Aussie Actor Heath Ledger Found Dead

DucksNuts • Jan 22, 2008 5:01 pm
No details as yet, well, none down here...its only just hitting the headlines.

How sad :(
DucksNuts • Jan 22, 2008 5:04 pm
Ok, drug overdose apparently.
Aliantha • Jan 22, 2008 5:05 pm
Holy shit. I haven't even turned on the news yet.
Radar • Jan 22, 2008 5:10 pm
Wow!
Cicero • Jan 22, 2008 5:33 pm
I started a thread in Entertainment....suppose I need to go erase it.

waaah!! :(
Sad...
glatt • Jan 22, 2008 5:39 pm
Who?

Edit: Never mind. I Googled him.
HungLikeJesus • Jan 22, 2008 6:06 pm
Why is the death of some actor that you never met any more important than the death of someone else that you never met?
Happy Monkey • Jan 22, 2008 6:07 pm
The new Joker. I wonder if he'll be recast in any sequels.
Aliantha • Jan 22, 2008 6:09 pm
HungLikeJesus;426433 wrote:
Why is the death of some actor that you never met any more important than the death of someone else that you never met?



Because even though you haven't met them, you know about them.

You could apply the same reasoning to how you feel when the parent of a friend passes away. You didn't actually know them, but because there's knowledge about them in your mind, you have an emotional response.
Cicero • Jan 22, 2008 6:30 pm
HungLikeJesus;426433 wrote:
Why is the death of some actor that you never met any more important than the death of someone else that you never met?


Hey HLJ, I was never comparing the importance of deaths. That would be offensive. I enjoyed watching Heath Ledger in films. K? Now I won't see new HL films. I bet you know of a couple actors that you would be disappointed about if they had died. Just think for a moment.


By my internal chart I'd say the quality of my movie experiences just dropped by 1 percent. That's a lot for me.
:yelsick:

I have never formally met you or Heath Ledger.


Song:
I've never met HL or HLJ- and I'm not comparing the importance of their deaths today!! (supposed to rhyme here)
:)



Ok better luck with the song the next celebrity death that I actually care 'bout!
HungLikeJesus • Jan 22, 2008 6:35 pm
Cicero;426442 wrote:


Song:
I've never met HL or HLJ- and I'm not comparing the importance of their deaths today!! (supposed to rhyme here)
:)


I'm not dead.

I'm getting better.

I feel fine.

I think I'll go for a walk.

I feel happy. I feel happy.
Radar • Jan 22, 2008 6:36 pm
Heath Ledger just turned himself into the next James Dean.
wolf • Jan 22, 2008 6:44 pm
Only if he were more talented.
Radar • Jan 22, 2008 6:49 pm
I thought he was pretty talented. I don't think James Dean was ever nominated for an Oscar. At least not while he was alive.
Cicero • Jan 22, 2008 6:50 pm
HungLikeJesus;426443 wrote:
I'm not dead.

I'm getting better.

I feel fine.

I think I'll go for a walk.

I feel happy. I feel happy.


Only living people miss the point! And get to sing about it!!

So... you must be alive! (I am grateful of that, even though I have never formally met you)
:)
DucksNuts • Jan 22, 2008 7:29 pm
HungLikeJesus;426433 wrote:
Why is the death of some actor that you never met any more important than the death of someone else that you never met?


'coz they arent as hot as Heath?
HungLikeJesus • Jan 22, 2008 7:36 pm
DucksNuts;426458 wrote:
'coz they arent as hot as Heath?


150,000 people die every day.

I'm sure at least a few of them you would find attractive.
binky • Jan 22, 2008 7:42 pm
perhaps before they died
Cicero • Jan 22, 2008 7:42 pm
True HLJ. So true.
:)
DucksNuts • Jan 22, 2008 7:45 pm
HungLikeJesus;426462 wrote:
150,000 people die every day.

I'm sure at least a few of them you would find attractive.


Should I make a thread for them all and name them...then can I declare that I am sad that someone I knew of and appreciated died?
kerosene • Jan 22, 2008 7:49 pm
Cicero;426442 wrote:

I have never formally met you or Heath Ledger.


Song:
I've never met HL or HLJ- and I'm not comparing the importance of their deaths today!! (supposed to rhyme here)
:)



Ok better luck with the song the next celebrity death that I actually care 'bout!


I have met HLJ but not HL. I know I care that Heath Ledger died, and I am sure I would care if HLJ died. Does that make things any more confusing for anyone?
Happy Monkey • Jan 22, 2008 7:55 pm
HungLikeJesus;426462 wrote:
150,000 people die every day.

I'm sure at least a few of them you would find attractive.
They won't, however, cause character appearance continuity problems, should the Joker appear in any Batman sequels.
Cicero • Jan 22, 2008 8:10 pm
case;426467 wrote:
I have met HLJ but not HL. I know I care that Heath Ledger died, and I am sure I would care if HLJ died. Does that make things any more confusing for anyone?


Well caser...his initial question was about people you have never met vs. people you have never met....(dying) and why is one more important than the other.

I care that Hitler is dead. (I prefer it) Never met him. Yes I do care if people I do not know personally are dead or not.

Because I care. :D

I don't think you are confusing caser. I think HLJ is trying snuff out "celebrity hype" when people really are disappointed. I think he was an awesome actor and will be disappointed to not see him in new films.

I have always liked Jack Nicholson and will disappointed when he kicks the bucket too. He's getting old.

I wish Susan Sontag and Hannah Arendt were alive too though...so I'm not the best to speak to about these things.
Cloud • Jan 22, 2008 8:39 pm
I think it's just a shame. He was only 28, with a young baby, and would have had a great long career. I've liked him ever since he came out in Roar. And for anyone who doesn't think he was talented, compare his roles in Brokeback Mountain and the Brothers Grimm. Amazing range there.
classicman • Jan 22, 2008 11:25 pm
I'm more angry that he carried on the way he did and basically killed himself, albeit not intentionally. Especially with such a bright future and a young child. The acceptance of this type of behavior is maddening. Talented? - absolutely,so what? He fucked up & now he's dead. All that talent wasted, just like Belushi, Candy, Hartman and several others.
lumberjim • Jan 23, 2008 2:30 am
Cicero;426475 wrote:


I don't think you are confusing caser. I think HLJ is trying snuff out "celebrity hype" when people really are disappointed. I think he was an awesome actor and will be disappointed to not see him in new films.



that's why people are disappointed when celebs die. it's selfish. they will not be entertaining us anymore. it's kind of cold to think of it that way....but really....it's the truth.
Aliantha • Jan 23, 2008 3:01 am
classicman;426507 wrote:
I'm more angry that he carried on the way he did and basically killed himself, albeit not intentionally. Especially with such a bright future and a young child. The acceptance of this type of behavior is maddening. Talented? - absolutely,so what? He fucked up & now he's dead. All that talent wasted, just like Belushi, Candy, Hartman and several others.


Apparently he had pneumonia. It's possible it was an accidental overdose. People will know more tomorrow after the autopsy.

It's very sad that he's left behind a beautiful daughter, especially considering the way he spoke about her in interviews.

I still find it less surprising when a celeb dies of an OD, but that doesn't make the circumstances any less sad.
Elspode • Jan 23, 2008 6:52 am
HungLikeJesus;426462 wrote:
150,000 people die every day.

I'm sure at least a few of them you would find attractive.


Hmm, lessee...there's about a hundred or so relatively active Cellarites. If each of us wrote a little something about everyone who died each day, that'd only be 1500 brief obits we'd each need to cover. Tough, but doable. :)
Cloud • Jan 23, 2008 11:59 am
pneumonia? where are you coming up with that?

If it's not on CNN, I don't believe it. ;)

Actually, what rang true for me were the comments about the effect of playing the joker, and how he wasn't sleeping at all because of it. Easy to make a mistake; or think, well one pill works okay, more pills would work better.

Easy, but dumb. He never struck me as being the brightest bulb.
kerosene • Jan 23, 2008 12:47 pm
Cicero;426475 wrote:
Well caser...his initial question was about people you have never met vs. people you have never met....(dying) and why is one more important than the other.

I care that Hitler is dead. (I prefer it) Never met him. Yes I do care if people I do not know personally are dead or not.

Because I care. :D

I don't think you are confusing caser. I think HLJ is trying snuff out "celebrity hype" when people really are disappointed. I think he was an awesome actor and will be disappointed to not see him in new films.

I have always liked Jack Nicholson and will disappointed when he kicks the bucket too. He's getting old.

I wish Susan Sontag and Hannah Arendt were alive too though...so I'm not the best to speak to about these things.


I am with you. I liked the Heath Ledger that I have seen acting out characters on a screen. A limited view of who he probably was as a person, but I liked it, nonetheless. All of us limit the amount of ourselves that we present to the world.
Cicero • Jan 23, 2008 1:45 pm
The point being: I won't get to use those brokeback jokes with my husband anymore...which sucks because that usually got under his skin pretty well.

I nicknamed my husband "Brokeback _his name______"

It was good while it lasted....
:)
kerosene • Jan 23, 2008 2:36 pm
I never saw Brokeback. But I loved HL in A Knights Tale.
TheMercenary • Jan 23, 2008 3:19 pm
HungLikeJesus;426443 wrote:
I'm not dead.

I'm getting better.

I feel fine.

I think I'll go for a walk.

I feel happy. I feel happy.

Monty Python!
shina • Jan 23, 2008 3:19 pm
Truly sad. I think he was a fine actor. I too really enjoyed 'A Knight's Tale'.
TheMercenary • Jan 23, 2008 3:20 pm
Cicero;426606 wrote:
The point being: I won't get to use those brokeback jokes with my husband anymore...which sucks because that usually got under his skin pretty well.

I nicknamed my husband "Brokeback _his name______"

It was good while it lasted....
:)


There are a lot of good ones out there!
Clodfobble • Jan 23, 2008 3:41 pm
They'll just have be necrophiliac brokeback jokes now, that's all.
TheMercenary • Jan 23, 2008 3:50 pm
Clodfobble;426635 wrote:
They'll just have be necrophiliac brokeback jokes now, that's all.


You're dead on there. :D
DucksNuts • Jan 23, 2008 5:00 pm
About lunchtime yesterday the *amusing* txt messages started hitting my phone....

"Did you hear Heath Ledger died? Apparently he did one too many cowboys"
Radar • Jan 23, 2008 5:56 pm
<hears the sounds of crickets>
Radar • Jan 23, 2008 6:25 pm
No drugs were found at his apartment, but the police did find a rolled up $20 bill.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8055673
DucksNuts • Jan 23, 2008 6:59 pm
Thats about what I did.
Flint • Jan 24, 2008 1:33 pm
thanks UT
Cloud • Jan 24, 2008 1:54 pm
definitely spam. quite sad, indeed
bbro • Jan 24, 2008 2:21 pm
Spam - he has surf to find in every post he has made
piercehawkeye45 • Jan 24, 2008 2:43 pm
I don't know if this is true or not but I heard that the church that started godhatesfags.com are going to protest his funeral because of his role in Brokeback Mountain.

Fuckin' idiots if it is true.
BigV • Jan 24, 2008 4:07 pm
piercehawkeye45;426921 wrote:
snip--
Fuckin' idiots, true.

Corrected your post. No problemo.
Happy Monkey • Jan 24, 2008 4:12 pm
True.

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Flint • Jan 24, 2008 4:19 pm
I love how they skip around to form a sentence. Apparently, that's how they read the Bible, as well: just flipping to random pages and picking a few words here, a few words there, and hoping that an idea will form. The result of such a reading technique is that this amazing book will support any preconceived notion you were hoping to have reinforced!

I read the Bible and it told me that free weights are better than machines. Case closed. God hates circuit trainers.
lumberjim • Jan 24, 2008 4:35 pm
i wasn't watching the news yesterday, but jinx was saying that they are going to great pains to make this seem like an accidental overdose.
binky • Jan 24, 2008 4:43 pm
I read that too
binky • Jan 24, 2008 4:48 pm
Happy Monkey;426942 wrote:
True.

Image


So, even God saw "Brokeback Mountain"??
Cloud • Jan 24, 2008 5:12 pm
maybe Hollywood will shut him down. someone sure needs to.
Cloud • Jan 24, 2008 5:13 pm
binky;426965 wrote:
So, even God saw "Brokeback Mountain"??


if he did, he cried for Ennis' soul; a man who never had a single speck of joy in his life, except for what he denied.
bluecuracao • Jan 24, 2008 5:28 pm
I don't think vomit would work as a seasoning, at all.
Aliantha • Jan 24, 2008 5:33 pm
lumberjim;426952 wrote:
i wasn't watching the news yesterday, but jinx was saying that they are going to great pains to make this seem like an accidental overdose.



Maybe it was accidental? Probably the only person who will ever really know is dead.

Let him rest in peace is what I think should happen now, and as for those religious idiots, all I can say is; fuck them right up the arse with a big fat knobbly stick.
piercehawkeye45 • Jan 24, 2008 5:33 pm
BigV;426941 wrote:
Corrected your post. No problemo.

Thank you.

I think we could even cut it down to fuckin' idiots if we wanted. Its not like they were rational before this...
Happy Monkey • Jan 24, 2008 5:34 pm
Apparently, one of the drugs he was on can make you do crazy stuff in your sleep. It would suck if he sleep-OD'd.
Shawnee123 • Jan 24, 2008 5:57 pm
He seemed like a pretty down to earth nice guy from what I've seen. First noticed him in "10 Things I Hate About You" a teeny flick which was actually a pretty cute modern day "Taming of the Shrew."

Hennyhoo, why shouldn't we at least think it's a damn shame? Fucking bleeding hearts, caring about the life of someone you've never met. Spit. Snort. Shoot.
HungLikeJesus • Jan 24, 2008 6:28 pm
Hey Shawnee, where have you been?
Giant Salamander • Jan 24, 2008 7:05 pm
I don't give much of a fecal smear about Ledger's death, other than the normal "it sucks when anyone dies, particularly when they are young and reek of great potential" reaction.
But the Westboro Baptist Cult has got me more than a bit pissy.
Brokeback Mountain may indeed have been a "tacky bucket of slime seasoned with vomit," but that's just because it was a pretentious, boring movie.
Gay people are awesome.
I know, because I see shimmering, golden awesomeness in the mirror every single day.

Bigots.
Radar • Jan 24, 2008 7:41 pm
It would be really awesome if a bunch of gay bikers showed up and kicked the shit out of them and actually broke their backs.
Aliantha • Jan 24, 2008 9:08 pm
The actual funeral is going to be here in Australia. Apparently there'll be a memorial service in the US. I highly doubt there'll be protesters at his funeral here.
ZenGum • Jan 24, 2008 9:16 pm
There's a fair chance there'll be gay bikers though ;)
Cicero • Jan 26, 2008 12:42 pm
Westboro Baptist Church
3701 SW 12 Street
Topeka, KS 66604
(785) 273-0325 (cell phone listed under Fred W. Phelps Sr.)
Elspode • Jan 26, 2008 3:39 pm
1) Fred Phelps and his "Church" are an abomination in the sight of God and Man.

2) I admire a lot of talented people, and mourn their passing. Often it is actors/actresses/musicians and other creative people. This is because the pleasure derived from their efforts is, for me, a thing apart and above the baseline of the deaths of other humans. This isn't because everyone else's life is less valuable, productive or important than that of a famous person. It is simply because I wasn't actively aware of that person's contributions to the All.

I acknowledge people who make an impact on my consciousness. Sometimes, those people aren't famous. The bottom line is, before I can acknowledge someone's passing, I do, at a minimum, need to be actively aware of them and what they were about.
Cicero • Jan 26, 2008 4:13 pm
Elspode;427484 wrote:
1) Fred Phelps and his "Church" are an abomination in the sight of God and Man.

2) I admire a lot of talented people, and mourn their passing. Often it is actors/actresses/musicians and other creative people. This is because the pleasure derived from their efforts is, for me, a thing apart and above the baseline of the deaths of other humans. This isn't because everyone else's life is less valuable, productive or important than that of a famous person. It is simply because I wasn't actively aware of that person's contributions to the All.

I acknowledge people who make an impact on my consciousness. Sometimes, those people aren't famous. The bottom line is, before I can acknowledge someone's passing, I do, at a minimum, need to be actively aware of them and what they were about.


Wow Elspode...That was very well said!!!

Bravo!!
:D
Urbane Guerrilla • Jan 28, 2008 12:05 am
Wot Cicero sed.
Sundae • Jan 28, 2008 9:39 am
I heard that it may in fact have been natural causes.
I hope so in that it may mean slightly less pain for those who loved him, and because it will probably piss off the WBC.
Flint • Jan 28, 2008 9:59 am
It bothers me that I'm supposed to care about this. I'll just leave it at that.
classicman • Jan 28, 2008 10:30 am
Flint - I bet you don't watch many of those "Entertainment" shows on TV either. Me neither. They glorify these people and make the public privvy to every minute detail in their lives. It makes some people feel "connected" to them and some think they actually knew them..... WHICH THEY DON'T!
Cicero • Jan 28, 2008 12:40 pm
Urbane Guerrilla;427724 wrote:
Wot Cicero sed.


Is there a problem.....? Your spelling seems to have digressed...rapidly....You can pm me if you are having issues.. I'm always willing to listen!
:)
shina • Jan 28, 2008 4:18 pm
Urbane Guerrilla;427724 wrote:
Wot Cicero sed.


Drinking again!?
Aliantha • Jan 28, 2008 5:46 pm
Since we had this lovely quasi journalist in another thread relating to Australians, I thought you might like to see her in action with Mr Phelps. I actually saw the interview on tv and was amazed that Mr Phelps could go on Australian tv and make some of the stupid statements he did. Anyway, enjoy.

[youtube]AMdpfjSyW_8[/youtube]
Elspode • Jan 28, 2008 8:35 pm
Sundae Girl;427757 wrote:
I heard that it may in fact have been natural causes.
I hope so in that it may mean slightly less pain for those who loved him, and because it will probably piss off the WBC.


WBC won't care *how* he died. They're just happy he's dead so they can thank God for dead actors who portrayed sympathetic homosexual cowboys.