Guilty Pleasures

BigV • Jan 29, 2008 8:01 pm
I like Jackie Chan films. All of them.

And Country Music, especially love songs late at night.

*cue the violins* "...these are a few of my faaaavorite things." Ok, I'm no Julie Andrews. But there are some things that I just like, despite popular opinion, fashionable tastes, or... rational explanation.

What are some of your guilty pleasures?
Aliantha • Jan 29, 2008 8:13 pm
Those aren't guilty pleasures. Why would you feel guilty about those things?
BigV • Jan 29, 2008 8:19 pm
Aliantha;428243 wrote:
Those aren't guilty pleasures. Why would you feel guilty about those things?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it. :rolleyes: Who made you the big Jello Sheriff of the house?
Aliantha • Jan 29, 2008 8:20 pm
I just don't get why you'd be guilty about liking love songs or Jackie Chan movies that's all.

If you felt guilty about looking at porn or eating the last of the icecream, now that I could understand.
Cloud • Jan 29, 2008 8:25 pm
I don't feel guilty about my pleasures, either. As long as they aren't hurting anyone . . . including me.

BUT! That's not the point, is it, Big V?
lumberjim • Jan 29, 2008 8:33 pm
sometimes.....when no one is looking.....

...oh, this is embarrassing......


oh, i'm just gonna say it....

sometimes, late at night, when i know no one is looking....I like to kill a hobo or two.
Aliantha • Jan 29, 2008 8:36 pm
again I ask, why would you feel guilty about that?
fredsonic • Jan 30, 2008 3:53 am
Aliantha;428248 wrote:
I just don't get why you'd be guilty about liking love songs or Jackie Chan movies that's all.

If you felt guilty about looking at porn or eating the last of the icecream, now that I could understand.


I think the word was [COLOR="Red"]"country"[/COLOR]
:eek:
Sundae • Jan 30, 2008 7:06 am
I like to pull ingrowing hairs out from under skin.
It's one of the big things I miss about having a man in my life, as they tend to have more.

Oh and there is a guilty kind of pleasure in squeezing blackheads too.
classicman • Jan 30, 2008 8:39 am
Thanks, SG - so much for breakfast.
aimeecc • Jan 30, 2008 9:17 am
Country music... yes. Sound of Music... yes. Guilty feeling? No.

Eating cheese steak wedgie from Fox's pizza (with a salad at least) followed by malted milk shakes (homemade) and popcorn with my hubby while we watch Hunt for Red October... Yep, feel guilty. Except for the salad and Hunt for Red October. Hubby and I were still hungry and he wanted to order another wedgie... I resisted. Have to draw the line somewhere!

I know they call it a wedgie because its shaped like a wedge... but I hate saying the name because it conjures up painful memories of being tormented by my siblings. lol
ZenGum • Jan 30, 2008 9:24 am
Finish your breakfast first Classic:


[COLOR="LemonChiffon"]peeling sunburn[/COLOR]
Sheldonrs • Jan 30, 2008 10:01 am
Lots of pleasure; never any guilt.:cool:
Clodfobble • Jan 30, 2008 1:02 pm
ZenGum, did you ever rub a thin layer of Elmer's glue (i.e., children's art project paste) on your hands and let it dry, just so you could peel it off?



Because I did.
Flint • Jan 30, 2008 1:18 pm
Clodfobble;428468 wrote:
ZenGum, did you ever rub a thin layer of Elmer's glue (i.e., children's art project paste) on your hands and let it dry, just so you could peel it off?



Because I did.
Yeah, that's awesome.

Have you ever put a bar napkin on top of a pint of Guinness, then pull the head off, let it dry for a while, then roll it up into a ball that has the consistency of chewing gum?

Okay, what about just tearing open the can and dropping the draught-ball into someone's pitcher?

Guinness is many things.
LabRat • Jan 30, 2008 1:20 pm
Not only did (do) I do that, I taught my kid how cool it was (is). !
Flint • Jan 30, 2008 1:22 pm
You let your kids drink Guinness?!
lookout123 • Jan 30, 2008 1:22 pm
cheesy Star Wars novels
marjoj77 • Jan 30, 2008 2:57 pm
Clodfobble;428468 wrote:
ZenGum, did you ever rub a thin layer of Elmer's glue (i.e., children's art project paste) on your hands and let it dry, just so you could peel it off?

I'm not ZenGum, but I used to do that. :D
Shawnee123 • Jan 30, 2008 3:00 pm
Me too. Layer upon layer, sometimes, trying to delay the peeling gratification until the glue was really thick and completely dry. It was like a second job!
Happy Monkey • Jan 30, 2008 4:08 pm
Flash Gordon.
Stress Puppy • Jan 30, 2008 4:29 pm
Puns. Except I'm not guilty over them. Nor do I feel guilt over country music, bad action movies, sci fi/fantasy novels, musicals, Harry Potter, spending hours at REI/camp goods stores, drinking tons of coffee, playing old RPGs or any of the other myriad of things I do.
binky • Jan 30, 2008 7:21 pm
Ozzy Osbourne
Cicero • Jan 30, 2008 7:25 pm
"Ghost Hunters." On Sci-Fi.....

Oh and I got caught trying to watch Abba the movie, because the guy was in a white spandex leotard.........and probably on cocaine..it's like watching a train-wreck...can't stop!
lumberjim • Jan 30, 2008 7:35 pm
Flint;428473 wrote:


Okay, what about just tearing open the can and dropping the draught-ball into someone's pitcher?

Guinness is many things.


what happens?
lumberjim • Jan 30, 2008 7:42 pm
fuckin wiki:

Widget (beer)

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A widget is a device placed in a container of beer to manage the characteristics of the beer's [COLOR=#0000ff]head[/COLOR]. The original widget was patented in Ireland by [COLOR=#0000ff]Guinness[/COLOR]. The "floating widget" found in cans of [COLOR=#0000ff]beer[/COLOR] is a hollow sphere, 3 cm in diameter.
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[LIST]<LI class=toclevel-1>[COLOR=#800080]1 Background[/COLOR] <LI class=toclevel-1>[COLOR=#800080]2 How it works[/COLOR] <LI class=toclevel-1>[COLOR=#800080]3 Development[/COLOR] <LI class=toclevel-1>[COLOR=#800080]4 Other Beers with Widgets[/COLOR] <LI class=toclevel-1>[COLOR=#800080]5 See also[/COLOR]
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[[COLOR=#0000ff]edit[/COLOR]] Background

Draught Guinness, as it is known today, was first produced in 1964. With Guinness keen to produce Draught in package for consumers to drink at home, Bottled Draught Guinness was fomulated in 1978 and launched into the Irish market in 1979. It was never actively marketed internationally as it required an initiator which looked rather like a syringe to make it work.

[[COLOR=#0000ff]edit[/COLOR]] How it works

A can of beer is pressurised by adding [COLOR=#0000ff]liquid nitrogen[/COLOR], which vaporises and expands in volume after the can is sealed, forcing gas and beer into the widget's hollow interior through a tiny hole&#8212;the less beer the better for subsequent head quality. In addition, some nitrogen dissolves in the beer which also contains dissolved [COLOR=#0000ff]carbon dioxide[/COLOR].
The presence of dissolved nitrogen allows smaller [COLOR=#0000ff]bubbles[/COLOR] to be formed with consequent greater creaminess of the subsequent head. This is because the smaller bubbles need a higher internal pressure to balance the greater [COLOR=#0000ff]surface tension[/COLOR], which is [COLOR=#0000ff]inversely proportional[/COLOR] to the [COLOR=#0000ff]radius[/COLOR] of the bubbles. Achieving this higher pressure is not possible just with dissolved carbon dioxide because of the greater solubility of this gas compared to nitrogen would create an unacceptably large head.
When the can is opened, the pressure in the can quickly drops, causing the pressurised gas and beer inside the widget to jet out from the hole. This agitation on the surrounding beer causes a chain reaction of bubble formation throughout the beer. The result, when the can is then poured out, is a surging mixture in the glass of very small gas bubbles and liquid.
This is the case with certain types of [COLOR=#0000ff]draught beer[/COLOR] such as draught [COLOR=#0000ff]stouts[/COLOR]. In the case of these draught beers, which before dispensing also contain a mixture of dissolved nitrogen and carbon dioxide, the agitation is caused by forcing the beer under pressure through small holes in a restrictor in the tap. The surging mixture gradually settles to produce a very creamy head.

[[COLOR=#0000ff]edit[/COLOR]] Development

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Expired [COLOR=#0000ff]British[/COLOR] Patent No 1266351, filed [COLOR=#0000ff]1969[/COLOR]-[COLOR=#0000ff]01-27[/COLOR]


The inventors of generating 'draught' Guinness from cans or bottles - by means of 'sudden gas discharge from an internal compartment' when the can/bottle is opened were: Tony Carey and Sammy Hildebrand, brewers with Guinness in Dublin, in 1968.
This invention was patented by them in British Patent No 1266351, filed [COLOR=#0000ff]1969[/COLOR]-[COLOR=#0000ff]01-27[/COLOR], complete specification published [COLOR=#0000ff]1972[/COLOR]-[COLOR=#0000ff]03-08[/COLOR].
Development work on a can system under Project ACORN focused on an arrangement whereby a false lid underneath the main lid formed the gas chamber. Technical difficulties led to a decision to put the can route on hold and concentrate on bottles using external initiators. Subsequently, Guinness allowed this patent to lapse and it was not until Ernest Saunders centralised [COLOR=#0000ff]R&D[/COLOR] in 1984 that work re-started on this invention under the direction of Alan Forage.
The design of an internal compartment that could be readily inserted during the canning process was devised by Alan Forage and William Byrne, and work started on the widget during the period [COLOR=#0000ff]1984[/COLOR]&#8211;[COLOR=#0000ff]85[/COLOR].
The plan was to introduce a plastic capsule into the can, pressurise it during the filling process and then allow it to release this pressure in a controlled manner when the can was being opened. This would be sufficient to initiate the product and give it the characteristic creamy head. However, it was pointed out by Tony Carey that this resulted in beer being forced into the widget during pasteurisation with consequent very poor head quality. He suggested overcoming this by rapidly inverting the can after the lid was seamed on. This extra innovation was successful.
It is important that [COLOR=#0000ff]oxygen[/COLOR] be eliminated from any process developed as this can cause flavour deterioration when present.
The first samples sent to Dublin were labelled "Project Dynamite", which caused some delay before customs and excise would release the samples. Because of this the name was changed to Oaktree. Another name that changed was "inserts"; the operators called them "widgets" almost immediately after they arrived on site, a name that has now stuck with the industry.
The development of ideas continued. In fact over 100 alternatives were considered. The blow-moulded widget was to be pierced with a laser and a blower was then necessary to blow away the plume created by the laser burning through the polypropylene. This was abandoned and instead it was decided to gas-exchange air for nitrogen on the filler, and produce the inserts with a hole in place using straightforward and cheaper injection-moulding techniques.
Commissioning began [COLOR=#0000ff]January 1988[/COLOR], with a national launch date of [COLOR=#0000ff]March 1989[/COLOR].
This first-generation widget was a plastic disc held by friction in the bottom of the can. This method worked fine if the beer was served cold; when served warm the can would overflow when opened. The floating widget, which was launched in [COLOR=#0000ff]1997[/COLOR], does not have this problem.
As the widget is a plastic material it can cause problems when the can is recycled. Users of cans containing widgets are requested to remove them before recycling the can.
TheMercenary • Jan 30, 2008 7:48 pm
Thanks Jim. I knew part of that info but it closed the loop on a number of missing bits.
ZenGum • Jan 30, 2008 8:53 pm
Clodfobble;428468 wrote:
ZenGum, did you ever rub a thin layer of Elmer's glue (i.e., children's art project paste) on your hands and let it dry, just so you could peel it off?



Because I did.


marjoj77;428506 wrote:
I'm not ZenGum, but I used to do that. :D


Shawnee123;428508 wrote:
Me too. Layer upon layer, sometimes, trying to delay the peeling gratification until the glue was really thick and completely dry. It was like a second job!


Ahhhh, the art-room exfoliation! Good fun for all. IIRC we used Aquadhere, a PVA glue. Looking back that might not have been such a great idea. But damn it was fun.

WHY was it fun? 'cause everyone liked it, but .... why?
Cloud • Jan 30, 2008 9:10 pm
LOL! The first time I encountered that widgetball thingy in my Guinness, I'm like, "WTF is this? There's SOMETHING IN MY BEER! GET IT OUT! GET IT OUT!"
classicman • Jan 30, 2008 10:52 pm
anybody make rubber cement balls and toss them around in art class, or just me?
TheMercenary • Jan 31, 2008 7:23 am
Guilty Pleasure:

The Cellar
Trilby • Jan 31, 2008 8:06 am
rosamund pilcher novels

french fries with mayo

flirting
Shawnee123 • Jan 31, 2008 11:44 am
old computer games (think Commander Keen; King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Duke Nukem I and II, etc)

Syndicated sit-coms (King of Queen, Two and a Half Men, Seinfeld, Friends.)

America's Next Top Model

Time and Newsweek
melidasaur • Feb 1, 2008 2:34 pm
A slice of pizza and a maple cake donut from Casey's General Store, along with a 20 oz of diet pepsi and a Little House on the Prairie Marathon.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 1, 2008 2:43 pm
Hell's bells, "A slice of pizza and a maple cake donut" wouldn't get me from the store to my TV.
Radar • Feb 1, 2008 6:07 pm
lumberjim;428258 wrote:
sometimes.....when no one is looking.....

...oh, this is embarrassing......


oh, i'm just gonna say it....

sometimes, late at night, when i know no one is looking....I like to kill a hobo or two.


And you feel guilty about this? Seriously, they are hobos. Who is gonna miss one or two?
Radar • Feb 1, 2008 6:33 pm
My guilty pleasure is watching lots cheesy b-rated action movies on late night cable tv staring Don "The Dragon" Wilson, Billy Blanks, Phillip Rhee, Jeff Speakman, etc.

Also Ski School 1 & 2, miracle beach,
Cicero • Feb 1, 2008 7:01 pm
Are all my pleasures dripping with guilt? (sorry different topic) :)

It appears as if I will be having a not-so-scary "b movie" marathon on Sunday.

A pajama (only) sunday (more guilt) filled with bad movies and (possibly bad) food. I haven't been able to do this for a long time....I missed it..I can't wait for Sunday!! Loafing and laughing at foreign "horror" films. Yea!!
ZenGum • Feb 1, 2008 9:22 pm
lumberjim;428258 wrote:
sometimes.....when no one is looking.....

...oh, this is embarrassing......


oh, i'm just gonna say it....

sometimes, late at night, when i know no one is looking....I like to kill a hobo or two.


Radar;429224 wrote:
And you feel guilty about this? Seriously, they are hobos. Who is gonna miss one or two?


Well, so long as you keep within your bag limit and don't take undersize ones, then it seems reasonable. Have to keep it sustainable. But not when they are passed out drunk, though, there's no sport in that.
zippyt • Feb 1, 2008 10:01 pm
But not when they are passed out drunk, though, there's no sport in that.

But they don't move as fast then !!!!

How about Baiting them with MadDog 20/20 , or ThunderBird wine ??
lumberjim • Feb 1, 2008 10:17 pm
if i wanted sport, i'd be killing hookers. sheesh.
Elspode • Feb 1, 2008 11:07 pm
My guiltiest pleasure is going back through all the revealing pics of Cellarites and fantasizing that the women want me, and the men envy me.
melidasaur • Feb 2, 2008 12:58 pm
xoxoxoBruce;429170 wrote:
Hell's bells, "A slice of pizza and a maple cake donut" wouldn't get me from the store to my TV.


Thankfully, Casey's is not that far. It's hard, but I do it.
monster • Feb 2, 2008 2:52 pm
Elspode;429274 wrote:
My guiltiest pleasure is going back through all the revealing pics of Cellarites and fantasizing that the women want me, and the men envy me.


melidasaur;429342 wrote:
Thankfully, Casey's is not that far. It's hard, but I do it.


Here, I'll help you both out. Always had you down as a girly, Melida, sorry about that!

:D
euphoriatheory • Feb 2, 2008 3:30 pm
America's Next Top Model. Definitely. And I occasionally watch Dr. Phil and Roseanne, just to make myself feel better about my own life.:redface:

World of Warcraft.... damnit, I really am I nerd, aren't I?? I just admitted it online.

When no one else is home, I just don't bother getting dressed after I shower. I'm not that fond of clothes. I generally just wear them for the rest of the world.
jinx • Feb 2, 2008 3:52 pm
My sister made me watch the model show yesterday (she had it tivo'd), and although I love Top Chef and Project Runway, I hated it.
I watch Oprah and Dr. Phil when I'm on the treadmill at the gym. Oprah has gotten pretty boring though, and Dr Phil has got to be the biggest tool on TV, aside from his wife of course... and his guests... What does he have a phd in anyway, home decorating or some shit?
euphoriatheory • Feb 2, 2008 4:59 pm
Oh, Top Chef and Project Runway are two of my favorites, I wouldn't consider them guilty pleasures at all.

And you're right about Dr. Phil... my husband is doing Army stuff all weekend and I have the flu, so I was lying on the couch watching whatever happened to be on because I couldn't reach the remote without moving... Dr. Phil was on, and may God strike me dead if I did not actually think, "What the hell is his degree in anyway?" (He was showing pregnant 16 year old clips from the movie "Juno"... great deterrance there... Hollywood will surely reflect the reality facing them.
melidasaur • Feb 2, 2008 5:06 pm
monster;429369 wrote:
Here, I'll help you both out. Always had you down as a girly, Melida, sorry about that!

:D


I am a girl... :female:. Casey's is a chain of convenience stores... I wasn't talking about Case the person.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 2, 2008 5:42 pm
I knew that.
TheMercenary • Feb 3, 2008 1:31 pm
Watching 1940's, 50's, and 60's black and white B-rated monster movies.
marjoj77 • Feb 3, 2008 4:04 pm
One of my guilty pleasures is reading the cheap romance books (Harlequin etc)...
monster • Feb 3, 2008 5:32 pm
xoxoxoBruce;429390 wrote:
I knew that.


so did I.... ;)
BrianR • Feb 4, 2008 12:12 am
I get my jollies from leaning on my air horn when passing through tunnels. Scaring other drivers is a plus!
fredsonic • Feb 4, 2008 11:45 am
BrianR;429599 wrote:
I get my jollies from leaning on my air horn when passing through tunnels. Scaring other drivers is a plus!



I do that on my bike (a one of those new fangled ones with pedals). I fitted a one of those portable air-horns when I used to cycle to work in Newcastle. I used to cross the Town Moor (a large field where Freemen of the City may graze their cattle for free, really!) Those cows would not shift off the path without it. :lol2:
Perry Winkle • Feb 4, 2008 12:03 pm
There are two disturbing things about this thread: People drink Guiness out of cans (or bottles, even). And there is a new dweller that is, like, right down the road from me.

NCL, ftw!
shina • Feb 4, 2008 12:18 pm
Nip/Tuck. Sexy little show.
bbro • Feb 4, 2008 12:41 pm
When I had cable, I used to watch America's Next Top Model and Inside Brookhaven Obesity Clinic at the same time. Now, it's just ANTM
BigV • Feb 7, 2008 2:36 pm
Drinking milk straight from the jug or carton.



btw, this has backfired on me.
Tink • Feb 11, 2008 2:32 pm
BigV;430625 wrote:
Drinking milk straight from the jug or carton.



btw, this has backfired on me.


Don't let me catch you doing that!:headshake
Flint • Feb 11, 2008 2:34 pm
She's gonna whup yer ass, V!

[SIZE="1"]In his defense, though, I think he said he only does it when it's the last little bit.[/SIZE]
kerosene • Feb 11, 2008 2:38 pm
monster;429522 wrote:
so did I.... ;)


I didn't :D
Tink • Feb 11, 2008 3:00 pm
Flint;431500 wrote:
She's gonna whup yer ass, V!

[SIZE="1"]In his defense, though, I think he said he only does it when it's the last little bit.[/SIZE]


He did. I just couldn't resist is all. Going a day without giving him shit would be so out of character for me. :D
zewb • Feb 11, 2008 3:13 pm
I guess my main guilty pleasure is my completely reckless and incorrigible use of recreational drugs and illegal fireworks, sometimes simultaneously. The ones besides that are smoking cigarettes, and enjoying a pint of Guinness every now and then.
Shawnee123 • Feb 11, 2008 3:26 pm
You're my kind of guy/girl, zewb. :)

Do you say your name more like zooob or like zoo-bee?
Drax • Feb 11, 2008 4:02 pm
Maybe I should feel guilty when I see a Perdy Young Thang, and think to myself "if only I was 20-something years younger", but I don't.

Or, or, how 'bout lookin' at all 'em teen tasties on the Disney Channel.

'Course can lookie, but no touchie. ;)
Clodfobble • Feb 11, 2008 5:25 pm
Drax wrote:
Or, or, how 'bout lookin' at all 'em teen tasties on the Disney Channel.


Oh my god I just threw up in my mouth a little.
BigV • Feb 11, 2008 5:36 pm
Flint;431500 wrote:
She's gonna whup yer ass, V!

[SIZE="1"]In his defense, though, I think he said he only does it when it's the last little bit.[/SIZE]


Tink;431512 wrote:
He did. I just couldn't resist is all. Going a day without giving him shit would be so out of character for me. :D


Oh what a relief! Thanks Flint. It *is* only at the end of the jug. Sometimes as an extra special guilty pleasure, I put a couple shots of Hershey's Chocolate Syrup in the jug, replace the cap, and shake the heck out of the whole jug. Chocolate Foam!
Drax • Feb 11, 2008 5:44 pm
Clodfobble;431594 wrote:
Oh my god I just threw up in my mouth a little.


Geez, when was the last time you watched TDC, the 50s with the original Mousekateers? Get with the program.

So yer tellin' me that when you look at Miley Cryus, Emily Osmont, Ashley Tisdale, Brenda Song, and Selena Gomez, yer not thinkin' "These young ladies will certainly be beautiful women one day." How old are you.
Clodfobble • Feb 11, 2008 9:44 pm
Drax wrote:
How old are you.


Might be more pertinent to consider my gender. I'm a woman with children (had the Disney channel playing in the livingroom just a few hours ago, as a matter of fact,) and when I look at Miley Cyrus I say, "That young lady is dressed like a hooker." My stepdaughter is not allowed to watch the programs you are referring to, for that very reason.

And for the record, 'will someday be beautiful women' is not the same as... [size=1]ugh, it's horrific to even type it[/size]... "teen tasties."
Drax • Feb 11, 2008 10:46 pm
1. Those girls are only wearing the same kind of clothes that any teenage girl wears Incidently, Miley and Emily wear jeans most of the time.

2. I'm mostly noticing the faces. Anything else does make me feel guility.

3. Ok, "teen tasties"...wrong phrase.

4. You won't let yer kid watch a kid's channel??

5. I'm not the only adult who watches the Disney Channel.

6. I don't only watch for the girls. In fact, that's a relatively small reason. I like what the shows are about.
classicman • Feb 11, 2008 11:15 pm
Drax;431602 wrote:
So yer tellin' me that when you look at Miley Cryus, Emily Osmont, Ashley Tisdale, Brenda Song, and Selena Gomez, yer not thinkin' "These young ladies will certainly be beautiful women one day." How old are you.


I've got no idea who any of those people are.
Drax • Feb 11, 2008 11:23 pm
Well, Wiki knows. :D
Clodfobble • Feb 11, 2008 11:37 pm
Drax wrote:
4. You won't let yer kid watch a kid's channel??


Sorry, Michael Eisner doesn't get to decide what's appropriate for my children. There are lots of things on Disney that are fine. Some things are not, usually along the lines of attitude and respect. Any character in any show that ever says "Hel-LOOoo," for example, is about half a second away from getting nixed in my house.

I believe that you actually enjoy the pre-teen shows on Disney, and that's fine, you're welcome to like them. It's phrases like "lookin' at all 'em teen tasties" you might want to avoid, that's all.
classicman • Feb 11, 2008 11:43 pm
Drax, I'm in my 40's and don't care who they are either. They are children and are never, in my never humble opinion, to be looked at that way.
Drax • Feb 12, 2008 12:15 am
classicman;431716 wrote:
Drax, I'm in my 40's and don't care who they are either. They are children and are never, in my never humble opinion, to be looked at that way.


Ok, but imagne what they could look like closer to your own age.
Drax • Feb 12, 2008 12:28 am
Clodfobble;431713 wrote:
I believe that you actually enjoy the pre-teen shows on Disney, and that's fine, you're welcome to like them.


15-18 is pre-teen?

BTW, after seeing your kid's photo in your profile, I can understand your position on this? Do you at least let her watch Playhouse Disney? I understand it's on TDC every morning?
jinx • Feb 12, 2008 12:45 am
Miley Cyrus is 14.

"Hannah Montana" is seen on Disney Channels all over the world and on DisneyChannel.com via streaming broadband video. In 2007 to date and for 2006, it was the No. 1 series on basic cable in the U.S. among kids 6-11 and tweens and, across all television, was second only to "American Idol" in those key youth demographics.
Clodfobble • Feb 12, 2008 12:45 am
15-18 is the age of the actors... the shows (i.e., the plot lines, the part you say you enjoy) are aimed at 8-12 year olds.

The picture in my profile is me when I was about 3 years old. My stepdaughter is 9.
Drax • Feb 12, 2008 1:04 am
jinx;431739 wrote:
Miley Cyrus is 14.


That article was written a month before her 15th birthday.
Drax • Feb 12, 2008 1:08 am
Clodfobble;431740 wrote:
15-18 is the age of the actors... the shows (i.e., the plot lines, the part you say you enjoy) are aimed at 8-12 year olds.

The picture in my profile is me when I was about 3 years old. My stepdaughter is 9.


I still understand your position.

Are we done yet?
zewb • Feb 12, 2008 4:05 pm
Shawnee123;431529 wrote:
You're my kind of guy/girl, zewb. :)

Do you say your name more like zooob or like zoo-bee?


I'm a guy, and it's pronounced "zoob."

Image

This picture I took the other night contains many of the things that make me happy. That's a live artillery round, by the way.
binky • Feb 12, 2008 4:42 pm
Drax;431696 wrote:
1. Those girls are only wearing the same kind of clothes that any teenage girl wears Incidently, Miley and Emily wear jeans most of the time.

2. I'm mostly noticing the faces. Anything else does make me feel guility.

3. Ok, "teen tasties"...wrong phrase.

4. You won't let yer kid watch a kid's channel??

5. I'm not the only adult who watches the Disney Channel.

6. I don't only watch for the girls. In fact, that's a relatively small reason. I like what the shows are about.


Am I the only one that thinks Drax is a 12 year old girl trapped in a man's body??
Perry Winkle • Feb 12, 2008 5:25 pm
Clodfobble;431713 wrote:
Sorry, Michael Eisner doesn't get to decide what's appropriate for my children.


I thought I read that Eisner was no longer at Disney. (Not that that's either here or there.)
monster • Feb 12, 2008 6:54 pm
Drax;431728 wrote:
Ok, but imagne what they could look like closer to your own age.


Tits around their knees, vaginas six miles wide.... or dead.

Is that what you're doing, by the way? imagining them when they're late thirties?




Jail-bait is the term you are all looking for, by-the-way.


Oh and pervs is the term for the adult disney viewers. :D
monster • Feb 12, 2008 7:07 pm
binky;431845 wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks Drax is a 12 year old girl trapped in a man's body??


Probably not, but to be fair, I think the "trapped in a man's body" should be applied as a form of mitigation rather than accusation. Listing teen-lusting as a guilty pleasure might just be an attempt to fit in with the lads rather than an admission to being a mental kiddie-fiddler.

However, Drax might "fit in better" if he were to realise that his penchant for Disney and other such juvenile things is not normal adult behaviour and no-one is going to treat it as such. If he really wants to dscuss these things seriously and not get the piss taken out of him, he might be better on a Disney-style board when he feels a teen moment coming on. Just for his own "sanity" if nothing else.



Like they say, though, you can lead a horse to water.....
lookout123 • Feb 12, 2008 8:12 pm
So yer tellin' me that when you look at Miley Cryus, Emily Osmont, Ashley Tisdale, Brenda Song, and Selena Gomez, yer not thinkin' "These young ladies will certainly be beautiful women one day."

If you didn't already say this:

Maybe I should feel guilty when I see a Perdy Young Thang, and think to myself "if only I was 20-something years younger", but I don't.

Or, or, how 'bout lookin' at all 'em teen tasties on the Disney Channel.


I might not be completely creeped out Drax. Dude, I loves to look at beautiful women. I've even been known to comment that a girl will be absolutely beautiful when she grows up... but watching the disney channel and thinking "PYT", "teen tasties", and wishing you were younger is not just admiring beauty. Those are kids dude. It's creepy. Get a new hobby.
classicman • Feb 12, 2008 10:33 pm
Drax;431728 wrote:
Ok, but imagne what they could look like closer to your own age.


no thanks, not interested.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2008 1:05 am
But my first attraction was to 13 year old girls, so why exactly should I not like them anymore? Social mores? Because it's inappropriate? Because it makes you feel icky?

Just because I've reached the age where 13 or 33, it's just not worth the bullshit, doesn't mean I can't appreciate their appeal.
lumberjim • Feb 13, 2008 2:07 am
but doesn't your attraction shift as you age? mine totally does...

I look at Milfs now....

I remember going into 10th grade....wow....the girls ALL had boobs. how awesome. And then college....they were women....curvy...and high school girls seemed ...not as sexy?

and now I look at an 18 yr old on some porn site, and it always occurs to me that her parents would die if they saw this....

I like a 30-38 yr old woman now..... a dirty one...or two. ;)
lumberjim • Feb 13, 2008 2:09 am
here's something funny you can do:

when you see a hot mom and her kid...point her out to your buddy and ask him if he would hit that. when he assents, ask him if he'd hit the mom, too.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2008 4:20 am
lumberjim;432002 wrote:
but doesn't your attraction shift as you age? mine totally does...
Not so much shift, as expand. Continually adding appreciation of new groups... types, shapes, special attributes, and of course talents.

My 13 year old was a dead ringer for Annette Funicello, not some skinny waif that happen to reach puberty.
classicman • Feb 13, 2008 8:15 am
lumberjim wrote:
but doesn't your attraction shift as you age? mine totally does...



I think moreso as you mature than age. Although normally the two happen concurrently, but not always.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2008 11:57 am
Or are you just adjusting your expectations to reality and availability?

Generally sex involves more than rutting, and as you mature your want to interact with someone you can connect with mentally and emotionally.

But I'm not talking about looking at a person as someone to connect with,
I'm talking about looking at someone, and appreciating their beauty and sexuality.
lookout123 • Feb 13, 2008 12:12 pm
Bruce, I absolutely agree with you that it is normal to admire the beauty in women of all ages. There is a sea of difference between thinking, "Hey, that teenage star is a real looker" when you come across them on tv or in print and choosing to sit down in front of the tv and watch the disney channel so you can watch the "teenie tasties". Completely different.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2008 12:16 pm
But, but, but, love the one you're with. ;)
BigV • Feb 14, 2008 4:18 pm
Turning up the thermostat instead of getting my hat and sweater and socks and blanket....
monster • Feb 14, 2008 4:22 pm
I wonder if the difference is having kids? When you have kids, you suddenly view them as items to protect rather than lust after?
Ibby • Feb 16, 2008 2:06 pm
i know for sure that if i were ten or twenty years older a lot of the girls (and guys) i find attractive would just be, kinda creepy. And conversely, a lot of the men and ladies you old farts are on about are just kinda old for me. I figure, its either environmental (one is mostly surrounded by people close to one's age so that's what one likes), or just a biological predisposition to wanna mate with those of the roughly same age or generation.

that said, i concur, drax is a creep.
Clodfobble • Feb 16, 2008 2:38 pm
Ibram wrote:
that said, i concur, drax is a creep.


The thing is, I totally understand what his deal is. The circumstances of his life have left him in a position of being very immature for his age. He is, for all intents and purposes of mental attraction, the same age as these girls. It actually makes more sense for him to be attracted to them, rather than women his age. But unlike a 15-year-old boy, he has an extra 20-odd years of sexual frustration hanging off him, which is what changes it from American-Pie-funny-because-it's-awkward-desperation into creepy-ass-pedophile-desperation.
SteveDallas • Feb 16, 2008 2:39 pm
lookout123;432073 wrote:
Bruce, I absolutely agree with you that it is normal to admire the beauty in women of all ages. There is a sea of difference between thinking, "Hey, that teenage star is a real looker" when you come across them on tv or in print and choosing to sit down in front of the tv and watch the disney channel so you can watch the "teenie tasties". Completely different.

I "get" to watch these shows all the time (my son loves them)... I compare it to this generation's version of Happy Days. I wonder what my parents thought when Fonzie had a date with the Brezinsky Triplets?? The girls are cute. The plots are beyond lame. Yawn.

monster;432365 wrote:
I wonder if the difference is having kids? When you have kids, you suddenly view them as items to protect rather than lust after?

It depends on what you mean by "lust after." (Like Jimmy Carter, I have lusted after women in my heart.) I can think, "wow, she looks really nice." That doesn't mean, "wow, I'd like to hit that." That may seem like a subtle distinction, but it's a distinction nonetheless.

Teenagers will always dress to shock--whatever it takes to "shock" in a particular generation. What I find repulsive is not the fashions on these shows, it's the way those fashions have been co-opted for profit by the mega-corporations that produce and air the TV shows. I'm more concerned about how to deal with the consumeristic impulses of the predominate culture than with the fashions. (Though I'm not a fan of many of the fashions.)
Drax • Feb 16, 2008 7:59 pm
lookout123;432073 wrote:
"teenie tasties"


Oh good Lord. Now, I regretting my choice of words there. :D
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 16, 2008 8:27 pm
This is all bullshit, speculating the reasoning behind the choice of the phrase "teenie tasties".
Just why do you think those girls were chosen for the roles they play? Because they would be attractive to their target audience, methinks, because they are "teenie tasties". Does acknowledging that make me a pedophile?
jinx • Feb 16, 2008 9:23 pm
Their target audience is my 7 year old daughter. She doesn't call them teenie tasties.
Drax • Feb 16, 2008 9:47 pm
xoxoxoBruce;432726 wrote:
This is all bullshit, speculating the reasoning behind the choice of the phrase "teenie tasties".
Just why do you think those girls were chosen for the roles they play? Because they would be attractive to their target audience, methinks, because they are "teenie tasties". Does acknowledging that make me a pedophile?


Damn. I could've used that argument when ya'll were bashin' for posting all 'ose pix.
Drax • Feb 16, 2008 9:49 pm
jinx;432731 wrote:
Their target audience is my 7 year old daughter. She doesn't call them teenie tasties.


Be glad she doesn't.
monster • Feb 17, 2008 11:29 am
Drax;432733 wrote:
Damn. I could've used that argument when ya'll were bashin' for posting all 'ose pix.


'ose?

nose?

nose picks?
Drax • Feb 17, 2008 3:45 pm
those.