Im not sure if anyone has seen this show or not but it is very good. If you like I guess scary movies this is a very good show to watch.
Also it takes a thief.
Any other shows that people like on Discovery - History - TLC.
I have a friend who runs home every day to watch A Haunting. She says it's pretty scary.
A haunting is awesome. I like the one where this guy dabbles in wichcraft after he finds indian bones. then, every night he hears this bear-like growling and it also tries to strangle him by snapping his covers down. he is also scared to tell anyone, because he doesn't want anyone to live in discomfort, because it was his fault this happened in the first place. one night, he almost gets strangled, and, of course, runs to his mom and tells her everything. she then reads a passage out of the bible and hears the growling noise by a closet door. she puts her ear to the door, and, suddenly, the thing starts strangling her. the guy grabs his bible and hold it to the door. the thing , whatever it was, let go immediatly. they then fled the house and stayed in a boarding house. it was fine for the 1st few nights, but the guy starts to hear the beast again, and, again, almost gets strangled. then, the next day, he seeks for help from the church. the church tells him that whitchcraft isn't real, and it is all in his head. he went to all different churches, and they all said the same thing. he then decides to go home and, after a long time of thinking, decides to fight fire with fire. he will reverse the witchcraft by using witchcraft. he invites a white witch (half witch half christian) to perform it. he makes a pentegram, uninverted, on the ground and circles it in salt. they say a bunch of stuff and blow out the candles. as soon as the candles are blown out, however, a thunderstrom starts. It shows her daughter looking out of the window in her room. all of the sudden, a demonic-like figure jumps up into the window (Scared the shit outta me!). The witchcraft had just made the thing more powerful. He is talking to a girl, and she tells him of a hair stylist that is known for reversing w/e was haunting him. He goes to her ohuse, and she said to recite a prayer. he recites it fine, until he gets to the word "Jesus". As we all know, demonically possessed people cannot say "Jesus". anyhow, after a couple efforts, the chair flings back powerfully, and he starts squirming on the ground, the demons shouting curse words in languages unknown to the person. the stylist hold up a cross, and says a bunch of prayer to the violently shaking and screaming man. after a while, you hear sort of a hiss, and the man stands up. He has regained his faith, and the spirit has never been back since. they interviewed him in the show, and he is still alive today.
There goes my thoughts about trying witchcraft...
lol, the church got pwned there, saying witchcraft isn't real.
lol, the church got pwned there, saying witchcraft isn't real.
Oh yeah. The Discovery Channel really showed them. :rolleyes:
Oh yeah. The Discovery Channel really showed them. :rolleyes:
Well, witchcraft is real enuf to those who believe in it.
Well, witchcraft is real enuf to those who believe in it.
for 2 reasons
1. The church acually belives it is real and doesn't want other people to know.
2. Christianity, in fact, is not real, and the priests know nothing.
3. If # 2 is correct, witchcraft is an unknown force in which we do not know how it works.
Thoses facts from a proud atheist:rasta:
Sunrise Earth is awesome!
Christianity, in fact, is not real.
Christianity, like
any religion, is mostly just a set of ideas. An idea can neither be proven or disproven.
This is coming from an
open-minded Christian (rather oxymoronic, isn't it?).
Thoses facts from a proud atheist:rasta:
I suggest the Rastafarian icon is not the most appropriate for an atheist.
Maybe xi's Jamaican mon? :D
Hi, Xiphos. Please...stop trying to help witches. Trust me, I know that your well-meant efforts are only making people think that we're even weirder.
I suppose you think all witches are evil, huh Els.
I suppose you think all witches are evil, huh Els.
Did you read what Els wrote? try again, Drax
Did you read what Els wrote?
Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.
Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.
but the "we're even weirder" phrase should have been a clue.
Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.
Why? Wouldja miss Hannah Montana? ;)
jeez... i didn't know saying i was atheist was gonna start a debate... well, thats what the cellar is all about. I, for 1, think religion is just a set of ideas, as said before. Because we all know how technical people were in the beginning of time, I think they were just interested in how they thought the world was created, and what lies beyond the universe.
To get a new conversation started, has anyone ever thought what lies beyond space? Is is all black? Is it Heaven?
That is probably what the people who created Christianity thought.
As for Jesus, I believe that he was exaggerated and didn't do all thoses miracles, like parting the Red Sea in the Exodus event.
For me, I REALLY don't know...
Why? Wouldja miss Hannah Montana? ;)
GIVE IT A REST, ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drax...chill. It's just that there ARE some members of the Cellar who are pagans or wiccan and consider themselves witches. Having said that, I highly doubt Els thinks witches are "evil."
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Welcome to the Cellar! :p
more witches!
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Drax...chill. It's just that there ARE some members of the Cellar who are pagans or wiccan and consider themselves witches. Having said that, I highly doubt Els thinks witches are "evil."
That's not what pissed about. Read #21 again.
As for Jesus, I believe that he was exaggerated and didn't do all thoses miracles, like parting the Red Sea in the Exodus event.
Absolutely. Jesus definitely did not part the Red Sea, and anyone who says he did is a complete fucking idiot.
Absolutely. Jesus definitely did not part the Red Sea, and anyone who says he did is a complete fucking idiot.
Umm...actually that was Yahweh thru Moses.
Anyway, aren't we getting way off topic here?
I know, dude. That's what I'm pointing out. Read it again; my statement is accurate.
I know, dude. That's what I'm pointing out. Read it again; my statement is accurate.
I read it. I just misunderstood. My bad. <brainfart> :blush:
Umm...actually that was Yahweh thru Moses.
Anyway, aren't we getting way off topic here?
o shit. goddam I forgot. JESUS wansn't alive then... it was moses :headbag:
It's okay, I still value your contributions just as much as I did before.
o shit. goddam I forgot. JESUS wansn't alive then... it was moses :headbag:
Correctimundo. Now can we get back on topic?
So now you just have the elspode witch brainfart apology/mybad to go....
(hint...he is a pagan... he used the word "we" in regard to witches....)
Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.
Drax...I *am* a witch. For over ten years and going strong. My wife and I ran a Wiccan coven for that length of time, took a hiatus, and are now reforming it with family and extended family for the purpose of magickally and mundanely bringing greater unity, peace and healing to our respective worlds.
Mostly, I was joshing with Xi, because it seemed obvious that, like most people, there was a serious lack of knowledge about what witchcraft and witches are all about in today's world. In the same way that there is no one specific Christian ethos, witches, or those who call themselves such, have a wide range of beliefs, practices and ethical guidelines by which they function. However, if you walk around and call yourself a witch in most of society, people *will* think you're weird. However, apart from some other nonstandard lifestyle choices in our household, we're as normal and regular as anyone else. We have jobs, raise children, go to our version of church, pay taxes, counsel our friends and community members, and dance naked around fires while playing drums.
Okay, maybe the last part is something that most people don't do...but they want to.
So, to summarze...I don't think witches are weird. I think *people* are weird, and witches are people, just like everyone else. Think about it...how is it weirder for us to worship Universal energy in the form of trees and rocks and air and water and fire and such than it is for someone to worship an invisible, insecure, vindictive Omnipotent power named Jehovah?
Drax...I *am* a witch.
That 's all you had to say. :)
Think about it...how is it weirder for us to worship Universal energy in the form of trees and rocks and air and water and fire and such than it is for someone to worship an invisible, insecure, vindictive Omnipotent power named Jehovah?
It's not, in fact, it may be better cuz you know nature's real. Not even the most faithful can prove the existence of God, no matter what name we use.
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Blessed be.

good show on right now.
The Human Body: Pushing the Limits
strength.....then sight ......
looks groovy
:thankyou: for getting us back on topic.
I miss Monster House. Come back to us Steve.
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Whew, good thing you steered this back on topic, Drax. ;)
ufo files/ufo hunters is pretty interesting.
I like "ghost hunters" better......I got hooked on it and now I can't stop. I almost got hooked on ufo hunters but had to stop myself.
(seeing the potential arguments develop between me and my husband over tv programming in advance, I would have no leg to stand on and no excuse) He just got used to ghost hunters and I'm not pushing it. Especially since he puts up with the back to back episodes.