McCain's Last Ditch Effort

McCain's campaign is getting desperate. They faked an attack on a girl where she got a B scraped into her face and a black eye. They know they are on a sinking ship. They'll do just about anything now.

Is this August? I think we've reentered silly season.

Radar;498052 wrote:

McCain's campaign is getting desperate. They faked an attack on a girl where she got a B scraped into her face and a black eye. They know they are on a sinking ship. They'll do just about anything now.

Yeah and Obama has been going out at night and personally painting over the McCain yard signs in my town :headshake

Obviously the picture is a lame joke, but I have to ask - is the rest of your post meant to be humorous Radar? You really believe the McCain campaign strategy including notching 'b's' into stupid white girls and claiming it was an Obama move?

The girl was a McCain campaign worker, and the head of the local McCain campaign was the one who called it in to the cops.

She was so dumb, she made the B backwards, which the police immediately suspected was made by herself while looking into a mirror.

She has admitted the McCain campaign was involved.

News link.

She's admitted the whole story was a hoax and that she's had previous mental problems. No mention of whether anyone else in the McCain campaign besides her was "involved" or otherwise implicated.

How about this great "joke":

http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html

Wonder what they would have done if they used an Obama look alike and put it in a tree, anyone?

Pete threw out an Obama/terrorist flyer last week. Lots of hilarious stuff out there.

TheMercenary;498163 wrote:

How about this great "joke":

http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html

Wonder what they would have done if they used an Obama look alike and put it in a tree, anyone?

a) who is they? This isn't the campaign this is something a supporter has done for halloween

b) as far as I am aware the cultural significance of putting a black man's effigy in a tree would be somewhat greater than hanging the effigy of a woman. Unless America has some hidden history of hanging women in large numbers?

DanaC;498229 wrote:

Unless America has some hidden history of hanging women in large numbers?

Not yet. Apologist.

I find the two white supremacist lads who plotted to kill 88 black students and then end with Obama, or die trying, a hell of a lot more troubling.

I said over a year ago that I believe Obama will be assassinated. He hasn't even been elected yet and so far two plots have been foiled.

How long do you really think it's going to be before someone gets close enough to get a shot off?

When she did, police say she admitted that she made the whole thing up and that it snowballed out of control.

She did - there was no grand conspiracy - It was a mentally ill girl all by herself starving for attention. Shall we string her up now or wait until after the trial?

DanaC;498253 wrote:

I find the two white supremacist lads who plotted to kill 88 black students and then end with Obama, or die trying, a hell of a lot more troubling.

That doesn't bother me that much. The cops were obviously on to them and given the amount of protection that our President receives I doubt they would have gotten even close.

On the otherhand hanging an effigy from a house or a tree is a legal hate crime that incites other to do stupid things, like burn down someones house or perform a violent act on an unsuspecting person. It is more about the double standard I see here and else where, like it is only some kind of prank for the holiday. Well that is until they hang an Obama one from the tree. Then people will be all outraged. I would not support that act and I do not support the one of Palin.

yeh - once the immature oneupsmanship starts.... Stupid people are everywhere. EVERYWHERE I tell ya!

I agree, hanging a mannequin dressed as Sarah Palin is uncool... very uncool.:(

hanging a mannequin - any mannequin is very uncool. man or beast.

classicman;498267 wrote:

She did - there was no grand conspiracy - It was a mentally ill girl all by herself starving for attention. Shall we string her up now or wait until after the trial?

http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/move_over_willie_horton_20081027/

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_gave_reporters_inc.php

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27367382#27367382

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/ashley-todd-story-pushed_n_137710.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/506

Right wing Israeli extremists never called for it. They all but called for the assassination of Rabin - to destroy the Oslo Accords and peace process. They got what they wanted.

Right wing extremists are doing same in America. Implied calls for the murder of Obama are being heard. Rush Limbaugh, et al does not call for it. But a message of hate is heard. Same message that McCain has been forced to confront in his own campaign stops.

Two Arrested in Alleged Barack Obama Murder Plot
Two alleged White Power believers are facing federal charges in connection with what authorities say was a plot to kill Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.
Twenty-year-old David Cowart of Bells, Tennessee, and 18-year-old Paul Schlesselman of West Helena, Arkansas, have been accused of making threats against a major presidential candidate and various weapons violations.

Federal agents believe this is a second plot recently uncovered.

classicman;498301 wrote:

hanging a mannequin - any mannequin is very uncool. man or beast.

I wonder how donkeys feel about pinatas.

At some time in the past, I have held that burning an effigy of a famous person is a legitimate (albeit extreme) expression of political opinion. Kind of like burning a flag, a last resort way to express the most extreme anger at something. It can be legitimate, but only if it is justified by the most serious grievances. Say, as part of the overthrowing of a tyranny.

Hanging an effigy seems pretty similar, but the idea of people hanging effigies of Palin and/or Obama seems wrong to me. Partly it's the lynching thing but also I don't feel any candidate or running mate is bad enough to warrant the kind of extreme emotion that is conveyed by the gesture.

I wouldn't even hang in effigy either of the Clintons or either of the Bushes. I might splash holy water on an effigy of Rumsfield, though.



P.S. Girl with the "B" .... back to front ... :smack: :lol: duhhhhh

ZenGum;498319 wrote:

... I might splash holy water on an effigy of Rumsfield, though.

... like one would with a vampire? :rolleyes:

classicman;498301 wrote:

hanging a mannequin - any mannequin is very uncool. man or beast.

Even Keith Olbermann lashed out at this guy on his show last night.

TheMercenary;498278 wrote:

That doesn't bother me that much. The cops were obviously on to them and given the amount of protection that our President receives I doubt they would have gotten even close.

On the otherhand hanging an effigy from a house or a tree is a legal hate crime that incites other to do stupid things, like burn down someones house or perform a violent act on an unsuspecting person. It is more about the double standard I see here and else where, like it is only some kind of prank for the holiday. Well that is until they hang an Obama one from the tree. Then people will be all outraged. I would not support that act and I do not support the one of Palin.

Ithink I probably have a slightly different oreintation to effigies than you do. They traditionally play quite a large role in protest here, and our most treasured national tradition involves burning one. When my eldest niece finished primary school, she and her friends and my bro's family had a big celebratory bonfire in their back garden, at which the kids burned an effigy of their most hated teacher, stuffed full with old school notes.

Around Guy Fawkes Night, kids take 'Guys' that they've made, around in a wheelbarrow and ask people for "a penny for the Guy" to gather money for fireworks and sweets. Though it's traditionally meant to be Guy Fawkes, there is also a sub tradition of making the Guy look like an unpopular figure of the day.

I still think there is a vast difference between hanging up a Halloween dummy to look like a politician of the day, and hanging up an effigy of the first black cntender for president. Your country has a recent history of lynching black people: the Palin effigy cannot hold the same cultural resonance (and therefore importance) as hanging the effigy of a black man.


[eta] not that I approve of the Palin dummy. I think it's in poor taste.

Burning an effigy, in an active protest, carries a different connotation than leaving an effigy, hung by anonymous person(s).

David Beckham was hanged in effigy in this country, after he was blamed for England going out of the World Cup in 1998.

I agree with Dana, I would see it differently if it was Obama, for the reasons she has stated. I don't think it's tasteful that it's Palin, I'm just not that into hate, but it doesn't have the same resonance.

Then again I've seen Thatcher masks on guys and not protested. So maybe I am seething underneath.

I see your point SG, but I still think it is a horrible thing to do to anyone - whatever their race, religion, sex....

DanaC;498358 wrote:

Ithink I probably have a slightly different oreintation to effigies than you do. They traditionally play quite a large role in protest here, and our most treasured national tradition involves burning one. When my eldest niece finished primary school, she and her friends and my bro's family had a big celebratory bonfire in their back garden, at which the kids burned an effigy of their most hated teacher, stuffed full with old school notes.

Around Guy Fawkes Night, kids take 'Guys' that they've made, around in a wheelbarrow and ask people for "a penny for the Guy" to gather money for fireworks and sweets. Though it's traditionally meant to be Guy Fawkes, there is also a sub tradition of making the Guy look like an unpopular figure of the day.

I completely respect that and think the whole Guy Fawkes thing is pretty cool. We left the UK a week before the celebration the last time we were there and were disapointed that we could not stay on.

I still think there is a vast difference between hanging up a Halloween dummy to look like a politician of the day, and hanging up an effigy of the first black cntender for president. Your country has a recent history of lynching black people: the Palin effigy cannot hold the same cultural resonance (and therefore importance) as hanging the effigy of a black man.

Completely true. The point is that there is becoming this blatant duplicity and double standard surrounding protest, visual, or virtual (internet) that is accepted by one group, but if displayed by another the race card is played. That is a problem and will remain a problem for many. I completely and whole heartedly support equality among races and ethnic groups, regardless of who you are and were you came from. I do not support reversal of roles, duplicity, double standards, or assumption of roles of submissiveness in exchange for roles of dominance because of some historical wrong from generations past. I carry no guilt because of some BS that happened over 100 years ago. Never will. As a person of Scottish/Irish decent I could conjure up many historical wrong doings and oppressive acts. That is not something to carry from generation to generation, nor is it something to ingrain into the consciousness of my children or children's children only to keep open old wounds and festering hate. Equality? I am all for it. Something else? No. I have no problem what so ever with a black or half white president.

Over a hundred years ago, Merc? When do you think the last racially motivated lynching was? It isn't even a century since blacks were not considerd full citizens.


[eta] I am not suggesting btw that you are racist. I think your desire for a wiping clean of the account (generationally speaking) and a shared abhorrence of all discrimination in this regard, is laudable; however, you cannot just snap your fingers and say the past holds no currency in our cultural understanding of the world. The oppression of non-whites in America is not ancient history. It is far too recent to expect it not to still hold resonance for people.

Aliantha;498262 wrote:

I said over a year ago that I believe Obama will be assassinated. He hasn't even been elected yet and so far two plots have been foiled.

How long do you really think it's going to be before someone gets close enough to get a shot off?

This is exactly my fear. Its the reason why effigies of prominent political figures being hung, etc. are so troubling here in the States. We have a very nasty history of presidents and other prominent people being assasinated. We have no Guy Fawkes celebration, but we do have Martin Luther King Day and the Lincoln Memorial. Go figure.

DanaC;498417 wrote:

Over a hundred years ago, Merc? When do you think the last racially motivated lynching was? It isn't even a century since blacks were not considerd full citizens.


[eta] I am not suggesting btw that you are racist. I think your desire for a wiping clean of the account (generationally speaking) and a shared abhorrence of all discrimination in this regard, is laudable; however, you cannot just snap your fingers and say the past holds no currency in our cultural understanding of the world. The oppression of non-whites in America is not ancient history. It is far too recent to expect it not to still hold resonance for people.

I understand your point. The hundred year comment was about slavery in the US as santioned. I am old enough to remember the race riots of the 60's. I understand the historical significance of it all. I do not, however, believe that I or my family should somehow carry around some bag of guilt for past deeds done by others. We also have a movement to revise history, not the history that has not been told, i.e. history books that omitted bad deeds, those should be revised and the record should be set straigt. But the removal of large conferate statues and memorials to the dead. Now I am not a Southerner by upbringing, but it still bothers me that somehow it is ok to erase evidence of Southern History. I am not talking about the Confederate flag as a component of Southern states flags, because many of those changes ocurred during the 50's at a time of segregation. But to revise history to remove factual historical elements that you disapprove of only to replace them with elements intended to invoke guilt is just wrong. Let us add those elements to balance the picture, not remove one to eliminate the other.

Yep. (sam and ali) He is prime pickings to incite riots......If you want a race war, that would be how to start one. This is all very unfortunate.

This problem isn't just American though. We know that. There are lots of threats on people every day in other countries. Hell that's how people used to establish leadership alot. I mean, even ceasar was stabbed right in front of everybody....If I really think about it, less leaders might have been killed in the United States than everywhere else in the world. Hmm...maybe. That's something to think about until I get facts straight. I mean aren't there more assassination attempts globally than that of the US?

And unfortunately there are enough assholes around who want exactly that - to incite riots and further the divide between Americans. All because of their small mindedness and bigotry. Grrrrrrr

Cicero;498431 wrote:

If I really think about it, less leaders might have been killed in the United States than everywhere else in the world. Hmm...maybe. That's something to think about until I get facts straight. I mean aren't there more assassination attempts globally than that of the US?

Most certainly there are an equal number of important people, but as heads of state in the US we have had only 4 assassinated with 17 attempts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts

Important people world wide assassinated:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-assassinated-people

Heads of state assassinated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Assassinated_heads_of_state

Oh then we would have to run a time line and per capita stats. I obviously got that from the corruption in the Phillippines, and looking at the stats there, only solidifies that theory. Living in only one foreign country and regular visits to others is no way to conduct a world-view learning experience. lol! I visited China, Korea, and Japan. lol!!!

I mean, wasn't your dad threatened in this manner outside of the US? No? My perception is often dead wrong. I'll admit it.

On a happier note, it appears as if there is a reason why I am so jaded, and it isn't just because I am lame. Cool. :)

Thanks for digging that stuff up Merc!

No you're right, Cic, it isn't just America. To be honest, I very much doubt that a black candidate could make it to the top job in British politics. And I don't think any of our mainstream parties would risk fielding a black prime ministerial candidate.

DanaC;498465 wrote:

No you're right, Cic, it isn't just America. To be honest, I very much doubt that a black candidate could make it to the top job in British politics. And I don't think any of our mainstream parties would risk fielding a black prime ministerial candidate.

Why do you think that is? I always get the impression that you guys (UK), and the Europeans in general hold themselves up to be more progressive in that sense than the US. Some how we are the more oppressive nation when compared to the advanced thinking EU. What are your thoughts on that specifically?

From CNN

Townsfolk in England have delivered their explosive verdict on Sarah Palin, stuffing a giant effigy of the U.S. Republican vice presidential nominee with fireworks and blowing her up to raucous cheers.

The unusual display was the climax of an annual bonfire celebration Saturday in the southern town of Battle, where political figures are a favorite target of a local tradition that sees a different icon destroyed each year.

This year's creation was a rather unflattering depiction of the self-declared "hockey mom," a machine gun brandished in her muscular arms, bright red lipstick surrounding a grimacing smile and a moose at her side.

Daubed beneath her was the slogan: "Too hot to handle."

The caricature of the Alaskan governor was flanked by a smaller effigy of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, wearing a military-style helmet.

Organizers of the event, which saw a procession of flaming torches march through the historic town before igniting a bonfire and detonating the effigy, say the politically-themed pyrotechnics were not meant to cause offense.

"We just felt she was one of the most interesting characters in the American elections," Matt Southam told the Rye and Battle Observer.

"It's tongue-in-cheek and she's getting more attention that the other two, so she seemed like an ideal candidate."

The event, believed to date back to 1646, has seen British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his predecessor Tony Blair go up in smoke in recent years.

Despite heavy rain, Palin's likeness went up in seconds -- a shower of sparks followed by an giant bang, and a polite and rather amused round of applause.

Pictures at the link.

Cheney endorses McCain and becomes star of Obama campaign.

Personally, I think McCain would have been better off claiming an Al-Qaeda endorsement.

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama highlights Vice President Dick Cheney's support for Republican nominee John McCain in a new ad out Sunday.

"I'm delighted to support John McCain," Cheney says. "I'm pleased that he's chosen a running mate with executive talent, toughness and common sense, our next vice president Sarah Palin."

The praise from Cheney, who routinely has some of the lowest approval ratings of any national political figure, came as Obama has been arguing that McCain is too closely tied to the policies of the Bush administration.

Well these could be real pictures, really.

http://funwithmccain.com/

ZenGum wrote:

Palin gang-banged in Britain

Ahem... in the US, "gang-bang" means something very different.

classicman;498301 wrote:

hanging a mannequin - any mannequin is very uncool. man or beast.

What about the mannequins that are hung up just in the spirit of bein spooky for Halloween? That's the main part about Halloween isn't it? Dead hung people look creeeepy! Especially to me, after that year one jumped down and chased me.

DanaC;498229 wrote:

Unless America has some hidden history of hanging women in large numbers?

Actually, we do. 1692, I believe.

Those were ducks.

Griff;500166 wrote:

Those were ducks.

Ducks that weighed as much as wood.

churches! churches!


this year for Paradox i've been cast in a short piece taking a roughly 10-page section from the Crucible, then segueing into the holy grail witch scene.

TheMercenary;500125 wrote:

Well these could be real pictures, really.

http://funwithmccain.com/

I liked this one best.

Either way I fear neither Obama nor McCain is who we are truly electing President. Obama is an assassination target, and McCain is ancient. So I predict that ere the term is over, we'll have President Biden or President Palin.

And btw if "B" girl had made it an "O" instead, her mirror-induced dyslexia wouldn't have mattered. :) Doh!