Political Compass

Have you taken the test?

My political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.77

a little to the right of Ghandi. :)

I swear to Christ we had this linked before.

I remember something like this but couldn't find it.

If we've been there, done that, I could delete the friggin' thing.

Bear with me... i'm a noob. be nice to me. don't yell at me if i make a mistake.

Economic -7.75
A/L -7.03

Oh boy, I can hear the sirens wailing now...

Originally posted by dhamsaic
I swear to Christ we had this linked before.

Could be, but a search for "compass" doesn't hit it.

"Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.46"

Nic - not yelling. Just hoping to jog someone's memory so they dig up the old thread.

Maggie - I'll look now.

[Edit - Dammit Tony, help me out here. When'd we do this? It was to politicalcompass.org and I swear it wasn't that long ago. ]

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.59

this is almost exactly opposite of where i would have placed myself. wierd.

~james

YEAH!

I got to this question and after this, I <b>knew</b> I wasn't losing my mind.

<i>One day, science may be able to cure homosexuality.</i>

Remember - Tony answered "yes" because he feels that one day, we'll understand the human body and brain so well that we'll be able to change it - but he doesn't feel like homosexuality is a disease, and he's afraid that the answer was interpreted as though it <b>was</b> viewed as a disease.

Now where the fuck is that damn thread?

For the record, here's mine:

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.15

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 2.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.56


What does this mean for the future of society?

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?threadid=1125&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

All Right Squirells enjoy.


Oh yah that week I was an left/right economic 4.00 and Authoritarian/Libertarian -4.77

jaggy introduced it 1/2 way down page 2

It's an interesting test, as Jag said, so I'm happy to have resurected it and given it a separate thread where it might get more participation.

Come to think of it ... for all his protesting this time, dhamsaic didn't post his test results then. It's important we know where he stands, since he's the only one in the Cellar who has officially declared himself in the race for President. ;)

Wow Nic, all I have to do is teach you some economics and you'll be perfect. ;)

I believe sycamore is willing to be drafted as well but hasn't declared.

The questions do seem to pin down where folks are even if they leave a lot to be desired.

Originally posted by Nic Name
It's important we know where he stands, since he's the only one in the Cellar who has officially declared himself in the race for President. ;)

Yeah. Considering he's stated "Drugs and Prostitution" as one of his platform planks. Sounds more Libertarian than Republican, though.

Or is that two planks? dham, do you only support them together, or are they independant issues? :-)

dhams politics seem to be improving, UT must be keeping him after class.

The original thread was called US administration restricts Nov11 investigations -- of course, with the thread hijacking we were doing back then.

I re-took the test and went from 2.73/-5.74 to 2.38/-5.33. I guess my views have moderated in the last six months.

I can't wait for Jag to login, during the wee hours, and see that his politicalcompass suggestion took off again.

I'm with the pack at Econ L/R -2.88 and Authoritarian/Libertarian -6.41
Its interesting, but I see what you mean about the phrasing of the questions.

There is an interesting hole in the questions around the issue of business subsidy, which if included would move me left on the econ scale. I think my tolerance for the empty rhetoric of the left was pretty well whittled away taking education theory classes in school so while I may share many goals with lefties a quiz like this won't reflect it. If not already obvious, I believe in the primacy of the individual in all aspects of life including economics so if the choice is the individual or the state I choose the individual, if its the individual or the corporation its the individual. (griff cowardly trying to weasle his way toward the center)

Originally posted by Undertoad

I re-took the test and went from 2.73/-5.74 to 2.38/-5.33. I guess my views have moderated in the last six months.

I bet anybody taking the test often enough will converge to the center. :-)

Now I'm bringing that GIF up in the GIMP, to see if I can't get some better contrast on those colors; it's hard to tell some of them apart.

How did I miss this thread yesterday? *puts down crack pipe*

After taking it again several times, my number is about the same on the L/R, though my Libertarian number has dropped a little.

I think the econ questions are pulling my L/R number towards the center. I would say I'm pro-business, although I think its extremely important for a business to be a good member of its community. You won't find me at a G8/IMF/WTO protest...yet. ;)

Originally posted by MaggieL
I bet anybody taking the test often enough will converge to the center. :-)

You know, the first time I retook it yesterday, I went rather markedly towards the center (-2.5 and -4), to the point where it didn't seem right to me. I think I initially answered a lot of the questions luke warm, and did 3 more of them reading the questions more carefully and giving them more thought.

Admittedly, some of my responses remained "luke warm" (i.e. "agree" or "disagree"), but I couldn't imagine my stances changing that much in 3 months.

Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.05

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.95

Looks like we're all in about the same place politically. Which makes perfect sense, since we're known to debate the hell out of most anything.

waitaminute...

Actually, we're all just voices in Tony's head, arguing amongst ourselves. -- the Insane libertarian. [ed. note: small l libertarian, capital I Insane]

Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), formerly called Multiple Personality Disorder, has several diagnostic features:
• The presence of two or more distinct identities, each with its own unique, and enduring, way of relating to the world and self.
• At least two of these identities recurrently take control of the person’s behavior.
• An inability to recall important personal information to an extent that is more than ordinary forgetfulness. Classic examples are finding new clothes in your closet which you don’t remember buying; finding yourself in a place or situation and not being able to remember how you got there; having a complete loss of memory for what happened in the previous few days.

DID would not be diagnosed if the symptoms did not cause a major disturbance to the person’s life or if they were due to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g., drugs or alcohol) or a general medical condition.

That's a lower-case L libertarian mister, I dropped out of the cult of the Party some time ago.

Originally posted by Griff
I believe sycamore is willing to be drafted as well but hasn't declared.

Some may recall my political delusions of grandeur last summer. I'm quite happy in my current role as King of Torresdale. :)

Seriously, to run a country of 280 million people is an awesome responsibility. I can't even begin to imagine it. I'm going to stick with being an armchair politician for now. ;)

Although...I would like to be an ambassador. Dave, please keep me in your thoughts if you get elected. I'm thinking Mexico, Canada, the UK, Spain, or Samoa. I don't know if they elect the governor of Guam, the Marianas, or American Samoa (they do in PR), but those would also be acceptable.

Originally posted by Undertoad
That's a lower-case L libertarian mister, I dropped out of the cult of the Party some time ago.

Yes, he now runs an online cult based out of Montgomery County, PA. Something involving "cellar"...so I've heard. ;)

the Party parties on ... in the Cellar.

well, I just took it ... 2.50/0.92

Just for reference, here's mine. I took the test a few years ago and I seem to be in about the same place.

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.28

Have known of the link for a long time and was tempted to post in the cool site of the day, (cool for news/political junkies anyway). I didn't want to duplicate the effort of other dwellars' work, so I searched and found this thread.

I would be interested to see the results for others refreshed or in some cases, posted for the first time.

Here is my result:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

well, today i am:

Economic - Left/Right -.25
Social - Libertarian/Authoritartian -.26

kind of surprised me too.

Thought I'd do it again.

Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.64

It says I'm:

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36


What does that mean?

I am: -6.00/-4.72

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95

Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.00

For whatever THAT's worth. :eyebrow:

from what i see of this scale, i'm damn close to being a centrist, but in relation to the general cellar population i'm going to start hosting fundraisers for the nazi party soon.

Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

:confused:

Economic Left/Right: 2.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.26

I actually dislike the way several of the questions are phrased. I don't think there's enough subtelty to answer many of them accurately.

But all in all, I guess it really didn't deliver much in the way of suprises.

New numbas

Economic Left/Right: 4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62

Wow, my quadrant is very lonely. I'm in the lower right.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41


I'm between Nelson Mandella and The Dalai Lama as far as my non-authoritarianism (aka libertarianism) and I'm very much on the right for economics. I'm nearly in the exact position as Milton Friedman, only slightly less authoritarian (more libertarian) than him.

Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

hey, i'm rubbing political elbows with the dali lama. is that good?


edit: just noticed that i'm polar opposites with gWb. yep, id say that's good.

lumberjim wrote:

Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

hey, i'm rubbing political elbows with the dali lama. is that good?

Good question. Why don't you ask him?

Economic Left/Right: 3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

The only people near me are Undertoad and Chopin. Somehow, none of the power figures they give coordinates for are in the 4th Quadrant.

Griff is there with us!

That was then:

BigV;142278 wrote:

Have known of the link for a long time and was tempted to post in the cool site of the day, (cool for news/political junkies anyway). I didn't want to duplicate the effort of other dwellars' work, so I searched and found this thread.

I would be interested to see the results for others refreshed or in some cases, posted for the first time.

Here is my result:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

This is now:

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

My economic perspective seems stable, but I'm having a pretty strong negative reaction to the current fad of strongmen as political leaders.

Old numbas

Economic Left/Right: 4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62

New numbas (15 yrs later)

Economic Left/Right: 0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67

I did score -3 on the Social at some point, it would be interesting to work out which questions led to that

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Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69

glatt;142324 wrote:

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95

Today:

Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

I thought we were supposed to get more conservative as we age? And apparently I hate the government more than ever. When I search my feelings, it's true.

I know I've posted results from this thing before, but apparently not in this thread... Anyway, here's today:

Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.1

lumberjim;142499 wrote:

Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

hey, i'm rubbing political elbows with the dali lama. is that good?


edit: just noticed that i'm polar opposites with gWb. yep, id say that's good.

-2.13;-3.64

Here is where I'm at RFN this may change depending on who's in charge. We are having a party in here.
Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72

Here is today. Still not real good with authority. madhop:
I'm starting to wonder if I'm ever going to grow up?

"I'm starting to wonder if I'm ever going to grow up?"
"Growing older is mandatory, growing up is is not."
Jimmy Buffet

like that

Clodfobble;423985 wrote:

June 2005:

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26

January 2008:

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

Looks like I went lefter, and more libertarian.

Clodfobble;1044362 wrote:

I know I've posted results from this thing before, but apparently not in this thread... Anyway, here's today:

Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.1

Holy Moley! Did you fall asleep near a large seed pod or something?

She likes to hang with the cool kids.

This is old fogies, you'll find the cool kids in the hall.

sexobon;1044398 wrote:

... you'll find the cool kids in the hall.

... smoking cigarettes.

sexobon wrote:

Holy Moley! Did you fall asleep near a large seed pod or something?

My attitude's changed over the years, but to be fair, so have the questions on the test. Plus they've always been pretty reductive--a lot of the statements I viewed as "true, but only up to a point, after which definitely not"--but there was no button for that.

Plus, you know, spending an average of $20,000 a year in medical costs for a decade really tends to make a person believe in universal healthcare.

Economic Left/Right: -5.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

Hey sexobon, the water is fine. Come on in! Post your results.

I haven't taken the test.

It doesn't let one read all the questions beforehand to check for leading questions and leaning patterns of questions. It's easy to make the first page look neutral; then, introduce direction. Comparing the content, context*, and structure of all the questions to each other helps determine the usefulness of the test; but, I'm not interested enough in the subject matter to bother putting mock answers in to first see all of it. This test just didn't seem like fun to me.

But then, I've been a test developer (and questions writer) in a formal academic setting. That included proctoring the administration of my tests to sample target audiences and statistical analysis, via software, for validity. YMMV.

*Even the sequencing of questions can affect the answers obtained.

Cop out. :rolleyes:

I'd rather hang with the cool kids.

I was gonna take the test but couldn't get past the first statement...

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

I know what I think the statement means but I don't know what they actually mean.

It might be interesting to discuss the questions too

"Agree"

For example, globalization will lead to deals with dictators who use slave labor camps. In this case, the trans-national corporations that are willing to make those deals have an advantage over those not willing to make those deals. Such deals should not happen.

On the other hand, you could say, it "just does" serve humanity when the deals are between trans-national corporations. The evidence is kinda in: it's lifted a billion people out of extreme poverty, and this is giving the world a path to become middle class.

So what you really want is for that trade to happen, but with enough oversight between trading partners so that basic human rights aren't violated.

And, uh, I guess, such a world could use economic sanctions if the wealth from these deals is used to gain political or military power. I guess

[strike]If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.[/strike]

If transnational corporations inevitably increase economic globalization, their priority should be doing it without degrading humanity.

Transnational corporations are one of the means serving towards the end state of economic globalization. Economic globalization is a condition, not an entity that serves.

The original question can be seen as reversing the roles of cause and effect, making economic globalization the cause and the interests of transnational corporations an effect.

Questions causing confusion; or, open to multiple interpretations are poorly written. Some writers of such questions do it deliberately because it makes them feel clever or superior to the reader who's guessing at their intended meaning.

The question is straight forward if you don't try to pick it apart looking for hidden meanings as a cover for not wanting to reveal what a bastard you really are.

Economic Left/Right: -5.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

xoxoxoBruce;1044507 wrote:

The question is straight forward if you don't try to pick it apart looking for hidden meanings as a cover for not wanting to reveal what a bastard you really are.

Bein' a shameless bastid, I need no cover. No, the question sucks, plain and simple.

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

My translation: When all borders dissolve, state socialists rather than state capitalists ought to benefit.

State capitalism is only a little better than state socialism, but it is better, so I'd be inclined to disagree.

I'm thinkin' my interpretation isn't what 'they' had in mind.

sexobon;1044549 wrote:

Economic Left/Right: -5.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

Liar.

henry quirk;1044560 wrote:

I'm thinkin' my interpretation isn't what 'they' had in mind.

They're saying the question is not whether should happen or not but when it does who should benefit, people or Corporations?

This not a lifetime binding examination, you're not commiting your future and you children's future to the result. It's a monday pop quiz to see how you feel about shit today, it may not be the same as yesterday or tomorrow.

xoxoxoBruce;1044583 wrote:

Liar.

I told the truth...right here:

sexobon;1044435 wrote:

I haven't taken the test.

I never said those numbers were my results and I'll bet you're the only one who noticed they weren't. :p:

xoxoxoBruce;1044583 wrote:

They're saying the question is not whether should happen or not but when it does who should benefit, people or Corporations?

This not a lifetime binding examination, you're not commiting your future and you children's future to the result. It's a monday pop quiz to see how you feel about shit today, it may not be the same as yesterday or tomorrow.

I'm a natural rights anarchist by nature and a natural rights libertarian minarchist by choice.

I'd say my take on shit is well established.