Can ya spare some change mister?
UT you are not allowed to read this thread. Get out.
Hey all, thanks for taking the time to open the thread. You won't find any pictures of cute puppies or silly kittehs here. This is just a straightforward request/reminder that although we don't have to buy a membership to enjoy the cellar - it isn't free.
I know it is an expensive time of year with buying Christmas presents and all. (Trust me i know how expensive it is to mail a cock.) Let's just remember that UT is living in the same month we are so if we don't fill the tip jar, then he has that much less $$ to spend on those he loves.
So go back to the main page, scroll down to the tip jar, click on it, and drop whatever you can into it. Remember -it's the thought that counts, but it's the coin that pays the bills.
Thanks,
LOOKOUT!
What? Oh. you really need a picture to motivate you?
Here you go.
thanks for the reminder. done and done.
Done a few days ago, thanks for the nudge, though.
Mug donors I thank you all!
I must note that since there has been some confusion over mug status... no, it doesn't move after you donate. That'd be really awesome, but no, it depends on me reading my paypal account manually and raising it up. So it generally happens once a day.
Even then, your browser may actually cache the image, and show you the old image pre-mug-filling. It may take a day for the image to refresh. You can make that happen manually, but it's probably not worth it.
How do I set an alarm/reminder for myself to bump this thread monthly or to just hit the mug? Can we do that?
you could do that through your email classic, or else just note that at the first of the month, every month, the jar is 'less full'. Since you go into chat, if you click on the link at the bottom of the page, you can see where the tip mug is up to anyway.
i will personally bump this thread every month so long as it seems to have an effect.
I am no longer a Cellar tip-mug-virgin. I have made my first deposit.
Now I need a nap.
The mug is full for December... by the 7th. Thank you all!
UT, do you have to pay a fee for PayPal transactions, or do you get the full amount?
UT actually owns paypal. he founded it with the earnings he received from the cellar. don't tell anyone.
There is a fee involved, some percentage and like 0.35 per transaction.
So, percentage wise, you loose more from a small transaction (say $5) than from a large one.
so you're saying that to increase efficiency we should all tip in increments of $100?
I thought the mug had been filled for Dec?
It has, any further donations will go into January.
If things really go well and donors seem ready to fill the mug all the time, we can then expand. I would really like to improve the server, with a 2U system with a RAID and hot-swappable drives. The barebones version is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117060
One would add CPUs and drives to that and have a pretty nice colo setup. Six drives in a RAID mean that a dead drive doesn't take us off the air - ever. Right now, if we have a bad drive in the Cellar system, it's at least a day, maybe two to get there and replace/restore.
With something like that maybe we could add goodies, like image hosting for donors, cellar.org email accounts, who knows what people want.
that would be verrrrry cool!
We've filled the mug every month for the last 3 at least haven't we? That's got to be a record somewhere hasn't it?
I don't recall, but can you share the approximate minimum operating expenses required to fill the tip jar each month? Or better yet did you have a goal in mind to move to something better, a dollar amount per-month? I have no idea what it costs to do something like this.
The base number is $250. I pay $380/month to colocate* three systems with unmetered** bandwidth, and the Cellar is kinda-sorta one-and-a half of them. The systems themselves are about $1000 and depreciate over three years in theory. And there are various extras here and there; rack rails, a little hub, mileage to get to the colo, etc.
Google ads on IotD blog view take up some of the $250.
* colocate: putting servers in a rack in an internet provider's data center. This is typically done to get the best deal on bandwidth. The alternative is to get an expensive circuit to where the servers actually are.
** unmetered: it's rare for an internet provider to allow you to send/receive as much data as you can eat. Most plans come with a limitation. The Cellar kinda needs unlimited for the amount of traffic IotD and all the other images eat up. Even without IotD, we consume a ton of traffic here.
so you're saying that to increase efficiency we should all tip in increments of $100?
:chuckle:
Be prepared to register a considerable downturn due to rounding.
It has, any further donations will go into January.
If things really go well and donors seem ready to fill the mug all the time, we can then expand. I would really like to improve the server, with a 2U system with a RAID and hot-swappable drives. The barebones version is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117060
One would add CPUs and drives to that and have a pretty nice colo setup. Six drives in a RAID mean that a dead drive doesn't take us off the air - ever. Right now, if we have a bad drive in the Cellar system, it's at least a day, maybe two to get there and replace/restore.
With something like that maybe we could add goodies, like image hosting for donors, cellar.org email accounts, who knows what people want.
It sounds like you need to create a Cellar Xmas wish list, or have a Cellar pledge drive. It's for our own benefit, after all.
It sounds like you need to create a Cellar Xmas wish list, or have a Cellar pledge drive. It's for our own benefit, after all.
I think that would be a good idea. I would pledge $250 easily.
I would match TheMercenary's $25 pledge.
and to follow suit i personally guarantee that i will contribute 10% of HLJ's contribution.
i kind of feel bad about only pledging $2.50 though. i think we should aim higher. this should work:
Merc: $1000
HLJ: $100
L123: $10
Case: $1
still seems a bit low. would you be comfortable giving $5 case?
I really think that continuing donations are more important. This is only the third month of the Tip Mug filling and although it does so impressively, I do wonder what will happen when this initial burst of interest in it passes.
Until something breaks...
i think you have the right idea there UT. but in all honesty i would like to see you handle any monthly overages differently. rather than starting the next month with a credit already in the tip mug, just put it off to the side for future needs.
if you need $250 for the month and December produces $300 - then take that extra $50, set it aside for future needs and start on January 1st with the tip mug on $0. everyone here knows you aren't making a profit or running a scam, so i don't think anyone would have a problem with that. It's just that if you keep rolling the overage over, then the urgent reminder to tip becomes much less urgent.
IMO
I agree with lookout here. I don't think it's asking too much to fill it completely each month.
Realistically, even if the top 25 posters only contributed, that's only $10/month. I don't think that's too much is it?
I agree...I think this should be something that we bring back into the open every month to be sure your costs are covered, UT. If someone bumps this thread every month, I am sure to see it and I will donate whatever I can swing. After all, I get to post my paintings in the creativity thread and to do that anywhere else, I would have to pay (as I do, some places.)
Yes, put away the extra for months that maybe aren't so lucrative.
And what would be wrong with UT making a little profit? I mean, he puts a lot of time and effort toward this, anyway...more than some of us put toward working *looking towards self*.
If I tried to make it a money-making thing, it wouldn't make any money. I don't think this thing works if it's not community first. Plus, I would hate it if somebody accused me of operating in some way just to make more money from it.
personally i wouldn't have a problem with you receiving income for time spent working on the cellar or anything of the sort. that being said, i really respect that you do what you do because you enjoy the community. i think anyone who actually matters would agree that we all trust you not to skim from the register for lack of a better term. that is why i think it would be acceptable, even preferable for you to start each month at zero in the tip mug and pull any overages off the table so that you don't have to hit your personal checking account if one of your fancy dancy computer thingamabobs (technical jargon alert) needs to be replaced.
i said it before that i will personally bump this thread or place a reminder about the tip mug every month until i am told to stop by you or a moderator. who knows? maybe i'll think of some way to actually have fun with it. maybe i'll issue some challenges or figure out a way to turn it into a game. in fact, i hear LJ is going to donate a new nissan as a prize for a fund raising game we are having next month. *shhh, jinx doesn't know*
will it be right or left hand drive?
"Making money", "covering known expenses", "being able to cover unexpecteded but appropriate expenses by drawing on a reserve, built up by saving the suplus of the tips that exceed the monthly expenses"--these phrases are different how?
i'm sorry V, my brain isn't running at full speed so I don't really understand which direction your post is taking us. I'd like your view on this though. Do you agree that it would be a good idea to put extra tips into reserve for future repairs/needs, or do you see a downside to the idea that I missed?
Here is how I've processed this in my brain. UT in addition to being an allaround good guy is a bitchin bassist(and John Favreau impersonator, but i digress). IIRC he has been involved in several bands who play gigs and get paid for it. I think he is past the point in life of dreaming about landing a highly lucrative record deal and being a fixture on TRL... but making enough $$$ to break even and put a little off to the side for future equipment needs would seem to be a good goal. A self sustaining hobby.
I think the cellar is much like that. It is obvious UT gets great enjoyment from the cellar - as do we all. Having enough income generated to break even and pay for the necessary dodads seems like an admireable goal to me.
Anyway, that is how my brain works.
Oh, and i think it is important to remind anyone reading this that the cellar is not a pay for play environment. those that don't have the extra cash to tip really shouldn't - and shouldn't feel pressured or guilty if they are not able to do so. those that have the ability to tip and are so inclined, will.
You've nailed it sir. Self-sustaining hobby, that's what I think of both these endeavors...
And also, if I had to pay the whole Cellar bill myself, at this point in my life I would have to let it die. It's too much money for a hobby, and too much providing a free ride to folks, no matter how cool it really is.
Oh and there are no more lucrative record deals, the record industry is on life support and it looks like it is not going to pull through.
well, i don't know about anyone else since pretty much all my ties tot he industry at large and underground are cut, but the dudes in Fall Out Boy are doing quite well I can assure you.
The top 20 acts are in a somewhat different space, and will make more money from royalties, though even they do 5-6% fewer album sales every year since 2000.
yeah, and these kids are a bit different too. they were involved in the chicago, hardcore/straightedge scene for years before having a revelation. it was pretty linear really.
A) I need a job to get money.
B) I know the job won't be what I really want to do, but I need to do it.
C) If it isn't what I really want to do anyway, what's the harm in writing music that isn't what I like to listen to?
D) If I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it all the way.
Thus the birth of fall out boy. from day one it was designed to have create two things: decent music and GOOD money.
check and check.
their videos have included the old hard core faithful from chicago. they've shot them in the old clubs. they've used some of the money to support the scene. they continue to be involved in side projects that are closer to what they really like. the merchandise and products are theirs. they aren't getting raped like a lot of the young acts who stumble into success do.
l123, UT:
Sorry I was unclear. I didn't try very hard to explain my point. That point is this: I think it is right for UT to accept tips to cover expenses. Those expenses include regular expenses like the colo bill and the line charges as well as equipment, maintenance and upgrades. Without the gear, the whole concept is moot. Just because the equipment expenses are not as regular as a monthly phone bill does not mean they are not as important to pay.
UNFORTUNATELY they tend to be higher than the monthly phone bill.
FORTUNATELY they tend to be more infrequent.
UNFORTUNATELY the amount cannot be precisely known in advance.
FORTUNATELY the amount can be saved for.
So my point is the same as yours, l123. Collect the tips. Pay the bills. Save for the "not if, but when" expenses. One good way to do this is start the tip mug *empty* each month. It is an incentive to donate. I am more inclined to respond to the nag of an unfilled tip mug more than I am to a filled tip mug.
I'm not the biggest donor nor am I the biggest freeloader. I'm in the middle somewhere. It's easier for me to donate smaller amounts more frequently than it is for me to donate larger amounts less frequently. So I'm counting on UT to have saved for the big expenses, because I have less confidence in my ability to come through in the pinch with big bucks than I do in my ability to pay some as I go.
By the way, Thank You, Undertoad, very very much for making the cellar possible. My appreciation of your efforts exceeds by far my ability to pay or express. You have done a good thing here, and I am grateful.
The base number is $250. I pay $380/month to colocate* three systems with unmetered** bandwidth, and the Cellar is kinda-sorta one-and-a half of them. The systems themselves are about $1000 and depreciate over three years in theory. And there are various extras here and there; rack rails, a little hub, mileage to get to the colo, etc.
Google ads on IotD blog view take up some of the $250.
As I read it UT
is putting aside for the irregular expenses.
$160/m is for the hosting, so about $90/m is put aside as "depreciation" to replace thingamyfluzits that go fizz.
The man is a grown-up, after all.
ZG, how did you get $160?
From this:
I pay $380/month to colocate* three systems with unmetered** bandwidth, and the Cellar is kinda-sorta one-and-a half of them.
380 / 2 = 160
That's how I took this passage - that the cellar uses "one and a half" of three systems, and is thus responsible for half of the total cost of the three.
Dunno, you reckon I've misinterpreted it?
ZG, how did you get $160?
Selling my ass, naturally. :eek:
Sorry, my mistake.
I was using decimal (380/2 = 190).
Selling my ass, naturally. :eek:
A little girl goes in to a bank to deposit a big jar of nickels.
The teller says, "Oh my, little girl, did you hoard all these nickels yourself?"
And the little girls answers, "No. My sister whored half of them."
Guy sends his wife to the street corner because they need cash, badly.
She comes home with $2.10. Hubby says "What cheap bastard gave you a dime?"
"All of 'em" she responds.
Sorry, my mistake.
I was using decimal (380/2 = 190).
You know, I think you might be right there.
Foolishly, I was using a variable-base quasi-logarithmic alternating inverse-power factorialization system.
Decimal would probably have been better. :dunce:
Well much of the cost of the last server was borne by an anonymous Cellar benefactor, but not all of it... nor actually has the Mug produced a surplus for a long time. I just wanted to set the correct place for the mug's 100% level. Anyhoo, it's great that there is now a building surplus fund that will go towards the next failure or the next expansion, whichever comes first. I have ordered four sticks of rather expensive 1GB ECC memory to install into the current server, to try to solve the problem where we basically go offline when we get Farked or Reddited or Dugg.
Ok, I just sent $100. I'm in. I think it would be helpful to make the jar amount larger so the thing does not fill up to quickly; as others have said, I might be more motivated to put some in if I see it is low or empty. Thanks for all you do UT.
And thanks to you and to all Mug hitters. I have not been thanking you all individually, partly because of the volume this Xmas season, and partly because, well you know, I suck. But I am thankful and all should be thankful for everyone's support in keeping the community thriving.
As you know, you guys rock.
I'd really like to know if it's the same people who donate each month, or if there are different people. I don't need to know names, but I just wondered if there's a trend developing or if there's different people helping out.
Thank you sir Bruce - January is done for me.
Eh hem, uh that tip mug thing is looking pretty empty. ;)
*shakes head* have to wait til end of month for student finance cheque to hit my bank :P
Okay did my thing for January
K....I made a woefully small contribution on account of me bein po'......i get my student loan cheque and by time it arrives all bar £100 is spoken for :P I will try to do another payment when I get my monthly wage !
December was so well funded that I decided to hold off until January when some folks would be freaking out about their post-Christmas credit card bills, and I could help fill the gap.
I had never used pay-pal before. I thought it would be complicated. Meh, the things you learn in the cellar.
I'm just wondering about the use of the delivery address. Are they going to leave the cellar under my mat?
K....I made a woefully small contribution on account of me bein po'......i get my student loan cheque and by time it arrives all bar £100 is spoken for :P I will try to do another payment when I get my monthly wage !
Don't worry about it Dana, you're contribution is much larger than you think.
HEY BITCHES! Fill the Mug you bastards.... :biggrinha
er. . . you seem to be a bit gender confused there, Merc!
heehee
er. . . you seem to be a bit gender confused there, Merc!
heehee
why? bastard is not gender-specific, is it?
oh, I guess not. But I do tend to think of men when I think of bastards. :D
are you getting arsey about my spelling? :lol:
(Rs -ey -geddit? *groan* .....nm) ;)
Thanks to all that peed in the cup. This is what, the third month in a row?That's very good this time of the year, when there are extra strains on everyone's purses.
Hopefully, in the future, we can keep UT's nose slightly above water, but I'd like to stress one point. If you can help, great, but if you can't, it doesn't make you any less welcome. Keeping the costs covered is only part of the future Cellar success. Even more important is contributing your thoughts, opinions, stories.... lives.
Oh, and despite Lumberjim's trepidations, lurkers are cool. Y'all come back now, y'heah!
Thanks to all that peed in the cup. This is what, the third month in a row?That's very good this time of the year, when there are extra strains on everyone's purses.
Hopefully, in the future, we can keep UT's nose slightly above water, ...
Whether or not it was intentional, that's an interesting conjunction.
If you can help, great, but if you can't, it doesn't make you any less welcome. Keeping the costs covered is only part of the future Cellar success. Even more important is contributing your thoughts, opinions, stories.... lives.
I felt that was important enough to be read again.
oh and hi from disney, or Knott's Berry, or the Home Depot Center...where the hell am I again?
It's February!
Shock and awe, baby.
You'll be sore in the morning, trust me.
February has officially begun...for me anyway.
Good morning, Undertoad.
I noticed that the mug was full, then empty, then full, then partly full this month.... Is the current level more or less "right"? Just curious.
Oh yeah.
[SIZE="4"][COLOR="Purple"]BUMP![/COLOR][/SIZE]
I think there's a leak in the cup.
It sits at 40%, I'm sure caching is the reason for the oft-changing mug status.
Is it 40% full, or 40% empty?
Since the month is about 40% over and the mug is 40% full, does that mean funding is on track?
It's also the 16th already.
I dropped some in it. I am not sure if it is registering though.
I did too, yesterday, so maybe it takes a while to show up
I usually get to adjusting the mug within 12 hours; if it hasn't adjusted it means the older version of the image is in your browser cache. Sometimes refreshing the page will update it.
It's not at zero right now, it's at 20%... here is 0:

Looks full from my perspective. I'm certain my contribution didn't put it over the top, but I did do my part. I have refreshed the page. The level displayed isn't that important to me anymore.
Thanks for the cellar, Undertoad.
It's the Ides of March and long way to the top.
Just the dregs in the mug according to my view
It seems to me that maybe the regular people who contribute might be wondering when some of the others might like to contribute. I for one can't this month, but I'm sure there are plenty of others out there who could put a few coins in.
What, you want my charm, and money too? :eek:
ali, you want like....an online ledger? so you can see who gave what, and when?
No. Just trying to guilt some of the non contributors into getting involved. What else is this thread for?
I think we all know who you are.
Hand-to-mouth post-grad student here. If I get the highly paid [Deloitte|Accenture|PwC|foobar] consulting gig they're trying to aim me at after I finish, then I'll be able and willing to contribute a 50-gallon drum of high-quality beans :P
Sorry I was late. Not the best of months for me. :(
Dudes, this site maybe USA-based, but it is very international. I would love it if we could try and adopt a more international philosophy about charitble donations. Don't "guilt people", just remind them the option is there. Don't explain yourself if you can't donate right now -there's no need, we love you regardless. It's actually better to tip big occasionally than a a small amount on a regular bais because there is a processing charge per transaction.
Just be yourself, and when something you read here touches you, remember that that post was sponsored by posters like you ;)
Well either people did feel guilty or they just noticed the reminder, but the tip jar is substantially fuller now than it was before.
I don't really care what motivates people, as long as they do what they know is right.
. It's actually better to tip big occasionally than a a small amount on a regular bais because there is a processing charge per transaction.
sez you. i set my credit union's bill payer feature to automatically mail a check from jinx and i every month. I don't know if it's big or small, but it never forgets. tony DOES have to get off his ass and go deposit them, however.
sez you. i set my credit union's bill payer feature to automatically mail a check from jinx and i every month. I don't know if it's big or small, but it never forgets. tony DOES have to get off his ass and go deposit them, however.
checks is a hole diffrent kettle of fish. most peeps use paypal, howeverz.
sez you. i set my credit union's bill payer feature to automatically mail a check from jinx and i every month. I don't know if it's big or small, but it never forgets. tony DOES have to get off his ass and go deposit them, however.
So here the chargw is Tony going to the bank. Better every month or less often if overall income is the same? ;)
The month of March, and the tip mug, seem to be running neck and neck. :eek:
Ooh, coming down to the wire. Will this month be the first failure?
Oughta get a feature that when you mouse over the mug, it shows how much you need to fill it the rest of the way in one of those little popup mouse box thingies :D
Oughta get a feature that when you mouse over the mug, it shows how much you need to fill it the rest of the way in one of those little popup mouse box thingies :D
Or maybe it would show who has not contributed. :lol:
Please someone do it! I would, but I'm still paying for the divorce - C'mon peeps - someone kick it in!
please?
Last chance to save March.
Is it really totally up-to-date? How much are we short by, Mr Toad?
Scratch, $25 was sent just as I posted my message. We are at 100%. Thanks to everybody!!
it empties out at the beginning of each month? I did not know that.
"Full" is the monthly costs to run the server, basically letting UT break even.
And here we go, new month, new mug.
Half way through the month, it looks like the mug is behind. :(
I already did & done :( we need some old rich guy/gal to leave the tipjar in their will.
Not looking good.:headshake
tax refunds are just arriving......
How much are we down? Is the mug half full?
Okay I gave the mug a second shot. Time to pony up people.
At least we had a couple of overflowing months. April is a hard time for many people :(
Yeah, Easter is a killer.
Hardly overflowing, just covering costs. Nobody's getting rich here, except the people gaining knowledge, receiving help and support, escaping from the world for a few precious minutes and of course T & A.
Hardly overflowing, just covering costs. Nobody's getting rich here, except the people gaining knowledge, receiving help and support, escaping from the world for a few precious minutes and of course T & A.
If it goes beyong the tops it overflows. Therefore, overflowing. Who claimed anyone was getting rich? I was merely expressing that April is a tough month for many -presumably also for those who provide wonderful internet services. Those who are not able to contribute -maybe for the first month in a while- should not be made to feel bad about it. And those who are a little better off or who have perhaps not donated yet might like to take this opportunity to fill the gap.
Sheesh, can't even express sympathy about tough financial times on here without someone getting snippy. :(
Sheesh, can't even express the reality of the tip mug on here without someone getting snippy. :smack:
$10 penalty to both of you...Hows that?
how about Bullying Bruce pays for both of us if he's so damn flush as to not realise how tough some people have it right now? What happened to the "we don't want to make people feel bad about not paying up if it's tough for them, we value their input more than their money...." Did all that evaporate with the new year's hangover? Is it time to name and shame those who have never contributed?
Over to you for the awesome last witty word, Bruce -I am out of this thread for a bit, it's turned from something good into an unpleasant nag.
Bullying? Bullying whom? I said nothing to you or about your post, other than correcting your impression that the tip jar overflows. Anything over the top shows up in the next month, so there is no excess.
If it's under for one month, does that carry over too? Or does that come right out of UT's pocket?
Like everyone, the bills come due, ready or not.
how about Bullying Bruce pays for both of us if he's so damn flush as to not realise how tough some people have it right now? What happened to the "we don't want to make people feel bad about not paying up if it's tough for them, we value their input more than their money...." Did all that evaporate with the new year's hangover? Is it time to name and shame those who have never contributed?
Over to you for the awesome last witty word, Bruce -I am out of this thread for a bit, it's turned from something good into an unpleasant nag.
Seriously? calm the fuck down monster.
xob, I feel v., v. guilty.
I pledge 25.00 May 4th. Next time I get paid.
I don't see anything in Bruce's posts to contradict the longstanding statement that there is no need to feel guilty if you don't have it to give. This is not a shame campaign.
No, no guilty. Everybody should do what they can, but certainly not feel guilty if they can't.
Hardly overflowing, just covering costs. Nobody's getting rich here, except the people gaining knowledge, receiving help and support, escaping from the world for a few precious minutes and of course T & A.
this is what I was referring to.
Next month will be a better month to give anyway. I have a new tip mug planned.
Can you set it up to show actual dollars required to fill?
how about Bullying Bruce pays for both of us if he's so damn flush as to not realise how tough some people have it right now? What happened to the "we don't want to make people feel bad about not paying up if it's tough for them, we value their input more than their money...." Did all that evaporate with the new year's hangover? Is it time to name and shame those who have never contributed?
Over to you for the awesome last witty word, Bruce -I am out of this thread for a bit, it's turned from something good into an unpleasant nag.
Protest-th too muchth?
The full amount is $200. "you do the math"
this is what I was referring to.
Well isn't what it's all about? Enriching each others lives?
The money thing is just a necessary evil to keep things going, like most things in this world. Even if we all met in a field, there would still be booze and condoms to pay for. ;)
Some people can help, some can't, some people can but choose not to. But, nobody needs to make any excuses and nobody needs to feel guilty. I can assure you even with no donations, the Cellar will not expire as long as people participate.
I love the new RealMug! :yum:
Sooo....is the froth the top or the amber gold?
I think it works like a long term relationship
You seem to pay more and more, but get less and less head
Figure on averaging the liquid and foam. But at 60% the foam died a lot whilst I was upstairs fetching a second bottle. This is a very large mug.
Sweet new mug! Noticed it yesterday!
UT you are not allowed to read this thread. Get out.
Hey all, thanks for taking the time to open the thread. You won't find any pictures of cute puppies or silly kittehs here. This is just a straightforward request/reminder that although we don't have to buy a membership to enjoy the cellar - it isn't free.
I know it is an expensive time of year with buying Christmas presents and all. (Trust me i know how expensive it is to mail a cock.) Let's just remember that UT is living in the same month we are so if we don't fill the tip jar, then he has that much less $$ to spend on those he loves.
So go back to the main page, scroll down to the tip jar, click on it, and drop whatever you can into it. Remember -it's the thought that counts, but it's the coin that pays the bills.
Thanks,
LOOKOUT!
What? Oh. you really need a picture to motivate you?
Here you go.
This is done.
In the
Underwater Photography thread I offered to donate a brand-new, never used, underwater camera to someone if they will contribute to the tip mug in exchange. Perhaps this can be a new business model for (partial) funding of the Cellar?
I added my bottle to the Mug. The rest of you slugs contribute, UT needs a full beer each month just to get up in the morning.
how come it's not the new mug anymore? (confused)
Cause we drank out of it last month so it's "newness" has been drained. Drink up. :guinness: :D
The RealMug is a success, thanks to all donors and readers and participants in any way! We are at 80%, if we go to 100% I'll post all eleven images, (0,10,20,... to 100)
Oh yeh and then we can figure out what should be the next RealMug images.
nothing nekkid tho
My paypals all fucked. Apparently some bastard hacked my account and its limited and the dumb floggbagidiots cant get it off limited.
I could do a series of a graduated cylindar, with some pretty colored water and spooky dry ice steam. . .
Or a syringe, mwa ha h aha!1!1
If it goes beyond 100% will the beer spill over and drip on my keyboard?
no, silly, you are suppose to sip it off the top before it hits the keyboard.
Tongue prints on the screen drive me nuts.
Using a straw on my keyboard makes me feel the same. Especially as my beer then has biscuit crumbs in it.
cough [SIZE="1"]bump[/SIZE] cough
My eagle won't fly again until July...
o hey the mug is at 100% and has been for a while. case commission money put it way up early! So wait another 8 days when the mug empties.
Oh, sorry. Thought it was mostly full. :blush:
OK, now I'm sure it's mostly empty. ;)
Obama says he'll give us change.
This is done.
Sorry for the delay.
I'm in - and happy to do so.
Bump... not hard enough to spill the beer, though.;)
But I hit it pretty hard.
Not you, I bumped the thread gently, so as not to make a mess and cause the barmaid to take me out back and spank me.
Oh wait, no, I screwed up.:o
Ooh! I'm the barmaid!
Does that mean I get to spank you?
Oh no, wait. You were gentle.
Don't be so careful next time, huh ;)
C'mon put yer money where your mouth... err keyboard is. Something like that
tap tap tip tip top top up up
mission accomplished, sir.
Damn, half way through the month already. :eek:
I think the mug is bigger...:(
certainly the half empty part is bigger.
A generous soul has single-handedly pushed the mug to 80%. In recent months it is various generous souls who push the mug near the end of the month. Thank you all.
100% and into 30% next month. Thanks again!
If the mug looks low to you now it's because you're seeing the cached version; hit F5 to reload the page and you'll probably get the latest.
Come on you wankers! contrbute. I gave my $10, now give yours!
Come on you wankers! contrbute. I gave my $10, now give yours!
I don't think that's how it should work.
I don't think that's how it should work.
Ok, how should it work? :D
Ok, how should it work? :D
First you need to find out their dirty little secrets...
Come on you wankers! contrbute. I gave my $10, now give yours!
I'm thinking UT doesn't want it filled by wankers.....
I'm thinking UT doesn't want it filled by wankers.....
Hmmmmm.... I guess you have a point, could get messy.
I thought that's what the foam was?
Ok, fuck you all I am giving my 2cents. How about you?
mines done, but UT was talking bout some new equipment - mebbe we need to step it up a bit. I'll see whats left at the end of the month. Had some unexpected car repairs this month. Well maintenance really.
Why yes, yes it is. Thanks to all once again, the mug has made goal 9 months running.
Do you normally pay people to be friends with you?
My personal policy is to keep donations secret so that nobody is judged on that basis.
You can only pay UT, and he does what we tell him. :haha:
The cellar is a slut but not a whore.
The Cellar is a nymphomaniac with a heart of pure copper.
My personal policy is to keep donations secret so that nobody is judged on that basis.
Indeed. I believe it is a good policy.
I post here not to draw attention to *my* donation, but to draw attention to the need for donations.
That's the policy, except I must break it to point out that Radar has never given one thin dime.
In fact he started a heated email debate with me to say he wasn't going to give because I was running it wrong and too expensively.
That's a bannable offense to me, but as usual - you have a much cooler demeanor than I.
Thanks again for all you do.
I haven't given anything but I plan to. I would send cash but I don't know where to send it.
Is there another way to send a donation ?
Anyone who would like my personal address to donate, please PM.
So how we doing Great Toad?
Good! Ask again next week.
The Cellar is a nymphomaniac with a heart of pure copper.
satisfied with pennies?
As an additional incentive: once the mug is filled this month, I will use the proceeds to refresh our license for vBulletin ($180) so that we can upgrade to the latest version.
the mug is looking pretty puny so far
the mug is looking pretty puny so far
?? 2/3 full halfway through the month...
wow. I must have been looking at a cached pic or something. I swear when I posted that it was down to less than 1/4.
good!
Only a couple days left, will we make it? :confused:
I was only able to bang in $15 I'm afraid. Bit shit after several months of no contribution, but best i can do.
I just now dropped in what I could afford. I've been really lax for awhile now. Sorry.
OK. I tipped. But I expect a happy finish next time! ;-)
:D
Nice going y'all! It's $35 more to fill completely.
Did my part. I'm in. I hope it helps Tony reach his goals unfettered. The Merc.
There ya go! Thanks Merc and everybody! We will be moving to the latest vBulletin version very soon now, after a short planning phase.
Hooray for Undertoad! yey.
Not only has it been a long time since I dropped coin into the tip mug, but its been a long time since I said "thanks, UT."
I don't know what I'd do without The Cellar. Probably end up in a clock tower somewhere with a high powered rifle. Either that, or voting Republican.
Ah, but you repeat yourself.
bump.
The month half over - perhaps this got lost with the election and all.
Tithe shall be sent Monday, barring accidents.
Done! Pocket change, but as Benjamin Franklin said, "A penny saved is a penny earned."
Which bit are we actually looking at, the top of the foam or where the foam meets the beer?
bump.
The month half over - perhaps this got lost with the election and all.
It's the economy. I blame a Bush-Obama Conspiracy. Really..
Did you take all those photos yourself?
And did you take them in that order?
Or maybe in reverse order, as the beer got consumed?
Well, my thinking was: pour a full glass, drink 90%; pour another full glass, drink 80%; pour another full glass, drink 70% hic; poor a fool glasss, drink Shixty percent; pour a fully grass, Drinkie fif-fif-fifty pershent; four a pool gass, drinkie-winkie fourty-worty persomething; floor a pool lass, mop floor, drink rest of bottle; ah, yer me best bloody mate, have another beer, eh....
We're due, but we just got a $600 car repair and two weeks enforced unpaid vacation. A Christmas bonus for atheists :lol:
it will come, but not this week, sorry.
Good attitude monster - hope it all works out










Let me see if I understand how this works.
I go to the bottom of the page, look at the tip mug and compare it to this set of images. To me it looks like the third one, which I figure means "20 to 30% full."
I don't remember the dollar amount equal to 100% - something like $300, I think, which means each increment is about $30.
I click on the mug, log in to PayPal, enter an amount, and it's done.
That was easy.
*Reload*
Hey, the picture didn't change! I guess I didn't put in enough pennies.
UT still has to change the picture manually, IIRC.
There must have been a backlog. Now it looks full.
There was a large donation.
Is it full now?
Did we cover the entire year? I wasn't sure if we were a tad under in November.
Remember folks, UT is presently between jobs so we had better cover this.
It's like $20 down right now. Thanks!
Everybody has covered well, better than expected in fact. It was a long time absorbing the expenses before I put up the mug, but no worries. The Google ads on the IotD did better then. Nowadays it only makes about $25/month.
Making a 2 month contribution. My 2 cents worth. Thanks UT for all you do. The Merc.
I hope this helps, Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you and everyone.
Middle of the month and seem to be on target for a photo finish. Go us.
Dwellars continue to amaze me, month after month I had thought that we would find the dips in the picture, after buying the car especially I thought people would be "donated out". But we made 100% again. It's due to y'all that we continue to survive and thrive. Thanks.
Now when are the classes to figure out all this new stuff we have? I didn't see a manual or instructions anywhere? doh'
Thanks again Tony.
My donations are tax deductable, right? hehehehe
Yes, the gummint will allow you to donate about $250 without documentation.
Tax people I knew called it the "$5 a week in the church plate" loophole.
Yes, the gummint will allow you to donate about $250 without documentation.
Tax people I knew called it the "$5 a week in the church plate" loophole.
Well if this is a church, shouldn't I be on my knees? Oh, wait! Never mind.
Join the queue Shel, shuffle forward.
Just not too close behind the person in front, ok Shel?
Just not too close behind the person in front, ok Shel?
What makes you think I have to be close? ;)
the mug looks a little thirsty there....
Half way through the month.
I just put ice in the glass. :D
I just put ice in the glass. :D
is that what they're calling it these days?
is that what they're calling it these days?
Yup. Nothin' better than a nice piece of ice.
It's all about sheets of ice here.
btw, sheldon, what would it take in the tip jar to get you to post appropriately in the dwellar NSFW thread? Ive heard that enquiring minds want to know......... ;)
It's all about sheets of ice here.
btw, sheldon, what would it take in the tip jar to get you to post appropriately in the dwellar NSFW thread? Ive heard that enquiring minds want to know......... ;)
A working digicam and a visit from Ibram. hehehe
Ohohoh... they're coming down the 4 day home stretch... the crowd is on their feet... April 30th and rim-'o-mug... neck and neck... will the streak continue?... will the members come through?... :mg:
This is done - sorry it took so long - not a good month for me monetarily.
Sorry guys. I couldn't do anything this month. I broke my bank account buying mum an i-pod nano for her birthday. So....on the plus side MamaC is buzzing :P
Ya did it, 100% for the 12th month in a row.
that's just coz we luvs ya :p
And the winner is........................... Beetlebomb. :grouphug:
And the winner is........................... Beetlebomb. :grouphug:
:lol: Nearly forgot about ol' Beetlebomb!
Who's Beetlebomb?
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Just a little ol' bump.....I'll do my part if you do yours.....
Half way through the month. :eek:
ugghhh
I am done - thanks for the reminder... again
Just a little ol' bump.....I'll do my part if you do yours.....
How about we do that the other way around? You do my part and ...
IIRC, every transaction has a flat rate cost, so we do better to make large hits occasionally, rather than small regular hits. Is that right?
They take 0.30 plus 2.9%.
If you give over $3000 they only take 2.5%, and over $10000 they only take 2.2% so the best bet is to hold your donations until you have $3000 to give, or $10000 if you want a Cellar Gold account.
Gave what I could but if you want 10,000.00 there had better be MANY "happy endings"! hehehehe
The mug looks like about 7/10 full going into the final week of May... or May-not.
Only able to drop a few coins in the cup this time, I'm afraid. My last student cheque is almost spent and I have yet to pay for gown hire and what have you for graduation.... I probably could have bought slightly fewer Doctor Who audio plays and books...but I have a sickness.
No need for you, or anyone else, to apologize. If everyone does what they can, when they can, it's cool. :hug:
Yeah...I don't think there's too many who tip every single month. We all just do it when we can, and as much as we can. Sometimes the tip jar here just isn't a priority, but that's the way life goes. I'm sure UT understands.
They take 0.30 plus 2.9%.
the best bet is to hold your donations until you have $3000 to give, or $10000 if you want a Cellar Gold account.
See what ya did? Now everyone is holdin out till they have $3000.
Or $10000, if they want a Cellar Gold account.
At my current rate , it would take me 10 years to do that. For a gold, I'll be well retired.
Whats the status here this month? Looks like we are close but not quite there. Only two days left...
Not a whole lot, but best I could do right now.
Enough to push the mug to 100%. Thanks again everyone.
Eh, looks a little parched here.
Partially my fault. I have a donation from beauregaardhooligan I've been slow getting to UT.:o
Wow, the 24th already... less than a week to go. :eek:
UT our check was actually put in the mail yesterday (I know I said Saturday... but I've had a nasty nasty tummy bug)... should be there in the next few days.
Liar, liar , pants on fire! I saw us just put it in the mailbox yesterday!
But she hasn't been feeling well, so poor dear doesn't know what she's saying.
Looks like 70%, coming down to the wire. :unsure:
Done. BTW, what IS the monthly cost for the Cellar?
Mug is full.
$250/month is the base cost although sometimes there is a Google payment from the ads on the iotd, which lowers it.
Good to know. Thanks. :-)
Liar, liar , pants on fire! I saw us just put it in the mailbox yesterday!
But she hasn't been feeling well, so poor dear doesn't know what she's saying.
I coulda sworn we mailed it while out driving the kids to sleep... but that must have been the fever induced dream...
July 15th, half way through the month, half way through the Memorial Day to Labor Day summer, and the days are getting noticeably shorter. Better start gathering those 'round tuits.
I'll start this show. Done. C'mon folks! Let's help Tony out.
I'm wondering if he added my donation this month to the tip jar. It doesn't look like it, but I know he's got it!
Getting close to the end of the month... It just occurred to me that my personal donation strategy during these times when I'm hard on cash might be something others hadn't thought of.
In the IOTD
blog view, there are some *ahem* special image links on the left hand side for the purposes of spreading information to the masses on certain retail products. It wasn't until I had my own website that I realized just how much of a windfall a single mouse action could provide. Anywhere from half a soda to burger, you know what I'm saying? If you flood the thing with attention, it's smart enough to mark them as fraudulent, and that's no good at all. But I find these retail products to be pertinent to my interests maybe once every few days, myself.
The fields for cc payment aren't taking entries. You try to type in information and nothing shows up?
I don't know. I tried changing country to Botswana, and I could enter information UNTIL it updated the page from the country entry, then, nothing. Changed it back. Nothing. Put an amount in first, then last. Nothing.
I've paid other things online today with no problem. Very odd.
This is done. Sorry for the delay.
Think nothing of it, we've still got 5 days to go. :)
I'm ready to see the mug get at least a swallow in it. That foam at the bottom looks lonely.
It's at 40% - you might have to hit F5 to reload the mug --
Come on, folks, let's fill this thing.
I won't be able to give this month. My money has gone for my vacation to see my family in NJ. :-(
We'll be in next month -along with the $$ for reg Joe's care package. We opt for the bigger less frequent donations to minimize processing fees. Hope this is working OK
It's a nail biter. Two days to go. Where's Beetlebaum? ;)
Did you get mine UT? looks like all thats in the mug is backwash - ewwww
5 days left and I think it's still 10%. :(
Yeah, we all wait til the end of the month to see if anyone else was feeling generous/guilty that month, before wringing out our wallets/purses.
Does first part of the month/last part of the month matter?
Half way through the month. :idea:
The drinks are on the house!!! :-D
The drinks are on the house!!! :-D
does it have a flat roof? :eek:
does it have a flat roof? :eek:
Don't most flats have a roof?
Don't most drinks have a roofie?
The ones with the little umbrellas.
Don't most drinks have a roofie?
OMG I could soooooo go for a roofie right now...
I don't even know what that is. I always thought everyone was saying "ruthie."
What is it?
date rape drug. horse tranq.
not really a horse tranq. Rohypnol. CNS depressant but is meant for hoomans.
date rape drug = party favor
PotAto = PotAHto
:D
I'll see your date rape and raise you a rape without the date.
I'll see your date rape and raise you a rape without the date.
That's impolite!
But a lower carbon footprint.
You know what? I hate those kids that come round with their "Trick-or-treat for Unicef" boxes wanting cash on Halloween. It's supposed to be a healthy and PC alternative to all that candy with razor blades in, but the fuckers always want candy too. Two candiess in fact, for being so awesome and collecting for charity.
So I'm going to tell them I'm donating to teh cellar instead. $1 for each of the fuckers. Anyone else in?
You know what? I hate those kids that come round with their "Trick-or-treat for Unicef" boxes wanting cash on Halloween. It's supposed to be a healthy and PC alternative to all that candy with razor blades in, but the fuckers always want candy too. Two candiess in fact, for being so awesome and collecting for charity.
So I'm going to tell them I'm donating to teh cellar instead. $1 for each of the fuckers. Anyone else in?
We could just punch the fuckers and take the money boxes and give THAT to the Cellar. :D
Most of them are prolly packing spoon/fork/knives anyway. Be afraid.
Most of them are prolly packing spoon/fork/knives anyway. Be afraid.
Be careful of the ones with sporks. Those'll give you a nasty scratch.
Mr Spork will give you the vulcan death scratch
Half way through the month and showing progress. :thumbsup:
Well the first 20% was overflow from last month...!
Hmmm, 20% head start, and it's the 24th already... not lookin' good. :(
plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is. Looking much better, thank you! :D
Yes it's full. Thanks to everybody!
You know what? I hate those kids that come round with their "Trick-or-treat for Unicef" boxes wanting cash on Halloween. It's supposed to be a healthy and PC alternative to all that candy with razor blades in, but the fuckers always want candy too. Two candiess in fact, for being so awesome and collecting for charity.
So I'm going to tell them I'm donating to teh cellar instead. $1 for each of the fuckers. Anyone else in?
Guess what? Not a single one in 150ish visitors! Guess I'll have to make a regular donation :lol:
OK Thanksgiving Day and I appeciate the cellar, so here comes the "tip". [COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]There are only 4 days of Nov left, btw. [/COLOR]
Mug is full. Thanks friends!
You're more than welcome UT.
Ok, peeps, shake yourselves down. The cellar needs a stimulus package.
Oh BTW, did the server move lead to any reduction in our budget requirement?
ETA why does it jump from post 387 to 390? Are 388 and 389 in hock?
Thanks for the reminder Zen:)
Yes -- the server move reduced the costs marginally, even as it improved the entire setup.
The tip mug is OVERFULL. Thank you all again!
You should take the excess and send an urchin to buy the biggest turkey in all of London!
Or pay foreword, and just roast the urchin.
Or pay foreword, and just roast the urchin.
I love roast turchin!
but what to have on the side?
"some fava beans and a nice Chianti." :xmashat:
Totally off topic:
Monster, In BC, UNICEF discontinued their door to door donations a few years ago. My son would ask for either/or, not both. He would say Trick or Treat, or would you rather donate to UNICEF? most times they would give both. The last two years he was not collecting candy, just taking younger kids out, so he just did the donation boxes. UNICEF claimed it cost more to collect and count the change then was worth it..... my kidlet was disappointed, cause he really thought he was helping with a good cause.
Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.... but I don't like iy anyway. bah humbat! :lol:
I have made my final contribution for 09. Thanks Tony, Bruce, and Wolf.
January is almost complete. Thank you all.
January was almost complete a month ago, but isn't yet??
We did not complete January. Bump?
I'm in;)
January was always likely to be the slow month: everybody's skint after Chrimbo lol.
thankee!
Yes I am always surprised, because people seem to fill the mug quickly in December. I spose they are making their Xmas gift to the Cellar.
And it's started off almost full with the overflow so everyone was lulled into a false sense of security
Well, it's the 16th... in a short month.
I know I'm overdue - I'll try tonight - err check that tomorrow night.
Not looking good. :eyebrow:
Things are tight, but I did what I could. :(
Juju and I are in. The dentist and the movers left us a little bit of change.
.... is still not full? Does it need updating or an extra injection of froth, Tony?
100% February thank you very much folks!
Less than a week left. :(
done
thanks for the reminder. Had a few extra bills this month.
Just a little contribution this month. Am belt-tightening :P
Remember, just because UT is a Rock Star, with a hot chick on his arm, doesn't mean he can afford major bandwidth. It's the 15th already.
My computer is infected with all manner of spyware and viruses (slowly grinding to a fucking halt). I'll donate when I've managed to fix it. I'm not making any online payments to anything right now.
I think there is an ointment for that.
That or you need a sacrifice...
Tithe made. This is the only church I belong to. :-)
Thanks all. I was afraid that people took Radar seriously when he tried to say the Cellar's method of operation is too expensive.
The truth of the matter is, each of his proposed changes would have been more expensive than the current deal, not less. But I refused to have that conversation with him, partly because it would have required me to give out specific details of bandwidth, where the system is and exactly what is consists of, etc. That's just not a good idea, security-wise. But more importantly, Radar decided it was too expensive before knowing how it was hosted and how much it costs. It was all about him, not about the Cellar, and frankly, fuck him.
At this point we have an excellent deal on colocation, and the cost has actually gone down. We have enough bandwidth to handle the next foam accident/test IotD without concern, and we can afford to actually grow, if that should happen.
I had no idea you've been under fire, UT. Shocking.
I was afraid that people took Radar seriously
Oh come on! Srsly...
I'm waiting for the foam to settle so I know how much is really in there.
Thanks all. I was afraid that people took Radar seriously
THAT, my friend, belongs in the Humor thread.
Nah it's just post-holiday/tax season....... Radar? Srsly? The talking out of his asshole award vote was unanimous on that one
I had no idea that conversation had even taken place. Bloody hell. It's like the licence fee debate all over again.
The Cellar is amazing. The fact it is approaching its 20th Birthday is enough of a STFU to any such suggestions imo.
Thanks all. I was afraid that people took Radar seriously when he tried to say the Cellar's method of operation is too expensive.
This is the first month I've been able to contribute.
And I didn't pay much more than the money I owed for the Stupid Question thread.
But I think you can understand from this that Radar's opinion on the Cellar's finances makes as much sense to me as his political opinions.
the deed is done for the month.
The level seems to be going down. I must have used too much salt.
Probably two more hits will fill it this month.
I gave it a little tap, Anton.
The month is done and next month is 1/3 done too. Thanks to all.
most welcome
But not all?
:D
Half way through the merry merry month of May.
I thought there was some spillage from last month.
I forgot about that and added it after reading xoB's msg. (hit F5) The turnover from 100% to 0% happens automatically at midnight on the 1st.
Ain't but one day left in May
What's the shortage? If everyone contributes their 2 cents, will that take care of it?
Yup. Mug is overfull again, thanks friends!
And now we're half way through the month.
we're at 60% with two days left
[size=1]no panic but this would be a bad time not to make target, logistically speaking[/size]
You sure that's not the 80% mug?
My goodness gracious, it's the middle of the month already. Better get cracking on the things I told myself I'd get done this month.
I did what I could.
Ditto
bumpity bump
Bumpty-bump! "My life for you!"
(name the quote)
no clue. The mug looked thirsty.
BTW - I also think I owe your fine foundation a call as well.
no clue. The mug looked thirsty.
BTW - I also think I owe your fine foundation a call as well.
From the TV movie version of "The Stand" by Stephen King.
Talk to ya soon. :-)
bump for the last week of the month.
Not very good, looking at the mug. :(
I don't have any significant amounts of money.
What are the acceptable amounts of contribution? How much money does it take for a full cup? Will a paltry donation help? Isn't it an insult to get pocket change? 'cause that's all I have.
Absolutely not, pocket change makes the world go 'round. :thumb:
The cup is $200/month which represents all the costs involved. For the sake of the community I do not care if you donate or not; it is merely up to you. I will say I know poor people who have put in tiny amounts for the year and I think that is beautiful.
*clink*
You have that right. No cha-ching here.
I am an unemployed, afraid to become a hobo, suffering major stress and a failing mother.
It is literally all I had left in my temp account. ( not used for bills )
It probably won't even raise the foam level.:(
You could have been better served with a happy meal.
The cup is $200/month which represents all the costs involved. For the sake of the community I do not care if you donate or not; it is merely up to you. I will say I know poor people who have put in tiny amounts for the year and I think that is beautiful.
Well ok thanks for that info. I don't feel it it so much of a bottomless beer mug and maybe even (intermittent) tokens will help.
thanks
It's the thought that counts. Trite? Yeah, but very, very true.;)
It is beautiful and I hope you are repaid many times in return.
It's the thought that counts. Trite? Yeah, but very, very true.;)
no, pun :P
It is beautiful and I hope you are repaid many times in return.
thanks! I feel by your post I already have been.
I think that this has come up before, but what happens if the mug isn't filled by tonight at midnight? Do we start tomorrow with a broken mug?
Naw man! It starts at zero and I just make up the difference.
That just doesn't seem right.
*shrug* it's not too terrible if the mug gets mostly full. xoB helps too.
115% thank you and I hope you are all repaid many times in return.
More than half way through the month.
I know normally we wait until one day left to rescue the mug, but it would be helpful in terms of timing the bills if we would fill it this week.
Thought I already did it - meh. Done did what I could.
Just put some beer in that mug
I've been a bit tight lately, but things are flowing a bit better now, so :beer: :guinness: :drunk:
I've been a bit tight lately, but things are flowing a bit better now, so :beer: :guinness: :drunk:
Finally went to the Gynocologist and urologist? :-)
And the mug is full. Thanks to everybody.
Must be a bloody Starbucks mug then.... looks like mostly froth to me...
I got a call today, reminding me of a luncheon meeting this coming Wednesday. I questioned it saying, I thought it was on the third Wednesday of the month. He told me this Wednesday is the third Wednesday of the month. :eek:
September is a very busy month, for most people, and a constant pocket money sucker. But it's a third gone already... please plan accordingly.
September is a very busy month, for most people, and a constant pocket money sucker. But it's a third gone already... please plan accordingly.
That's because too many people have sex at Christmas time and pop out babies in September! I think about half of everyone I know has a birthday in September.
At least us pretty ones are. :blush:
Bruce, that smacks of uglyism.
Spoken like a true non-September baby. :p:
Oh, and the month is half gone.
Nine months to the day from new year's eve. When I figured that out I spit up a little in my mouth.
My mother claimed I was conceived on the lounge carpet on their wedding anniversary (23rd Dec). TMI, mum, thanks.
Will the Cellar be too broke to have a happy birthday?
Done - thanks for the reminder, bruce.
OK, last chance to show your appreciation for 20 years of grueling, bloody fingered, nose to the grindstone, back breaking, hands off policy. ;)
bloody-nosed grindstone fingering? ew.
For just pennies a day you can help someone desperately in need... of pennies.
For just pennies a day, you can receive a photo of a young child dancing an ethnic jig of joy on top of a heaping pile of your precious pennies.
For just pennies a day you can buy a pack of gum, and you can chew that gum while glowing in the satisfaction that you have wisely spent your pennies.
For just pennies a day you can get the FDA’s recommended daily intake of copper.
I didn't want any of those things, so I put my penny in the beer mug.
For just pennies a day you can get the FDA’s recommended daily intake of copper.
and zinc!
I wonder what happens when one puts pennies in beer?
It might be time for an experiment.
The glass overfloweth... that's a good thing.
Probably because the copper is reacting with the CO2 in the beer.
I think is more to do with the suckers don't float. ;)
There ya go now you've overflown it again. Thanks!
The month is half gone, and UT doesn't accept candy corn. :haha:
2/3 of the month, 1/3 of the mug.
We did not make October and so the fluid in the mug did not change.
We did not make October and so the fluid in the mug did not change.
It looks empty now. Did someone top it up for October?
No, it goes back to zero automatically on the 1st of each month.
I was going to change it to iced tea once somebody filled it, but it never filled, so we remain alcoholics this month.
oh god, if it's going to change to something non-alcoholic the next time it gets filled I don't ever want it to fill again.
(And there will be a donation from me soon, but not this month :( )
It'll Grannie's "special" iced tea, the stuff the kids aren't allowed to touch.;)
Fraid I had to miss last month :( Done for this month though!
Wow, were damn near half way through the month already. Time flies when your stressed.
Are we going to make it this month? Will we finally get rid of that obfuscating foam?
I honestly hate to do this but if anyone is thinking of adding the Cellar to your Christmas donations, it would be better time-wise bill-payin'-wise if that would happen earlier rather than later in the month. Thank you.
That sure is a sad looking mug.
Aw hell once again it would be more convenient, if you were considering giving this month, to give now rather than at the end of the month due to the billing cycle.
Thanks to you in advances.
Made another payment just to see the beer rise. :-)
Made another payment just to see the beer rise. :-)
that wasn't the sperm donation in your formerly-deceased dad's honor, was it?
that wasn't the sperm donation in your formerly-deceased dad's honor, was it?
I have direct deposit for my sperm.
Aw hell once again it would be more convenient, if you were considering giving this month, to give now rather than at the end of the month due to the billing cycle.
Thanks to you in advances.
Aw hell once again it would be more convenient, if you were considering giving this month, to give now rather than at the end of the month due to the billing cycle.
Thanks to you in advances.
Done.
Absolutely no can do this month, sorry. Cessation of benefits + Feb 28th payday = no spare cash.
My regular wage will always be on the last day of the month, so I hope I can start the jar off with an early tip.
Won't be much, but it'll be my first regular contribution.
I no longer buy the magazine that Monster and I disputed, so you'll get that at least. And Mr Murdoch can read this and weep.
Month is over tomorrow and we're at 50%... I wouldn't mention it, but xoB isn't here to put in a word.
I remind all you needn't give if you can't, or don't want to. Don't feel guilty or anything, that shouldn't be what this is about, it is merely helpful and appreciated.
Month is over tomorrow and we're at 50%... I wouldn't mention it, but xoB isn't here to put in a word.
I remind all you needn't give if you can't, or don't want to. Don't feel guilty or anything, that shouldn't be what this is about, it is merely helpful and appreciated.
Always happy to fill yer mug. ;-)
Aw hell once again it would be more convenient, if you were considering giving this month, to give now rather than at the end of the month due to the billing cycle.
Thanks to you in advances. I hate hate hate having to ask and hope this will be the last month I do.
Bump. End-of-month rush time.
And once again I hate to have to say, the bill comes due Monday and it would be better if you were considering a tip mug donation, to make it now, due to this billing cycle.
Maybe I should just stop saying how much I hate saying it and that this condition is gonna stop any day now.
Could you relate the coolness of the tagline to the state of the tip jar?
Ye Olde Mugge is full and the tagline changed. Thank you friends!
So, how much does the mug need to show any change? It looks so empty that it makes me feel anxious.
It's not empty, it has a little bit in it. These days the mug fills @ $120.
final day of the month bump
I think we failed to fill the mug last month, so I thought I'd take up the challenge of getting it filled this month.
So how bout it peeps. Let's not leave it up to UT to start begging huh?
Don't make me come in there!!!
(Actually full disclosure, we did make it on the last day.)
Oh well, let's just try and make sure it fills a bit earlier this time around then. :)
ok girls and boys, the tip mug is looking pretty sad.
Any contributors this month?
C'mon peeps, hands up who has still got a job.
OI!!! Put some money in the jar ya mugs!!!
Nice work pooples. Only another $30 or so to go!
eat: Maybe fifty lol
Hit F5... it's about $20!
Looks like my work here is done.
Tomorrow I will nominate someone to take up the batton for next month. :)
If it's Big Sarge holding the baton, I think the budget will be fine! :D
I nominate monster to get the jar filled this month. I think it's just the sort of thing she'd be good at. :)
:yelgreedy ?
:(
:sniff:
;)
$120 / month folks. Half the month is gone and we're as dry as a dead dingo's donger.
still the same place we were two weeks ago kiddly diddlies!
Who's gonna pony up this time round?
shoulda nominated someone else. hitting others up for cash is totally not my gig
Yeah but I figured since you're good at organising stuff you might get the job done..
Anyway, it only needs another twenty bucks or so.
Who's in???
I nominate you to be in :)
I only get none hand-in pocket stuff done. that's why I'm so good at scrip. The rest of it -count me out, I'm way too British. I'd sooner conduct a survey in the mall on who would like me to lick their earlobes.
I already added, and I usually do most months. I did have a break from it for a while when I wasn't spending much time here. :)
I was teasing, i assumed you had.
people don't tend to bump unless they've done it. .....with a few notable exceptions in-my-guessing-opinion ;)
I deliberately avoid bumping and tipping within a few days of each other. Drawing attention to tipping seems tacky.
Well I don't know if it's tacky or not, but I've only started bumping this thread the last couple of months cause it seems like it's needed bumping. I don't even know if my contributions are more or less than others, but I contribute what I can when I can, just as everyone else does I think.
I suppose the idea of bumping towards the end of the month is just to remind people who meant to do it but have forgotten so far. *shrugs*
I suppose the idea of bumping towards the end of the month is just to avoid pregnancy without using artificial contraceptives
I have a strange mind.
This is more jiggling it than bumping it, really, isn't it? We need to be careful in case it spills...
Made it under the wire for another month... thanks all
You know, whoever finishes the tip mug for November won't have to worry about it during the Christmas / paying-off-Christmas period to come.
Due to the holidays it will be a good month to put in early tips... the invoice is here and needs paid by next week!
Done. Sorry it isn't more, but times are real tough at the moment. Still, if I'm going to hang around here more, I'm due.
Mug is full and recovered last month's shortage. Thanks to you all it works!
I've thrown in too. I suspect next month might be a tougher one all in. An early cushion might not be a bad thing.
Money's tighter than a gnat's chuff right now, but hopefully we'll be able to help again soon :(
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Say, what's the monthly budget for 2012?
$130 after a few "hidden" expenses... down from the $200 of the beginning of last year, and falling...
$130 after a few "hidden" expenses... down from the $200 of the beginning of last year, and falling...
How's the mug lookin?
It is fill'd for the month.
It is fill'd for the month.
I know the feeling. ;-)
Keep the monthly target higher than necessary.
For emergencies.
Sez me, who can rarely contribute and has no budgeting skills...
BUMP!
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Let's not leave it 'til the end of the month, eh?
I was hoping to leave it to the end of the year - this is 2012, after all, and we may never get there.
Oops: I hope you don't mind the French variation, UT.
Paid my rent here for the month. :-)
[insert rent-boy joke here]
[insert rent-boy joke here]
Insert rent boy here---> (_o_)
Is the mug full or just Santorumy?
It's full. In the full state, it should appear with about 1" of santorum below the rim and maybe about 1/4" above the rim.
(You may have to hit F5 (refresh) to get the current version of the image.)
Santorumy beer .... eeeiiiwwww!!!!! (either way)
Gonna have to count me out this month. I blew my rent on 5kg of Carrot
Have you thought of getting a smaller mug?
Then it'd be easier to fill ... :bolt:
Santorumy beer .... eeeiiiwwww!!!!! (either way)
Stay away from brown liquor!
Liquor? I didn't even ...
Bump time, folks.
Seriously folks, bump time.
Someone here must have some kind of regular income and no major crisis at present.
Then again ... maybe not...
Apparently the tip mug hasn't reached 100% for the last three months.
So consider this a bump.
Thanks!
Actually after I mentioned that to you I realized we did go 100% in March, so two months. Sorry
So, anyone got any grandparents left that they could put on ebay?
[SIZE="4"]Bumpitty[/SIZE]-[SIZE="3"]bump[/SIZE]-[SIZE="2"]bump[/SIZE]-[SIZE="1"]bump[/SIZE]
*throws in some loose change*
Looking awf'y empty in that thar jar ... :(
^^^ W I S ^^^
(I'm sure it looked full a couple of days ago, but it's darn empty now!!)
Oh uh hit F5 - someone has given a bit
Damn, it's the 29th already.:facepalm:
Almost the end of the month, and the mug's looking pretty sparse still. I don't know about you all, but I was reminded today how important this place is, both to me and to others.
And UT is unemployed so he can't carry us. ;)
Look what time it is boys and girls, time to hydrate the mug. ;)
tossed my $0.02 worth in... ok well .. more than $0.02
Because of when the bill comes it will be helpful to fill the mug early this month if possible. Thank you all.
Rolled some change and tossed it in. Dad gum Manchester United stock is losing money.
Looking poorly with three days to go. Gonna stick it up UT's ass again, eh. :eyebrow:
it's been a long time but...DONE! :-)
Looking poorly with three days to go. Gonna stick it up UT's ass again, eh. :eyebrow:
it's been a long time but...DONE! :-)
I bet this is why you came here, hm? mr questionable ethics man?
I bet this is why you came here, hm? mr questionable ethics man?
I only donated because I was promised a BJ from the first person to reply to my donation post. Get out your chap stick and get to work
BigV! muahahahahaha!!!!
Tiz the season for giving, eh? UT has enough trouble with his septic tank, without having the servers dragged out and pistol whipped in the middle of the night.
Alrighty then, since we left UT twisting in the wind last month, methinks we should give him a little help this time. C'mon, ten bucks would help.
That way he'll have to wash the mug at the end of the month. :haha:
Alrighty then, since we left UT twisting in the wind last month, methinks we should give him a little help this time. C'mon, ten bucks would help.
That way he'll have to wash the mug at the end of the month. :haha:
Done! :-)
Thanks to y'all the mug is full this month.
February done now. :-) Next!
I'm waiting until after valentines day to make sure the Cellar sends me candy and flowers. :blush:
OK, I'm in. I'm sure the Cellar will send me flowers and candy for V Day.:biggrinlo
OK, I'm in. I'm sure the Cellar will send me flowers and candy for V Day.:biggrinlo
No problem. Which VD gift would you like? ;)
Did we make it this month, looks pretty near full?
Yessir a single donor filled it and recouped a deficit from a previous month.
I have to admit having a hard time correlating the mug image with anything concrete about dollars, i.e. does the foam at the top count as a few sips missing? When the mug is filled, how much of a meniscus is there?
Maybe it's somewhere in these 45 pages of posts but I guess what I'm looking for is a small chart correlating mug images with % fill. Which probably destroys all the mystique and appeal of the whole premise.
Just throw in money till your shoes are wet. :lol2:
I imagine it was fun making those images. Kind of like a trip down memory lane to a kid's science fair project, except with a reward at the end.
It has occurred to me for years that these are not appropriate for the nondrinkers amongst us. But I always forget to take replacement shots with tea or coffee or something else.
It has occurred to me for years that these are not appropriate for the nondrinkers amongst us. But I always forget to take replacement shots with tea or coffee or something else.
Good point.
It has occurred to me for years that these are not appropriate for the nondrinkers amongst us. But I always forget to take replacement shots with tea or coffee or something else.
Not really. I'm a non-drinker not an anti-drinker.
could be alkihol-free :) Or butterbeer
It has occurred to me for years that these are not appropriate for the nondrinkers amongst us. But I always forget to take replacement shots with tea or coffee or something else.
Aw, don't start that politically correct shit, that's the slipperiest slope in the world.:yelsick:
I guess. I just don't want anyone with a problem to have a trigger at the bottom of every page. But I guess I don't want the work of setting up a new series of photos just for that.
It has occurred to me for years that these are not appropriate for the nondrinkers amongst us. But I always forget to take replacement shots with tea or coffee or something else.
OK, how about an erection? :haha:
Do we start with the Kintyre Peninsula?
How about a strip tease?
Aw, don't start that politically correct shit, that's the slipperiest slope in the world.:yelsick:
Yeah. Besides, I like the beer mug. :)
I've figured out why the tip mug image doesn't refresh, and fixed it. It only took me 6 years to figure that out.
Change the image to a penis at various stages of arousal, from flaccid to fully erect. ;-)
Depending on one's preferences that might lead to less money coming in... or more.
A dogbowl getting gradually filled with food?
A cat destroying a scratching post. :haha:
Depending on one's preferences that might lead to less money coming in... or more.
That's why you did well to use a beer mug instead of a champagne flute, don't want people to think we're uppity... OR DO WE?
A cat destroying a scratching post. :haha:
Tcha, pussy on your mind again, Bruce :blush:
I've figured out why the tip mug image doesn't refresh, and fixed it. It only took me 6 years to figure that out.
That is to say, I still have to manually update its status; but when I do, that new status shows up immediately and is accurate.
*phew*
Well now, we're almost into the 4th trimester, I best get tuit. :haha:
Has the mug been updated?
It doesn't update automatically, I still have to do it by hand
OK, let's get this fucker moving.
[SIZE="3"]YO![/SIZE] Fourth trimester, folks, don't get caught short.
Damn, if UT's gotta carry us this month don't expect a souvenir from England, except maybe some hotel stationary, or airplane safety card. :neutral:
Last chance to enjoy the privilege of filling the mug before UT goes to Old Blighty.
How would he impress the kidnapping terrorist girl gang with an empty mug.
Kidnapping terrorist girl gangs are never impressed by empty mugs.
Don't risk losing UT to a kidnapping terrorist girl gang, level up.
Oh! Ze mug! Ze mug! Look Boss, it might even make it to the top this month.
Remember, UT has to gather enough nuts for winter while still meeting obligations of RIAA suits, hush money to Putin, and those pesky paternity suits.
I just put my nuts in the UT Mug. :D
You made it deep enough to dunk.
You made it deep enough to dunk.
Nuts deep. :-)
Hey Sheldon, thanks for the
pants. ;)
Hey Sheldon, thanks for the pants. ;)
Gene splicing is the future. ;-)
Looking at the mug I thought...
What does it take to fill each month at this point?
It's down from $220 about three years ago, when we used to burn a lot of bandwidth. Savings have been passed along. Or something.
Are you still too lazy to take $20 checks to the bank?
I don't see a way to set up recurring paypal payments.
Well, I set up a new PayPal account, so maybe bumping this thread will be enough. I had to be at my work computer and think of it, and have 5 free minutes with which to get my card out, etc.... And that didn't happen as often as it should have in the last few years.
Now I have this cool phone with the PayPal app, I should be better about helping with the cost.
What does it take to fill each month at this point?
8"+
:eek:
Yah but the mug expands/contracts for whatever size is needed.
Yah but the mug expands/contracts for whatever size is needed.
That's why I never complain when money's tight.
Unless Bruce reminds me to reset the tip mug on the 1st, I never do!
Not to saddle him with such responsibilities, I have now created a calendar entry to remind me to do it.
I was wondering about that. I was away over the first, so hoped you had leftovers... but deep down knew better. :blush:
OK, are we going to wait till the last minute, letting UT chew his nails waiting to see if the mug gets filled this month? Got to put some in so I can yell at him to empty it at the first. :crone:
Running out of time...tick... tock... tick... tock...
How much do we need to get this done?
This is done. Lets get an early start on next month, shall we?
Thanks Imm on my tablet and can't update the mug just yet,!
Bump de bump to get over the hump de hump. :-)
Yes, lets get started a little earlier this month. :thumb:
That didn't seem to help. :(
Count it up, push it in, tush, tush.
Lube it up, lube it up, push, push.
Quiet down, fill it up, shush, shush.
Lube it up, lube it up, push, push.
:p:
Count it up, push it in, tush, tush.
Lube it up, lube it up, push, push.
Quiet down, fill it up, shush, shush.
Lube it up, lube it up, push, push.
:p:
Ahhh...They don't write Disney songs like they used to. :D
Looks full but it's not: another $10 fills it
That's what it looks like full. Thanks everybody!
Looks full but it's not: another $10 fills it
I've said that same thing many times. :D
Nice to see the mug filled for UT's birthday.
OK, it's December... [SIZE="1"]What? No! I'm not ready[/SIZE]!... and that means the last half of the month is chaos... duh.
So lets get this shit out of the way before we run out of time, money, sanity, etc, etc.
Oh, and if the holidays drive to suicide, remember the Cellar in your will.
Hey, let's be practical, you won't need it down there, even if you could take it.

this is done.
in celebration of my first paycheck, I've given 10% to the cellar. also, out of gratitude for you ALL being here for me even when I didn't have a job. Thanks everyone. Thanks Undertoad. I love you guys.
this is done.
in celebration of my first paycheck, I've given 10% to the cellar. also, out of gratitude for you ALL being here for me even when I didn't have a job. Thanks everyone. Thanks Undertoad. I love you guys.
Ditto ya BigV. :-)
this is done.
in celebration of my first paycheck, I've given 10% to the cellar. also, out of gratitude for you ALL being here for me even when I didn't have a job. Thanks everyone. Thanks Undertoad. I love you guys.
A tithe to the church of the whale penis! Very nice of you, V. Congrats again on the job.
New Years Day. Force an eye open... look blearily around... the mug is empty... no wonder my head hurts. :nuts:
There would have a little residual but there were four months last year where the mug didn't fill. Let's start fresh.
That's no reason to hold off donating though.
Filled in advance this month
That's what she said
So did he.
Let's get this rolling early so we don't have to scramble at the end of the month.
UT, can you interpret the behind the suds level please.
Psssst, quick before the IRS takes it.
What the... 20th and not even half full. :facepalm:
4/20 ....should change it to a dish of appetizers and desserts.....
First of May, first of May
Empty tip jar starts today
It is time to make it rain
So it be all full again
Tinkle tinkle in the mug, and on the first it's glug glug glug.
I think I was Stoned and did it twice this month. Oh Well, I might have to do it twice next month, and see if I detect a pattern
I don't look too closely unless there's a question, but yes it appears you have done it twice. :D
Memorial Day is behind us now, and July the 4th is aways ahead.
Use this pause to tip the mug, and be ready for the
Happy Thread,
The 20th, holy shit! We're running out of time here. :eek:
That poor mug looks pretty dry. :(
Since today is National Ice Cream day, and you're getting free ice cream, you could drop that saved money in the mug.
It may have been briefly down because some moron paypalled me $400 by mistake (sent to undrtoad!) and initiated an inquiry and I had to refund her.
Time to look for back to school bargains, and no bigger bargain than the keep Undertoad from going under fund.
agreed
soon, I promise. very very tight budget at the moment.
Thank you all, the mug is looking wet.
Try to remember
the kind of September
when life was slow
and oh, so mellow
'Cause it ain't no more.
Life is too hectic and it's easy to overlook the things that make it worth the rat race... like the Cellar. Give until you think it might become uncomfortable. :haha:
I don't bump this thread, but this month we will be paying twice for our access. Once for the server cage we have been living in for the last 8 years or so. Once for the new virtual server that will be our home by the end of the month.
The old method has been too expensive for us, and the tip mug has actually not filled several times this year. This new method of hosting will be much cheaper, about half the cost.
It's now possible because the amount of bandwidth used is way down in the last two years. IotD attracted many visitors, and took resources, but now that we are more of a simple forum, we can fit our transfer into 2TB per month.
But this month we'll be paying 1.5 times the freight during the transition.
So please touch the mug. It will be your last chance to do it, because I'm removing the mug entirely next month. I thank all the unnamed donors who have given over the years: you know who you are, and you made this happen.
I'm removing the mug entirely next month.
Whoah. I hope you get an overflowing mug this month.
I gave my usual plus extra.
Wish I could help out Toad, but I'm as broke as broke can be.
If you're removing the tip jar, how will we be able to contribute in future?
You have filled the mug and I thank you. Anything additional at this point will go towards what didn't fill in the past, and future costs. (But once the place is paid for through 2015 I will remove the mug...)
If you're removing the tip jar, how will we be able to contribute in future?
Through thoughtful participation on the Cellar, and charity, in funds or in thoughts, toward us all.
Srsly if you ever wind up with extra funds in the future, I urge you to follow the xoB model and find people who would greatly benefit from a toehold. It helped me, and I am grateful. Now I want to become a helper myself.
What I think may happen is we may find other projects that are worthy of funding. Who knows what might be possible. We have already done a ton by putting our act together.
But you know, there are always people who feel bad about not being able to give, and feel left out of the Cellar in a small way. I think that's sad, everyone who is active should feel they are an important part of it, even if they are not able to give for any reason.
Maybe even if they don't
want to. Everyone who posts is a contributor. Even everyone who reads.
One more touch and the mug goes away!
Oh, so now the mug's getting uppity. She used to get down and dirty with us, drank like a fish, swore like a sailor, copped feels at the pool table... skank. :p:
UT's got a blank space for your mug
And he'll write your name, love
You mentioned the costs are coming down. Also you've become Respectable, productive, middle class, eligible for Republicanship, citizen again, so you can handle the cost of the Cellar.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. :crone:
I have a way with words, eh? Feel free to use it.
Maybe the new challenge is finding something worth funding.
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Are you still too lazy to take $20 checks to the bank?
This smackdown has stuck with me. I thought about it a lot this morning. I guess I'd say what happened was partly that I lost any concept of any meaning of life at some point, and was in a very serious mental state.
In that adrift place, I was deeply unmotivated and kind of didn't like having been given a chore to do, even when it was entirely well-meaning. Who enjoys going to the bank? When I figured out that the bottom line of ignoring the chore was that I just gave the money back, it made it an easy non-decision, so I could feel less guilt about it.
I ignored a lot of life post-divorce; and I feel this was largely due to the fact that the anti-depressants I was still on were no longer necessary, and were preventing me from feeling the low level of anxiety that is secretly slightly motivating.
From what I understand, my condition is common among men of a certain age who don't have children, and is fatal if untreated. After a while, it's all just who gives a fuck? I found enough meaning in saving my own life to change things, but I don't begrudge the people who don't.
Needless to say, being in that state was not good preparation for the approaching economic downturn. Get your shit together, friends, our current good times are an excellent time to do thatMeh, I'll do it tomorrow.
Also, I looove going to the bank.
Because that's where the money is.:jig:
And nowadays you can deposit checks with your banks mobile app.
How is the funding for the cellar going these days? I haven't contributed any money, and most of my content has been for my own future reference. Could you use a bit of coin in the coffers?
No, now that Linux servers are a commodity thing, it's hobby-level expenses to run it, not a problem. If we were still attracting people by the hundreds, it might be a different story. With just our bunch we are easy to manage.
Still looking for something worth funding, but nothing has come to mind. All my ideas take more time than money it seems.
All my ideas take more time than money it seems.
Think gold-plated toilets.
And better weed.