All I Want for Christmas is...

Elspode • Nov 30, 2007 8:18 pm
This is where you write up your wish list, folks. What do you hope to get? What do you know you're going to get already? What have you already gotten and decided to call it Christmas because it was so damn extravagant?

None of the above applies to me this year. I've got more than I need already. So...what do I want?

1) A fresh, personal naughty picture from Labrat, and plans for a weekend in Iowa.
2) A recording of LJ playing "Ring of Fire", with video.
3) A calendar featuring photos of all the Cellarites, dressed or undressed.

That's all.
LJ • Nov 30, 2007 8:42 pm
wicked distortion, and death metal style lyrics ok?
Elspode • Nov 30, 2007 8:49 pm
Required, actually.
monster • Nov 30, 2007 8:50 pm
Heelies and a Djembe.

oh, and world peace and all that shit.

I've never really wanted anythig before, and these are both really out of the the question for various reasons, but it's fun to dream :D
SteveDallas • Nov 30, 2007 11:36 pm
Elspode;412292 wrote:
What do you know you're going to get already?

Nintendo DS Lite.
Elspode;412292 wrote:
What have you already gotten and decided to call it Christmas because it was so damn extravagant?

Set of interchangeable knitting needles.
LJ • Nov 30, 2007 11:43 pm
Cowboys vs Colts Superbowl


Jeep Wrangler


A Blowgie?
Sundae • Dec 2, 2007 6:13 am
I'd like:
- to lose another 70lbs
- a more positive outlook
- a lover

I believe I will get them between now and next Christmas.
limey • Dec 2, 2007 1:27 pm
SteveDallas;412329 wrote:
....
Set of interchangeable knitting needles.


For yourself?
SteveDallas • Dec 2, 2007 1:56 pm
Yes.
limey • Dec 2, 2007 4:13 pm
SteveDallas;412518 wrote:
Yes.


Options or Harmony?
Elspode • Dec 2, 2007 10:04 pm
Sundae Girl;412476 wrote:
I'd like:
- to lose another 70lbs
- a more positive outlook
- a lover

I believe I will get them between now and next Christmas.


If you can come up with airfare, I can guarantee you #3, which might well result in #2. :D
Drax • Dec 2, 2007 10:51 pm
LJ;412297 wrote:
wicked distortion, and death metal style lyrics ok?


Excellent! :devil: Also try our wide range of deliciously satanic Norwegian Black Metal...or any black metal for that matter.
SteveDallas • Dec 2, 2007 11:22 pm
limey;412536 wrote:
Options or Harmony?

Harmony :) They are definitely living up to their reputation.
Drax • Dec 2, 2007 11:23 pm
Here's mine:

[LIST]
[*]A non-surgical cure for Cerebral Palsy.
[*]The passing of H.R. 676.
[*]My metabolism back
[/LIST]
Drax • Dec 2, 2007 11:27 pm
Sundae Girl;412476 wrote:
I'd like:
- to lose another 70lbs


http://www.naafa.org/documents/brochures/myths.html
Razzmatazz13 • Dec 3, 2007 5:16 am
hmm...things I want

- a tripod for my camera
- a better job
- an idea of what I want to study to go back to college
- another visit from my boyfriend (he's trying for march)

What? it is a WISHlist after all...
Shawnee123 • Dec 3, 2007 9:47 am
My non-selfish answer is for my family and friends to be happy and safe.

My selfish answer is just a little breathing room a la money. Oh, and a camera. And a DVD-rom. And cable. And home internet. A new car. Some clothes. A trip to a cabin with a sweet, funny, caring man. To feel better. Etc and so on...

;)
ZenGum • Dec 3, 2007 9:52 am
Li'l Johnny had been good this year, and his parents asked him what he wanted for Christmas.
He said "I wanna watch".
So they let him.



When I'm in hell, please send me cookies, won't you?
Shawnee123 • Dec 3, 2007 9:54 am
I'll prolly have a room nearby, Zen. I'm gonna be Satan's girlfriend, so you can come over and watch cable and eat ice cubes sometime if you want.
ZenGum • Dec 3, 2007 9:56 am
I'll be sure to pop over and say "Hell-o" then.
And when we eat the ice cubes I'll be sure to say "Hades are pretty good."
SteveDallas • Dec 3, 2007 11:25 am
Shawnee123;412664 wrote:
I'm gonna be Satan's girlfriend

Do you have a master plan to pry him away from Saddam?
Pie • Dec 3, 2007 11:34 am
I want a healthy father and mother.
A reduction in stress.
A chance to meet up with old friends.
binky • Dec 3, 2007 12:06 pm
ZenGum;412663 wrote:
Li'l Johnny had been good this year, and his parents asked him what he wanted for Christmas.
He said "I wanna watch".
So they let him.



When I'm in hell, please send me cookies, won't you?


sick:biggrin:
Drax • Dec 3, 2007 12:12 pm
Shawnee123;412657 wrote:
And a DVD-rom. And cable. And home internet.
;)


Ok, lemme to a little bragging here:

[LIST]
[*]My PCs disC drive is a combo DVD-ROM and CD-RW, and my DVD player plays audio CDs, MP3s, CD-ROMs, CD-RWs, and has a built-in VCR.
[*]If your wishing for better TV, why not just got all the way. I got DirecTV - 434 channels including the regular cable stuff + 28 premium channels + BBC America + my area broadcast networks + 5 cable news channels, and there are a few DirecTV exclusive channel, my fav. of which is the 101.
[*]As for my current connection to the 'net: I got 1.5Mbps (max.) DSL.
[/LIST]
Drax • Dec 3, 2007 12:15 pm
Pie;412690 wrote:
I want a healthy father and mother.


Noble.

I'd like my entire family to have good health.
Drax • Dec 3, 2007 12:23 pm
Shawnee123;412664 wrote:
I'm gonna be Satan's girlfriend.


That ok, I don't need one. To busy with the revenge, and all. :devil:
shina • Dec 3, 2007 12:49 pm
for it to stop raining
Shawnee123 • Dec 3, 2007 1:09 pm
Drax;412711 wrote:
Ok, lemme to a little bragging here:

[LIST]
[*]My PCs disC drive is a combo DVD-ROM and CD-RW, and my DVD player plays audio CDs, MP3s, CD-ROMs, CD-RWs, and has a built-in VCR.
[*]If your wishing for better TV, why not just got all the way. I got DirecTV - 434 channels including the regular cable stuff + 28 premium channels + BBC America + my area broadcast networks + 5 cable news channels, and there are a few DirecTV exclusive channel, my fav. of which is the 101.
[*]As for my current connection to the 'net: I got 1.5Mbps (max.) DSL.
[/LIST]


Well goody goody for you! :mad2:

;)
lookout123 • Dec 3, 2007 2:14 pm
Arsenal Champions League 3rd Jersey. Do you know how freaking hard to find this is? they are even completely out of stock at the Arsenal club store.
TheMercenary • Dec 3, 2007 3:37 pm
Drax;412605 wrote:
Here's mine:
[*]The passing of H.R. 676.


Uggggg.... never. I wish.

Pie in the sky web link:
http://www.hr676.org/
Drax • Dec 3, 2007 4:53 pm
TheMercenary;412768 wrote:
Uggggg.... never.


Explain.
binky • Dec 3, 2007 5:04 pm
Drax;412711 wrote:
Ok, lemme to a little bragging here:

[LIST]
[*]My PCs disC drive is a combo DVD-ROM and CD-RW, and my DVD player plays audio CDs, MP3s, CD-ROMs, CD-RWs, and has a built-in VCR.
[*]If your wishing for better TV, why not just got all the way. I got DirecTV - 434 channels including the regular cable stuff + 28 premium channels + BBC America + my area broadcast networks + 5 cable news channels, and there are a few DirecTV exclusive channel, my fav. of which is the 101.
[*]As for my current connection to the 'net: I got 1.5Mbps (max.) DSL.
[/LIST]


and we care about this why??
Drax • Dec 3, 2007 5:16 pm
binky;412794 wrote:
and we care about this why??


Did I say you had to?
binky • Dec 3, 2007 5:20 pm
whew no thank goodness you didn't
Drax • Dec 3, 2007 5:28 pm
binky;412796 wrote:
whew no thank goodness you didn't


Cum to think of it, why should you care about anything I post. :rolleyes:
binky • Dec 3, 2007 6:01 pm
actually you're right I don't
Pie • Dec 3, 2007 7:04 pm
Drax;412714 wrote:
Noble.

I'd like my entire family to have good health.

Well, yes. My Mom and Papa are just the unhealthiest of the lot, at the moment. Papa has incurable cancer, and Mom has a whole host of ailments.

But sure, if we're venturing into the realm of the absurd, I'd like us all to be healthy. :lol:
TheMercenary • Dec 3, 2007 9:13 pm
Drax;412792 wrote:
Explain.
This is total bull shite and this is what the proponents are trying to sell to the public:



Check out some of the tremendous benefits that NHI will bring and see what you think:






Every citizen of the US will be covered from birth to death.
No more pre-existing conditions to be excluded from coverage.
No more expensive deductibles or co-pays.
All prescription medications will be covered.
All dental and eye care will be included.

Mental health and substance abuse care will be fully covered.
Long term and nursing home services will be included.
You will always choose your own doctors and hospitals.
Costs of coverage will be assessed on a sliding scale basis.
Tremendously simplified system of medical administration
Total portability – your coverage not tied to any job or location.
Existing Medicare benefits for those over 65 will remain the same or be vastly improved in many cases.


Total crap... They are trying to sell you the world. It will never happen. Be careful what you wish for.
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 12:41 am
I know what the bill says, ok. I read it. Quoting it was no necessary.

It might never become law, but what's the harm in voting for it.

Besides, seem to be in the majority on this.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/what-can-i-do/petitions/last25.php?paper=1&qnum=pnum649
lookout123 • Dec 4, 2007 10:43 am
why do you feel we have a "right" to "free" healthcare?
classicman • Dec 4, 2007 10:54 am
[QUOTE=Drax;412872]It might never become law, but what's the harm in voting for it.

www.michaelmoore.com/sicko[QUOTE]

Is it even remotely freakin feasible and, if so, at what cost?

Oh and Michael Moore is another reason NOT to vote for it.
ZenGum • Dec 4, 2007 11:00 am
classicman;412939 wrote:
[QUOTE=Drax;412872]It might never become law, but what's the harm in voting for it.

www.michaelmoore.com/sicko[QUOTE]

Is it even remotely freakin feasible and, if so, at what cost?

Oh and Michael Moore is another reason NOT to vote for it.


As to feasibility, Canada, Britain, Australia, Japan, and quite a bit of Europe have public health that covers everyone. It isn't "free" of course, but it is workable.

EDIT. Sorry all, this is the wrong thread for this post. So for Christmas, I want some common sense and self-restraint relating to my posting urges!
bigw00dy • Dec 4, 2007 11:08 am
Free Healthcare = The end of progressive medicine!

I do wish for ALF to make a return to TV, but with the original cast just new, modern storylines.
hello1122 • Dec 4, 2007 1:34 pm
I just want good health and healty heart.
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 4:06 pm
lookout123;412937 wrote:
why do you feel we have a "right" to "free" healthcare?


Why would you put a price on your health???
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 4:13 pm
ZenGum;412942 wrote:

As to feasibility, Canada, Britain, Australia, Japan, and quite a bit of Europe have public health that covers everyone. It isn't "free" of course, but it is workable.


:thankyou:

Besides, the bill never said it'd be free.
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 4:18 pm
bigw00dy;412944 wrote:
Free Healthcare = The end of progressive medicine!


Free Healthcare might not be realistic, but it's certainly idealistic.
lookout123 • Dec 4, 2007 4:18 pm
because everything has a price. nothing is free.

i put a price on my health. it is the dollar amount that i pay to an insurance company every month. i receive no subsidies and no corporate breaks. the insurance company quotes what my family will cost to insure and i write the check. the money i use for that purpose would be more fun to spend elsewhere, but i decided the coverage was a top priority.

what you want is to be able to put a dollar value on your health and have someone else write the check to pay for it.

no thanks mister. there is a safety net of minimal health coverage for extreme cases. it's a pretty crappy system, but it isn't meant to be attractive. the gap between that and "good" healthcare is up to you to provide for you and yours. not my responsibility.
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 4:32 pm
lookout123;413053 wrote:
because everything has a price. nothing is free.

i put a price on my health. it is the dollar amount that i pay to an insurance company every month. i receive no subsidies and no corporate breaks. the insurance company quotes what my family will cost to insure and i write the check. the money i use for that purpose would be more fun to spend elsewhere, but i decided the coverage was a top priority.

what you want is to be able to put a dollar value on your health and have someone else write the check to pay for it.

no thanks mister. there is a safety net of minimal health coverage for extreme cases. it's a pretty crappy system, but it isn't meant to be attractive. the gap between that and "good" healthcare is up to you to provide for you and yours. not my responsibility.



Ok, but what if your insurance company decides not to pay for a life-saving procedure you or your family might need done?
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 4:35 pm
I retract my H.R. 676 wish just cuz it's causin' so much shit around here.
monster • Dec 4, 2007 4:36 pm
Drax;413051 wrote:
Free Healthcare might not be realistic, but it's certainly idealistic.


And voting to make an ideal law is a good idea?

In an ideal world, we wouldn't need police, armed forces, money..... shall we vote to outlaw these so we'll be closer to ideal?

BTW, yes Britain has National Insurance. It doesn't give all the things promised in the bill that Merc quoted (thanks Merc, I hadn't read it). In fact it had to stop providing a lot of those in order to survive. And you have never been able to choose your providers to any realiatic degree. It just wouldn't work if you could. That list of pie in the sky is what gives the movement a bad name. You need legislation to deal with the "how" not the "what".

Voting for unrealistic ideals is stupid and asking for trouble.

oh dear, did I rant? That's my mean atheist way of spoiling everyone's Christmas :lol:

Would you believe I'm actually in favour of National insurance? :D
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 4:43 pm
monster;413062 wrote:

Voting for unrealistic ideals is stupid and asking for trouble.


Explain.
lookout123 • Dec 4, 2007 5:30 pm
Ok, but what if your insurance company decides not to pay for a life-saving procedure you or your family might need done?

if it was not a service covered by my insurance then i have to either accept that i am going to die sooner, rather than later - or i need to find a way to pay for it if i don't want to die.

if it IS a service covered by my ins. company and they are being stupid i will visit an attorney.
monster • Dec 4, 2007 5:56 pm
Drax;413064 wrote:
Explain.


?
Elspode • Dec 4, 2007 10:59 pm
This shit is fuckin' up my perfectly good thread. Politics thread is here.
Pie • Dec 4, 2007 11:07 pm
Does anyone have any experience with 529 educational savings funds? I'm thinking of setting up one for my sisters-in-law's sproggins. (There's precisely one as of Nov. 29th, but I'm sure there will be more.)
Since we're not procreating, I figure I'll chip in for their eddumication, hey?
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 11:09 pm
Elspode;413233 wrote:
This shit is fuckin' up my perfectly good thread. Politics thread is here.


My bad. If I'd just left it off my list, Merc wouldn't've started this shit.

I don't know 'bout the other, but I 's done. Lez back to topic, people.
Drax • Dec 4, 2007 11:14 pm
monster;413107 wrote:
?


Nevermind. I don't wanna piss off Els any further.
classicman • Dec 5, 2007 12:01 am
I would like simply to spend time with those I love without all the drama and stress that's normally associated with holiday get-togethers. I don't have a lot of materialistic possessions, nor do I need any more. Some peace, serenity and relaxation would be just plenty. Oh, and a hug from each of my kids. That will make my year.
lookout123 • Dec 5, 2007 12:03 am
Pie;413236 wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with 529 educational savings funds? I'm thinking of setting up one for my sisters-in-law's sproggins. (There's precisely one as of Nov. 29th, but I'm sure there will be more.)
Since we're not procreating, I figure I'll chip in for their eddumication, hey?


i have all the experience you could possible ask for in this area. if you have specific questions just PM me.
Drax • Dec 5, 2007 12:35 am
classicman;413260 wrote:
I would like simply to spend time with those I love without all the drama and stress that normally accompanies holiday get-togethers. I don't have a lot of materialistic possessions, nor do I need any more. Some peace, serenity and relaxation would be just plenty. Oh, and a hug from each of my kids. That will make my year.


...and those of us who are Christian need to remember the real reason for Christmas...the birth of the Son Of Our Lord. I suppose that's why we give our children presents. As children of Jehovah, they are all parts of Jesus.
Elspode • Dec 5, 2007 7:04 pm
Presents are parts of Jesus? Ewww...
Drax • Dec 5, 2007 7:25 pm
Elspode;413557 wrote:
Presents are parts of Jesus? Ewww...


For lack of a better phrase. :p
Sundae • Dec 5, 2007 7:26 pm
Oh no, images of newspaper wrapped, leaking packages beneath the Christmas tree now in my mind. Thanks 'Spode!
Aliantha • Dec 5, 2007 7:46 pm
hmmm..that sounds like something from the Simpsons SG.
Elspode • Dec 5, 2007 11:08 pm
Sundae Girl;413564 wrote:
Oh no, images of newspaper wrapped, leaking packages beneath the Christmas tree now in my mind. Thanks 'Spode!


...and the paper looks like the Shroud of Turin...
jester • Dec 6, 2007 12:24 pm
I haven't seen these if they are available, but I would like

"solar powered" outdoor christmas lights. who in the world wants to deal with extension cords running everywhere.

for myself personally i want a pair of Lugs.
binky • Dec 6, 2007 12:37 pm
those would be cool since I live 2 feet from the sun
Bullitt • Dec 6, 2007 3:01 pm
Her :blush:

Image

no not in that way you pervs.
lookout123 • Dec 6, 2007 3:07 pm
2 thoughts:

1) I really hope you are talking about the subject in the foreground.

2) What do you mean "not in that way"? you better - plenty of dwellars want her "in that way".
Bullitt • Dec 6, 2007 3:13 pm
I dunno, lots of things get better with age.. fine wine.. cheese.. steak..






yeah no it's the young one

2) well derr I'm a young virile male come on now. But, one thing at a time. I'm going after top shelf goods here.
Drax • Dec 6, 2007 4:43 pm
...Medicare to pay for the custom wheelchair me and my PT discussed instead of trying to push a standard hospital-type chair in my face. :angry:
Elspode • Dec 6, 2007 5:59 pm
Bullitt;413853 wrote:
2) well derr I'm a young virile male come on now. But, one thing at a time. I'm going after top shelf goods here.


Okay, fine...you're a wonderfully moral young man. This does, however, beg the question...just what the hell *do* you want her for? Housekeeping? Personal assistant? Does she have bookkeeping skills?

I think you want to have carnal knowledge of her, but you're just dodging the obvious.
classicman • Dec 6, 2007 6:10 pm
He's smart Els and he's planning ahead for when she looks or joins the cellar....
lookout123 • Dec 6, 2007 6:11 pm
well then, i'll plan ahead for that day. I am looking for a personal assistant and i pay well. Apply within.
Bullitt • Dec 6, 2007 6:27 pm
Elspode;413928 wrote:
Okay, fine...you're a wonderfully moral young man. This does, however, beg the question...just what the hell *do* you want her for? Housekeeping? Personal assistant? Does she have bookkeeping skills?

I think you want to have carnal knowledge of her, but you're just dodging the obvious.


Well considering I've seen her in person all of 6 times (she goes to a different school) but we talk on the phone and online nearly everyday. She's incredibly smart and funny, I want to get to know her better and go from there. My last relationship went down in flames, no survivors, bodies everywhere, started a forest fire, you get the idea. I want to make sure I do this right from the beginning.

And to your second point.. I won't lie I've got a sex drive that could move a damn mountain. But I'm controlling things because though she may be gorgeous, and fit, and toned, and tan, and wow I need to stop, I want to make sure this gets off on the right foot.
Good?
kerosene • Dec 6, 2007 6:29 pm
I thought I already got the job? What with all the lightbulbs?
classicman • Dec 6, 2007 6:41 pm
I always start with the left foot - FWIW.
ZenGum • Dec 6, 2007 11:01 pm
classicman;413950 wrote:
I always start with the left foot - FWIW.


Yes, but it's what you do with it that is the problem.
Elspode • Dec 7, 2007 8:02 pm
Bullitt;413948 wrote:
...she may be gorgeous, and fit, and toned, and tan, and wow I need to stop, I want to make sure this gets off on the right foot.
Good?


Yeah, I think you've confirmed my hypothesis. Keep us posted, stud boy. :)
Bullitt • Dec 7, 2007 11:45 pm
Will do. Winter break is in one week and we'll be spending exponentially more time together.
Griff • Dec 8, 2007 3:43 pm
Sundae Girl;412476 wrote:
- a more positive outlook


Start reading stuff on mindfulness. Be fully engaged and effective in the task at hand and don't burn energy thinking about the last screw-up or the problem on the horizon. The idea is to "wire and fire," to repeatedly use neural pathways that end in positive thoughts. Because of the way the brain appears to work, we can train it to use certain pathways habitually. We can create positive habits to replace our old negative ones. The brain is plastic. Change your mind.
TheMercenary • Dec 8, 2007 3:51 pm
Griff;414589 wrote:
Start reading stuff on mindfulness. Be fully engaged and effective in the task at hand and don't burn energy thinking about the last screw-up or the problem on the horizon. The idea is to "wire and fire," to repeatedly use neural pathways that end in positive thoughts. Because of the way the brain appears to work, we can train it to use certain pathways habitually. We can create positive habits to replace our old negative ones. The brain is plastic. Change your mind.


Great advice. I enjoy Mindfulness. My fav:

http://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Buddha-Within-Tibetan-Western/dp/0767901576/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197147071&sr=1-10
SteveDallas • Dec 8, 2007 4:46 pm
Griff;414589 wrote:
We can create positive habits to replace our old negative ones. The brain is plastic. Change your mind.

"Learned Optimism" by Martin Seligman.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 9, 2007 12:19 am
The best laid plans of mice and men.... act naturally.
ZenGum • Dec 9, 2007 12:30 am
Whaddaya mean, "act naturally"???

If it's acting it ain't natural, dang it. And t' other way round, too.
[/hillbilly]

PS. No idea where that hillbilly thing came from ... maybe irony about the act natural bit .. maybe something in DSM IV...
Ibby • Dec 9, 2007 1:04 am
Well which is it, young feller? Cause if'n I be actin', it ain't be natural! and if'n it be natural, it ain't be actin'.

(Raising Arizona!)
LJ • Dec 17, 2007 1:10 am
Elspode;412292 wrote:


2) A recording of LJ playing "Ring of Fire", with video.


working on this.....

i'll tell you i like 'walk the line' better, though. maybe i'll do both for ya.
binky • Dec 21, 2007 6:41 pm
Drax;413058 wrote:
Ok, but what if your insurance company decides not to pay for a life-saving procedure you or your family might need done?


From today' L.A. times

Friday, December 21, 2007
Teen dies hours after liver transplant OK'd; family to sue insurer
Alicia Chang / Associated Press
LOS ANGELES -- The family of a 17-year-old girl who died hours after her health insurer reversed a decision and said it would pay for a liver transplant plans to sue the company, their attorney said Friday.

Nataline Sarkisyan died Thursday at about 6 p.m. at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center. She had been in a vegetative state for weeks, said her mother, Hilda.

Attorney Mark Geragos said he plans to ask the district attorney to press murder or manslaughter charges against Cigna HealthCare in the case. The insurer "maliciously killed her" because it did not want to bear the expense of her transplant and aftercare, Geragos said.

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District Attorney spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons declined to comment on the request for murder or manslaughter charges, saying it would be inappropriate to do so until Geragos submits evidence supporting his request.

Phone calls to CIGNA officials Friday were not immediately returned.

Nataline had been battling leukemia and received a bone marrow transplant from her brother. She developed a complication that caused her liver to fail.

Doctors at UCLA determined she needed a transplant and sent a letter to Cigna Corp.'s Cigna HealthCare on Dec. 11. The Philadelphia-based health insurance company denied payment for the transplant, saying the procedure was experimental and outside the scope of coverage.

The insurer reversed the decision Thursday as about 150 teenagers and nurses rallied outside of its office. But Nataline died hours later.

"They took my daughter away from me," said Nataline's father, Krikor, who appeared at the news conference with his 21-year-old son, Bedros.

Despite the reversal, Cigna said in an e-mail statement before she died that there was a lack of medical evidence showing the procedure would work in Nataline's case.

"Our hearts go out to Nataline and her family, as they endure this terrible ordeal," the company said. "CIGNA HealthCare has decided to make an exception in this rare and unusual case and we will provide coverage should she proceed with the requested liver transplant."

In their letter, the UCLA doctors said patients in situations similar to Nataline's who undergo transplants have a six-month survival rate of about 65 percent.

One of the doctors, Robert Venick, declined to comment on Nataline's case when reached at his office Friday.
binky • Dec 21, 2007 6:41 pm
maybe this should have been in current events