Analog broadcast TV signals will stop in February 1999

dar512 • Sep 18, 2007 12:45 pm
Analog over-the-air TV broadcast will be dropped in a year and a half.

As I understand it, those with cable won't have to worry about it since their cable boxes already convert digital signals to analog. The rest of us will have to buy a converter, buy an HDTV, or do without.

We could probably do without in our house since we watch so little TV. However, we do like to watch the Olympics when they come up. And the in-laws like to watch the news when they visit.

And there's always the possibility that I'll get the 'wants' for a wide-screen TV. :)

Anyone else cableless?
glatt • Sep 18, 2007 1:02 pm
Yeah. Over here.

As I understand it, my roof top antenna will probably still work, but the number of channels I currently get (including a bunch of fuzzy ones) will drop significantly. With digital, you either get the channel, or you don't. If the signal is weak, you don't get it. I'll probably drop from 12 or so channels down to 5. We'll see.

I'm also not too thrilled with the selection and price of HDTVs now. You should be able to get a name brand mid sized TV for around $400 in my mind. The prices aren't there yet.
skysidhe • Sep 18, 2007 1:05 pm
What year will it be dropped?
Shawnee123 • Sep 18, 2007 1:05 pm
I needed a new TV...got one for $100, not really big, not really small, but had the warning that I will need a "special box" (which I like to think I already have) when they convert. I figured I'll either get the box but by then I should have a better TV, maybe cable, anyway.
Spexxvet • Sep 18, 2007 1:15 pm
Dude.......... Did you say 1999? 1999?
Spexxvet • Sep 18, 2007 1:15 pm
Spexxvet;386380 wrote:
Dude.......... Did you say 1999? 1999?


Like, 8 years ago?
Shawnee123 • Sep 18, 2007 1:16 pm
lol...I didn't catch that!
skysidhe • Sep 18, 2007 1:17 pm
I have three tvs. One is a small flat screen I don't like because it's small. I have a huge cheap $300. dollar one that just went out on me after 2 years. It's too heavy to move without a boyfriend. j/k

My favorite tv is a small regular tv with a great picture.

My next tv will be a HD flat screen. Totally flat ..the ones you can hang on the wall if'in you want.
skysidhe • Sep 18, 2007 1:18 pm
Shawnee123;386382 wrote:
lol...I didn't catch that!



I did but I didn't want to come off as a bitch.
Spexxvet • Sep 18, 2007 4:04 pm
skysidhe;386386 wrote:
I did but I didn't want to come off as a bitch.


Oh, so I'm a bitch because I caught that and pointed it out!

Haaaarumph!
Flint • Sep 18, 2007 4:38 pm
Is it too late to get a big, cheap TV that's the wrong kind? I don't watch TV, all I need is S-Video for my DVD changer.
Shawnee123 • Sep 18, 2007 4:40 pm
Sure you can...you can get the one that will be "obsolete" at a much cheaper rate than a comparable sized "newer" one. If that's all your using it for, you should look around.
glatt • Sep 18, 2007 4:42 pm
Flint;386552 wrote:
Is it too late to get a big, cheap TV that's the wrong kind? I don't watch TV, all I need is S-Video for my DVD changer.


Craigslist has lots of them. Used, perfectly good and cheap.

In fact, I bet most towns will change their policies in the next year or so if they haven't already to make you pay to throw them away.
Flint • Sep 18, 2007 4:42 pm
All I need to do now is measure the size of the hole in my entertainment center...

Also, my dad had a great idea about building a homemade jumbo-tron ha ha ha srsly
bluecuracao • Sep 18, 2007 4:45 pm
When I saw the title, I thought someone had revived an old thread...to point out that analog signals didn't stop in 1999. :rolleyes:

Flint man, it's too bad you live all the way over in TX--we have a gigantic TV that we're trying to get rid of. It would probably cost more to ship than what we're selling for, though.
skysidhe • Sep 18, 2007 4:46 pm
Spexxvet;386521 wrote:
Oh, so I'm a bitch because I caught that and pointed it out!

Haaaarumph!


lol
dar512 • Sep 18, 2007 5:33 pm
Ooops. Make that February 2009.

Losing track of time in my old age. :neutral:
Shawnee123 • Sep 19, 2007 8:52 am
Whew...that's a relief. 'Cause I already partied like it was 1999. ;)
Drax • Sep 19, 2007 4:10 pm
The correct year is of course 2009. And what is the FCCs most intelligible reasoning behind spending mega money for this glorious switchover? A prettier picture. Oh no, our beloved government can't be bothered with spending to improve education and healthcare. No, Americans only need a prettier picture on their TV sets to be happy. And let's just forget about the retired senior citizens and others who probably won't be able to afford set-top converters, let alone cable or satellite TV, or expensive iLo HDTVs from Wal-mart that'll probably flake out within a year, which I bought after my good ol' Magnovox gave up after 20 years of reliable service.
glatt • Sep 19, 2007 4:19 pm
Drax;386856 wrote:
And let's just forget about the retired senior citizens and others who probably won't be able to afford set-top converters, let alone cable or satellite TV...


But haven't the feds said they would give out $100 vouchers to everyone who needs one so they can get a box?
Drax • Sep 19, 2007 4:25 pm
glatt;386859 wrote:
But haven't the feds said they would give out $100 vouchers to everyone who needs one so they can get a box?


Maybe. I haven't heard/read that.
Happy Monkey • Sep 19, 2007 4:28 pm
Drax;386856 wrote:
The correct year is of course 2009. And what is the FCCs most intelligible reasoning behind spending mega money for this glorious switchover? A prettier picture.
Actually, the prettier picture also uses less spectrum, which will eventually open up a lot more spectrum for other uses.
Cicero • Sep 19, 2007 4:31 pm
This doesn't make sense....I thought mind control experiments were done in analog not digital.

I guess that's going to end now that it's 1779 again.
;)
glatt • Sep 19, 2007 4:31 pm
http://www.ncta.com/ContentView.aspx?contentId=4355
Or, there's a do-it-yourself method available: You can buy a special add-on "converter" that will let your old TV sets pick up and display over-the-air digital signals. These converters will be available from retailers early in 2008, and the federal government wants to help you pay for them. You can apply for up to two vouchers that offer a significant discount off the price of the converters. For more information on the converter coupon program, go to www.DTV.gov, or call, toll-free, 1-888-DTV-2009.
glatt • Sep 19, 2007 4:34 pm
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/index.html
Between Jan. 1, 2008, and March 31, 2009, all U.S. households will be eligible to request up to two coupons, worth $40 each, to be used toward the purchase of up to two, digital-to-analog converter boxes, while the initial $990 million allocated for the program is available. If NTIA requests the additional $510 million already authorized by Congress, then coupon requests during this "contingent period" will be limited exclusively to over-the-air households. Details on how to apply for the Coupon Program and our 1-800 number will be established later in 2007.


I can't find an actual application form for these coupons/vouchers, so it looks like even though there is almost a Billion dollars in funding for it, the program isn't off the ground yet.
Drax • Sep 19, 2007 4:55 pm
Happy Monkey;386868 wrote:
Actually, the prettier picture also uses less spectrum, which will eventually open up a lot more spectrum for other uses.


How will that improve education and healthcare?
Flint • Sep 19, 2007 4:58 pm
By opening up a lot more spectrum, because it uses less.
Drax • Sep 19, 2007 5:01 pm
Smartass.
Flint • Sep 19, 2007 5:04 pm
I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass.
Happy Monkey • Sep 19, 2007 5:06 pm
Drax;386885 wrote:
How will that improve education and healthcare?
I didn't say it would; just that it does more than improve the picture.

But now that you ask, I can certainly see emergency and medical services making use of future devices that will use the newly opened spectrum.
Drax • Sep 19, 2007 5:16 pm
Happy Monkey;386893 wrote:
But now that you ask, I can certainly see emergency and medical services making use of future devices that will use the newly opened spectrum.


Yeah, that does make sense.
Cicero • Sep 19, 2007 5:20 pm
I just want to know how it's going to work with mind control projects.
New horizons there too?
theotherguy • Sep 19, 2007 5:23 pm
Don't start asking questions about our mind control projects or we will have to terminate you. Pot stirrer.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 19, 2007 6:40 pm
Happy Monkey;386893 wrote:
I didn't say it would; just that it does more than improve the picture.

But now that you ask, I can certainly see emergency and medical services making use of future devices that will use the newly opened spectrum.
Is that definite, or just a possibility... if the big guns can't figure out a way to make a buck off that additional bandwidth?
Happy Monkey • Sep 20, 2007 11:36 am
It's just a possibility, AFAIK, but if the way they make a buck is improved communication devices, emergency and medical services would probably be able to use them.
Flint • Sep 20, 2007 11:41 am
The available frequencies are a finite resource, so no matter how you slice it, freeing up a chunk of bandwidth is a positive.

At worse, the newly liberated bandwidth could be used for something crappy, but it would just be replacing the other crap.
skysidhe • Sep 20, 2007 11:44 am
glatt;386859 wrote:
But haven't the feds said they would give out $100 vouchers to everyone who needs one so they can get a box?


I had not heard about that! I won't be counting on it.

I know that your cable company should be giving you the converter box for free because they don't want to lose your business? That's what I heard.

So even satellite users will need a converter or just a compatible tv?
Undertoad • Sep 20, 2007 1:15 pm
No, cable and satellite people are fine. The only ones that have to buy new equipment are the over-the-air viewers.
Elspode • Sep 20, 2007 9:12 pm
Those seeking TV's at amazing prices should look no further than craigslist. SD big screens, even amazing quality ones, are going for peanuts there. With the savings, you buy a converter box. I have in particular seen 32 and 36 inch Sony Wegas for $350 on more than one occasion, and that is one damn fine CRT based SD TV.

I will say this, though. HiDef is *awesome*. If you are into sports, its beyond awesome. We picked up a 42" plasma at WalMart's Black Friday sale last year, at a sale price which I have yet to see matched for its size. It is a NoNameo box, but since the displays themselves are only manufactured by like two companies, it matters relatively little in terms of pic quality. And keep in mind that this is only a 720p display - 42" plasmas can't do 1080 due to the inherent pixel structure, but if your viewing distance is within certain parameters, your eye can't really tell the difference between the two anyway.

It really is a stupendous step up in terms of resolution, picture stability and viewing pleasure.
Weird Harold • Sep 20, 2007 10:26 pm
Undertoad;387237 wrote:
No, cable and satellite people are fine. The only ones that have to buy new equipment are the over-the-air viewers.


So does that mean that after the big change, my satellite company will still be charging more for High Definition?
Elspode • Sep 20, 2007 10:33 pm
No, because everything will be hidef. The cheaper tier will cease to exist, and they'll have to raise the price of the whole service to make up for lost revenue.