Drax requested "permabanning"
For whatever purposes, he wants to never be able to be here again, so this one is by request.
Of course, he can just log in again as somebody else, so this is ridiculous. But here goes, I guess.
Odd.
On one level he really connected.
On the other he didn't seem to understand why anyone could have any objections to his posts, thus demonstrating that he didn't really get us, or maybe we didn't get him.
It's a shame he's cut himself off entirely.
Also odd that he asked for a perma-ban when he hasn't been around for a while.
If he comes back to read I wish him luck anyway.
The only thing I can think of, is he's concerned about someone else logging in as him. That's a stretch, but it's all I got. :confused:
He'll be back. As someone else. He had a history of that, no?
Maybe because Big Sarge posted a death metal thread and got a lot of responses, while he never did? He'd mentioned before how this place sometimes made him too mad for his own good.
I thought banning was based on IP address; wouldn't that preclude logging in under a new account? I mean, I know about DHCP, but I thought that was still always within a narrow range of numbers.
Stop me before I post again???
Yeah, I agree with foot... it's a padlock on the fridge.
Isn't there a 12 step program to help people stop going to the Cellar?
(he's just pissed because he wants to change his user name again and UT said "no more". [COLOR="lightblue"][COLOR="LemonChiffon"]Unfortunately,[/COLOR][/COLOR] He will be back.)
actually he left cuz we think he's a pedophile. i have proof.
Umm, you have proof that he left cause we think he's a pedophile, or you have proof he's a pedophile. Which one?
Thats too bad - I thought he was coming around too. Oh well if thats what he wants then why doesn't he just not post instead of being banned - I don't get it. Unless someone else, using his address, asked for the banning. Perhaps it wasn't really him. I've had my email address "stolen."
Judging by the many "Message undeliverable" in my Junk folder the other week, I've had my email address stolen too. But I expect it was by a spambot, rather than someone out to wreak havoc in my online social life.
I'd like to think people would realise fout or five posts in that someone was using my log-in.
Isn't there a 12 step program to help people stop going to the Cellar?
The Cellar is your 12-step program.
He needs an enema.
With friends like us, who needs enemas?
Eh Drax, we hardly knew ye.
actually he left cuz we think he's a pedophile. i have proof.
Really? I smell bullshit. Because if your statement is *true*, he has committed a felony.
Section 2252A(a)(3)(B) generally prohibits offers to provide and requests to obtain child pornography. It targets not the underlying material, but the collateral speech introducing such material into the child-pornography distribution network.
Cite.
...the statute does not penalize the mens rea of the speaker, but instead criminalizes the speaker based on the mens rea of the audience. Under the statute, what matters is not the speaker’s intent, but instead the belief or speculation of his or her audience as to what the speaker seeks to sell, buy or barter.
Cite. Emphasis mine.
Child pornography is a vile crime, but I disagree with the SCOTUS' decision that I can be found guilty of a crime for which no other evidence exists, save the opinion of another person.
LJ doesn't have proof that Drax is a pedophile. He has proof that we think he's a pedophile.
I thought he had proof that Drax thinks that we think that he is a pedophile.
LJ doesn't have proof that Drax is a pedophile. He has proof that we think he's a pedophile.
'tchyeah. That's what I'm talking about. If you read the decision,
The statute subjects to criminal punishment any person who “knowingly … advertises, promotes, distributes, or solicits … any material or purported material in a manner that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to believe, that the material or purported material is, or contains - (i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or (ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.” 18 U.S.C. § 2252(a)(3)(B)
you'll see that there doesn't need to be any actual child pornography. A person is subject to criminal prosecution merely by "causing another to believe" that such material exists.
So, the remarks made by lumberjim are a very serious allegation, indeed, they amount to a criminal accusation. This is practically indistinguishable from what I've read about witch trials.
To be fair, the SCOTUS decision I'm referring to doesn't talk about pedophilia. Only about child pornograpy.
Did anyone but you mention child porn here V? What the hell are you on about???
LJ has proof that drax thinks that "we" (Teh Cellar) think he's a pedophile, and that is likely why he left. Shawnee was closest without going over...
"What the hell am I on about???"
Yeah... I clarified that in post #26, just before post #27.
The rest of your post I'll take a pass on, thanks.
you two knock it off. if i have to pull this car over, i swear...
No, I now think that LJ has proof that Drax left because he thinks we think he's a pedophile.
Yeah, to sum up:
It's not that LJ has proof Drax is a pedophile
It's not that LJ has proof that we think Drax is a pedophile
It's not that LJ has proof that Drax thinks we think Drax is a pedophile
It's that LJ has proof that Drax left BECAUSE Drax thinks we think Drax is a pedophile.
Whoah, LJ, what's this proof?
Sure, steal my Showcase Showdown.
Yep, I think that's it, UT.
actually he left cuz we think he's a pedophile. i have proof.
Or: He left, because we think X. I have proof.
That he left isn't in dispute, thus doesn't need to be proven or disproven.
What "we think" can't be "proven" because it isn't a concrete attribute.
The actual subject of the sentence is
why he left--stated as
he left because.
"I have proof" ...of what? Of
why he left. I have proof he left because we think X.
Obvioulsy he doesn't know what we think, but the substitue when determining his motivations would be
what he thinks we think. We can't know what he thinks, unless we have a statement by him as confirmation, thus proof of what he thinks about what we think, i.e. why he left. Simple.
I get all warm and fuzzy inside when you apply your Critical Thinking skills, Flint.
Hey, have you noticed CT guy and Draz never posted at the same time? Coincidence? I think not.
hey flint? coberst is calling.
co-burst wishes he/she/it was me
Hey, have you noticed CT guy and Draz never posted at the same time? Coincidence? I think not.
No, but i have noticed that april never posted at the same time as marich*ko. and marich*ko never posted at the same time as rk**rage. and rk**rage never posts at the same time as flint! there is only one possible explanation. Flint is ghey.
If I've told you once, I've told you 123 times: NO I will not make out with you!
No, I now think that LJ has proof that Drax left because he thinks we think he's a pedophile.
Yeah, to sum up:
It's not that LJ has proof Drax is a pedophile
It's not that LJ has proof that we think Drax is a pedophile
It's not that LJ has proof that Drax thinks we think Drax is a pedophile
It's that LJ has proof that Drax left BECAUSE Drax thinks we think Drax is a pedophile.
Whoah, LJ, what's this proof?
remember when his name was datalyss for a minute?
here it is not a rick roll, btw
Bad boards I've been on
Offtopic.com - The most active board on the web, but the worst, especially toward fat people.
The Cellar - They think I'm a pedophile.
VampYrezKave - VampYre has gone wild with his bannings. I've been banned 3 times already, and he basically bans anyone he does not like. Further, after he bans you, he pathetically attempts to get his members to spam you or prank call you by publicly posting your e-dress & phone number.
I wish I was cool enough to post on a site called VampYrezKave.
just be be
100% about it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cock 
drax?
Yeah! What of it, Dick?!
Comments on this post Cock you should change your name soon
I'm Cock, btw.
My tears, they are a fallin' for teh plight of the Drax.
Draz asked for it. I did try to be nice to him, to goof around with him, asked where he'd been. He is a drama queen. I know this, because I am one, too. ;)
so, bigV, should I turn myself in, or do you think i'm ok?
so, bigV, should I turn myself in, or do you think i'm ok?
You're a punk sometimes, but you're ok lj.
I don't see anything illegal in your posts (IMHO, IANAL, YMMV, DETYS, etc, etc). Drax might burn, though.
My original point was that a statement like yours, made in earnest, is sufficient to make a person subject to criminal prosecution, and I think that's wrong.
yes, sexual harrassment works the same way. guilty until proven innocent.
two men enter, one man leaves!
oh, no...that's Thunderdome.
Drax requested "spermbanning"
Now I really don't get it.
Drax runs us down as a bad site.
But the site he runs us down on is called Troll Kingdom?
Suggesting that he was only messing wit our minds and after our attention all along?
But he got it. We fed him. So why the perma ban request?
If he disliked us enough to slag us off on other boards (but thanks because we don't need a Troll Kingdom invasion surely) then why isn't here bugging the hell out of us for funsies.
But if he was genuine.... this is where my head explodes.
Do you think someone spilled coffee on a couple of pages of his How To Win Friends and Influence People? He was doing it wrong.
OMG - is it like a Groundhog Day scenario. ALL new posters have been Drax. He's trying them out one by one to see if they work. He's currently failing with Colbrest.
I confess....I'm drax. and Sundae Girl.....and especially Undertoad.
did he give you a safe word?
So that when he comes back begging to be let in, you'll know when to grant his request, and when not to?
i find it amusing that LJ has nearly 500 posts this year at troll kinkdom.
:blush: I've been slumming
What I don't get is, why? Why go for a ban when he is perfectly capable of simply deleting the bookmark and staying away.
After all, we've lost users before. They just vanish one day. Witness Dagney. Gone, no banning required.
What? Does he not trust himself to stay away? huh?
Why? Just look at all the attention he's getting. Probably the most evaaaah!
What I don't get is, why? Why go for a ban when he is perfectly capable of simply deleting the bookmark and staying away.
After all, we've lost users before. They just vanish one day. Witness Dagney. Gone, no banning required.
What? Does he not trust himself to stay away? huh?
Are you kidding? I've been trying to leave the Cellar since the week before I joined.
I didn't IP ban him or anything. If he wants another try he can always sign up for another account. He can even use "datalyss".
Michael Corleone: Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
An arsehole leaves as Drax...
An arsehole returns as Datalyss
(not very successful paraphrase of an AA saying which means the same as CG's post)
What I don't get is, why? Why go for a ban when he is perfectly capable of simply deleting the bookmark and staying away.
Well with the court case coming up...
some people really do get addicted to the Internet. Don't know what Drax's problem may be, but I think there may be cases where requesting to be banned may be beneficial and necessary. Who are we to say?
Might as well respect his wishes.
court case?
Don't we all believe, without foundation, there is a court case?
Drax had earlier requested I completely delete his account -- in November 2007. I ignored this request. A few weeks later he restarted posting.
Don't we all believe, without foundation, there is a court case?
Oddly enough, yes.
If Griff writes it, I believe it.
I guess the only question is, how shall I misuse this new found power?
If Griff writes it, I believe it.
If Griff writes it, I believe, he believes it. :thumb:
You, my friend, are on report.
