Arnold is just a moron too...

rkzenrage • Oct 16, 2007 8:36 pm
http://greenoptions.com/2007/10/16/california_governor_nixes_industrial_hemp_while_north_dakota_moves_on

Well, California’s "Fearless Fosdick" Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger has again stifled any hope of bringing the industrial hemp industry to California and the United States. Unlike his more forward-thinking and courageous counterpart in North Dakota, Schwarzenegger bowed to the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and useless fears that industrial hemp will get you high, and vetoed Assembly Bill 684 which would have allowed a four-county, five-year pilot program of industrial hemp production in California.


It has nothing to do with "drug" use. Industrial hemp cannot be used as a drug... the two issues cannot, in ANY way, be compared.
The man is just a moron.

An acre of hemp makes 3 times the paper with a 5th the chemicals as wood.. you can get two crops a year. It takes 5 years to grow one acre of paper trees.
It would cut the land needed by so much that we could increase our virgin forests in ten years by more than one can almost imagine.
That is just wood... the same is similar for pollution for denim, cotton cloth, rope and many other products like oil and ethanol... oops perhaps now we know.
Aliantha • Oct 16, 2007 8:41 pm
well if you want hemp clothes, you can buy them here. :)
TheMercenary • Oct 16, 2007 9:04 pm
Arnold is actually doing quite well in Calif. You can't judge the man based on his policy over Hemp production. That is just stupid.
rkzenrage • Oct 16, 2007 9:28 pm
He connected industrial hemp to drugs... he is a moron.
TheMercenary • Oct 16, 2007 9:56 pm
rkzenrage;395970 wrote:
He connected industrial hemp to drugs... he is a moron.

I think we, you, he is aware of the differences. The biggest problem has been that the plant looks EXACTLY the same as the illegal one. They are essentially the same plant and could easily be crossed, but I would bet the THC levels would be pretty low in the cross breed. Who knows, if they got the votes to get it to his desk maybe they have the votes for an override.
rkzenrage • Oct 16, 2007 10:35 pm
Paper, chemical and textile industry are who have ALWAYS fought, and spent millions to keep hemp, all forms, illegal since 1934, when Popular Mechanics announced a new machine that would make hemp the new #1 crop in the US, making the new wood pulp process outdated.
Dow and Kimberly Clark got to work the next day.
Jazz Niggers are going to smoke pot and rape your daughters!!!!!!
That is exactly how it happened.

Small farmers would make much more on growing textile hemp, and could, unlike paper trees. Think about it.

When it comes to pot for medical purposes, nothing helps muscle or nerve spams, nausea or loss of appetite as much as natural THC.
Marinol makes more people, about 60%, more ill instead of helping them.
Those who want it kept illegal and a class 1 drug want those like me to continue to suffer, not eat, and die earlier than we would with it.
A fact.

It is in NO WAY physically addictive, nor is is a gateway drug any more than tobacco is one for those who use meth or heroine (never seen or met a user who did not smoke first... go I guess tobacco is a gate-way drug to meth and heroine).

But, none of this matters... what matters is what HE knows, and if he knows industrial hemp is not able to get people high... and it is NOT... and still made the connection to pander to morons, then he is still a moron.
TheMercenary • Oct 16, 2007 10:45 pm
rkzenrage;396028 wrote:
Paper, chemical and textile industry are who have ALWAYS fought, and spent millions to keep hemp, all forms, illegal since 1934, when Popular Mechanics announced a new machine that would make hemp the new #1 crop in the US, making the new wood pulp process outdated.
Dow and Kimberly Clark got to work the next day.
Jazz Niggers are going to smoke pot and rape your daughters!!!!!!
That is exactly how it happened.

Small farmers would make much more on growing textile hemp, and could, unlike paper trees. Think about it.

When it comes to pot for medical purposes, nothing helps muscle or nerve spams, nausea or loss of appetite as much as natural THC.
Marinol makes more people, about 60%, more ill instead of helping them.
Those who want it kept illegal and a class 1 drug want those like me to continue to suffer, not eat, and die earlier than we would with it.
A fact.

It is in NO WAY physically addictive, nor is is a gateway drug any more than tobacco is one for those who use meth or heroine (never seen or met a user who did not smoke first... go I guess tobacco is a gate-way drug to meth and heroine).

But, none of this matters... what matters is what HE knows, and if he knows industrial hemp is not able to get people high... and it is NOT... and still made the connection to pander to morons, then he is still a moron.


I don't disagree with you on your points, other than he is a moron. He is a politician, lower your expectations.
rkzenrage • Oct 16, 2007 10:52 pm
I see your point... so sad... they should be the better of us, not the idiots.
The idea of a Republic.
TheMercenary • Oct 16, 2007 10:59 pm
rkzenrage;396051 wrote:
I see your point... so sad... they should be the better of us, not the idiots.
The idea of a Republic.


The way our process works you would have to be an idiot to run for any major office. I have found after living in the South (for 15 years now) that even at a local level it is all about power and position, rarely is anyone interested in serving anyone but themselves or their personal interests.
Aliantha • Oct 16, 2007 11:02 pm
There's something beautiful happening between you two today. It's almost like you're bonding or something else incredibly manly. :alien:
TheMercenary • Oct 16, 2007 11:04 pm
Aliantha;396064 wrote:
There's something beautiful happening between you two today. It's almost like you're bonding or something else incredibly manly. :alien:


Guns tend to bring men together. :sniper:
Aliantha • Oct 16, 2007 11:07 pm
Yeah, within firing range so they can shoot each other.
TheMercenary • Oct 16, 2007 11:13 pm
Aliantha;396073 wrote:
Yeah, within firing range so they can shoot each other.


That is not bonding. I thought you were talking about bonding. The key to meeting someone you want to confront "within firing range" would be to be a good shot and have a more accurate longer firing range than your target. :D
Aliantha • Oct 16, 2007 11:14 pm
:alien:
rkzenrage • Oct 16, 2007 11:18 pm
you would have to be an idiot to run for any major office

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you there.
The last few ranges I have been on have had a lot of women on them.
rkzenrage • Oct 17, 2007 1:56 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne9UF-pFhJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIRXlE1phAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdymZ__oQ_s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaHoIhjUsxM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqmwWhq5ElQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rgDyEO_8cI

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDLiHJFPWsM
[Economist articles in description - Ron Paul mentioned in one]
A video consisting of an US Government history lesson about hemp which leads into an argument for hemp and then Ron Paul's Hemp legislation. Hemp has the potential to be a huge boon for American farmers and the US economy all while helping the environment and improving US security by lowering our reliance on foreign oil...and Ron Paul is the only candidate in favor of legislation to allow American Farmers to grow it.

Music
Artist - The Whitest Boy Alive
Song - Golden Cage

(Economist - 6/23/07)
Nowadays farmers are banned from growing hemp without a permit from the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), which usually refuses to grant one. So many hemp products in America—food, lotions, clothing, paper and so forth—are imported from China or Canada, where farmers have been allowed to grow hemp commercially since 1998.

Hemp grows so easily that few pesticides or even fertilisers are needed. "Feral" hemp is said to grow by the roadside in Iowa and Nebraska. Barbara Filippone, owner of a hemp fabric company called Enviro Textiles, says demand has rocketed—sales are growing by 35% a year. Nutiva, a California-based hemp company that sells hemp bars, shakes and oils, saw sales rise from under $1m three years ago to $4.5m last year. "Hemp is the next soy," predicts John Roulac, Nutiva's founder.

American farmers would love to grow hemp. North Dakota, which in 1999 became the first state to allow industrial hemp farming, has taken the lead. This week two farmers from the state filed a lawsuit to force the DEA to issue permits to grow hemp; the farmers had applied for permits back in February, thus far to no avail. Ron Paul, a Texas congressman and presidential candidate, could win over farmers in Iowa because of his pro-hemp lobbying. In February he introduced a bill in Congress that would allow Americans to grow it.

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(Economist - 7/14/07)
Nancy Pelosi, the new speaker of the House of Representatives, set up a special committee to come up with a solution to the nation's energy woes by July 4th, so that America's new political masters could declare "energy independence" on the same day their forebears renounced the colonial yoke.
But July 4th has come and gone, Ms Pelosi as yet has no energy bill and America is still just as firmly yoked to expensive, dirty, imported energy as ever. The price of oil is near the nominal record reached last year, and petrol costs well over $3 a gallon. Not only have the Democrats shelved any plan for limiting greenhouse emissions; they have also embraced two of Mr Bush's more pernicious ideas: using greenery as an excuse to dole out subsidies to ungreen lobbies; and claiming a bogus link between climate change and energy independence.

Sadly, however, the Senate's energy bill weds sensible steps on fuel economy and energy efficiency with all manner of less helpful, populist measures, including new anti-price-gouging rules aimed at big oil companies and hand-outs for farmers in the form of new incentives for expensive (and ungreen) corn-based ethanol.

The Democrats hold at least two suspect truths to be self-evident. Most obviously, they think that politicians should micro-manage energy policy, encouraging some technologies and neglecting others. That ignores most of the lessons of economics, but it is decidedly well grounded compared with the Democrats' other verity: that slowing global warming and reducing dependence on imported fuels go hand-in-hand. What sense does it make to give preference to American ethanol over the cheaper and more climate-friendly Brazilian sort? (Indeed, if you embrace the goal of "energy security", bigger imports of Brazilian ethanol might help, by reducing America's demand for oil from more hostile lands.)

The Democrats' leaders might calculate that it is worth dressing up an energy bill with patriotic talk and weighing it down with subsidies in order to buy political support for more contentious measures.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDNDdv7hU-U

http://www.norml.org/ is another great place to learn...
robsterman1 • Oct 18, 2007 9:54 am
Ah-nuld's just so useless as a politician, but he's governator just for the celebrity value. Nothing is further from the f#cking truth!
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2007 9:43 pm
robsterman1;396570 wrote:
Nothing is further from the f#cking truth!
Doesn't that prove he's a real politician?
TheMercenary • Oct 25, 2007 10:59 pm
Nancy Pelosi is a liberal cocksucker. :D
Urbane Guerrilla • Oct 25, 2007 11:35 pm
Right now, those of us on the fire grounds are pretty happy with the diligence Arnold & Co. have shown. "I don't vant to knock anybody," he said, but they took the lessons learned from both Katrina and previous major fires locally two and three years ago to make the response a better example of how to.