent him in-town, in-state, in-nation) then you're fallin' down on the job in a LARGE way, toad.
So: shit or get offa the pot...vote and be entitled to to lecture ill-fitting pieces such as myself, or, be a hypocrite and *ahem* shut the fuck up.
Me: I'd like it if you joined me on the Dark Side...we can always use another twisted soul in the Pit, but, if you're gonna walk with the angels, you gotta play the harp.
Simply: I demand at least a little consistency in the opposition. If you can't give me that, then what the hell are you good for?
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"civil war."
'bout damn time for one.
Travel through the back country. Listen to what is heard on so many radio stations. A diatribe of hate is now routine. Alex Jones screams hate since (just like Sen Joe McCarthy), it makes him rich and powerful.
Hate promoted on radio (emotions that target adults who are children) is rampant in rural communities. As many or more stations play that hate more than others that play rock and roll. Hate (emotion) targets adults who are still children Logical thought (ie honest news hyped to the emotional as fake news) is little heard on those talk radio stations.
Nothing new. Over 60% of Americans also knew smoking cigarettes increased health. Because emotional propaganda proved it to be true. Logic (intelligent thought) becomes irrelevant when sound byte emotions are promoted more often.
Why did Saddam have WMDs? Same emotional diatribes proved it. Because it was promoted emotionally - not justified by facts. The emotion called hate is easily and now widely promoted in rural communities.
... if you're gonna walk with the angels, you gotta play the harp.
It explains why John Lennon screamed, "I got callouses on my fingers" when still alive.
"I believe we're all on the same side."
We're not, we never have been.
Roughly, there are two sides...
WE vs I
MANY vs ONE
Not possible to be on both sides of the field.
Abstaining from the conflict doesn't insulate or absolve you.
My theory is that politics is replacing religion as a source of spiritual guidance and a place people are looking for meaning. My theory is that this is really dangerous.
I think you would really like a book called
Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari. (Not because it would change your mind, because it's about all this same stuff you're talking about.)
WE vs I
MANY vs ONE
Not possible to be on both sides of the field.
Why did you write your post in English?
Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari
The Amazon summary sounds awesome, I will consider it, thanks!
It explains why John Lennon screamed, "I got callouses on my fingers" when still alive.
blisters on
me fingers
blisters on me fingers
Thank you
cuz I'm tryin' to convince a hypocrite to not be a hypocrite (coulda been french, spanish, esperanto, or the idiosyncratic marks I use when I write for myself...I used english cuz I'm communicatin' with you, which, I see is a waste of my time).
As you were.
blisters on me fingers
Yelled RINGO STARR
I'm communicatin' with you, which, I see is a waste of my time).
The hell? I asked you one question, is that the limit of your tolerance for discussion?
Yelled RINGO STARR
He did not play guitar. He had an easy life. He only beat drums. He did not even have to play both a left and right handed guitar. And he had rings that prevented calluses.
But then all those Brits sound alike. Could be.
… Saying this to me in the thread 12 hours after having told me to STFU tells us you are listening hard!
I said GOOD DAY. That was yesterday. New day, new beginning for me. Now towards the end of the day I see it's still the same old, same old from you. The truths you recognize are the ones that get you out of responsibility. That's why you've gone as far as you can go, both personally and professionally. No soup for you. Come back one year. We'll see if my hypothesis is correct.
Meanwhile, do continue to try to impress yourself.
Oh my goodness with the personal! Well, I've taken you officially OFF the guest list for my dick-sucking booth then. I hope you can live with that.
The Cellar: And the bleat goes on...and the bleat goes on...
"He did not play guitar. He had an easy life. He only beat drums. He did not even have to play both a left and right handed guitar. And he had rings that prevented calluses."
Now look at them yo-yo's that's the way you do it
You play the guitar on the MTV
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Money for nothin' and chicks for free
Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys ain't dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb
We got to install microwave ovens custom kitchen deliveries
We got to move these refrigerators we gotta move these color TV's
See the little faggot with the earring and the make up
Yeah buddy that's his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot he's a millionaire
We got to install microwave ovens custom kitchen deliveries
We got to move these refrigerators we gotta move these color TV's
I shoulda learned to play the guitar
I shoulda learned to play them drums
Look at that mama she got it stickin' in the camera man
We could have some fun
And he's up there, what's that?
Hawaiian noises?
Bangin' on the bongos like a chimpanzee
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Get your money for nothin' get your chicks for free
We got to install microwave ovens custom kitchen deliveries
We got to move these refrigerators we gotta move these color TV's
Listen here
Now that ain't workin' that's the way to do it
Play the guitar on the MTV
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Money for nothin' and chicks for free
Money for nothin' chicks for free
Money for nothin' chicks for free
Money for nothin' chicks for free
Money for nothin' chicks for free
Money for nothin' chicks for free
Money for nothin' chicks for free
Easy, easy money for nothin' chicks for free) (I want my, I want my MTV)
(Money for nothin' chicks for free)
Do I strike you as particularly tolerant, of anyone, or anything, at any time?
Here's the thing, toad: all this...
I don't vote because I believe that tribalism is by far our biggest current problem, and fighting it is more important than voting. Declaring myself outside of it by declaring myself a non-voter is a principled stand. Being on no side allows me to more fairly judge and criticize the excesses of all sides.
I don't vote because I am not 100% certain of the best policies to govern us.
I don't vote because I am not a great judge of character.
I don't vote because I am an anti-authoritarian moderate and never find anyone that represents me.
I don't vote because people generally vote by their personality type and I don't think we should be governed by anyone with my ridiculous personality type.
I don't vote because I don't care to stay fully informed about politics in a world where our sense-making establishments are broken and desperate to reach audiences that demand only the affirmation of their own point of view.
...is poop.
Again: you can't make a show of the glories of democracy and respresentative government and then opt out.
Well, yeah, you can but that just makes you a hypocrite (not principled or thoughtful or insightful or an example to be followed).
As you like.
Both you two are alternating between unable to speak to me at all, and screaming at me full volume. Let's have you two battle over the question of how shitty I am and why. I think that will be entertaining. I'll just sit and watch, now.
He suffers from hypengyophobia and one of the symptoms is diarrhea of the mouth (he's got more excuses than Carter has liver pills). It's usually just monotonous; unless, he gets talkative while stoned. Then it can be entertaining.
And his mama wears combat boots. :lol2:
No.
He's just a *chickenshit, and that's a matter of character, not a disorder.
*an assessment issued without **rancor
**cuz I can be pretty friggin' ***rancorous without even thinkin' about it
***which is a matter of 'my' character
I recognize that he has had some chickenshit ideas. I also recognize that good people can have bad ideas. I tend to separate the person from the idea and look at their ideas across a wide range of subjects. I don't paint them with a broad brush until they're consistently bad across the board.
In the political arena, I don't dispute your characterization and I'll consider all proposed etiologies.
We should be charging UT for this; but, he's providing the venue so I figure it's a wash.
The best thing about the secret ballot is if you fuck up and vote for the wrong guy nobody knows.
Still, this is a very serious matter and should be considered with great … Oh look! :eyeball::eyeball: [post=1013156]BEAR CAM[/post]!
You should vote if you axe me...
You should vote if you axe me...
The trees never see the wood handle.
Machines cut the woods and are indifferent to the scurrying animals running from their homes.
Friday my son was talking about a 6' rattle snake they killed. Poor thing, every creature has a place in life. The snake had his territory and came out his hole in the ground to defend it. The rodents he consumed either went for the woods or got squashed under the tires of the great machines.
My son is a log truck driver making 1500 a week take home. I once drove log truck until I went back to work for Walmart thank God. I saw that German machine grab the tree and saw at the bottom. Here it grabs the tree and a big snippet cuts the tree like scissors leaving no stump.
I have thought of making a thread about the devastation left behind when the loggers leave. Yep I will get some pics together it will take awhile as I am getting my motorcycle together for a trip to Laurel Springs, NC. If anyone is up that way it would be swell to meet you.
It seems that I'm rambling, but my kitten is lost and I'm sitting here talking to you guys crying.
Anyone wants to skim over this its ok cuz I am not even talking about your vote, because I skimmed over most of it until I saw a mention of trees. I don't have that many trees in this small yard, but plenty of hiding spots as I look this morning.
I truly appreciate all on this forum as I can blabber on with no reprimand. Not so on the motorcycle forums unless I am talking about the specs on an engine. Tires and oil are big subjects. They always working on these Harley's. I have spent more money on mine than all the metrics I ever rode. I never went into the engine on those. When young I wasn't particular about checking oil or tires they never left me on the side of the road. Who the hell wants a Harley? I think I will go find a Goldwing or a 1700 Yami. I saw a picture one of you guys rides a crotch rocket. I kept it in my other phone that I lost while riding. Do you have another pic?
Well I hope I haven't bothered y'all too much and will leave you back to whatever you talking about. Thanks for listening I feel so much better.
No problem, babbling is therapeutic. You'll find the kitten.
...It seems that I'm rambling, but my kitten is lost and I'm sitting here talking to you guys crying...
Anyone wants to skim over this its ok cuz I am not even talking about your vote, because I skimmed over most of it until I saw a mention of trees. I don't have that many trees in this small yard, but plenty of hiding spots as I look this morning.
Well I hope I haven't bothered y'all too much and will leave you back to whatever you talking about. Thanks for listening I feel so much better.
Awww... I'm so sorry about your kitten. How old is it? Cats do like to explore their environment and sometimes get lost, but most often they make it home and then you are so relieved that you want to kill them! ;)
Sending you good thoughts and everyone - remember to vote for your favorite feline!
No problem, babbling is therapeutic. You'll find the kitten.
I found the kitten see the cat thread.
I found the kitten see the cat thread.
The cat thread? Where's that? :confused:
Here.
Oh, THAT cat thread! I was confusing it with the one in the "What's for dinner?" thread. :blush:
Sent this to a woman, in response she asked me if that was who was running for president in 2020. She votes every time.
How are things in [post=1013623]The Twilight Zone[/post]?
To make a change, you have to vote.
To vote, you have to register.
This is excellent advice for getting ready in time.
From here
Go to Vote.org, or, if you are reading this in the dead-tree edition, type vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote into your browser, spend 30 seconds entering your name, address and date of birth, and you’ll find out instantly if your voter registration is current. If not, follow the instructions to register.
Next, click this link or type vote.org/absentee-ballot into your browser, and sign yourself up to receive an absentee ballot for the November election. That takes about two minutes.
I could very well end up voting for Joe Biden this year. I've read that Ivanka might not want to be part of a second term Trump administration; rather, preferring to spend more time with her immediate family. That could seriously compromise the dirty old man vote.
If Biden would announce plans to put someone like, say, Tushi Gabbard in a high profile position in his administration, the dirty old man vote might be swayed his way and put him over the top. Biden would have to have the foresight to recognize the opportunity though.
As good as Tulsi looks on a surfboard, the DNC has no love for her. Having her the the cabinet would send a signal about finding a balance between the over-commitment of the Bush Obama years and the reckless disloyalty of the current administration.
I voted tonight. It was done on a mail in ballot.
NO FRAUD!
Not only has Trump sought to spread FUD about our upcoming election and the inevitable increase in voting by mail using his tweets, he has also [strike]grafted[/strike] [strike]gifted[/strike] [strike]rewarded[/strike] captured the Postal Service by installing one of his mega donors as the Postmaster General (such a swamp move, the PMG's wife was named the Ambassador to Canada--poor Canada).
This new PMG has declared that in order to be more like a business and less like a government service, *no overtime will be paid*. When the whistle blows, drop the mail where you stand. It'll be there tomorrow.
What's this got to do with voting?
Thirty-five states now either allow no-excuse absentee voting or vote entirely by mail, and during this pandemic, more people than ever will choose to avoid polling places and cast their ballot that way. That already means that the Postal Service will have to handle more absentee requests and ballots than ever before — and Trump’s postmaster general has forbidden its workers from working overtime.
Now here’s the kicker. In 34 states, under current law it’s not enough that your absentee ballot be postmarked by election day. It has to be received by election authorities by election day.
As I pointed out earlier in this thread, it's possible to verify your options for voting by mail *NOW* and the sooner the better. Vote. Please vote. To make it count, you have to follow some rules and the sooner the better.
I already Voted, in the Aug 11 primary. And I have mail in ballots coming for all of the upcoming elections. We can do that in Wisconsin.
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Speaking of elections, Pete's signs were stolen off our property today.
Property Rights are a fundamental belief of the ___________ Party.
Ok, that's out of the way for the next thirty seconds....
I'm getting ready to watch the VP debate. New thing this year, well, not a new thing, but people are NAMING it, "managing expectations", whooooo that's fun.
my anti-expectation-managing, or managing expectations against my own self interest , whatev, I'm new at this don't hate at me. I think Kamala Harris will crush that talking point machine.
WHO'S WITH ME NOW?
Go Kamala!
wow.
I got the phrase "talking points machine" from "teh media" but I have to say, ON POINT, media, well done.
jfc.
He's sideslipped answering the actual question, run out the clock not answering, dodging and weaving like a mofo... props. props, yo.
your answers say a lot, despite addressing questions not asked by the moderator.
side note, stop talking over Senator Harris. It really is rude and makes you look like a prick.
holy shit
he just said "let the record show she did not answer the question"
Ok
that's the match that lit the fuse on your own petard, boomer.
proc-to-co-lo-gists????
w
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too bad the moderator doesn't have that mythical mute button....
did you see that fly land on his head?
-1 for radio,
BUT!
they talked about it at the top of the hour, I heard twitter lost its mind.
[still.... lol]
did you see that fly land on his head?
So Pence was anointed - by fly shit. Appropriate?
Or was that a fly trying to tell him his time was up. He listens to no one - except Trump. Or does he?
He wasn't in the room when Trump was
spreading his viral wisdom upon all others.
Those look like detergent boxes. So we can wash our hands of the whole thing?
Also Peanut Butter, toothpaste, furniture, etc.
NO!
Harsh bro.
How about now?
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"cum-demned" ballot! (had to re re re re wind it to get that)
bwaaaahahhaahhhahahahahhahaha!
Honestly, I appreciate those guys rigid opposition to human based (but still vegan!) envelope sealing substances, they really, really drove that point home. But voting isn't (or shouldn't be) *that* hard.
VOTE!
(if. you. want. to. jfc.)
But please vote.
Just completed the mail in ballot....and have the sticker on my shirt....
Now that it turns out you are a human being, thanks for voting!
Just completed the mail in ballot....and have the sticker on my shirt....
You keep a roll of "I voted!" stickers?
Do they send 'em with the ballot?
This sticker...Does it say "I voted!", or does it say "Chiquita"?
It comes with the ballot.
I've voted by mail for several years now and I can't recall ever seeing an "I Voted" sticker included with the ballot materials
Elections are run locally, so it's up to the state. I've only voted by mail this year, and I got a sticker for the primary and the general.
Just completed the mail in ballot....and have the sticker on my shirt....
Can one get a tattoo for that?
So, in Texas, Governor Abbot recently declared that during this period of early voting, the number of drop boxes for ballots only (not mailboxes, secure containers for ballots only) would be limited to one per county. This represented a major reduction in ballot drop boxes for some counties, especially with dense population centers. The news this morning is that a judge has ruled that this order from the Governor “likely violates their fundamental right to vote,” and has suspended the Governor's order.
The state immediately filed an appeal of the injunction, meaning a federal appeals court will now take up the issue.
Because nothing says
'merican more than "See you in court."
linkGot my ballot Friday but didn't notice any sticker.
Got ours last night, no sticker. Some places are sending them out though.
We got our ballots 2 weeks ago filled them out the next day and dropped them in the drop box at city hall.
So, in Texas, Governor Abbot recently declared that during this period of early voting, the number of drop boxes for ballots only (not mailboxes, secure containers for ballots only) would be limited to one per county. This represented a major reduction in ballot drop boxes for some counties, especially with dense population centers. The news this morning is that a judge has ruled that this order from the Governor “likely violates their fundamental right to vote,” and has suspended the Governor's order.
Because nothing says 'merican more than "See you in court."
link
So the state of
Texas' appeal was successful. A three judge panel granted a stay of the lower court's order to stop restricting the number of ballot boxes to one per county. Republican Governor restricts access to voting; one judge, nominated by Obama issues an injunction overturning that order; a three judge panel, all nominated by Trump, issues a stay against the injunction, allowing the ballot box restrictions to remain in place.
This is likely a view into the future of how much and how long the impact of Trump's actions will be felt.
It seems obvious that in this case the Republicans want to suppress the vote and the Democrats want to expand the vote. This is one reason I am a proud Democrat.
I'm not always pro-Democrat but I am actively anti-Trump and anti the party of Trump. My ballot is filled out and will go in the mail tomorrow.
I'm pro-good ideas and good policies.
I see more good ideas and good policies from people who have the "D" associated with their name than what I'm hearing from "the Republicans". Again, let's focus on the ideas and the effects, less on the party attribution. I only pointed it out in the recent news up-thread since it seemed... it seemed partisan, irrespective of the logical and moral "justification" for the original move: "to prevent fraud". For Fuck's Sake.
It comes with the ballot.
I realize now, that my post about the sticker sounded a little like I was jumping on the Jam-bashing bandwagon, but really, I was just setting up the "Chiquita" comment.
I like the purple finger better than the sticker anyway.
I'm pro-good ideas and good policies.
I see more good ideas and good policies from people who have the "D" associated with their name than what I'm hearing from "the Republicans". . . . For Fuck's Sake.
Really? Could you explain what these
good ideas are? I can't see a one, and see the Socialist Democrats as poison. They haven't any concern with rights and liberties... Trump is concerned with absolutely nothing other, except for the economic growth thing -- implemented by liberties, I don't hesitate to point out; there are several here who just can't scrape that idea together. Other people's fat wallets, let alone your own, say this benefit, from this approach, is no fantasy.
Tangentially, I'd add that Critical Theory is socially a very bad habit.
The fella who thinks quote marks are for "emphasis" -- is "clever." The quotes around the D are legit; they are glaringly unnecessary around
the Republicans. Punctuation: it can save lives.
I realize now, that my post about the sticker sounded a little like I was jumping on the Jam-bashing bandwagon, but really, I was just setting up the "Chiquita" comment.
Let's see... Banana Democratic Republic? Starchy place.
I'll stick one in myself, then, too. Sundown Monday evening, the wife and I slipped our ballots into the
very sturdy welded-quarter-inch steel and bolted to the pavement official ballot box at the county government center. You couldn't budge one of these things with a bullet. The building has two outdoor ballot boxes, within a stone's throw of each other, and of course there's the basement Office of the Registrar, which during business hours you could hand your ballot envelope in over the counter. No crowds elbowing each other.
In my years here, Ventura County has gone from IBMish punch cards and card punchers to Scantron-type optical scanners and tabulators with bins for the hard copies. With the federal mandate for scanners, and the punchcard things mechanically wearing, we voters got nifty stickers saying "I Voted" from the polls.
The nifty sticker tradition continues with the universal vote-by-mail in California this year -- a dark blue elliptical stickum reading "I Voted By Mail/Voté Por Correo." I had a moment's trouble with it until I figured out that only the blue part, and not what resembled a tan ellipse around the blue part, was the sticker; the tan ellipse was the backing beneath it. Now two Voted stickers adorn my black ballcap, from this election and the last.