Little Teenage Bitch thread
I'm preemptively making myself a thread here to bitch about romance in the months to come.
why does winter have to be so damn romantic?
and there's so much romance in the air already
what with doing Midsummer Night's Dream and what-have-you
and bleh.
i know its coming
so yeah, preemptive bitching thread.
Where are the little teenage bitches? [/Drax]
I was going to go with
This thread useless without pictures[/inappropriate][/on many levels]
Love, romance, happiness, feelings of joy and good will all fade.
Stick with bitterness, hatred and cruelty. They never let you down.
;)
And these days, even though you've moved out of town and changed your name, they still track you down...on facebook.
:redface: :smack:
And these days, even though you've moved out of town and changed your name, they still track you down...on facebook.
:redface: :smack:
Yup.Heh. I made it to fb far too late for any of my youthful indescretions to be found there. What's the point, then? I dunno.
Yeah, I've had a distinct lack of seeing lurid photos of anybody's indiscretions on Facebook. (Of course, most of my friends are old classmates whose thirties are receding as fast as their hairlines.)
interesting how you equate romance with bitch. I'd say that's a classic self-defeating attitude. And just btw? Not attractive to anyone, bitch or not.
I thought this thread was about a little teenage bitch. I was thinking "uh-oh someone has gone and broke Ibz' heart." Good to see that its just a preemptive thread about having your heart broken :). Don't forget to include the positive in your posts too.
Include the positive?
"At least she accidentally left a quarter in the cushions after she told me that she never wanted to see me again, because the next day, I got one of those really big gumballs. The, End."
Does that include inlcuding the HIV positive? Cause, while social inlcusion sounds good, there are certain ... precautions ...
interesting how you equate romance with bitch. I'd say that's a classic self-defeating attitude. And just btw? Not attractive to anyone, bitch or not.
I thought he was 'bitching' about romance. It's a teenage bitch about romance. Or did I totally miss the point of this thread?
No, dana, you got it.
silly cloud.
Who are you playing in MSND?
We did it when I was 12 and I still have whole chunks of it by heart.
Oh in fact here's a pic of us as fairies!
I feel like I'm being crushed by this sense of
powerful, deep, angry and bitter
but very subtle and background
sense of isolation, of loneliness.
I need someone, man. I don't even really care who, and I don't even really care what we do or what we are to eachother. I just need someone to be with.
I feel like I'm being crushed by this sense of
powerful, deep, angry and bitter
but very subtle and background
sense of isolation, of loneliness.
I need someone, man. I don't even really care who, and I don't even really care what we do or what we are to eachother. I just need someone to be with.
Ahhhhh....a perfect portrait of the human condition. I know that feeling well....I struggled against it the entire time I was single (40 years worth!).
I feel like I'm being crushed by this sense of
powerful, deep, angry and bitter
but very subtle and background
sense of isolation, of loneliness.
I need someone, man. I don't even really care who, and I don't even really care what we do or what we are to eachother. I just need someone to be with.
Are there any gay youth organizations near you? Clubs that don't serve alcohol? Church groups that don't shove Jesus at you?
no, maybe, and no.
and i'm not just lookin' for a friend - i've got a buncha those
it's the NEXT level i'm missin'.
Are there any gay youth organizations near you? Clubs that don't serve alcohol? Church groups that don't shove Jesus at you?
Since when did you start recruiting for the scouts?
Are there any gay youth organizations near you? Clubs that don't serve alcohol? Church groups that don't shove Jesus at you?
no, maybe, and no.
and i'm not just lookin' for a friend - i've got a buncha those
it's the NEXT level i'm missin'.
I think that might be what Sheldon is trying to find you...
well, sure, but, like i said
no non-jesus-pushing church groups,
and no gay youth groups that i can find.
Hmm. Seeing this thread reminded me of when I was 25, and I begrudgingly started dating an 18yo.
Biggest. Mistake. Of my life.
Teenager drama. There's a reason why you want to go to college and get AWAY from High School drama. Because it's petty, silly, and downright stupid.
I think that might be what Sheldon is trying to find you...
Correct. And maybe, if you don't already have one, a part-time job somewhere that hires people around your age Ib. You're a nice looking kid. That's always a plus when looking to find someone.
Can't get a job - you have to be 18 to get a work permit, and I'm a lao wai (ferriner) anyway, so that's out.
On the other hand... I asked the wonderful wonderful girl who lives downstairs (who is the ONLY person i've ever met, my age, who can hold their own in music trivia with me) if she wanted to grab dinner saturday night, and she said she'd see about it... but that's better than a no, and she sounded fairly positive towards the idea. Wish me luck?
(the only thing is, even if she says yes... i'm not sure she realizes I meant it as a date. oh well... maybe it'll work out.)
i'm not sure she realizes I meant it as a date.
thats a good thing! ten there is no pressure and you can let things flow naturally without all the pressure.
~snip~I need someone, man. I don't even really care who, and I don't even really care what we do or what we are to eachother. I just need someone to be with.
Ibby, you're a good guy. Don't think you have to be with someone just to be with someone. Doing that is a sure way of not finding the right person.
whoa.
she just got mugged, literally RIGHT around the corner from the building.
like i can actually SEE the place where it happened from our balcony.
i was standing in the living room
and i hear a girl scream bloody murder, help me, help me
i run out onto the balcony to see what the hell is going on
i see a girl in a red dress run through the gate as a couple guys on a moped speed off
i run in to get my glasses but i still cant see if it's her or not
then her mom comes out on their balcony and starts yelling down to her
and shes like, 'i got robbed, they took my bag'
i throw on a shirt and grab some flip-flops and go down
a few other people from the building come out to see what they can do
one of the dads from the building hops on his bike and rides the direction they went
i just kinda stand there with her, give her a little hug, talk to her, joke around, make her feel better a bit
her dad's talking to the cops in chinese, cause his is better than hers
finally she goes off to the police station (which, might i add, is less than a hundred yards from where they mugged her) with her dad
i give her another little comforting sorta hug
she gives me a big ol' tight hug, a thank-you sorta thing
well, i guess if we do dinner tomorrow night, it's on me, huh.
This is good. You were concerned and showed her you care.
This could get you some serious thank you sex. ;-)
hahahaha
This thread has disappointed me (no offense, Ibby) I was expecting some huge rant on some actual little teenage bitch.
I mean, I can start you off it you want---I once WAS a little teenage bitch myself.
Yeah, well I was a teenage werewolf.
Yeah, well I was a teenage werewolf.
Isn't that pretty much the same thing as a teenage bitch? :D
This thread has disappointed me (no offense, Ibby) I was expecting some huge rant on some actual little teenage bitch.
I mean, I can start you off it you want---I once WAS a little teenage bitch myself.
nono, see, yer still not gettin' it.
I'M the little teenage bitch, was my point
and this is the thread where i bitch about things...
(or, if my luck turns, where i celebrate it, i s'pose)
She's gotta go down to the police station, but as soon as she gets back she's gonna come upstairs and get me, and we're gonna go get dinner.
Nice.
Dinner was nice
walked home, talked, etc
all in all more like hanging out than a date, but still
it was fun
and i really do like this girl. damn.
Very nice Ibz, you can't do any better than you already are I don't think. Just take your time and enjoy it.
CONGRATS, Ibram. Hope things work out for you :) Glad to hear you got the first step down okay!
Why do i always fall head-over-heels so fast, so hard?
'Cause you're a teenager. (Read the thread title again.)
Don't worry, the condition is transitory.
i just dont know where to go from here
i dont wanna come on strong and turn her off
but if i dont do anything then i'd never see her
even though she lives a matter of FEET away from me.
she's even worse than me about not leaving the house
she's just not that outgoing
Maybe she will adore the attention. Invite her for another innocent outing, to get the both of you out of the house.
if taipei had any music scene to speak of i'd totally find a concert to take her to
but nobody comes to taiwan.
Most people are insane. The trick is to find one whose insanities work best with your own.
maybe it's the 8 bottles of cheap chinese red bull knockoff i drank this evening talking but
i really want to DO something about this whole thing.
like NOW. or at least resolve to commit to some plan of action or something. right now its just too much of a juvenile, heart-fluttering-as-she-passes, scared-to-really-talk-to-her, how-do-i-ask-her-out kinda thing.
i just put down what amounts to i'd say
a good six or seven shots of about 80% mixed liquor (a bit of everything in the cabinet) and 20% coke (so it looks about the same as iced tea, and is inconspicuous in a nestea bottle)
so i'm gonna take that as my cue to go to bed and stop bitching here.
i'm hoping the alcohol and the red bull balance eachother out a bit and let me sleep.
...im not so optimistic about the chances of it working, though.
That's the spirit, speedball yourself into a heart attack before you're 16. ;)
psst, i'm 17...
oh, right. bed. that bit. forgot that part. heh.
Sorry, Ib. :blush:
Get some sleep!
I think I will start a band called Little Teenage Bitch.
thanks,Ibby.
Well, since you seem determined to end this before it begins, and even though I think male-female relationships are un-natural, the least you can do is drink a few more red bull knock-offs, bang her like a gong, say thanks for the sex and then get a good nights' sleep.
OR:
You can ask her out again and take a chance that you're wrong and this could be something good.
Now get out of the house more and get her out of hers too!!
bang her like a gong
So what you're saying is he should use a big, long stick?
Ibby, go easy on the energy drinks (as well as the booze). Can be very bad for you.
Instead of asking her OUT, ask her IN. Study. Watch a DVD. Just hang out. If neither of you are inclined to "go out", then go in. so to speak.
then go in. so to speak.
That' a great suggestion. You could even bring her around to a different entrance to your place, other than the one most people use, and as you walk in, ask her, "Do you mind using the back door?"
so um where do i go from here?
i just cant figure out how to get from here to
...anywhere that isn't here
just telling her i have a crush on her is just
too juvenile and middle-school.
im gonna try your suggestion there, zen. invite her up to watch a movie or something.
she hasnt seen raising arizona, i dont think. if i can dig out our DVD of it i might try that this coming weekend....
I was going to say, avoid anything with a mugging scene, since it might upset her after her recent experience.
Then I thought, yeah, and when she's upset, you can "comfort" her.
Your call.
Ibby, honey, I don't want to sound like a nagging old trout, but go easy on the spirits and bull. The line between inebriation and alcoholic poisoning is a lot thinner than you might think. And Bull is pretty toxic in large amounts.
Good point Dana.
About half a bottle of spirits gulped down in say, 30 minutes, will. kill. you.
Acute alcohol poisoning kills 15 to 20 Australians every year. Chronic alcohol poisoning, on the other hand, probably kills tens of thousands.
Energy drinks bugger your kidneys and cause heart attacks.
Stick to sex and cannabis.
Best advice I've heard in months! :notworthy:
it wasn't THAT much... [SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]mum.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
How'd you go with that Typhoon, Ibram?
typhoon's no big thing, just a bit of rain. taipei proper doesnt usually get anything worse than a bit of water and some downed branches.
so i've decided that
since i look damn good in a suit
i'm gonna take her out to dinner again soonish
to somewhere really nice, swanky, fancy
nominally, more as just a chance to play dress-up and such
but, obviously, more about her than anything else.
now i just gotta find the place and the cash...
Hope she likes that - Some would rather be relaxed and comfortable instead.
Hope she likes that - Some would rather be relaxed and comfortable instead.
True. It's not always about the big gesture (that's what
you want).
I liked the slobbing out with a good movie idea better.
Women are far more likely to find you hot as a person, rather than as an image. Some men change their minds about a woman just because of their clothes, women tend to rely more on behaviour.
Most SG - most - not all.
You're quite right. I originally wrote, "Men can change their minds about a woman just because of their clothes" but that was perhaps unfairly weighted. Amended it after reading Classicman's response.
But I thought you made a good point because Ib's paramour doesn't like to go out and has recently been mugged. Suggests she'd at least be amenable to a night in watching a movie rather than being on display.
Maybe you can ask her what she would rather do, and give her several options. That would be thoughtful.
What??? Women have preferences of their own?
Holy moly.
Maybe you can ask her what she would rather do, and give her several options. That would be thoughtful.
What??? Women have preferences of their own?
Holy moly.
Wha wha what?? I did NOT get that memo. When did that happen?
Yes, I know...It's a crazy suggestion but it just might be crazy enough to work! ;)
Enough of this foreplay! Boink her and brush her off the way GOD intended!!!
Brush her off???
The mind reels....
Take it to the orgy thread, SD!
I'm just saying... it doesn't sound familiar to me.
oh, damn...
her old friend from beijing is in town this weekend
so she's all busy with him
oh well.
What's the problem, Ibram? Aren't you up for a threesome? ;)
okay, update time.
being the fickle teenager i am
i've given up on her, its a no-go.
unfortunately my newest crush is even more implausible...
she's in my theatre class, and sits by me in science, and shes really funny and cute etc, but she's way outta my league.
how can i be so sure she's so far out of my league?
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skip to about 6:30. that's here there at the end before it cuts to credits... and thats her singing the song at the end, over the credits.
yeah, you know there's a problem when you've got a crush on a movie star.
take a screen cap it'll last longer.
Ibs, you're young, good looking and American.
Fer Chrissakes don't be scared of successful women - wowing them is your birthright!
Look at all the successfule ralationships between stars and "ordinary" folk.
Julia Roberts married a production asst. (or something like that)
Sandra Bullock married a mechanic.
Guy Ritchie married a prostitute (oops! never mind) :-)
Just start as friends and see what happens, ya dork!
You realise, Ibram, that after you start dating this chick, YOU are going to wind up as a movie star too. You're handsome, into drama, a little exotic (by local standards) ... what's the problem?
the problem is
that i psych myself out about everything.
meh. i dunno what ive got to lose. i might actually do something about this one.
She's not out of your league Ibby. I only know you from your pics and posts on here, but that's enough to tell me you are a very cool lad.
Like Zen says, you're handsome (very!) and into drama (would be very surprised if you didn't end up doing something terribly cool and creative with your life) and a little exotic to the girls you're likely to encounter.
I suspect if you spent a year in England, you'd have a bevy of 17 year old girlies hanging on your every word >P
Hey, nothing like a girl in uniform... go for it!!!
I suspect if you spent a year in England, you'd have a bevy of 17 year old girlies hanging on your every word >P
Y'wouldn't happen to have a couch I could crash on for a couple months, would you?
so um
major major updates.
really dont feel like detailing the whole thing
but um lemme simplify
i'm in a sort-of relationship (like friends with benefits but closer and exclusive) with this really really rad but... not extremely attractive (don't get me wrong, she's really cute and has a beautiful smile though, im not saying shes UNattractive) girl who's apparently had a crush on me for a while and who i (obviously) think is really rad
well she come over around 6:15 with a 10 o'clock curfew to watch some doctor who with me.
we got through about an episode and a half before it prettymuch turned into a makeout session.
a really, really, really good makeout session.
my mom's asleep on the couch in the den, right off the living room where we are, so i say, here, lets go sit over here, in the little nook sorta by the front door
but the chairs are just too small and its not so comfortable
and im like... would it be over the line if we like, did this in my room?
and she goes, not to me..!
so we proceed to lay on my bed and makeout for the next hour or so
and i just got back from dropping her off at her house just in time for curfew.
oh man. its so nice being with someone who isn't a lesbian.
oh man. its so nice being with someone who isn't a lesbian.
I'm sure she says the same thing about you. :D
WOOT WOOT!
Way to go Ibram (you fickle little teenager you!)
Sheldon! Behave! Or we'll send you to your room!
WOOT WOOT!
Way to go Ibram (you fickle little teenager you!)
Sheldon! Behave! Or we'll send you to your room!
I can either behave or be Sheldon. I can't do both! :cool:
oh man it is so nice to FINALLY be getting some on a regular (read: daily) basis.
and yeah, for us young folk, makin' out is still gettin' some.
*smiles* sounds lovely Ibby. That, right there, is what bein young's all about:)
I love being young and in my prime...
:D
Just call me Jimmy Carter.
That comment would fly over the heads of 90% of the population, but I bet most here on the Cellar get it. Jimmy.
[size=1]...Ah, crap, I don't get the Jimmy Carter reference. I hate not being in the top 10%.[/size]
Ibram, not only is she adorable, you can tell she's got the same attitude and sense of style that you do. Hang on to this one.
[SIZE="1"]I don't get the Carter reference either, and I'm much older than you Clodfobble.[/SIZE]
Ibby...she's such a cutie! Good for you!
Jimmy Carter has
lust in his heart.
Oh yeah! Now I remember! :blush:
In an interview with Playboy magazine, the devout Baptist Carter said, "I've looked on many women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times." I've always been struck by the irony of the line. (And sympathized with it.)
ETA: I also have late posting syndrome.
Yup, and for the record, I never said I was in the top 10%.
Would anybody say Cliff Clavin is in the top 10%?
:lol:
That's right, really smart people have better things to think about, and really dumb people are just really dumb--so only the very average-est middle 10% of the population will get the reference.
Heehee...I used to laugh at my friend in HS. Years later she would say "remember when we went to so and so's party? You wore that one purple sweater and those black shoes you liked."
I couldn't remember what I wore yesterday.
This girl wasn't a rocket scientist. I always just figured she had less stuff crowding up her brain so could remember those kinds of details.
But I should talk: movie quotes, tv show quotes, and song lyrics. For some reason, they get stuck in my head. Of course, repetition plays a part: I've seen Pulp Fiction about 50 times and quote it a lot!
:)
Oh she's a sweety! and very cool looking too, just like you Ibby. Clod's right, she seems to share your attitude and sense of style.
And, yeah, she is looking at you in a way that suggests she likes you.
oh my GOD.
so.
today was mostly a repeat of last saturday.. except the house was TOTALLY empty except for us.
for about four hours.
as the evening progressed more and more clothes were done away with. and then all were done away with. then... well, first some fingering, then she wanted to fuck...but after finally managing to get the condom on, i had sorta killed it for me, and then she was uncomfortable cause i'd sorta popped her cherry fingering her and the blood wasnt so nice, and so we cleaned up and bit and just cuddled and kissed for a while.
but.. next time i get some private time with her
oh my god.
*smiles*
God what an age to be.
She doesn't look very androgynous to me. :headshake
Way to go, Ibram! Just remember, A.) it's no fun having your parents walk in on you, so always be double-sure of their schedules, and B.) keep doing the smart thing, no matter how frustrating the condoms may be. SRSLY.
c.) don't ever let her read this thread :P
B-1) Practice masturbating with condoms, until handling them becomes second nature.
welll i tried that once at least, and it seemed easy enough... its just a lot harder with her sitting there watching and waiting.
so. awkward.
oh did i mention
my soundtrack while all of this was going on
was prince's 1999.
so perfect.
I've heard it can be fun to have her be the one putting it on you.
I wouldn't really know, though. Not real experienced in that department.
I think the main thing is to maintain a sense of humor though. :)
B-1-a) No, put them on and masturbate.
B-1-a-i) No, man, on your dick.
When my then-gf and I lost our virginity, I blew my wad the minute I put a condom on...then I got performance anxiety...then she dried out. But when we finally got on the same page, we fucked like there was no tomorrow. This all happened in the span of a few hours on Christmas Day 14 years ago...and all was right with the world. :)
1999 is good...I would also suggest Seal's first two albums and NIN's Downward Spiral if you're feeling particularly naughty.
Ravel's Bolero? Much more arty.
Ahh, to be young and in lust. Oops love. Love, I meant love.
Ibs - definitely get her to put it on for you. Foreplay is for men as well as women, and if putting on a contraceptive is part of foreplay then you both win.
If you're using non-lubricated it's great for a woman to put it on with her mouth. If you both try it and have fun with it, she'll be learning a skill that will blow away (pun intended) a future lover, and you'll be getting a quasi blowjob.
(Apologies if you're in love and believe you will be with her for life)
Oh and in closing - YAYYYYY!
Good for you (both). Sex is so exciting and all-encompassing at the beginning. Sex sex sex sex sex.
You popped her cherry with your finger? What were you playing? Muppets?
lol!!
i thought of that but
eww dicks are icky
and i didnt wanna make her do that to mine
on the other hand when i killed it trying to get it on i did get her to try to revive it...
but meh
next time.
ETA: what can i say sheldon, i've got bassist's fingers.
i thought of that but
eww dicks are icky
and i didnt wanna make her do that to mine
on the other hand when i killed it trying to get it on i did get her to try to revive it...
but meh
next time.
ETA: what can i say sheldon, i've got bassist's fingers.
Guess that makes you a Bass fisherman. lol!!!
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
This thread is awesome.
Oh, the memories.
That's it, Sheldon, go to your room!
:lol:
Ew dicks are icky? WTH? I mean yeah a shower is essential to me (unless I'm drunk or just that horny), I used to like givin oral better than gettin. I could cum just doin it for someone. Then again I've been told I have a fixation for that...TMI?
My ex and I never could deal with condoms, either of us. Lube just did not make it better (I really think it was his fault, he just didn't have the patience to get it right). It is important to keep the humor, and be understanding. Just practice like they've said (its not like you wouldn't enjoy that practice :) )
I guess now that I'm on the market and all tho I'll need to use 'em. I've become even more picky about my partners tho, I did my time teachin a guy, I want some lessons myself now.:blush: Still no for now Elz. I'll be sure to let you know when the bus ticket is necessary.
when anyone starts blaiming
Its over !
Dicks is not icky!
Oral should be pleasureable for both parties.
meh i just think dicks are icky.. but that's coming from a bi guy, so... not toooo icky.
heh.
I think dicks are one of the main food groups.
Errr....yes, practice putting on condoms and yes, practice jacking off with condoms. Condoms are essential for a healthy sex life so it is much easier to just get used to them and not bitch and get worked up every time you have to put them on. The negative psychological effects of hating condoms are powerful.
Also, if you feel that you are going to come prematurely, take a few very deep breathes. That should make you last longer (practice this while jacking off as well) and it should be more enjoyable because you can stay at the just pre-point of no return state longer. Remember, the nice guy always finishes last.
... Remember, the nice guy always finishes last.
True. But the GREAT guy is never finished. lol!!
Trying to read between the lines there, I think Ibram just had a very pleasant afternoon/evening .... :D
um, I don't think reading between the lines is necessary... just reading the lines ;)
yehbut...between the lines is where they hide the heroin...
no sex today... shes putting a hold on that until i can get my hands on some spermicide or something... shes a little paranoid about the pregnancy thing, but i can't blame her. So, we just fooled around...
first blowjob today. I approve...
eta: though it was a little weird making out with her afterwards...
Thanks for sharing Ibs! Do you know how many Dwellars wish they were you?
(All of 'em.)
was that 'thanks for sharing' a little sarcastic?
cuz if it was i could cut back a little on the TMI...
I for one don't mind at all... if you don't. My only concern is that, a few years from now, you'll be asking why I can't delete all your posts.
now....the title of this thread is Little Teenage Bitch thread, right? And I'm gathering from reading the last few posts only, that you are now bragging about getting laid and blowed and stuff....not bitching or referencing some other bitch.....
so, now....since this has become a what's new in Ibram's world thread..(which is just fine by me, so dont think i'm bitching at you)....it would seem that YOU, Ibram, have become the 'Little teenage bitch' referenced in the title.
You would have saved so much energy if you'd called it the "Little Teenage Bitching" thread to begin with. :rolleyes:
I'm surprised nobody has asked if Ib "reciprocated" with the oral pleasuring. Time to give your lady some lip service Ibby. hehehe
i tried! she didn't want me to. I did do a little work with my hands though...
and LJ, the point of the whole thread is that, yes, I am the little teenage bitch, and this thread was started so i could idly bitch about romance&shit.
i wasn't expecting things to start going my way, when i made the thread...
Forget the spermicide. It is no longer sold (here, at least) because it isn't very effective.
Condoms, the pill, maybe an IUD are your main options I think. Oh yeah and abstinence. That's the secret. Abstinence. ;)
Seriously, combining condoms and the pill is probably the safest. You two are such young and fertile little puppies, you probably shouldn't even eat wholegrain crackers in bed, in case they germinate. Try explaining THAT to her parents!
You could also try avoiding sex around the time she's ovulating (which is generally 12 - 16 days after the first day of her last period).
There's all sorts of new options including a vaginal ring, a patch, three-month injection.
Those injections are a bit tricky sometimes. They can affect some women emotionally in that they react with the hormones naturally produced and can cause depression and other nasty side effects such as mood swings and get this...loss of sex drive.
If I had a teenage daughter, I'd be using those injections as a last resort.
I was on the injections for years with no problems. I'd recommend them personally. But then I'd recommend the implant even more. It's good not to have to remember to take something, and not to have it affected by illness.
But as Ali says, she needs to be fully aware of potential side effects before she uses any medical form of birth control.
I was speaking from personal experience with the injections, so it definitely happens. I was a lunatic for about 6 months. lol Some might even argue that I've never fully recovered.
*Ahem* avoiding comments about Ali...
I know at least 1 person who had serious issues with the injections. Had some inflammatory issues even.
I personally love the pill, i don't mind takin it since i already got to take vitamins everyday (everyone should!).
Spermicide is just more mess to add to your already awkward situation with condoms. Although, some condoms come with that already built in I believe. I'd say if she doesn't want the pill (which would do great for her skin, regulation, and mood swings anyway), ask her about tryin a IUD. If she's hesitant about goin to the gyno for that stuff
A) She's sexually active, too bad, she has to
B) offer to go with her (and pay half)
OH and congratulations!!!
Why is she hesitant about you giving her oral? I have some great tips (for her and you) about getting over that nervousness...I had it too.
she can't get the pill without her mother, and, well...
no telling the mother.
so we're sorta stuck for a while it looks like.
Are you sure? I did, way back when.
Only catch was that we (bf and I) had to pay the whole bill, no insurance claim.
But I guess it depends on your local laws.
Oh, what memories. One time I went to the doctor for that female stuff - I think I was 17 - and we'd had a bunch of snow the day before. I was driving this big Chevy sedan and *got stuck* in the parking lot. Oh my GOD I was scared. It was supposed to be a SECRET and here I'd have to call my parents to get me unstuck. Fortunately I was able to rock my way out of it, whew! :D
Now, Ib, as a mom...obviously I have no idea what her parents are like...but if my daughter were to find herself in this situation I would hope she would come to me. I'd be sad and disapproving, but all parents were once horny teenagers too. I'd be proud of her for taking responsibility for it instead of just hoping for the best. So you never know; don't discount it as an option - it is better than having an Ibby Jr.
Definitely depends on local laws--you can't get anything from a doctor without parental notification here. Which is not to say that they check the ID of the adult you bring with you. But it can be hard finding someone who looks old enough to be your parent who will actually take you to get birth control and keep the secret.
But Ibram... you're not getting the spermicide as an alternative to the condoms, right? Right? Because spermicide ain't good enough on its own. You can get condoms that are already lubricated with spermicide, if she's just looking for a little extra guarantee.
Actually Clod, you can get b.c. at 17 w/o parental consent in TX. I know, that is when I went and got it. Look around for local health/woman's clinics. I know its not the states where we have Planned Parenthood but ya'll might have some version of. It sounds dirty to some, but also run a search for "abortion clinics" they prob have the same birth control services. Like I've said already, and I can't stress more, if ya'll are gonna be sexually active, you have to go to the doc (you too bub) to be screened for STDs and other issues. I know ya'll are in the clear on the STDs now, but it won't hurt anything. Women, even if they don't change partners, should go after they become active or 18yrs. Personally I think all the age and parental consent laws cause more harm than good, but if there is no other way for her to get a gyno exam, then she's gonna have to talk to her mom.
Another path I just thought of: if she has a family/general doc and can go to them w/o parental consent, tell her to talk to them. General docs here can do woman's health exams and I guess prescribe birth control too. When I was 16yngr my family doc didn't ever need parental consent b/c my mom had signed pprs giving it already...sneaky sneaky huh?
no, clod, i can't get condoms already spermicided; that's the problem, i've looked and can't find them. which means, no tail for ibby 'till he finds an alternative.
we just plain can't get it without her mother knowing; we definitely aren't telling her. It's bad enough having your girlfriend's momma know you're gettin' it on with her daughter... it's a lot worse when she's the school librarian, and knows your parents, and keeps her daughter on a really tight leash, and is pretty uptight about everything in general, and could easily make your life a living hell.
all librarians enjoy anal
Care package for Ibby, anyone? :D
OK, so let's think about this. Ruling out hormonal BC, your alternatives are condoms, spermicide, yanking it out at the right time, NFP, and combinations thereof.
NFP = Natural Family Planning. It's got a bad rap, but when it's done right can really work - especially as part of a combo. At your age doing all the complicated temperature charting crap isn't going to be likely, so along with just keeping track of days (and keep in mind, also at this age - or any age - her cycle may not be regular) there is a thing called cervical mucus. Sounds gross, but it's actually a pretty good indicator of when you ought to not be doing nothin' even with a layer of latex. :) Check out this link -
http://www.mjbovo.com/Contracept/Instruct-NatCerv.htmSo wait, what's the problem with condoms again?
Pretty much every woman in my peer group insisted on their use because the pill isn't 100% effective anyway. And because they're the only barrier against STDs. Again, I know that's not an issue for you right now, but what I'm saying is you'll be dealing with condoms for a long time - if you can get used to them it would be safer and easier.
Re injections - I know more people who have had trouble with the pill than injections. But I do accept YMMV. I've never had any trouble with any birth control, except being too slack to take the pill. And vitamins are in no way necessary for everyone! Children, OAPs, pregnant or nursing mothers.
It's times like this when I think of something my Grandmother always used to say.
"It's just not sex without something in your ass."
I miss Grandma. :D
So wait, what's the problem with condoms again?
She doesn't trust 'em.
She's right not to trust them, like anything else, they're not 100% foolproof.
BUT, they should be augmented, not eliminated. You're betting the rest of your life on it. :eyebrow:
Just do what I do Ib. Fuck her in the ass. :-)
Care package for Ibby, anyone?
Didja sign up for Secret Santa this year, Ibram? :)
no, clod, i can't get condoms already spermicided; that's the problem, i've looked and can't find them. which means, no tail for ibby 'till he finds an alternative.
I'd say look online, but I guess your parents might vet your mail, huh? Maybe that rules out care packages too...
Perhaps he could rent a P.O. box.
Perhaps he could rent a P.O. box.
He already has the box and he's getting pretty PO'd. lol!!!
Ravel's Bolero? Much more arty.
Ahh, to be young and in lust. Oops love. Love, I meant love.
Hmm... Bolero IS pretty good for it, actually. gave it a shot... a little too short, though, yeah. it started over a second time... its kinda hard to tell though, except it just gets quieter and keeps going...
...gave it a shot... a little too short, though, yeah. ...
Sorry to hear that. But I'm sure you make up for it with determination. :-)
Sheldon, I clearly recall sending you to your room. :lol:
Ibram ... bonking the librarian's daughter ... :D !! Nice work.
LJ ... all Librarians enjoy being anal. Important difference.
You know what they call people who use the rhythm method?
Parents.
shel, i meant the SONG was too short. I'm not THAT quick...
so uh chloe came today
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]and by came i dont mean the opposite of went[/COLOR][/SIZE]
You're making MTP jealous ;)
so uh chloe came today
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]and by came i dont mean the opposite of went[/COLOR][/SIZE]
Were you there at the time? ;)
Just one little update...
her christmas present:
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Lovely, good choice.
So, I'm assuming this is why we haven't heard much from you recently?
Lotsa reasons, really... i'm working the past couple weeks, over winter break, before that was finals and the winter formal (pics from that will be up as soon as my mother gets around to emailing them to me...), and before that... yeah, mostly chloe. shes great, and time-consuming in the best possible way.
You're making MTP jealous ;)
He is just practicing for me.
That's a beautiful necklace Ibby, good choice. Aw to be young and infatuated again...*sigh*
I wish you the best, but don't let her take you completely away from us! What underage male would I dream about then?
That is indeed an excellent choice. It was always so heartbreaking to me when boyfriends I cared very much about would give me a really horrendous piece of jewelry, leaving me with no option but to wear it. The best piece of jewelry a boyfriend ever got me... his mother helped him pick it out. :)
There ARE perks to having a queer boyfriend. I got it cause it goes REALLY nicely with her new purple jacket (not the same jacket from the rfn thread, though)