Novel way to control health costs

TheMercenary • Nov 18, 2007 11:14 am
33-year-old Rowan Trezise planned to move to New Zealand with her husband, but was told she was too fat. The British woman along with her husband tried to get into the country for residence, but were told they were too fat and could be a burden on their health care system.



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ZenGum • Nov 18, 2007 11:49 am
TheMercenary;408237 wrote:
33-year-old Rowan Trezise planned to move to New Zealand with her husband, but was told she was too fat. The British woman along with her husband tried to get into the country for residence, but were told they were too fat and could be a burden on their health care system.
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She's fatter than you realise - she's Rowan Treesize!

Seriously, I think most countries don't allow immigration for people with health problems. Serious obesity is a new one as far as I know though.
binky • Nov 18, 2007 12:00 pm
So New Zealand has hung up a giant "no fat chicks" sign - interesting
ZenGum • Nov 18, 2007 12:05 pm
binky;408253 wrote:
So New Zealand has hung up a giant "no fat chicks" sign - interesting


Ever seen a Maori woman? They tend to run on the large side. And quite a few Euro-Kiwis are of Scottish descent and there's some size in that gene pool too.
I guess the sign reads "No NEW fat chicks".
DanaC • Nov 18, 2007 12:06 pm
No new fat sheilas surely?
ZenGum • Nov 18, 2007 12:08 pm
:smack:

"No fat chucks"


Sorry Bandito
TheMercenary • Nov 18, 2007 12:37 pm
ZenGum;408250 wrote:

Seriously, I think most countries don't allow immigration for people with health problems. Serious obesity is a new one as far as I know though.

Oh, you mean like the US who lets any swinging immigrant dick in?
icileparadise • Nov 18, 2007 1:27 pm
I'm thinking if that country is going to deny residency on medical grounds, in this case clinical obesity, why are they not testing all applicants for such costly health care problems such as tumors or cancers which are undiagnosed as yet by the applicants? When those bad boys turn malignant an obese persons' drain on health care costs is far less. High blood pressure prescriptions are tiny, in terms of time and cost, compared to oncology treatments. Seems unfair.
Aliantha • Nov 18, 2007 4:40 pm
Any idea what the number one cause of death is among people in Australia and NZ (and I suspect most other western nations) is? That's right, heart disease. Any idea what one of the biggest contributors to heart disease is? Right again. Being overweight and living a sedentry lifestyle.

Hospitals spend far more money on people with heart disease than anything else. That's why countries don't want extra people who are fat. We've got enough of our own already.
Aliantha • Nov 18, 2007 4:41 pm
Incidentally, you can't adopt a child if you're considered obese either.
lookout123 • Nov 18, 2007 5:55 pm
are they afraid you'll just fatten them up for christmas dinner?
Aliantha • Nov 18, 2007 6:09 pm
well, on the surface of it, that is how it might seem, but no, that's not the reason.

It's about giving the child the best quality of life, and if their parent/s might drop dead from a heart attack, well, that wouldn't be very good. Also, they're taking into consideration the parents ability to play with the child in a meaningful way.
lookout123 • Nov 18, 2007 6:36 pm
i think hollering "Fetch me another drumstick" 10 or 15 times a day can be very meaningful.;)
monster • Nov 18, 2007 7:31 pm
TheMercenary;408267 wrote:
Oh, you mean like the US who lets any swinging immigrant dick in?


That's bullshit. It's incredibly hard to immigrate to the US and the health requirements are one of the hardest things to get through.

Of course if you're talking illegals, that's a whole different kettle of fish, but don't go lumping us all together. We jumped through a ridiculous number of hoops to be granted residency, and yet we draw nothing from govt resources and pay our way with taxes etc, without receiving the right to vote.

Your comment comes across as unsubstantiated rightwing kneejerk rhetoric.
jinx • Nov 18, 2007 7:33 pm
High blood pressure prescriptions are tiny, in terms of time and cost, compared to oncology treatments. Seems unfair.



They were talking about a study on the radio the other day that linked certain cancers with obesity. I'm just sayin'...
ZenGum • Nov 18, 2007 7:36 pm
Aliantha;408330 wrote:
well, on the surface of it, that is how it might seem, but no, that's not the reason.

It's about giving the child the best quality of life, and if their parent/s might drop dead from a heart attack, well, that wouldn't be very good. Also, they're taking into consideration the parents ability to play with the child in a meaningful way.


Playing Human-Bouncy-Castle is always fun! :)
binky • Nov 18, 2007 7:37 pm
Well, as a fat chick with normal blood pressure and blood sugar who walks 2 miles a day, I am still offended
Aliantha • Nov 18, 2007 7:40 pm
what are you offended by binky?
monster • Nov 18, 2007 7:41 pm
DanaC;408258 wrote:
No new fat sheilas surely?


I thought it was Aussies used that term -do Kiwis too?
binky • Nov 18, 2007 7:41 pm
the idea that I could not live wherever I like
monster • Nov 18, 2007 7:42 pm
No-one can live wherever they like
monster • Nov 18, 2007 7:43 pm
emmigration is hard and expensive
binky • Nov 18, 2007 7:43 pm
well until this thread, I didn't agree
Aliantha • Nov 18, 2007 7:43 pm
but it wasn't made a rule in order to be offensive. You choose to be the size you are (presumably and for the sake of the argument) just like me and anyone else here. With that, you choose the consequences in my opinion. One of those consequences is that you might have trouble being granted permission to live in another country.

You also might die young from a heart attack.

I know which one I'm more worried about.
binky • Nov 18, 2007 7:44 pm
LOL true
monster • Nov 18, 2007 7:45 pm
you can't necessarily even live in the city you want to -if no-one there will employ you or the housing is out of your price range, or your same-sex marriage isn't recognised......
binky • Nov 18, 2007 7:48 pm
Actually the housing price thing is why we moved to a small town - with lotsa fat chicks :rolleyes:
binky • Nov 18, 2007 7:48 pm
gn all have to finish making dinner
Aliantha • Nov 18, 2007 7:53 pm
cya binky. :)
monster • Nov 18, 2007 7:56 pm
binky;408380 wrote:
gn all have to finish making dinner



easy on the extra cheese, mkay? ;)
TheMercenary • Nov 18, 2007 8:01 pm
Maybe we could make a rule that no illegal aliens may sneak into our country without a health inspection. Wait, that might not work...
monster • Nov 18, 2007 8:15 pm
but that's the only way the US is letting everybody and anybody in. The legal way is tough and includes medical criteria.