What’s Irritating the Sh*t out of me!
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Totally different than Upsetting – cause I’m not upset – I’m irritated, pissed, annoyed whatever works.
Telemarketers. We get calls constantly for free magazine subscriptions, pertaining to our field of work. But, before we renew your subscriptions can you please answer a few questions. Can you accept this “free subscriptions” for (“whoever”), yes. Because (“whoever”, I know, does not want to talk to these people). So I deal with it. Then they begin their questions, of about 10 – 15. Does it really matter what the answer is, if the magazine is “geared” to our field it would still be in the freakin’ magazine. And for the love of God, please speak to where I understand exactly what the crap your askin’. [/FONT]
What would happen if you said you do not want their "free" subscription? Does "whoever" read them or need them?
Yeah, I hate the "answer a few simple questions" and it turns into a marathon!
To be quite honest, they mostly stack up and gather dust. I don't even know what magazine it was - I couldn't understand half of what she was asking. Just alot of Yes, Yes, Yes - No, No, No. I swear even if I did say - "No we don't want it", they'd call back next week. It's Crazy.
lol...I can hear it now:
Caller: Can you answer a few simple questions for me?
Jester: Huh? Oh, yeah, sure I guess
Caller: Does your company blah blah blah?
Jester: Yes
Caller: Is your company in the blah blah blah?
Jester: No
Caller: Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Jester: No
Caller: Do you like gladiators?
Jester: Yes
Caller: Thank you for your time. Your subscription to Blah Blah will arrive in 6 to 8 weeks.
Jester: Huh?
lol...I can hear it now:
Caller: Can you answer a few simple questions for me?
Jester: Huh? Oh, yeah, sure I guess
Caller: Does your company blah blah blah?
Jester: Yes
Caller: Is your company in the blah blah blah?
Jester: No
Caller: Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Jester: No
Caller: Do you like gladiators?
Jester: Yes
Caller: Thank you for your time. Your subscription to Blah Blah will arrive in 6 to 8 weeks.
Jester: Huh?
Absolutely True!:D
Prep for
colonoscopy, I believe.
Ahh, I thought it meant "fertilizer" or something. Kind of like the "weed" thing. Gotcha! Thanks!
Indeed, LabRat... hence... irritating the shit out of me. :angel:
boy, I'm dense today! :blush:
From what I've been told, unfortunately by the guys around here, it is irritating. Yuck:greenface
Jester...we already talked about this! It's time for you to make their life a nightmare!!!
Waste their time. They aren't going to quit calling. So have a little fun with it....
:)
I like the way you think, Cic!
Jester...we already talked about this! It's time for you to make their life a nightmare!!!
Waste their time. They aren't going to quit calling. So have a little fun with it....
:)
I know, I know. It's like this every freakin' week. If not the "this is AT&T, we just recently combined with "Bellsouth". What exactly is recent? They've been saying that for almost a year or longer. It's the Magazines companies or Pre-recorded calls - this is "whoever" with NSBA your "pre-approved" for a loan. Blah, Blah, Blah. I could always "adopt" someother kind of language or accent. Typically, I can catch them at the very beginning and say - I've already talked with someone and I'm not interested, thank you. "click"
I already told you to do what my boss does...which is hilarious...If it's a guy..talk about their penis size. If it's a foreign guy and you can't get throught their accent...ask if they beat their wife. Get personal. They are interrupting your life. Waste their time and talk about inappropriate subjects. Ask about Jesus. Do they believe in Jesus? Inform them about the benefits of accepting Jesus into their heart, and don't stop.
This shady internet pill company keeps calling my boss everyday, and she takes the time to multi-task, she works and keeps them on the line to fuck up their day too. Because no matter what she says...she gets the same company every other day. I heard one call recently that was funny.
Guy from india accent: So, you do not currently take any medication?
My boss: No, pencil dick, I do not. Is it true what they say about your small penis sizes in your country?
Guy from India: Well, you should be taking your medication...
Me: lol!!!
Why the EFF does a company in India want to know about someone's meds? I know my answer would be "it's none of your fucking business, asshole."
Waste their time. They aren't going to quit calling. So have a little fun with it....
Bear in mind these people are just trying to do a job, with tight targets and heavily commission based wages. Waste their time and you reduce their orders and thus reduce their wage packet. Just stop 'em when they start and tell 'em you aren't interested. If they persist tell them to stop wasting their time on you and call someone who might give them an order.
I've done telesales and telecanvassing and it's a miserable shitty job for the most part. It is however a job that requires little in terms of formal training or qualifications...except in India where you pretty much have to be a university graduate. Even so, think about it. Think about having to go and do that every day as your job.
They're just people. Some of them are trying to communicate on those phone calls in a language they are only just proficient in. You don't have to put up with it, just tell them to go away. But why actually seek to waste the time of someone who's on commission? It's not like it's the same person each time just pestering you. They have a screen in front of em and numbers on the screen. They sit there for hours at a time ringing the numbers on the screen and talking to people who don't want to talk to them. Fucking depressing job.
I know finding a job can be tough (and I did some telemarketing years ago for Olan Mills and it WAS horrible and I only lasted about a week until they put me in the store trying to make people buy pics of their kids which is when I found out I will never be a good salesperson, but I digress) but what would be the incentive to do such a job? Are the commissions really good if you DO make a sale? Is it flexible hours, or good benefits? Otherwise, I can't see someone choosing it as a job. There must be something that attracts them to choose it over all the other crappy jobs out there.
Can a company go on the Do Not Call registry?
Did I mention that I used to work those floors, then manage, and hire, for a phone polling company?
Did I mention that I created, and implemented door-knocking programs for a different company?
On the phones:
Did I catch people hitting "call back tomorrow" instead of the correct button of "never call back". Yes....I was on the floor, trained other people, and monitored for a couple of companies.
I am the phone polling queen my dear....tell it to someone that hasn't ever been there.
I'll tell you that they do call back after you say not interested, they only punch never call back if you are irate and threaten to litigate. When you hit "not interested" it puts their number right back in the call group for their area and it is recycled.
But fuck me, I have no compassion and don't "get it". I know exactly what the protocol is for calling companies.
Point being: Jester, you have to say and do some pretty screwed up stuff not to be rehashed on their list. The definite way to be off the list is threaten to litigate, and ask to talk to their supervisor 9 out of 10, they are instructed to make sure your number is never called again. Or insult them until they cry. One thing I have seen them do (remote monitor) is punch "call back tomorrow" if someone pisses them off. If you are inappropriate the whole way through, and are abusive...they are instructed to tell you so, and punch never call back. Or you could pretend to have alzheimer's which really annoys the hell out of the "interviewer". That's another "never call back".
Did your supervisor tell you Dana, that "not interested" merely means, call at a different time with another "interviewer" calling out? Did you know that "random dialing" is not random? This means you hope to catch someone different at the location with a different person calling. This pisses people off. And I do not blame them. But it works often enough to keep doing it, until someone threatens to sue.
Did you know that the difference between the poller and the target is that the poller is trained to not take the call seriously and the target you are bothering is not?
Now I'm irritated.... See Jester...it works. I'm still paying for my crimes. I was the worst. You Jester, were probably a statistic sitting in my dialer. And the people we are supposed to have compassion for? Well- I've gotten the great honor of monitoring them without them being aware, I was also one of them but as nice as could be... The pollers and TM and cust service that pissed me off the most just hung up after someone answered hello, and just sat around waiting for another call to rotate and connect so they could just hang up again. Until they are caught by their manager and hung out to dry, unless they are currently screwing said manager.
Rant. Rant.. Rant.
Excuse me. Knee-jerk.
you have to say and do some pretty screwed up stuff not to be rehashed on their list.
At one point I was getting a call every couple weeks or so from Allstate trying to sell me insurance. I usually politely told them I was already a satisfied Allstate customer--please take me off your list--and hung up. One night I was fed up with other things and the call was the final straw. I told the guy that I already had auto & home insurance from them, and had for over X years, and that I was tired of them calling me. And that the next time they called, I would CANCEL my Allstate policies and go to one of their competitors. I never heard from them again.
Half the time you get a call within a few hours or the next day from the same company asking the same thing. That's irritating!
Did I mention that I used to work those floors, then manage, and hire, for a phone polling company?
Nope
Did I mention that I created, and implemented door-knocking programs for a different company?
Nope
I am the phone polling queen my dear....tell it to someone that hasn't ever been there.
Well, now we know.
You have a really short fuse don't you Cicero?
If it's a foreign guy and you can't get throught their accent...ask if they beat their wife. Get personal.
And you think that's an appropriate response? Personally I don't. You may be the phone polling Queen but that doesn't mean you know every pollster's circumstances or story. Nor do you know every company's culture or problems. I worked in telesales and telecanvassing for years and most of the people I worked with were underpaid and overworked and usually treated like groundfeeders within the company as a whole.
It is never acceptable imo to be rude to people. It is perfectly acceptable to be firm. Just my perspective.
I typically am not rude to them on the phone - regardless who it is. Unless they start first. I do remember one time, I guess I had the guy very frustrasted, that he ended the conversation with.."Well, thank you very much Miss Secretary Lady". What a snot.
And there is NO repercussion. My ex is very firm about telling people he is not interested, and is not rude unless provoked. One f***er, after he told him he wasn't interested, said to him in a heavy accent "I bet you have small dick" or something like that. You can't call them back, you can't report them, you just have to sit there and feel violated that they basically walked into YOUR home and said that to you.
Huh uh, I say.
I'm still wondering about motivation for such a job (see post # 19). Though I realize it may be the only choice for some, is it the only choice for the thousands upon thousands there must be? There must be SOMETHING attractive about it.
How many telemarketers does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one, but they have to do it while you're eating dinner.
A quick sorry to Cicero for a snippy post yesterday, I'm not feeling the best at the moment and I seem to be bringing it to the board.
One of my bosses. Well technically he is not, he’s a construction manager, but he is a brother to the President of the company. Anyhoo, yesterday he walks into my office and asks if I turned in a certificate of insurance for a job that we were working on. “Yes”. “Oh well”, he says, “I haven’t even signed the contract yet, I guess I need to do that”. Ya think? He had just told me we were also finished with the job and that I can go ahead and bill it. Idiot. This same individual, made a comment about our dumpster being picked up by the dump truck every week. The dump truck would pull in and pickup the dumpster, unload it and set it back down. Every week this was done. During that ongoing process, large, deep tracks were being formed. So his reply to this was, “I guess that dumpster is pretty heavy”. :eyebrow: What! Are you freakin’ serious? It’s the truck you moron. There’s what, atleast 6 to 8 large wheels on these stupid things. The dumpster is a small sq. one. Dork! And he gets paid more than me! Hello McFly! This crap goes on every week. I’m gonna need a drool cup attached to my chin, before too long. :headshake
I agree. I try to be pleasant, it's just so frustrating to talk to the same companies every week, just different people.
If you tell someone that you are not interested and they do not end the call they are being rude and want you to be rude in return.
People only communicate in the way that they wish to be communicated with in return. Psychological fact, they may not be aware of it, but it is true.
If you start off polite and they are rude in return they are telling you what they want.
Not ending the call after you have asked is rude, end of story.
All cold-calling and door-to-door should be illegal.
I worked in sales for a few years in Ins. incoming calls only.
When asked to cold-call I refused and would have gotten another job if it came to that.
You choose the job you have.
Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Here’s another on the same construction manager. Before he became “educated”, he worked for us as a sheet metal journeyman. We had a large job for ALCOA. They had made several pieces of ductwork (approx. 100 or more). They were in the process of making a delivery and was placing the ductwork in a truck. He was told to write every piece down on a piece of paper before loading them into the truck. To keep track of each piece, so duplication would not happen. He finally got the truck loaded and they were getting ready to leave. The foreman asked him where the sheet was with the parts listed. He told him he didn’t make a list. The foreman said, “why not”? CM’s response was, “I didn’t have a pencil”. Obviously, there’s been no improvement over the years.
And there is NO repercussion. My ex is very firm about telling people he is not interested, and is not rude unless provoked. One f***er, after he told him he wasn't interested, said to him in a heavy accent "I bet you have small dick" or something like that. You can't call them back, you can't report them, you just have to sit there and feel violated that they basically walked into YOUR home and said that to you.
Huh uh, I say.
I'm still wondering about motivation for such a job (see post # 19). Though I realize it may be the only choice for some, is it the only choice for the thousands upon thousands there must be? There must be SOMETHING attractive about it.
How many telemarketers does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one, but they have to do it while you're eating dinner.
Shawnee-
Part of remote monitoring is the fact that you can still hear what people are saying into their headset inbetween calls. Sometimes they think the person has hung up, and they haven't. Then they get to hear what the interviewer has to say about the random person they just talked to......But the person sometimes has not hung up yet, and gets an earful of the unexpected. These people
do get in trouble with their monitor...bad trouble. They are called into the office to talk to a what was, irritated me. You guys think I'm rude? Do you know what the person calling you
has been saying about you? Especially if they have called you twice and they don't like you? I have heard some stuff spoken into headsets that would make the devil cry.
Dana is right...there are different companies with different requirements and standards. The programs I created were not aggressive, and it simply was what it was: Really just seeing if you are interested and if you are not...you are not. Thank you for your time and goodbye. We worked from an organic business model which was not off-putting to anyone really....but marketing in it's very essence is usually sociopathic. Sorry if I've been rude guys..I've just spent a lot of time thinking about this subject because it's still my job, (in a very different way now) and I have to be careful about stepping over the line.
Dana thinks I don't have no compassion...and I do. I hired and trained some people just because they didn't know the basic functions and operations of a computer, and I was going to be damned if they were going to try and walk through this world not knowing how to click with a mouse. I was caught hiring these people and was caught spending extra time training them on the company dime. They had good personalities, and wouldn't be the people saying nasty stuff about the client company or the target into their headset. They just needed to learn basic computer stuff and needed to be given a chance for once. Yes, I hired felons. Some were still even in jail and were serving a work-release duty. Tell me I don't have compassion. P'shaw...But some really are assholes folks...
Hey...I think my rant is over. I apologize to anyone that was hurt by my big club in this thread. I just don't want to accept any patronizing attitudes...that is rude.
All cold-calling and door-to-door should be illegal.
I worked in sales for a few years in Ins. incoming calls only.
*dingdingding* failed salesperson alert.
failing salesperson:
This sucks, my production is way down and I can't get it to turn around.
salesmanager:
Have you thought about asking someone to buy?
failing salesperson:
I'd like to but the phone hasn't made a noise all day.
salesmanager:
Have you thought about either calling someone, or going to meet someone?
failing salesperson:
No! That is beneath me, I'm done here.
*sound of door closing behind failed salesperson*
- that being said there is a huge difference between cold/warm calling and being a telemarketer.
I don't think it should be illegal. There's lots of lonely old people out there that want people to talk to, and sure, you might not get a sale or whatever...but it's actually quite heart-warming when you think you brightened their lonely little world.
Someday I will be that person.
Yeah, my 95 year old grandmother (who still lives alone but is of course not as sharp as she was when she was, say 85 :)) has got some doozy of some calls trying to get her to buy this or that. I think my aunt finally got her on the Do Not Call registry, but preying on the elderly is a special kind of low.:headshake
Yeah, my 95 year old grandmother (who still lives alone but is of course not as sharp as she was when she was, say 85 :)) has got some doozy of some calls trying to get her to buy this or that. I think my aunt finally got her on the Do Not Call registry, but preying on the elderly is a special kind of low.:headshake
:D
No really...from what I have seen, most people become super-curteous when dealing with the older folks...strange...but true.
They talk for quite some time and back down a bit from selling them the latest line of bullshit...well a lot of people do. I have. Just because they are a corporate target doesn't mean that the
human being on the phone sees it that way.......Reaffirms my belief in humanity. But no...most normal people realize that the person isn't with it, and if they can, they will bullshit about their kids, their family and whatever...and try to get the person off the line.....they are corporate targets. Usually not the actual target of the humans that deal with them. Most people do resist, and people do get angry at their company for continually trying to target them. There is no "alzheimers" or "too old" button.
A lot of people work around that. Some don't. Because they are shits with no conscience.
So plbbbt...!
:)
*dingdingding* failed salesperson alert.
failing salesperson: This sucks, my production is way down and I can't get it to turn around.
salesmanager: Have you thought about asking someone to buy?
failing salesperson: I'd like to but the phone hasn't made a noise all day.
salesmanager: Have you thought about either calling someone, or going to meet someone?
failing salesperson: No! That is beneath me, I'm done here.
*sound of door closing behind failed salesperson*
- that being said there is a huge difference between cold/warm calling and being a telemarketer.
Wrong, stalker, as usual. I was promoted & with the company for another three years.
They started a cold-call department that was very short lived because it is wrong, rude, and no one likes it. I did tell them my take on it (beneath me and immoral) and the manager asking me to do it told me he personally agreed with me and said "no problem Rob, go get back on the phone".
My sales numbers were above average for my company, which had
very high standards.
*Laughs at you*
Thanks for the ignorance this time, it did make me laugh out loud this time, you are back to your stalking standards!
you got it tough guy. so damn good at everything you ever did (which appears to be everything but die) that you haven't lasted too long at any of it.
My sales numbers were above average for my company, which had very high standards.
and yeah, inbound call center sales jobs are definitely where to look for the best in the sales industry.
No, actually, there have been a few things I sucked at.
Outside advertising sales, I really stunk at it, but I had a lot going against me.
However, I still think I would not have done well, just not suited to my talents or personality.
I was not only doing sales but underwriting as well, and we did set the standard for the industry for years.
There is not one insurance company that does not use our model in some way now.
You sure have a problem with me... it's funny.
what certifications did you hold?
I could give a shit if you belive me, I don't play the "prove it" game.
i just wondered what qualifications you carried in to be able to underwrite insurance policies at this highly rated company. CLU? CPCU?
I gotta pee. That's irritating.
Anyone with a 220 underwrites as they write, they have to.
Even 440s do do a degree.
I swear, I think the CM's umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck when he came out of the womb.
Dana thinks I don't have no compassion....
Not true.
Today , well
:rant:
My Easy ass Early day for tomorrow has been DASHED ,
instead i get to Leave at 4am to drive 2 hrs to meet my boss for parts ,
then drive 2 more hrs to UnFUCK a job a coworker went on today ,
then I get to drive 2 more hrs to UnFuck Another of his jobs ,
these are Both 3-4 hour jobs (IF I am lucky) with with about 8-9 hours of driving .
[COLOR="Red"]This is getting OLD !!!!![/COLOR]
(and Yes I edited out the parts about the Dumb ass fucker that I am having to go behind )
My Jeep has been in the shop since Tuesday because [short version] there was a cd stuck in the player. The long version involves recalls, software updates and 3 visits for the same complaint, but the reason it was there for 3 days (and I was driving a mini-van) was the cd player.
So, I go pick it up today, and I'm a few miles down 202, and I realize the nav (in the replacement cd player) is afu. They don't know why but the nav screen says something about a software update... I guess I'll be taking it back in...
(and Yes I edited out the parts about the Dumb ass fucker that I am having to go behind )
is it dumb ass-fucker or dumb-ass fucker?
it is a StUUUUUUUipid Person that should be something else for a job !!!
My Jeep has been in the shop since Tuesday because [short version] there was a cd stuck in the player.
i think this story really started with some douchebag car jag ripping you off.:D
Yea, I've been needling him about lemon laws and such...
Every fucker that asks me to "race" then laughing their asses off. It's always a total stranger.
Went to a wedding tonight... WTF is it with racing people in chairs?
Yeah, I'm slower than you because my legs don't work, laugh it up shit-head its a hoot for us all.
That and the "test drive" line...
What happened to "hi"?
Every fucker that asks me to "race" then laughing their asses off. It's always a total stranger.
Went to a wedding tonight... WTF is it with racing people in chairs?
Yeah, I'm slower than you because my legs don't work, laugh it up shit-head its a hoot for us all.
That and the "test drive" line...
What happened to "hi"?
Holy FSM, do people really say shit like that? How rude can you get?
Which is worse, RK? "Wanna race?" or "May we pray for you?"?
I don't think you should carry a gun. One day the temptation will be too strong for you to resist, and while the world will benefit from the removal of a stupid and/or rude jerk, I doubt if the jury will appreciate this service.
ok, what does FSM mean?
:fsm: :fsm: :fsm: :fsm: :fsm: :fsm:
The great and holy
Flying Spaghetti Monster, of course (bless his Noodly Appendages) who created the universe after a hard night drinking and who is worshiped through the Church or Pastafarianism.
RAmen.
oh yeah that's right. I saw that definition last week.
forgive me. I've been sipping a little this arvy.
Did I really say, "Dana thinks I don't have no compassion?"
Holy Shit.
Dana....please don't respond...that's embarrassing enough as it is....
:)
Idiots who get so close to my back bumper that all I can see in my rear-view mirror is their windshield. I swear if I would have stopped, that car would have been so far up my butt, I would have crapped car parts for a month.
Idiots who get so close to my back bumper that all I can see in my rear-view mirror is their windshield. I swear if I would have stopped, that car would have been so far up my butt, I would have crapped car parts for a month.
Especiallly when it's the police...I hear ya.
:D
:mad2: :rar: :flipbird: :angry: :rattat: some dumb son of a bitch at the processing company just fukced the duck and it is going to cost me about $15K. there's a reason these bastards are always in another state!
Ouch:( I have no idea what it is that's just happened, but it sounds bad and I got the bit about $15k. Bad luck mate.
$15K?!! Does this dumb SOB lose his job or get a reprimand or anything?
Can you at least deduct it as a business expense or something?
lose his job? pfft, no - why would he? he said he was sorry. dumb bastard. see i suppose the mistake was really mine, i mean i did initiate the screw up by faxing the instruction to him. then he took the instruction, read it, realized what he was holding, scanned it into the proper database, then he manually entered it into the completely wrong system resulting in a market loss of $15K. dumb son of a bitch. no, he will be retrained on his job. apparently it isn't kosher to just drag him out and shoot him.
yeah, i'll get to deduct it though. yay. i'd rather spend it. i already had it earmarked for new turf in the backyard and a couple other things. oh well.:sadpace:
eh, that's life. i'll go for a nice long run tonight and kick a ball into a net until my feet fell like they're going to fall off and i'll be fine.
my father once scolded me when i was bitching about a similar (but much smaller) loss. paraphrase, "you've made more in a month than i made in some years. bad shit's going to happen and some months will be ugly, sometimes due to your own mistakes, sometimes due to other people's actions. in any month that you have enough money to pay your bills you aren't allowed to bitch about money that you don't have."
that was the gist of it anyway.
Just curious for those of you in the US, aren't you on the do not call list?
Just curious for those of you in the US, aren't you on the do not call list?
I don't know...ask my "friends".
:)
i'm not. they can try to pitch me anything they want. hell, i offered one guy a job because he was pretty good.
On the Do No Call List - since this is a "business", it pretty much doesn't apply to us.
btw
Shopping aisles. Basically, there is enough room for two buggies to pass each other with no major difficulty. However, when some moron is walking beside the buggy and you have to wait because they are too stupid to get behind the person they are with so you can actually pass. Idiots. I know it's only going to get worse.
I think some people think that if they are in an aisle, the chances that anyone else could possibly want to come down that aisle are pretty effing slim, so why not park the cart in the middle and wander up and down looking at stuff (of course, after they've stopped laying across the cart like it's responsible for their life.)
Oh yeah, pet peeves. :)
How about when you move their irresponsibly parked cart outta the way - the looks you get.... LOL
This place is awful. I noticed since I got here that the flaming rich will bump your arm and grab stuff around you like you aren't there. They will hit you and not even say excuse me. The next time someone thinks running over me to grab a can of soup is a keen thing to do...they are going to get a scolding. People here think they have a right to cut in front of you in line and hit you to grab an item.
One lady a the bank thought she was going to cut in front of me, and one of the tellers noticed and waved me over quickly, and we listened to her huff and puff impatiently. Even the teller rolled her eyes.
This stuff happened where I used to live, but mostly people let you have your personal space...in fact, they would stand away from others as if they were diseased. I think I preferred that. Not here....
[reply to Shawnee]
Simple ... move the dumb bugger's cart. And watch how outraged they get when they see you have dared to move THEIR cart. OMG! This is amusing, and I'm always ready with a gushing apology, oh I'm so sorry.
I handle aisle blockers by turning my head to scan the shelves and moving very very slowly ... bump with trolley... apology time. This is the one time when the crappy rattly wheel on the cart is useful; if they have half of their wits about them, then they might hear you coming.
Something I'm sometimes tempted to do, but never quite got over the apathy threshold to actually do, is to drop random items into other people's shopping carts. Especially if it is something potentially embarrassing like condoms or tampons or some such. Seems like a good reply to the abandoned cart situation.
On shopping carts, did supermarkets never hear of the idea of maintenance???
Z - too funny on the maintenance. No, I don't think they do maintenance.
Last night - leaving the store - I'm in the right turn lane "arrow". Beside me left turn lane "arrow". I pulled up, truck beside me in left lane to far up for me to see, if I can go ahead - so I wait. Well, they decide they want to turn right, "right in front of me". Good thing I waited. Just curious, I noticed that the occupants were of "Hispanic" descent - "Arrows are the same in English & Spanish, right?":D
People texting when driving. And they 'fly the bird' when you honk cuz they almost hit you! I hate NW drivers.
I just finished spending an hour drafting an e-mail to a pain-in-the-ass co-worker to explain why I gave some space to someone with a higher priority project instead of to her project. It took an hour, because she constantly forwards my e-mails to the partners she works with (who like her and who are technically some of my bosses,) so I have to write the e-mail as if it is going to my bosses when I really should be simply saying "because your project is less important. Sorry."
My job is to allocate space and other resources, and she always tries (and fails) to go over my head if she doesn't get her way. But it's always a nuisance to go through the process of proving her wrong again.
Ok. I'm better now.
Aaarrghhh...my eye has been twitching on and off for days now! SOOOO annoying!
Oh, that's the worst Razz, it happened to me not that long ago. I was griping about it to my mom and she said her eye twitched for a month one time. I nearly killed myself on the spot... but anyway, I was taking those "Shot-o-B" mega vitamin energy pill things that you see at the checkout at health food stores. When I stopped taking them, the twitching stopped.
Consider that maybe you are getting too much or too little magnesium.
I am so amazed at the sheer volume of drugs Americans are exposed to, two full page adverts in most US mags and most of that is the disclaimer small print. In Europe we don't have that much exposure especially at supermarket checkouts. And to get back to supermarkets and why they are so irritating; it's not the shoppers coz they are all just like us, all walks in life, what annoys me is the shop workers not moving aside for you when they are shelving up and pushing in front of you to get to where thay are going. On the other hand I feel strangely invaded when they say hello and welcome to my face. Funny life.
We used to say that twitchy eye was a sign you were coming into money. Made us feel better. And twitchy lip (which I have now) is a sign of love on its way.
Yay!
Funnily enough, myself and the colleague who made this up said it with such conviction it is probably given knowledge in my home town now.
I can't talk about the way people behave in supermarkets. I have already ranted enough about them so much it will show up if I ever have an ECG.
I HATE that twitchy eye thing! For me, it's usually a sign of too much stress or too little sleep.
I go into supermarkets armed with decorem and love for humanity. I swear if any part of my face twitched, I would be asked to one side at the checkout. My eye (right) twitches when I'm stressed but not for 5 years now. Due to less stress. If you are a guy: be courteus to all women and silently laugh at the guys.
Actually - a little bit more sunshine in a dark thread. As usual I stepped back out of someone's way in the Co-op last night, and swung my basket in front of me to create more room. The man coming past thanked me!. He was at the checkout in front of me too and turned and smiled when I let a little boy just buying toothpaste in front of me.
There are people who value courtesy out there you know. Thanks for reminding me Icile - and welcome if you haven't already been welcomed!
Actually - a little bit more sunshine in a dark thread. As usual I stepped back out of someone's way in the Co-op last night, and swung my basket in front of me to create more room. The man coming past thanked me!. He was at the checkout in front of me too and turned and smiled when I let a little boy just buying toothpaste in front of me.
There are people who value courtesy out there you know. Thanks for reminding me Icile - and welcome if you haven't already been welcomed!
You are very welcome. I do that all the time, especially for old people. If you go into town thinking you are going to be pushed and shoved then just think about your own kindness: I smile at everyone. If you are in a super super hurry (happens) then do what I do: go slower especially when driving. Drag it out and go home safe and say to yourself or whoever "that went well." For me. Hate to think how the soreheads sleep.
It's like those commercials (aka adverts) for . . . whatever it is. Little acts of kindness multiply and come back to you.
I think I told you guys before that one year several years ago my New Year's resolution was to make sure I complimented good service to that person's supervisor, or the customer service desk, or whatever. I still try to remember to do that. It doesn't cost me a dime, and hopefully it makes someone's day, helps them on a raise evaluation, or whatever.
I had a severe eye twitch that lasted for several weeks earlier this year. My solution was to take time off from work and minimize my stress. It seemed to help.
How about when you move their irresponsibly parked cart outta the way - the looks you get.... LOL
Even better, if you just smash into it with your cart and say "OOPS":blush:
I'm very patient with people around me, while at the stores (on the outside of course), however on the inside I feel like my head is going to explode. Because of their arrogance, in believing that they are the only shopper.
I will say this, the day before Thanksgiving, I was at the store and was in need of something and didn’t see it – there was a stock person there filling the shelves and I asked him if they had any of it and he said no. We chatted for a few minutes about the shoppers, etc. Anyway, so I left and continued shopping. About 10 minutes later, I hear this “Ma’am”, “Ma’am” – I turn around and there’s the guy with two bags of the chopped broccoli. Needless to say, I was touched. I appreciated the effort he went to and told him so. Maybe because I was nice to him in the beginning rather than being a bitch he helped me out.
Jester that was me as a shelf stacker.
I dreamed of being mystery shopped (you got £100 - $200! - bonus for a score of 90% and above)
The customers still wound me up, but in general I treated them as we were taught in our induction. It's only since going back to the same chain that I realise I was in the minority!
I am always courteous to other shoppers (except in ma heid). I am hyper-aware of who is coming through, who is slowing down, who is stopping in front of me. That's why I hate te new trend of skates in kids' trainers. You are aware of everything around you and the pace it is moving - then there's an elbow high kid in the speace you nearly swung your basket into!
Jester that was me as a shelf stacker.
I dreamed of being mystery shopped (you got £100 - $200! - bonus for a score of 90% and above)
The customers still wound me up, but in general I treated them as we were taught in our induction. It's only since going back to the same chain that I realise I was in the minority!
I am always courteous to other shoppers (except in ma heid). I am hyper-aware of who is coming through, who is slowing down, who is stopping in front of me. That's why I hate te new trend of skates in kids' trainers. You are aware of everything around you and the pace it is moving - then there's an elbow high kid in the speace you nearly swung your basket into!
little freaks - they deserve to be run over.:D
I so want a pair of those shoe skates.
I so want a pair of those shoe skates.
figures:p
I so want a pair of those shoe skates.
I'll send you mine. Stock up on ass pads.
I think I told you guys before that one year several years ago my New Year's resolution was to make sure I complimented good service to that person's supervisor, or the customer service desk, or whatever. I still try to remember to do that. It doesn't cost me a dime, and hopefully it makes someone's day, helps them on a raise evaluation, or whatever.
I find that's really important at work, too. I deal with a lot of court clerks and other staff members. When I get really good service, I make it a point to thank them, either in writing (where it can go in their personnel file); or thanking their supervisor.
figures:p
I'll send you mine. Stock up on ass pads.
hey, jester...it's well known I"ll never grow up. :blush:
jinx, for the time being I got plenty o' natural padding there! Do you know where I can find them for adults (the shoes, not asses) I've seen them for older kids and I think I could find a size to fit but not sure.
I've noticed most sports stores selling adult Heelies this year. not that I've been looking or want a pair or anything :D
Just want to insert a note here - I don't think any kids/adults with Heelies are freaks - just the ones who are let loose in the store with no supervision whatsoever.
hey, jester...it's well known I"ll never grow up. :blush:
jinx, for the time being I got plenty o' natural padding there! Do you know where I can find them for adults (the shoes, not asses) I've seen them for older kids and I think I could find a size to fit but not sure.
What size are you Shawnee? In womens shoes?
And would you actually wear a pair or just stare at them?
lmao! Probably just stare at them.
mmmm..okay.
:)
Then I'm the only one that looks like an idiot...
HELMET!! !! !! forget the ass pads. You WILL hit your head backwards on the pavement... guaranteed!
Guaranteed? How do you know...I'm really good on roller skates, inlines, and ice skates. Well, I was really good when I was younger. ;)
the Fucking mecanic that was SUPPOSED to be here 2 days ago , and was supposed to be here at 7am to get started on our Big truck ,
Didn't show until 10 am ( I was at the shop at 9am ) ,
its 10 till 2pm now , and he STILL ain't finished !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK !!!!
Helllllllllllllllllpppppppppp! I'm trying to get out of here, my friend called and is in a panic, we are having a benefit dinner to send her granddaughter to a youth program in DC she was nominated for, just as I am trying to finsih up here everyone and their dog calls, and now I have an "aura" or whatever you call it right in the middle of my vision so eveyrthing is prismy and blurry. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
bye have a good weekend
Guaranteed? How do you know...I'm really good on roller skates, inlines, and ice skates. Well, I was really good when I was younger. ;)
I was a xc skier back in the day... trained in the off seasons with roller skis and blades. Got back into roller blading for a few years in my 20's. I put those heelies on and
immediately fell on my ass.
And I got them at Shenk and Tittle but have seen them at Finish Line, Footlocker etc...
What's irritating the shit out of me right now...
33 minute goddamn audio files. How hard is it to press stop and record again in ProTools? Do you really need to keep rolling while the voiceactor hacks up a lung for a minute and a half? We don't all have computers with 2 gigs of RAM that can just happily open and process whatever the hell we throw at them.
I now want to save up for a pair of Heeleys.
While this desire remains in my head it will irritate the shit outta me.
A trip to bigbox mart, that I put off yesterday. And If I don't get my donkey in go mode I'll not make it today.
Humm, maybe the procrastination thread would be a better place? bb
I got-er done. Wish I'd stayed at home and got drunk, been cheaper. Crowd wasn't too bad.
. . . and now I have an "aura" or whatever you call it right in the middle of my vision so eveyrthing is prismy and blurry. . .
wait. you have an aura? What color is it? Can other people see it? :D
[SIZE="1"]
'kay. I suppose you're talking about some kind of vision problem unworthy of ridicule. In which case I'll just crawl away now . . . [/SIZE]
The various sensations that indicate an imminent seizure to an epileptic are also called "auras." I've always hated the term because it sounds so mystical and illegitimite, rather than medical.
That really has nothing to do with vision problems, I just thought I'd share.
That sounds to me like a visual migraine.
Standing at the checkout - while "slow as christmas" is scanning my purchases and continually looking around instead of focusing on what she's doin'. "Hey, baby cakes chop, chop I don't have all day".
I'd tell you WTFITSOME, but I don't crosspost.
Drax you are becoming more unintelligible every day.
Drax you are becoming more unintelligible every day.
You'd better put the appropriate smilie at the end of that sentence 'fore I get
really pissed! :mad:
You'd better put the appropriate smilie at the end of that sentence 'fore I get really pissed! :mad:
You mean this one: :skull:
or this one: :cry:
????
You mean this one: :skull:
or this one: :cry:
????
BYE
BYE
Sorry Drax, I was just kidding you.
Sorry Drax, I was just kidding you.
No big. :) I'm just pissed at Medicare. I shouldn't take it out on you.
I'm just pissed at Medicare.
Why. Between that and the VA I stay jacked up.
Why. Between that and the VA I stay jacked up.
Have you ever tried to get them to pay for a custom manual wheelchair?
Buster fights them on a regular basis.
I was rear-ended on the way home tonight, which is pretty irritating. More so for the other guy, though--my bumper got a tiny scratch, but his hood got crumpled.
Have you ever tried to get them to pay for a custom manual wheelchair?
Don't have any use for one. YET
Don't have any use for one. YET
Well, if you ever need a
custom manual wheelchair, don't expect Medicreeps to pay for it.
Hopefully though, either my dad or my PT can change their microscopic little mind on this.
Here's a small excerpt from pop's last email to me:
From what I've found, Medicare, Social Security, and any other government entity will always reject the most logical initially, but will get in line once they are challenged.
What's irritating the shit out of me? Just about everything atm.
atm
that doesn't seem so bad. you don't have to be into
everything. I like many others am completely turned even by the concept of ATM. :headshake
Well, if you ever need a custom manual wheelchair, don't expect Medicreeps to pay for it.
Hopefully though, either my dad or my PT can change their microscopic little mind on this.
Here's a small excerpt from pop's last email to me:
Isn't it something? Insurance companies who do the same thing: always initially reject knowing some people will give up. I think all these entities should be held more accountable...the "little guy" gets shit all over.:headshake
Good luck to ya, Drax.
Sullen middle-schooler again doing homework on weekend, this time making up missing assignments to avoid an F in math. This irritates me because she is getting "A"s and "B"s in every other class
Binky, I'm sure the sullen is just her age and only time will fix that, but it she really happy in her maths class? It could be a problem with her teacher, the person she sits next to or even a problem with the subject itself. I used to proudly boast, "I don't do maths" in my teens, covering up my horror at a subject I could barely understand. It wasn't until I left school that I was tested for dyscalculia. I'm not ashamed of it, but I am a lot less flippant about my poor mathematical skills and work harder to cover it now!
Then again, could be just teen ennui.
(PS, sorry if middle school doesn't equal teen over there, I'm assuming a bit here!)
that doesn't seem so bad. you don't have to be into everything. I like many others am completely turned even by the concept of ATM. :headshake
Dude, that's disgusting. You never go ass to mouth!
Idiot customer service. Vendors who can fax you a statement right now, but won’t be able to get you an invoice for two weeks. I'm paying invoices for the month today. You have already charged me a finance charge for the invoice I don’t have and if I have to wait two more weeks it will be another finance charge. BS. Stupid
I've been here for 3 hours and already it's freakin' phone calls from Hell today.
People who don't pay their bills. I am a commissioned salesman - Its a very simple process - I sell & you buy. I send a bill for the amount you agreed to ay - effin PAY IT! I am lookin at a very meager christmas because a bunch of dirtbags aren't paying their bills. Lemme waste another day callin a bunch of losers only to hear "I'll get around to it" or whatever other lame excuse they come up with. UGGHH!! !! !!
- - - As you were - - -
Binky, I'm sure the sullen is just her age and only time will fix that, but it she really happy in her maths class? It could be a problem with her teacher, the person she sits next to or even a problem with the subject itself. I used to proudly boast, "I don't do maths" in my teens, covering up my horror at a subject I could barely understand. It wasn't until I left school that I was tested for dyscalculia. I'm not ashamed of it, but I am a lot less flippant about my poor mathematical skills and work harder to cover it now!
Then again, could be just teen ennui.
(PS, sorry if middle school doesn't equal teen over there, I'm assuming a bit here!)
Actually even though she is not quite 12, we are fully into the hormonally-driven screaming matches that I remember being on the other end of 30 years ago, and she can do her math fine, so I don't think there is any problem we can't get through as long as I breathe down her neck until she graduates high school-and for an update- she did 5 pages of the missing assignments this past weekend, and then left them sitting in the folder, on our air hockey table in the family rm :mad2:
What's the deal with cops? Trying to get thru intersections flashing their lights, but no siren. What the crap? Is it....
a. Krispy Kreme just turned on the "Hot & Fresh Now" sign?
b. Quitting time - gotta go clock out?
c. There's a hottie on the corner, gotta go "frisk" her?
d. all the above
People who don't pay their bills. I am a commissioned salesman - Its a very simple process - I sell & you buy. I send a bill for the amount you agreed to ay - effin PAY IT! I am lookin at a very meager christmas because a bunch of dirtbags aren't paying their bills. Lemme waste another day callin a bunch of losers only to hear "I'll get around to it" or whatever other lame excuse they come up with. UGGHH!! !! !!
- - - As you were - - -
That happened to me the other day.....the guy didn't receive the check and started calling everyone unethical etc. etc.. bullshit bullshit...he got the check the next day and fealt stupid.
When the gov wants a note from a doctor, you go to the doctor to get it and find out you need a form from the gov for the doctor to fill out, then the gov people clocked out early for the day on a friday, but they want you to get in their paperwork ASAP or you'll miss the chance, since it takes 2 weeks for them to review and file the paperwork. XD
Hey, what can I say. Everything in government is fucked up, and slow as owl shit.
The Fucking Dripping cealing in the laundry room !!!!
Now I have to get up on the roof and see if I can Patch it
34 degrees and raining FUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
Zippy is going to freeze.....
:(
Ahh thats what the Coffie , Jameson , and Baileys is for , to warm ya Back up !!!
Had free samples of Baileys and Christmas Pudding in the supermarket today. Then watched the loaded-trolley-woman in front of me check me out, note my two items of a bag of cat litter and 6 pints of milk, check me out again, start loading her trolley onto the conveyor and look at my two goods again...
Not really complaining about her, I was avoiding the scrum of the "10 Items or Less Self Checkout" but it would have been polite for her to usher me forwards. She was obviously considering it, but hey - I had my book and after all used the time better than her imo.
1) festive tree fell over smashing shitloads of baubles and I was too upset about it to take a photo for the "Fail" thread even though I thought about it. Now I really wish i had. But I don't want it to fall again.
2) One of the little shits -I mean girls- invited to hebe's party decided she felt ill after an hour and wanted to go home. fine, I'd rather she puked at home. On leaving, I reminded her to take the velveted picture box she'd "made" as our first craft project and she said "oh, I don't want it" and her father did nothing to correct her behaviour and seemed cross with me that she had called him. I hope she barfs in his car.
Oh no, I'm so sorry about your tree, monster! :(
Pop taught me to tie the top of the tree to a solid curtain rod, from two angles, before anything goes on it. That served me well when pets arrived, especially cats.
Oh no, I'm so sorry about your tree, monster! :(
Thanks, it's OK -I'm more cross i didn't take a FAIL pic -I could have been fanous on the interwebs.
I can't spoil the look of the tree by tying it. I usually wedge the front a little, but this one was so stable...... (it's now wedged)
M - sorry about the tree - "the girl" - what a little snot - very rude.
I drive fast - always have - almost always late, therefore it's now a habit. So, if you're going to pull out in front of me, atleast go the speed limit, which on that particular road was only 45 to begin with. grrr
Oooh, I am seething.
The stepdaughter (the same one I was generously considering giving birthday presents to earlier today) has for the third time in a row put off a large homework project entirely until the weekend with us. It's perfectly understandable that she will have homework on the weekends sometimes, but in every case so far she has had to work literally all weekend to manage to get it done, and has needed significant prodding and encouragement to keep on task. Her mother's explanation for why this has happened yet again is that Stepdaughter told her she couldn't make her do her homework, and she had to reluctantly agree.
Oh HELL no. I don't know what sort of planet her mother lives on, but it's called discipline, and we have a plentiful harvest of it on our planet. In only the most literal sense is one unable to take her hand to the paper and force her to do the work. I have a wide variety of motivating tools at my disposal, and she will be presented with several this weekend.
I can't even decide if I'm more pissed at the mother for being a shitty mother, or at the stepdaughter for trying to pull this crap when she knows damn well her mother is going to tell us about it. She would never dream of mouthing off to either of us like that.
I have a small but unshakeable suspicion that she's deliberately pulling these stunts in order to force her mother to let her come live with us. I honestly don't know how I'd feel about that. There are a lot of issues tied in with it, both for and against.
Well? If she isn't a fabulous parent, I don't see why you wouldn't? Right? Not that I know dick about parenting or what in the hell I'm talking about. Chalk it up to an uneducated opinion from the peanut gallery.
Aaah, sorry you're annoyed Clod!
:)
Well? If she isn't a fabulous parent, I don't see why you wouldn't? Right? Not that I know dick about parenting or what in the hell I'm talking about.
Wouldn't want her to come live here? Well, it's a complicated idea. First (assuming this is actually something she is angling for, which I'm definitely not sure it is,) I don't think she's really thought through what daily life here would be like. She may not respect her mother, but I don't think she's ready for a constant application of the rules at our house either. She'd be leaving her friends in Houston, and starting over at a new school. Aside from the impact on her, there's the impact on her brother--he takes a lot more after his mother, and most certainly would
not want to come live here. We wouldn't want to give up weekends with him, just like we wouldn't want the stepdaughter to stop seeing her mother altogether. So then would weekends become a direct trade, one kid for the other, and back again? They'd never see each other, except in passing and maybe holidays. And while they both might appreciate getting to be apart from the other, I don't know that being separated would be a good thing for them long-term.
Plus, any major change in the custody arrangement would necessitate going back to court, which is not cheap even when both parties have already hammered out the details and aren't battling over anything.
Clod - be pissed with the mother.
Most of the manipulation used by a ten year old will be a kneejerk reaction - only repeated when it works. She's still trying to find her way in a tough world and the only protection she has is in two very different family situations.
It wouldn't surprise me if underneath what she is trying to achieve is to get her mother to match the discipline she finds in your household, which is bound to feel safer in comparison because it offers a steady framework of rules, rewards and consequences.
Sorry that you have to go through it again and again. Just keep doing what you're doing, it's obviously a good job even if she doesn't sometimes seem to give a lot back.
So what happens if the kid goes home at the end of the weekend with the homework undone?
Honestly, there's a decent chance her mother will mostly do it for her. :mad: But whether or not she makes the school deadline, she's under instructions from us that she will finish it by tonight or there will be (as yet unspecified) consequences. It's also likely that she'll end up missing something this afternoon because she'll be in her room working instead.
So if she doesn't do it, she won't be able to go to the ball.
Unless.... her fairy godmother, with the mice and birds, whip up a gown with glass slippers, and turn a pumpkin into a coach.... [SIZE="1"]nevermind.[/SIZE] ;)
Maybe she should be inspired to do her work in both cases. Then no matter where she is she will do it, and it will be useful when she lives alone, or goes off to college. I guess so far that isn't working, but maybe everyone could be patient until the kid learns self-responsibility that sometimes only comes with age or not at all.
Maybe a tutor would be useful. I think there is an added benefit when a child see's that school-work is important enough for outside help.
I think the kid has two different sets of rules from house to house and she needs to stabilize.
Like I said, I don't know what I'm talking about, I was a horrible almost step-mom at one point. I was the only person that had boundaries and guidelines which made me look like the monster. Any rule I had was completely unenforcable and it's stupid to have absolutely no power in your own household. So I had to leave, there was no fixing it, and was going to be damned if I was going to be an impotent observer of insane doings in my own house. I hate the wars with the bio. mom so I will never be a step-parent. I went through the worst nightmare with that and never dated a man with kids again, because of it. (enough about me blah blah blah) I had to go to therapy because of that, anyway!!
:)
I hope that you can keep the eye on the prize. I bet you are being manipulated by the bio. mom in more ways than one, and that might skew the point of things. If the kid saves doing stuff until she gets to your house so be it. You can train the kid, not the mom.
I know how frustrating the situation can be, as I said, I went through the worst. I hope these situations turn out well for you, because there will be many obstacles, this situation is just a symptom of all the other fun to come. Just try to be fair and not punish the kid for the actions of the mother. I wish I could tell you not to let this crap get to you, but well, it should. It's just how you deal with it that matters.
Ok stfu Cicero...!!! lol! :)
My husband invited one of his coworkers children (nice little girl, same age as my youngest), to spend the night tonight, without asking me. Why this is irritating is because I just spent last night at my daughter's girl scout leader's house helping out at a slumber party for nine 8 year old brownies, and could really use a quiet night tonight. ARRRRRRGGGGG
So if she doesn't do it, she won't be able to go to the ball.
Unless.... her fairy godmother, with the mice and birds, whip up a gown with glass slippers, and turn a pumpkin into a coach.... [SIZE=1]nevermind.[/SIZE] ;)
Bruce, in that story wasn't there an evil ste... oh, I see. Never mind.
What's the deal with cops? Trying to get thru intersections flashing their lights, but no siren. What the crap? Is it....
a. Krispy Kreme just turned on the "Hot & Fresh Now" sign?
b. Quitting time - gotta go clock out?
c. There's a hottie on the corner, gotta go "frisk" her?
d. all the above
Picked this up from elsewhere. I think I also heard this in drivers ed lo these many years ago.
The law allows for officers to break traffic laws when needed in the 'actual' performance of their duties..........
Some situations.
One call is bank alarms...Another is a drug transaction in progress.........The lights and siren will let them know we are coming and allow them a chance to get away. Some criminals will use a lookout stationed several blocks away. If they see a police car coming with its lights flashing or siren blaring, they will give a call into the other criminals either 2-way radio or cell phone and give them a chance to get away.
One more call is A medical call involving the elderly or children. We sometimes respond without lights and siren so that we do not scare or upset the victims. Especially if they are very young or very old.
My husband invited one of his coworkers children (nice little girl, same age as my youngest), to spend the night tonight, without asking me. Why this is irritating is because I just spent last night at my daughter's girl scout leader's house helping out at a slumber party for nine 8 year old brownies, and could really use a quiet night tonight. ARRRRRRGGGGG
If your husband made the invitation, why isn't your husband entertaining the kids?