Will the Conservatives please stand up?!

deathlysilence • Sep 22, 2008 2:27 pm
Hey I am new here! I am writing an extended definition essay on global warming... I need a conservatives definition of "Global Warming" so if any one can help it would be MUCH appreciated... I'll give anyone with a good definition a COOKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks in advance!!!!!! :D
Sheldonrs • Sep 22, 2008 6:32 pm
deathlysilence;485930 wrote:
Hey I am new here! I am writing an extended definition essay on global warming... I need a conservatives definition of "Global Warming" so if any one can help it would be MUCH appreciated... I'll give anyone with a good definition a COOKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks in advance!!!!!! :D


Global Warming: Democrats definition - The effects of greenhouse gases such as fossil fuel emmissions on the Earth's atomosphere as well the effects the resultant atmospheric changes has on all life forms.

Global Warming: Republican definition - God huggin' us closer.
smoothmoniker • Sep 22, 2008 6:40 pm
love doing other people's homework. love it.
lumberjim • Sep 22, 2008 7:39 pm
do you mean Conservationist?
classicman • Sep 22, 2008 8:03 pm
The temperature of the earth increasing. Based upon what is where the debate comes in.
SteveDallas • Sep 22, 2008 8:17 pm
smoothmoniker;485977 wrote:
love doing other people's homework. love it.

You said it! Whether liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat, that's one thing everybody on the internet agrees about: we don't do homework for people.

(Well, unless you're offering to pay. Then it's considered outsourcing.)

Anyway, I don't think it's a lazy student. I call troll. Anybody who really wanted a conservative perspective on global warming could get one in about half the time it takes to register a Cellar account.
Cloud • Sep 22, 2008 8:52 pm
Be nice, please, she came here at my suggestion. She posted over at Tribalectic, a body piercing board, and I'm thinking . . . there aren't too many conservatives over there, so I thought maybe someone here might be able to help her.

Certainly not me.
DanaC • Sep 22, 2008 9:00 pm
Besides, what she is doing is doing her homework. She is attempting to find out what conservatives think about this issue. What is the conservative position?

Hallo and welcome to the Cellar!
Cloud • Sep 22, 2008 9:10 pm
I think I would start with looking for debates with or responses to Dole; his opponents are going to be stating the opposite position.
Clodfobble • Sep 22, 2008 11:03 pm
Dole?
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 23, 2008 12:02 am
Yeah, the pineapple guy... he loves global warming, it's good for his crops. :haha:
Cloud • Sep 23, 2008 12:42 am
gore! darnit. I don't know why I always get that confused in my mind.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 23, 2008 12:43 am
Because they're both idiots.
lumberjim • Sep 23, 2008 12:51 am
that was funny. i lol'ed
Shawnee123 • Sep 23, 2008 12:09 pm
Wait a minute. What if I'm not a conservative? Does this mean I must stay seated? For all eternity? Crap!
wolf • Sep 23, 2008 1:54 pm
The whole (green)house(effect) of cards is based on a data error.

No such thing.
deathlysilence • Sep 24, 2008 4:25 pm
ummmm...well i have been researching for the past week and i needed peoples opinions.... so sorry if its a bother but i dont want you to do my homework...i just wanted opinions... usually people love giving their opinions.... huh... WTF?!
thanks to those who weren't trying to be smart ass's lol:p
classicman • Sep 24, 2008 4:28 pm
Death - (lol) please elaborate on exactly what you want. THe people here will certainly help.
deathlysilence • Sep 24, 2008 4:31 pm
I just want to know how a conservative would define global warming... i know how a liberal defines it... i have managed to piece together somewhat of one...
classicman • Sep 24, 2008 4:56 pm
deathlysilence;486602 wrote:
I just want to know how a conservative would define global warming... i know how a liberal defines it... i have managed to piece together somewhat of one...


classicman;486005 wrote:
The temperature of the earth increasing. Based upon what is where the debate comes in.
wolf • Sep 24, 2008 4:58 pm
This should sum it up.
deathlysilence • Sep 24, 2008 5:23 pm
ok thanks a lot sorry if I was a pain in the butt!!! :P
deathlysilence • Sep 24, 2008 6:23 pm
The term attached to the notion that the Earth’s temperature is increasing due to the greenhouse effect.

I FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me know watcha think!!!!!!:) :)
Undertoad • Sep 24, 2008 7:01 pm
You found what now?
Clodfobble • Sep 24, 2008 7:05 pm
I think he's saying that

The term attached to the notion that the Earth’s temperature is increasing due to the greenhouse effect.


is the "conservative position" on global warming. Thus showing that it doesn't matter if we do his homework for him or not, he's still gonna end up working at the Dairy Queen.
SteveDallas • Sep 24, 2008 7:13 pm
I love Blizzards.
Cloud • Sep 24, 2008 7:15 pm
I love pineapple!
deathlysilence • Sep 24, 2008 8:11 pm
Clodfobble;486659 wrote:
I think he's saying that



is the "conservative position" on global warming. Thus showing that it doesn't matter if we do his homework for him or not, he's still gonna end up working at the Dairy Queen.


OK that is f****ing it! First of all I am a FEMALE! Second I take my education damn seriously! I already work 2 jobs and neither of them consist of anything related to a fast food restaurant! I needed opinions to study thank you very much so you can F**** off!:mad2:
Cloud • Sep 24, 2008 8:20 pm
well, I warned her. sorry, Ms. Deathlysilence.

Guess it's not too good an idea to refer people here . . .I should have known better, but I feel bad.
smoothmoniker • Sep 24, 2008 8:48 pm
Oh, feel free to refer people here, only please ask them try and not to make every damn post sound like an lolcatz.
Clodfobble • Sep 24, 2008 9:01 pm
deathlysilence wrote:
OK that is f****ing it! First of all I am a FEMALE! Second I take my education damn seriously! I already work 2 jobs and neither of them consist of anything related to a fast food restaurant! I needed opinions to study thank you very much so you can F**** off!


Aw, look. I'm not suggesting you're a slacker. But seriously, you can't see that

The term attached to the notion that the Earth’s temperature is increasing due to the greenhouse effect.


is a completely useless statement? You will fail your paper if you present that as the conservative position on global warming. The greenhouse effect is a direct synonym for global warming. I'm guessing you got that definition from someone on another messageboard, which is why it's not a good idea to research your papers on messageboards.

Here's a hint: your teacher is looking for you to talk about the different ideas that liberals and conservatives have about what is causing global warming.
deathlysilence • Sep 24, 2008 9:12 pm
I have already discussed the causes... i just needed a short addition to generalize a conservative definition, then i elaborated.
classicman • Sep 24, 2008 11:33 pm
Did you at least mention the CO2 emitted from things such as air conditioners and the like? That might have a lil something to do with what you are talking about.
classicman • Sep 24, 2008 11:35 pm
Jim - eh hem JIM! you effin slacker - How is it that you didn't submit a quiz to deathlysilent(ce) C'mon man, vacation is OVAHHHHHHH!
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 25, 2008 1:22 am
Global warming is an observed phenomenon.

The causes are being debated.
One camp says it's man made.
One camp says it's a natural phenomenon..
One camp says it natural but man is accelerating it.

The end effect is being debated.
One camp predicts terrible consequences.
One camp predicts changes, but not disastrous effects.

What we can do about it is being debated.
One camp says we must act decisively and swiftly to avoid disaster.
One camp says it's too late, the die is cast.
One camp says we can only affect the outcome slightly.

If you label any of the aforementioned camps, as conservative or liberal... you fail.
classicman • Sep 25, 2008 9:38 am
Excellent xob! Now do the same for that global cooling issue we were having in the 70's.
lumberjim • Sep 25, 2008 10:03 am
classicman;486733 wrote:
Jim - eh hem JIM! you effin slacker - How is it that you didn't submit a quiz to deathlysilent(ce) C'mon man, vacation is OVAHHHHHHH!

I think we know all we need to know about miss DQ, thanks.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 25, 2008 10:39 am
classicman;486806 wrote:
Excellent xob! Now do the same for that global cooling issue we were having in the 70's.
Well, the Original Farmer's Almanac, not to be confused with that upstart Farmer's Almanac that came along in 1815ish, still believes we're entering a cooling cycle. It remains to be seen if man can temper that with our contributions.
HungLikeJesus • Sep 25, 2008 11:29 am
xoxoxoBruce;486754 wrote:
Global warming is an observed phenomenon.

The causes are being debated.
One camp says it's man made.
One camp says it's a natural phenomenon..
One camp says it natural but man is accelerating it.

The end effect is being debated.
One camp predicts terrible consequences.
One camp predicts changes, but not disastrous effects.

What we can do about it is being debated.
One camp says we must act decisively and swiftly to avoid disaster.
One camp says it's too late, the die is cast.
One camp says we can only affect the outcome slightly.

If you label any of the aforementioned camps, as conservative or liberal... you fail.


Is this about climate change or the financial crisis?
deathlysilence • Sep 25, 2008 6:20 pm
classicman;486732 wrote:
Did you at least mention the CO2 emitted from things such as air conditioners and the like? That might have a lil something to do with what you are talking about.

Yup,Mentioned about the CO2 emissions! I used vehicles as an example. I gave the dictionary definition of global warming, a conservative definition, a liberal definition, my opinion, and I am planning to conclude by asking the reader what meaning they attach to global warming. Encouraging them to search out what they think it means. Because everyone views it a bit differently! Oh and the Miss DQ commits; laugh it up fuzzballs!
classicman • Sep 25, 2008 7:45 pm
I would love to read what your two definitions are. Please post them.
jinx • Sep 25, 2008 7:51 pm
Did you discuss the warming trends on Mars, Jupiter, Pluto, Triton etc.. or do they not fit the 'global' definition?
ZenGum • Sep 25, 2008 11:17 pm
HungLikeJesus;486860 wrote:
Is this about climate change or the financial crisis?


Ding!!!!

:notworthy
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 26, 2008 12:14 am
jinx;487010 wrote:
Did you discuss the warming trends on Mars, Jupiter, Pluto, Triton etc.. or do they not fit the 'global' definition?
I saw a show the other night about how some people are proposing to build a human base on mars, and releasing a shitload of freon and methane, to see if Mars can develop an atmosphere similar to Earth. :eek:
Sundae • Sep 26, 2008 7:40 am
Cloud;486672 wrote:
well, I warned her. sorry, Ms. Deathlysilence.

Guess it's not too good an idea to refer people here . . .I should have known better, but I feel bad.

Are you apologising because you didn't give her the proper information?

Ms Deathlysilence - I know a board you can ask this question on. They're a diverse bunch, but in general well disposed and intelligent people. Very intelligent for the most part. If you explain what you want and why you want it - and it would help if you explained I'd referred you - they are likely to give you a good deal of help. Warning - they don't suffer fools gladly, and can sometimes be cutting. Shrug it off and you might find you get more than the answers you need - you might even find board that is interested in your opinions and whose opinions interest you in return.


For the record I had no issue with DS's post - I didn't reply because I can in no way call myself a conservative. I do have an issue with the fact she's telling people to fuck off within a few posts though. It's the old tavern analogy again - I'm sorry she came into my favourite space and told people I like to fuck off.
deathlysilence • Sep 26, 2008 8:59 am
Ok I will post them later...and telling people to F*** off I am sorry for! I shouldn't have but I have a short temper lol!
Shawnee123 • Sep 26, 2008 9:01 am
deathlysilence;487088 wrote:
Ok I will post them later...and telling people to F*** off I am sorry for! I shouldn't have but I have a short temper lol!


Are you related to me? ;)
ZenGum • Sep 26, 2008 9:06 am
Welcome to the cellar, DeathlySilence123!
Sundae • Sep 26, 2008 9:14 am
Welcome deathly silence, posting an apology is very good manners and very decent. In return I am sorry if I was a bit stuffy.
classicman • Sep 26, 2008 9:46 am
ZenGum;487097 wrote:
Welcome to the cellar, DeathlySilence123!


tff - you beat me to it!
Cloud • Sep 26, 2008 9:55 am
Yes, I warned her . . . but only after the fact. whoops! I'd forgotten how it felt to be a noob here.

Looks like she may have the stones for her after all, yay! :)
Sundae • Sep 26, 2008 10:05 am
It's sometimes a baptism of fire. But some of our most worthy posters have come through it [tips hat]
deathlysilence • Sep 26, 2008 10:19 am
Shawnee123;487092 wrote:
Are you related to me? ;)


Quite possibly LOL :3eye:
dar512 • Sep 26, 2008 10:20 am
xoxoxoBruce;487048 wrote:
I saw a show the other night about how some people are proposing to build a human base on mars, and releasing a shitload of freon and methane, to see if Mars can develop an atmosphere similar to Earth. :eek:

If you don't love this idea, you probably haven't read Ray Bradbury's Martian Chronicles.
deathlysilence • Sep 26, 2008 10:20 am
Sundae Girl;487102 wrote:
Welcome deathly silence, posting an apology is very good manners and very decent. In return I am sorry if I was a bit stuffy.


Aww you weren't! But it is well! So no harsh feelings! :D
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 26, 2008 5:40 pm
dar512;487144 wrote:
If you don't love this idea, you probably haven't read Ray Bradbury's Martian Chronicles.
Is that where they get this stupid shit from? :rolleyes:
regular.joe • Sep 26, 2008 6:37 pm
Cloud;486081 wrote:
gore! darnit. I don't know why I always get that confused in my mind.


Because they are both impotent?:D
Cloud • Sep 26, 2008 7:27 pm
I disclaim any personal knowledge of that fact!
NoBoxes • Sep 29, 2008 5:21 am
deathlysilence;485930 wrote:
... I need a conservatives definition of "Global Warming" ...


"Strategic posturing for nuclear winter."

[COLOR="White"]If the planet warms up enough, we can set off a few conveniently placed nukes to cool things down again (pursuant to the Weapons of Mass Salvation Doctrine). Shhhhh! Tippy Top Secret.[/COLOR]
ZenGum • Sep 29, 2008 9:32 am
NoBoxes, you're scaring me.