Today is International Non-sequitur Day
If you hadn't noticed. Let's do it up right folks, I'll start you out:
Some cars have carburetors that don't work very well.
I know. Green is my favorite color.
Ok....go!
Wombats' brains have shrunk over the last two million years but their skulls haven't.
How can you have a non-sequitur in a non-sequitur thread?
and now, for something completely different.
or is that a segue?
Because it's organically grown, you fools.
What do you mean by 'International'?
No non about it, it was a real sequitur.
A big one... with bloodshot eyes and hairy knuckles.
I killed it.
Chocolate catcher's mitt.
So I seem huge, squishy, and sinuously intertwined?
I don't get it...I thought the bee was suppose to pollinate itself...and what is with the traveling wine bonzai?
fuck! where is my sword?
I think rich had it
in the NSFWWTF thread which goes to show he
was trying to type a letter
this is just an anti association thread.
Mrs McGillacuddy makes the cutest Santa Claus dolls out of empty Clorox bottles.
on the counter
by your keys
is a book of numbers
and your "remedies"
one of each
will surely screen out the sorrow
but where are you
tommorrow?
a band supposedly named after a dildo
Dave Matthews Band?
(steely dan - black cow. I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.)
Hey, you, stop with the sequiturs already.
Oh damn. :smack:
ahh, ahh, I like sushi but I don't like natto.
I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.
Really?! I'm surprised to hear that. I consider the drum performances on Aja to be pretty much the gold standard. Playing exactly what is needed, with no unnecessary notes, and laying down a big, comfortable groove cushion for the band. Jim Keltner's ultra-minimalistic drum fills on Josie! Bernard Purdie's "Purdie Shuffle" on Home At Last! Rick Marotta on Peg, my God - another masterpiece! Ed Greene's famous "dagga-doo" fill on I Got The News. We're talking about an album that's like the Bible of sophisticated, mature drumming in popular music. I mean, yeah, it's subdued, that's the whole point! Playing a smooth, solid part. Submitting yourself and your body to the purposes of the almighty groove.
I'll have to revisit my thought - it was a thought I had 25 years ago and it might be tempered by maturity and understanding.
When I was younger I thought only Prog and Fusion were where it's at, because they played so many of notes and so many odd time signatures. I was so incredibly wrong. I can't describe the joy I've learned to get out of playing almost nothing. My job as a drummer is a support role, and that's it.
But in the case of Steely Dan, there's all that fusion in it, but all the hard work is designated to the other instruments. The most complicated chord structures you'd ever want! And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?
And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?
I would ask the question in a different way: Why did they only write one song for the album where it was
appropriate for the drummer
to go off?
But the answer may have something more to do with their tendency to bring in a bunch of different session players, let them do their own thing, and pick the guy that fits the song the best. They didn't know in advance that Home At Last would have a Purdie Shuffle, but when you hear it that way, you know that's it.
Aja may simply be the product of Gadd doing his Gadd thing, creating these mind-blowing parts that leave you standing there with your jaw on the floor, while, for him, it's just another day at the office. Of course, the song
was written with these big wide-open spaces in it, but, who would have ever thought that Gadd would have played what he did? Maybe they knew they had some space to fill, so they just unleashed Gadd on it. Most of the other guys, when there was space, just left the space, and that sound good too. I don't know, dude. That's a good question.
do you like
dags?
ps... steely dan is the worst.
Re-listening -- you are right. Where Gadd goes off, the rest of the crew is usually honking out one chord. Everything else is complicated, so if the drums are complicated it's gonna be too busy.
If you play drums for Steely Dan, you have to master the ping tang ting of gently touching cymbals.
Holy crap, I keep getting distracted by Becker's amazing bass parts.
My favorite band: Steely Dan
Favorite album from that band: Aja
Favorite song on that album: Black Cow
Luckily, non-sequitur day has ended. :)
the guy that sang Ghostbusters is better than Steely Dan
Yeah, he's so good that his only hit was a rip-off of Huey Lewis that he got sued for.
For those how aren't aware of this: Steely Dan isn't a "band" - it's two musician/arrangers who gathered together the greatest combination(s) of first-call studio players ever assembled, picking and choosing for each track who the line-up would be, down to bringing in dozens of guys in to track just the right guitar solo for any given song.
If one were to have any interest in quality musicianship, this band should be an encyclopedia of technique.
if liking steely dan is on your deal breaker list, then yes. we cannot.
Yep, Flint: Becker and Fagan. I did know that, but also got some good schooling about them from my ex, the piano player.
For those how aren't aware of this: Steely Dan isn't a "band" - it's two musician/arrangers who gathered together the greatest combination(s) of first-call studio players ever assembled, picking and choosing for each track who the line-up would be, down to bringing in dozens of guys in to track just the right guitar solo for any given song.
If one were to have any interest in quality musicianship, this band should be an encyclopedia of technique.
yeah, yeah. an orchestral approach to rock music. guess what? that doesn't blow my skirt up even a little bit.
In fact.....'the White Stripes' is all I have to say in reply. you think about that, mister. think long and hard.
I didn't say it was an orchestral approach; but since you mention it, what, you don't like Dark Side of the Moon? For instance. There's never been any music that you liked that was planned out in any way? As far as you know, you've been duped hundreds of times by bands that try to appear "gritty" and spontaneous.
I don't know enough about the White Stripes to have any thoughts about them. I think I heard that one song they did a while back, on the jukebox in a bar, or something. And, there was that one song on the opening credits to Napoleon Dynamite. As far as I know, you have the one dude playing blues chords while the chick he's doing does a Ringo impersonation, right?
LJ: Hey aren't you that guy Picasso? That guy who paints?
Picasso: Yes, I am he.
LJ: Oh wow! I like paintings... you know my favorites? Those paintings of the little waif girls with the great big eyes. You know, the ones they used to have at motels? They're cute, but at the same time they're kind of sad, you know?
UT: excuse me, fellas, I need to get past you here....I wet the bed again, and i dont want my piss sheets to get on you.....stand back just a bit if you would? thanks.
And, by the way, the reason you learn more technique is so you can be more expressive. If a musical situation calls for a certain thing, and you don't have that skill, then the expression suffers because you didn't do your homework.
Do highly technical players tend to get that "polished" sound? Sometimes, but isn't that just the sound of them knowing what the fuck they're doing?
Not that there isn't some quaint charm to listening to some sweaty dude play his three favorite riffs/only three riffs he knows, in every situation, but seriously, how many times do you need to hear him express that same old "feeling" - and it isn't that he doesn't have more nuanced emotions inside him, it's just that he doesn't have the technical skills necessary to express them. And he lashes out at more technical music in a "sour grapes" fashion.
or perhaps he has the skills, but sees that the message he's trying to convey has no need of them? or maybe he doesn't have need of that skill because he is able to express his feeling with his 3 riffs. why does it have to be sour grapes? maybe the super technical guy that knows all the chords and techniques is covering his lack of soul by barraging the listener with piles of intertwined tripe? dja ever think of that? huh, white boi?
the more concerned you are with using all of your tricks and skills, the less concerned you can be with communicating the emotion in a piece of music. there are those 'sweaty guys' and 'polished guys' out there. i was just saying that i tend to like loud drums, and heavy bass, and powerful guitar. lyrics can be jibberish as long as the sound of the voice is good, and it fits with the song.
that said, i DO like some intricate stuff....like Bach....etc....but USUALLY, given my druthers.....let's get the Led out!
[QUOTE=Flint;429690]Yeah, he's so good that his only hit was a rip-off of Huey Lewis that he got sued for.
QUOTE]
American Psycho liked Huey Lewis, but Huey Lewis didn't like American Psycho........Imagine that, Huey Lewis saying that a movie soundtrack isn't good enough for them...after such hits as "I want a new drug"...... I guess they might be as sensitive as me...I don't want them to make a come-back either....:) linky:
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/hueylewisandthenews/articles/story/5925354/huey_lewis_sparks_american_psycho_soundtrack_recall
(Proving once and for all that you can't be friends just because of similar music taste :))
How can you say Led is not intricate? Pshaw.
Dan does Dan very well. Led does Led.
Its a matter of good creative choice. Like a great chef.
There's nothing worse than a guy with blazing chops, who has no subtlety, and cranks out impossible patterns at 90mph, with no regard for musical expression. Oh, wait, yes there is, it's the guy with no chops, who drones on about his self-centered feelings in one song after another that sounds exactly the same.
Neither type of player is desirable. But, given the choice, I will say that the well-practiced guy can do what the other guy does, if the situation calls for it; whereas the other guy, just can't do much at all, except masturbate. No matter what the situation calls for, he will make it all sound the same, because that's all he can do.
Now if he has brilliant lyrics, he might be a Bob Dylan. Whereas the other guy just might someday be an Yngwie Malmsteen. It takes all types.
The point is to be well-centered, and have a big toolbox.
Music is very important to most cultures, so go have a hamburger.
How can you say Led is not intricate? Pshaw.
Dan does Dan very well. Led does Led.
Its a matter of good creative choice. Like a great chef.
in the early days of zeppelin, jimmy page and robert were in total control of the band, and the music was quite strong and simple......in later years, when robert was struggling with various personal tragedies, and jimmy was hooked on smack, john paul jones took charge of the arangements....they became much more complex and diverse. i like both, but prefer the early days.
I will have a lumburger.
I typically prefer the early days of Zep, as well as just about anybody else. Although Physical Graffiti is one of my desert album albums.
ORLY???
Hey look, it's lumbergjim.
When you talk about music, it's important to scratch your arse because someone could be looking.
(I know what can distract both of you! give you both a new target!)
So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?
There's nothing worse than a guy with blazing chops, who has no subtlety, and cranks out impossible patterns at 90mph, with no regard for musical expression.
Like that dude from Blues Traveler that just wanks and wanks?
Oh, wait, yes there is, it's the guy with no chops, who drones on about his self-centered feelings in one song after another that sounds exactly the same.
Gonna get in trouble here....ya mean like the Grateful Dead?
Like that dude from Blues Traveler that just wanks and wanks?
How about Kenny G...whose musical stylings consist of playing the scales. :greenface
Gonna get in trouble here....ya mean like the Grateful Dead?
YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE HERE, MISSY!
I'm alternating between heavy and light
Between meaning and nonsense
And having a drink
I have counted all the lines on the road
Between here and Los Angeles
That pass straight below
And I'm dreaming of a light, and it comes from your head
'Cause you move just like you're a train
Not like a car, no, no, it would never be the same
And the light from your eyes is like the light from a cake
I was thinking of a cake
To lift off this burden
To lighten this weight
Wind, sweet little cake dervishes
From the head of a pin
We are sleeping like angels
And living like devils again
And I am waiting for the heaviness in the air to break
And reveal some small, irrelevant truth
'Cause we move like we are suspended in amber
And the light from your eyes spills from the moon
(I know what can distract both of you! give you both a new target!)
So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?
Uhm, lets try this again.
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So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?[/SIZE]
[SIZE="6"]I've never fucking heard of it.[/SIZE]
Uhm, lets try this again.
[SIZE="5"]So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?[/SIZE]
Sometimes the decision not to answer is all the answer you need.
But seriously, give us an example of what "post-rock" is since most labels are completely worthless.
Post Punk is better?
Oh wait, isn't post rock and post punk the same damned thing as "rock" and "punk"? Except it's cool enough to listen to because it has a new snazzy genre title attached that is completely unneccessary?
Post-rock is a music genre characterized by the use of musical instruments commonly associated with rock music, but utilizing rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions that are not found in rock tradition. Simply put, it is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes. Practitioners of the genre's style typically produce instrumental music.[1][2][3]
As with many musical genres, the term is arguably inadequate as a concise descriptor: for example, Don Caballero and Mogwai were among the more prominent bands of the 1990s described as post rock, but the two bands' music has very little in common besides the fact that they are both largely instrumental. As such, the term has been the subject of backlash from listeners and artists alike.[4]
Although firmly rooted in the indie scene of the 1980s and '90s, post-rock's style bears little resemblance musically to that of indie rock.[3][2]
IT's Rock mmmmkay? Non-traditional rock is still rock. K kiddies? There is no post about it....
Godspeed You! Black Emperor, for example, is vastly different from say, The White Stripes. Even if you say GY!BE is rock, it's still post-rock, because it's certainly not the same thing as other types of rock. You can't claim there's no such thing as grunge, because 'grunge is still rock', any more than you can claim that post-rock isn't post-rock.
Post-Punk has nothing to do with Post-Rock. Post-Punk was a snappy thing to call stuff when new-wave wasn't snappy enough, or whatever.
Post-Rock sounds, feels, plays, and down to its very core is different from a LOT of what's out there. It is very definitely its own style, whether or not that style is still part of 'rock' as a whole.
Simply put, it is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes.
Oh, yeah. I'd like to see that official list of rock purposes, and rock instrumentation for that matter.
So, I guess we're s'posed to like it?
Post-Rock sounds, feels, plays, and down to its very core is different from a LOT of what's out there.
How is it different? For instance, Prog-Rock utilizes odd time signatures, lengthy song structures with multiple themes, virtuoso musicianship etc.
Is there a general description of what Post-Rock
is? Or, if it's simply
not something, is there a general description of what it's
not?Uhm, lets try this again.
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it's the boring part of Kansas
oh, wait...
we're into fusion
Is there a general description of what Post-Rock is? Or, if it's simply not something, is there a general description of what it's not?
It's a lot easier to define post-rock by band than by actual definition, but...
post-rock is a mostly-instrumental style, usually involving very long song structure with multiple movements, and heavy use of almost-minimalist intro suites moving into very heavily orchestrated crescendos, often repeating this pattern across an album or even within one song.
Most post-rock bands utilize the ubiquitous guitar-bass-drum-keyboard combination, with added string or horn sections to create much deeper melodic, harmonic, and rhythmic development, and post-rock bands can often field even a dozen members onstage, though more minimalist post-rock groups usually have no more than five.
But it's a lot easier to explain by saying Slint, Mogwai, and Broken Social Scene on the less-post-rock end of the spectrum, with GY!BE, Sigur Ros, Explosions In The Sky, and A Silver Mt. Zion on the more post-rock end.
How is it different? For instance, Prog-Rock utilizes odd time signatures, lengthy song structures with multiple themes, virtuoso musicianship etc.
Is there a general description of what Post-Rock is? Or, if it's simply not something, is there a general description of what it's not?
stop trying to have an intelligent conversation. .....you conceited music snobfuck.
Ruh roh...lumberjim's gonna buttƒuck you in the toooba.
stop trying to have an intelligent conversation. .....you conceited music snobfuck.
Oh, I'm sorry, I just thought that words should mean something, so that when people talk, they're talking about something.
...post-rock is a mostly-instrumental style, usually involving very long song structure with multiple movements, and heavy use of almost-minimalist intro suites moving into very heavily orchestrated crescendos, often repeating this pattern across an album or even within one song. Most post-rock bands utilize the ubiquitous guitar-bass-drum-keyboard combination, with added string or horn sections to create much deeper melodic, harmonic, and rhythmic development, and post-rock bands can often field even a dozen members onstage, though more minimalist post-rock groups usually have no more than five.
Oh, now I get it. It's Pink Floyd. I thought that was Art Rock. Or Space Rock. Or Avant Garde. Or whatever.
I thought it was mini-Bach.
Oh, now I get it. It's Pink Floyd. I thought that was Art Rock. Or Space Rock. Or Avant Garde. Or whatever.
Not quiiiiite. Think, Atom Heart Mother, but slower, a lot more chill, a lot more laid-back, and a lot less pretentious.
that whole sentence is an oxymoron
Ibram, where would you put Stereolab in this Post-Rock spectrum, or would you? Is that Post-Rock?
I used to collect strange music on AG, when it was an active filetrading site where you could join groups with common interests. I'd have to dig through my stacks of MP3 discs to remember the names of some of the stuff. A song called Carl Sagan or something comes to mind... (Google says For Carl Sagan, by Tarentel) that sounds about right. As I recall... a long, minimalistic guitar sculpture.
I was in a group called Experimental Noise where I found the coolest shit, like RORN. These short, electronic noise constructions. Ever heard that?
These short, electronic noise constructions...
I love this phrase. My life is a short electronic noise construction.
These short, electronic noise constructions. Ever heard that?
It's like this?
(Just the first 40 seconds will do, if'n you hate the show--but the whole thing cracks me up.)
[youtube]yLa8Br569gA[/youtube]
Post-Punk was a snappy thing to call stuff when new-wave wasn't snappy enough, or whatever.
I guess that's what in the hell I am saying about post-rock now
isn't it?
:)
Oh and
Sigur Ros is a self-described band. If you would like to know their genre all you have to do is go to their web-site or myspace....Along with a lot of other bands.
:D
So when theres music grass doesn't work.
That's sort of exactly what I was thinking, ali...sort of.
Well, Today is International Non-sequitur Day, so...cats eat lard.
Exactly, so my fly insurance masters nothing.
unfortunately that's true and apples are better even still.
Now, if only I could remove the shoe cheese before the movie makes chilies.
Chilies are great and then we can go shopping.
has nonsequitor day came again so soon?
so be it.
I'd like to know how many you ate.
I ate five but then it was ok because the door broke.
Well, you know what they say: Lions don't always have the correct answer.
that pinball that cruises around while the song goes one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleeeven tweeelve
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"][COLOR="White"]That's either Sesame Street or Electric Company?[/COLOR][/COLOR]
That's just your opinion. Lewis and Clark had nothing to do with settling Upper Zimbabwe.
So, like... if you give 'em a quick short, sharp shock, they don't do it again. Dig it?
Quiet, Lois. Men are talking.
So, like... if you give 'em a quick short, sharp shock, they don't do it again. Dig it?
I shertainly wash in the right!
'n that geezer was cruisin' for a bruisin'...
Aw, trailer parks can be fun. You get to share your Hamm's with all your neighbors.
Blow into my tuba, Heintz.
so that was how it went because fruit is good for you.
Your car tires are in my peanut butter.
I think peanut butter should be ok.
and you may ask yourself, 'well, how did i get here?'
and the days go by, water flowing under......
So I said if you didn't want it there your shouldn't have bent over in the first place
me chinese, me make joke
me make peepee in your coke
but if you'd like to bend over it'll make seeds
What have the Romans ever done for us?
when romans do anything dogs meow
Won't you pour me a Cuban breeze Gretchen?
(So happy this thread is alive and well!) :)
I will have what he is having
phone quote
hello....
Hold on
<whisper>
Is this about the hookers?
</whisper>
The blue dog flies at midnight.
Why does the porridge bird lay his egg in the air?
more's the pity.
you have no idea how long i've been trying to work that in.
more's the pity
more's the goddamn pity
more's the mother fucking goddamn pity, myron.
If it hadn't been for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.
Well, I saw the whole thing and I have to say it wasn't pretty.
over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder
Well, on a scale from one to ten, I'd have to say yes.
She's got legs. She knows how to use them.
but a giggle when she talks?
He may have space madness, but that's no excuse for space rudeness.
Ahhh my little ice cream bar...
[youtube]vN6NtWw5nmY[/youtube]
I did do the nasty in the past-y.
Verily! And that past-nastification is what shields you from the brains.
How I love to lick your creamy center!
I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!
I'm not arguing that with you. I'M NOT ARGUING THAT WITH YOU. I know he can GET the job, but can he DO the job? I'M NOT ARGUING THAT WITH YOU!
To me my eyeshadow! I would make a vlog entry.
I'm not happy to see the return of Max, so you'd be better off with the patent shoes.
is this a permanent state?
Stop staring at my pranks.
Make up the difference in weight with product.
I...am...*NEVER*...clicking...on...a...link...posted...by...LJ...again.:lame:
That one almost got me fired.
I'm never clicking on any links in the Cellar again.
[COLOR=Silver]With the exception of SteveDallas's random thread picker.[/COLOR]
Hey!
My sister got fired in the WTC on 9/11!!!!!
That sucked. Lumberjim sucks.
i'm not sorry about ur finger
If you thought that was bad, never click on his "shirts" link.
LICK IT!
Don't you mean, "Rick it"? Cock.
i got banned for a week on another forum for that shit.
How long does the water run before you turn it on?
Lumberjim, you utter cock.
What's sad about this one is, I only clicked on the link because I knew you'd done your best rickroll.....I totally asked for it.
And on the other hand, she had a wart.
well done sir. well done.
wobbly toad digits
This works as both a non-sequitur and a tagline.
I would definitely have to say Purple. Or not.