The lack of the Irish
It occurs to me, in the many English-language forums I have participated in, that there are loads of people from the States, from Australia, from Britain, even Scotland, even from Asia and Europe . . . but almost never from Ireland. In fact, I don't recall any. I wonder why? They speak English there, don't they? Are there any Cellardwellars from Ireland?
They're busy drinking in the pubs, tending sheep and making love.
oh and I am of Irish decent....and native american. There isn't any of those either. I can't tell you where they're drinking or if they have anything do do with sheep since they built the casino. ( joke)
I am not as dumb as I sound....well maybe a little but in a spry way.
The Irish can't make it online, because they are too busy talking the hind leg off a donkey somewhere. You can't stop them once they've started.
(Yes, I am from an Irish family, so I am allowed to say that).
Seriously - it has a much smaller population than the UK - approx 4 million vs 60 million - so maybe it's just a numbers thing.
I'm Irish and I think Sundae is, too.
The Irish can't make it online, because they are too busy talking the hind leg off a donkey somewhere. You can't stop them once they've started.
(Yes, I am from an Irish family, so I am allowed to say that).
Seriously - it has a much smaller population than the UK - approx 4 million vs 60 million - so maybe it's just a numbers thing.
That is our family's favorite expression. We often describe such people as "donkey surgeons" or refer to the large number of legless donkeys in their wake.
Should also mention I'm about as Irish as the day is long.
What about kiwis? We've got a buncha aussies, where're all the new zealanders?
Just checked and NZ has approx the same population as Eire.
There you go then, under say 5 million and they slip under the radar (note, not the Radar).
We did have a Kiwi, once.
Yeah, did ZenGum move out of Japan or something? Haven't heard anything from him lately.
Kiwi's are cool people. Well so are the Aussie's for that matter.
That's true enough, but I can't hear the term "kiwi" without thinking of small, green fruits. Sorry.
Irish, Scottish, and French here. Yes this explains a lot.
;)
NINA?
not talking about descent, 'tho I was thinking about it when this topic occurred to me (Scots-Irish here). Just--seems odd. I don't think I've ever encountered anyone from Ireland on a forum, but I have from New Zealand.
Ya know why their aren't any Irish on here? They're at the pubs.
I'm descended from English Quakers, though they lived in Tiperary County before they came to the colonies.
Another thing I've noticed - and others have certainly mentioned over the years - we are an almost exclusively white forum. Only three exceptions I know of among regular posters and a few more mixed heritage and most of those not in the previous generation.
Why is that? Do we exclusively talk about stuff white people like (
breakfast,
wine,
living by water).
It's odd. A group of white people round the world found the same site, yet no black, Asian or hispanic people did.
Everyone here is black... text, with an off-white (#F1F1ED) background.
How things change:
Me: "I wish we could find a black lead singer."
My guitarist: "Yeah I know... we'd have it made, black guys are utterly cool right now."
Green with envy.
In the pink.
White as a ghost
Blue.
Yellow.
Purple with rage.
Fresh is Asian.
Yes, but he's white Asian.
I did say I knew there were exceptions and Fresh was one I had in mind (I've just watched him dancing after all!).
I'm not trying to make an issue out of it, I'm just honestly puzzled that Americans, Brits, Aussies, Nederlanders, etc etc have all come together and yet very few of the ethnically diverse elements of these nations seem to have joined us.
I'm just honestly puzzled that Americans, Brits, Aussies, Nederlanders, etc etc have all come together and yet very few of the ethnically diverse elements of these nations seem to have joined us.
I think it's pretty obvious. We aren't very cool. Look at us: 90% NERDS.
(not me. I'm cool.)
I'm black, yo.
prove it! we wanna see pics!
I'm all for diversity. Whenever I see a black person here in El Paso, I wanna just run over to them and give them a hug!
'Course, they're almost all soldiers, so that's probably not a good idea. :D
*drunk*
ya know why else them irish ain't here?
they drunk!!!!!! the good fer nuthin'....have a lay-down my asss...shamrock....blurb, blurb...
*drunk*
[also, they are in Irish Catholic Heaven where they are heavin' Jaysus on a big blanket o' clover and...well, Jaysus is LUVIN' it! and says the fook with th' rest o' ye!]
It occurs to me, in the many English-language forums I have participated in, that there are loads of people from the States, from Australia, from Britain, even Scotland, even from Asia and Europe . . . but almost never from Ireland. In fact, I don't recall any. I wonder why? They speak English there, don't they? Are there any Cellardwellars from Ireland?
[Ghostbusters]
WE GOT ONE!!![/Ghostbusters]
They're busy drinking in the pubs, tending sheep and making love.
oh and I am of Irish decent....and native american. There isn't any of those either. I can't tell you where they're drinking or if they have anything do do with sheep since they built the casino. ( joke)
I am not as dumb as I sound....well maybe a little but in a spry way.
Ahem. ;)
Only 1/16...legal enough but not like I know the way of the people or anything. :)
[Ghostbusters]WE GOT ONE!!![/Ghostbusters]
There you go! We haz an Irish muffin!
Hmmm. English muffins have 'nooks and crannies' -- what do Irish muffins have? :yum:
Hmmm. English muffins have 'nooks and crannies' -- what do Irish muffins have? :yum:
Leprechauns and liver disease?
It occurs to me, in the many English-language forums I have participated in, that there are loads of people from the States, from Australia, from Britain, even Scotland, even from Asia and Europe . . . but almost never from Ireland. In fact, I don't recall any. I wonder why? They speak English there, don't they? Are there any Cellardwellars from Ireland?
They're at work or in the pub. You won't hear from them until they hook up computers with internet access in all the pubs. ;)
UG, do you have me on ignore?
(Yes, I know, asking that question doesn't make sense, but ...) I've been back in Australia for a year now.
We did have a kiwi here for a while, El Bandito I think he was, but we made him go to the doctor when he described recurring symptoms that were very likely a heart attack. I'm a little concerned that he has never been back. I hope he is okay.
I've got plenty of Irish ancestry, and good servings of German, Scottish and English, which is pretty much the classic pre-1950 Australian mix.
jinx! ;)
no, she's russian.
I'm irish though...on both sides.
I think the reason you don't see them is because the Irish are too fucking cheap or poor to buy computers.
I'm descended from English Quakers
me too! the Janney side of the family has a thorough genealogy set down
I'm all for diversity. Whenever I see a black person here in El Paso, I wanna just run over to them and give them a hug!
Why, because they're not Mexicans?
because there are so few of them; I'm happy to see them.
UG, do you have me on ignore?
(Yes, I know, asking that question doesn't make sense, but ...) I've been back in Australia for a year now.
Nope. Just never saw you spun into any threads I was reading, hardly. Lost track, more like. Note the date of posting.
I've got plenty of Irish ancestry, and good servings of German, Scottish and English, which is pretty much the classic pre-1950 Australian mix.
Yep, that describes my family tree pretty much too...except we don't have any German in us that I know of. Just lots of Irish, English and scottish with a dabbling of Welsh for good measure.
Green with envy.
In the pink.
White as a ghost
Blue.
Yellow.
Purple with rage.
blue in the face
yellow belly
k im only new to the cellar and im likn it so far......
.......oh and im irish,..........
we dont drink in the pubs all day....they dont open til noon!we aint on forums like this often because, (yes the internet is shit here, but thats not why,we drink alot but thats not why either)
.........we talk about anything we want in the pubs (you know the poor old donkey and all that) dont need the internet for or random thoughts.
me im a no good student so im on the cellar because the pub isnt open yet and i dont wana go to class
and one more thing......
if you qualify to hold an irish passport good for you, your irish, otherwise sod off your not irish its just wishful thinking.
if you qualify to hold an irish passport good for you, your irish, otherwise sod off your not irish its just wishful thinking.
:)
The Americans see it differently, bless 'em.
I'm beginning to understand it now. If someone with an American accent tells you they are half Scottish and half Norwegian, just smile and tell them it's interesting. They'll never have been to either country and likely even their grandparents haven't. And if they do, they'll complain about the shower pressure, the size of the cars and the price of the food anyway ;)
(All said with love, you understand)
so...I'm Native American? ;)
Don't let the stereotype get you down, muffin. We're just playin'. Glad you like it here----we're really not so bad. (well, yes we are, but I'm trying to put a good spin on it)
Anyway---what kind of no good student are you? what year? what major?
Huh. Indians (in India) are always really happy to claim me as one of their own. And get a little pissed off at me when I tell them I'm not Indian, I'm an American.
YMMV.
they'll complain about the shower pressure
Don't get me started again.
ah i dont mind the sterotype i was takin the piss, look at 'mobster' italians, 'snobby' french, 'unfun' germans, theres loads. its hilarious everyone wants in on the irish sterotype, honestly makes me feel privaliged though
in ireland we do course not majors you want to be a nurse take a nursing course wana be a lawyer do a law course wana do 'Majors' in collage (an arts degree we call it) you get to work in mcdonalds see the way irish education works? ha
im doin biomedical engineering, or conversation killer as i call it!! ha!! ;)
We appreciate your gift of U2 to the world
We expect however that not all Irish are as full of themselves as Bono. It would make for a difficult country.
...look at... 'snobby' french...
Yeah but the french really
are snobby!!
;)
yeah, we loves us some Irish in this country. Esp. on :stpaddy:
its tru
poor old bono, once legend now a weeee bit of an embarasment needs to stick to the music tho, plus weve given the world more than that....aran woolie jumpers, traditional 'diddle-e-i' music, snow patrol(half of em i think) potatoes, priests loads and loads of priests, the titanic (however brief), we populated america and australia wen no one else would do it, again goin back to the irish ancestory debate. sadly we didnt give the world st.patricks day, wel not in its current form any way i think it was in chicago they first had a parade,, ooh we gave hollywood botox!!
Yeah, St. Paddy's is an abomination over here. we lOVE it! :)
If only the Irish had capital letters.
HEY!!!!
...... at least the spelling is ok, its not great but its ok!
We expect however that not all Irish are as full of themselves as Bono. It would make for a difficult country.
One of my cow orkers friend's father's sells him fish.
And refuses to sell to Gordon Ramsay.
Those are probably my most interesting degrees of separation.
Potatos came to Europe from "The New World" in 1536. ;)
:D
If only the Irish had capital letters.
Oh good, HLJ and Merc said something before me!
I said something similar on the Canada thread.
Said with absolutely the best intentions - and no malice meant.
Bruce, the New World grew the potato, but it took the British Isles to really bring it out of its skin... er, shell. If it weren't for us. people would still be trying to smoke it ;)
no, she's russian.
I'm irish though...on both sides.
I think the reason you don't see them is because the Irish are too fucking cheap or poor to buy computers.
I'm also Irish on both sides, and you may have had a point a few years ago, but in the last 5-6 years the economy in Ireland has taken off. They have a lot of high tech jobs. A lot of call center stuff from America goes there.
They're working, or at the pub for the most part. It used to be that half of Ireland was on the dole and the other half was working to pay for it.
Potatos came to Europe from "The New World" in 1536. ;)
I'm no Dan Quayle but the word "Potatoes" has a letter E. Plural has a letter E, singular does not.
potato/potatoes
tomato/tomatoes
toe/toes
dingo/dingoes ???
It used to be that half of Ireland was on the dole and the other half was working to pay for it.
Define "used to be"! The dole is a comparatively recent phenomenon. My Grandad's father moved to England to be where the work is. The choice then was move or starve, hence the mass exodus through the 20th century. The nuns at my school were Irish, and many's the tale I heard about why we were wicked wasteful children to say we didn't like school dinners when Irish children would jump at the chance of them (okay, the nuns were pretty old by then). Hardly living off the fat of the land.
And even when the dole was introduced, it was not a national trait that half the country just couldn't be arsed to work.
My best friend from the age of 13+ was Irish, and her Da moved the family to England to get a better life for them. I had two work colleagues with Irish mums - one who escaped the Troubles at the last second with a mob at her heels because she was pregnant to a Catholic (they reunited in England) and another who was shipped to Manchester by her family at the age of 14 to get a job in a factory.
I know a fair amount of Irish history. Being a typical mongrel, I'm too English to take the Fuck the English stance that you do, but I'm happy enough to stand up for the country some of my ancestors grew up in.
Cite. Please.
Cite. Please.
The Commitments.
potato/potatoes
tomato/tomatoes
toe/toes
dingo/dingoes ???
oh noes!
If only the Irish had capital letters.
St Patrick drove them out.
I used to drape a rubber snake around my neck on St Paddy's day. Most people were like "wtf?"
Define "used to be"! The dole is a comparatively recent phenomenon. My Grandad's father moved to England to be where the work is. The choice then was move or starve, hence the mass exodus through the 20th century. The nuns at my school were Irish, and many's the tale I heard about why we were wicked wasteful children to say we didn't like school dinners when Irish children would jump at the chance of them (okay, the nuns were pretty old by then). Hardly living off the fat of the land.
And even when the dole was introduced, it was not a national trait that half the country just couldn't be arsed to work.
My best friend from the age of 13+ was Irish, and her Da moved the family to England to get a better life for them. I had two work colleagues with Irish mums - one who escaped the Troubles at the last second with a mob at her heels because she was pregnant to a Catholic (they reunited in England) and another who was shipped to Manchester by her family at the age of 14 to get a job in a factory.
I know a fair amount of Irish history. Being a typical mongrel, I'm too English to take the Fuck the English stance that you do, but I'm happy enough to stand up for the country some of my ancestors grew up in.
Cite. Please.
I'm talking about the 80s, 90s, through about 2002 not 80 to a hundred years ago and nothing I've said is derogatory towards Ireland. That's just the way it was.