Butthole barrages board with bullshit, gets busted by bruce

lumberjim • Aug 21, 2007 1:42 am

You started just over 300 threads, in most of which you are busy telling other people what they must do, how they must run their lives, what they must believe, how they must raise their kids, how they must worship, to make you happy.
Spreading your hate far and wide like a petulant child. Boo hoo, people won't play my way... everybody's picking on me... I'm being oppressed.
Must be that 170 IQ that makes you think you have the only way to live properly and it's your duty to make everyone conform.
NoBoxes • Aug 21, 2007 6:07 am
This seems out of place here. It would have looked better under "Home Base" in DucksNuts' "I'd like to nominate..." thread if you wanted to name xoxoxoBruce as Pooper Scooper of the month. :2cents:
DanaC • Aug 21, 2007 7:07 am
Yeap. I'd agree with NB.
smurfalicious • Aug 21, 2007 8:21 am
regardless...
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LabRat • Aug 21, 2007 8:49 am
Where was that quote from, LJ?

Damn this job, I love it, but it's seriously cutting into my Cellar time. It's gotten so big I can't keep up with everything. Luckily, my husband ordered his laptop (liked mine :) copycat) so that means we will be getting the internets at home. Mwa ha ha !!
Cloud • Aug 21, 2007 9:44 am
Boys Will B Boys
Clodfobble • Aug 21, 2007 11:32 am
This thread, LR.
elSicomoro • Aug 21, 2007 11:35 am
LabRat;376898 wrote:
Damn this job, I love it, but it's seriously cutting into my Cellar time. It's gotten so big I can't keep up with everything.


Well, sweetheart, it looks like you have a conundrum...do you love your stupid job that pays the bills and lets you and your hubby live? Or do you love us? Husbands and jobs come and go...the Cellar is forever.
elSicomoro • Aug 21, 2007 11:42 am
I wrote this about tw earlier in the month when we had to have our intervention with him:

tw has been the way he is as long as I've been here--6 years and change.

I appreciate many of his points, and sometimes I even get a chuckle out of him. But he (along with a few other people on here) try too hard, IMO, to pull emotion out of their posts. And that is impossible...we are emotional people as a whole. So when these folks try to be unemotional, they come across as callous and asinine...and it understandably throws people for a loop.

Of course, it doesn't help that none of us have voices to rely on.

In the end, post how you want...just be aware of how you might come across. The Cellar is too decent of a place to be disrespectful to each other.


Rob was one of the "few other people" I had in mind. So, let me now tailor this quote to fit him:

Rob has been the way he is as long as he's been here--a year and change.

I appreciate some of his points, and sometimes I even get a chuckle out of him. But he (along with a few other people on here) try too hard, IMO, to pull emotion out of their posts. And that is impossible...we are emotional people as a whole. So when these folks try to be unemotional, they come across as callous and asinine...and it understandably throws people for a loop.

Of course, it doesn't help that none of us have voices to rely on.

In the end, post how you want...just be aware of how you might come across. The Cellar is too decent of a place to be disrespectful to each other.
Shawnee123 • Aug 21, 2007 11:51 am
We are the world
We are the children
:grouphug: [/sarcasm] :)
HungLikeJesus • Aug 21, 2007 1:00 pm
rkzenrage;348556 wrote:
Busybody.
You have no idea why people own the vehicles they do... you just want to tell people what to do.
You live in the wrong kind of nation... must suck to hate freedom and live where it is protected.


Irony?
bluecuracao • Aug 21, 2007 9:22 pm
Hypocrisy.
rkzenrage • Aug 22, 2007 1:18 am
I don't want to tell people what to do.
Where have I done this?
If two parents have a kid I think they are equal. Some don't feel that is true, I debated the issue. Some can't keep their emotions out of a normal conversation, that is sad for them, but not my fault.
I also feel that all organizations that are not true service or charitable organizations should pay taxes equally with everyone else, again equality.
The opposite of hypocrisy.
Some people want to feel that they and their belief systems should be treated specially... again, not my problem, nor hypocritical.
bluecuracao • Aug 22, 2007 6:40 am
rk, you state you beliefs in the manner of 'should,' as in, 'this situation should be this way, according to me,' and then after you get appropriately strong responses, follow it up with, 'the other/opposite idea that you're expressing is stupid/meaningless/beneath me.' That's when you end up upsetting and annoying people.

Your very intense belief systems are special to you, yet you denigrate others' beliefs. You do this continuously, and even insult people directly.

If you truly desire a non-inflammatory dialogue in response to your threads, you might want to try setting up your opening questions in a more diplomatic and informed way.
rkzenrage • Aug 22, 2007 9:27 am
according to me

Is confusing?
Spexxvet • Aug 22, 2007 9:34 am
bluecuracao;377236 wrote:
rk, you state you beliefs in the manner of 'should,' as in, 'this situation should be this way, according to me,' and then after you get appropriately strong responses, follow it up with, 'the other/opposite idea that you're expressing is stupid/meaningless/beneath me.' That's when you end up upsetting and annoying people.
...


He's not the only one to do this, though.
elSicomoro • Aug 22, 2007 9:47 am
rkzenrage;377273 wrote:
Is confusing?


No, but then you put down other people's beliefs, which makes you look like a jackoff. Carefully reread blue's first paragraph.
elSicomoro • Aug 22, 2007 9:51 am
Spexxvet;377276 wrote:
He's not the only one to do this, though.


Correct. We called tw out on this recently. Rob also posts a fuckton, and his style of posting detracts from the Cellar, IMO...and I suspect that I will get an amen from many other posters on this.
lumberjim • Aug 22, 2007 10:35 am
i don't really think he detracts from the board. maybe from some people's enjoyment of it, i guess....but he's a bit like having a current events forum spread all over the place. I said once that he should have his own forum where he could rant away but he got all offended. I only started this thread because I though bruce hit the nail right on the fucking head.


that said, i'd not ask him to leave.....just to be less of a butthole.
Stormieweather • Aug 22, 2007 1:17 pm
I find it difficult to discuss anything with RK on the forums because my impression is that he's usually saying..."I'm right, you're wrong." And there really isn't anything left to say to someone with that type of attitude.

I much prefer to engage in conversation with someone who is actually listening to what I say with the willingness to learn from the exchange. But if everything I say is met with..nope, you're wrong...and stupid...not to mention you have a reading comprehension problem, I'll quietly back away and go find something else to do.

Stormie
Cicero • Aug 22, 2007 3:17 pm
rkzenrage;377189 wrote:
Some can't keep their emotions out of a normal conversation, that is sad for them, but not my fault.


I don't think any of your conversation topics or views could be construed as normality. You usually can't even understand the scope and the breadth of the topics you yourself bring up, and start calling people names when they avidly disagree with you. Like,"sexist". I think of anyone, you are the one that gets out of hand, hiding behind a veil of loose, mainstream, and quite abnormal logic and ideas. You explain in great detail, common and specious thought. As if you've illuminated something that other people don't get. There would be nothing wrong with that if you would listen to people and know why they are asking the questions they ask- not to annoy you- but to let you arrive at the correct conclusion on your own....but you don't get it. Maybe your IQ is 170....not sure....but I have not seen great evidence of this. Genius's make connections where others cannot. I have not seen one shred of evidence that you ever have done this here on the cellar.
I don't believe your IQ is 170. I believe it's your opinion. Again.

I really don't care however, because you are a constant amusement.
:D


I am not saying any of this to make you angry....I think you think about (if you so choose), spending more time reading and considering the views of others. Not mine of course, because I apparently leave a bad taste in your mouth. The ones that you have grown to respect on this board. If anyone, I guess we'll be finding out.
DanaC • Aug 22, 2007 3:30 pm
I've had some good debates with rk on some stuff. He doesn't always follow the I'm right-You're wrong style, though of late this seems to be more the case. I believe he adds to, more than he detracts from, this community.

I also think there are times when he adds a certain insight that is uniquely his, just as we all do. Yes he can be a total dick at times...but then again so can most of us.

I know one thing though. There have been times in my life when I have been wrong on something (no? really? I hear you say, we'll not believe it, say it ain't so) and have continued to argue the case vehemently...despite and perhaps even because, a group of people disagreed with me (rghtly so) very vocally. Having firmly mounted my high horse, I found it very difficult to climb back down off it.

Just a thought.
Aliantha • Aug 22, 2007 6:01 pm
I also know for a fact that rkz sometimes posts more extreme points of view because he's not really in control of himself because of the pain he's in. This leads to him being a lot more aggressive at times than he would otherwise have been.

I've pm'd him about what i've thought to be uncalled for responses and he's apologized saying that he didn't mean to sound that way etc.

Give the man a break would you. Don't be such a bunch of hypocrits.
rkzenrage • Aug 22, 2007 6:29 pm
I don't believe your IQ is 170. I believe it's your opinion. Again.

How many times do I have to say that I think that number is bullshit? Again, it says a lot when people fixate on that number when I state that I know it is wrong.
I have recently apologized when I think I have been rude and will again if it is true.
Don't like me or my threads. why do you keep arguing with me (general question)?
smurfalicious • Aug 22, 2007 8:36 pm
Aliantha;377428 wrote:
Give the man a break would you. Don't be such a bunch of hypocrits.


give him a break? seriously???

HE should be in control of HIMself, and act like an adult. not grown up enough to carry on adult conversations without being a dick? don't participate.

it's not right that everyone else suffer his abuse. not my fault he's in the situation he's in.

misdirected anger.
Stormieweather • Aug 22, 2007 8:37 pm
Actually, I do like you...a lot. I don't necessarily agree with everything you post. But lately I sense quite a bit of hostility and contempt in your responses on this board and I am just not interested in putting my neck on your chopping block (althought the topic may interest me).

It's not just you, I'm not the kind of person you'll find swapping insults with or attacking anyone...IRL or on a message board. I do enjoy a thoughtful debate or exchange of ideas, and I do find many of those here, but in general I try to avoid getting involved with aggressive communicators.

In addition, the things I'm passionate about are things I deeply care about...so yeah, my emotions are involved. Issues that do not involve my emotions are usually those I'm more than a little indifferent or apathetic about. Personally, I think that an emotionally charged, intelligent debate is much more powerful than one from a purely intellectual point of view. More interesting too. So you and I differ on that aspect as well.

Stormie
DucksNuts • Aug 22, 2007 8:51 pm
smurfalicious;377463 wrote:

it's not right that everyone else suffer his abuse. not my fault he's in the situation he's in.

misdirected anger.


Meh - I think that is harsh.

I dont see abuse, and *everyone* else?...gimme a break. RK is not running around the board throwing abuse around willy-nilly at anyone standing still.

He may be narrow minded on things *he* believes in, and I do agree with Stormie, that its hard to have a debate with someone who isnt receptive to other opinions......but abuse and misdirected anger? nup.

I dont agree with a lot of RK's opinions, but I appreciate some of the things he brings to my attention that I may otherwise miss.
jinx • Aug 22, 2007 9:52 pm
rkzenrage;377438 wrote:

I have recently apologized when I think I have been rude and will again if it is true.


I've read this in a couple of threads now - you saying that you've apologized, and I'm curious. Is this it? Or was it somewhere else? If so, can you gimme the link?
yesman065 • Aug 22, 2007 10:56 pm
DucksNuts;377467 wrote:
Meh - I think that is harsh.
I dont agree with a lot of RK's opinions, but I appreciate some of the things he brings to my attention that I may otherwise miss.


I appreciate that from him the most as we are such polar opposites on so many things. At times he goes overboard, yes, but his opinions offer an insight that is typically so foreign to mine that it sometimes opens intriguing perspectives.
He is certainly, IMO, not the most demeaning poster on the cellar.
lumberjim • Aug 22, 2007 10:59 pm
who is, then, you little bitch?
yesman065 • Aug 22, 2007 11:00 pm
lumberjim;377492 wrote:
who is, then, you little bitch?


you tell me lj136
lumberjim • Aug 22, 2007 11:00 pm
lol......i was thinking of ...your mama
yesman065 • Aug 22, 2007 11:01 pm
If she posts here I am in seriously DEEP SHIT.
elSicomoro • Aug 22, 2007 11:39 pm
I don't think Rob is the worst poster ever...he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy, and I suspect that IRL, he's a decent guy. I could care less what his opinions are per se...it's how they're said that gets old. He's following in the vein of people like tw.

Who's being hypocritical, Ali? Many of us have been unnecessarily harsh at times...Lord knows I have. And most of us are more than willing to cut slack. But that only goes so far. If you're repeatedly taking out your problems on an internet forum, perhaps you should find a better outlet. People have the right to their opinions and should be ready to defend them here. But people should also be able to express their opinions and disagreements without getting cut down and disrespected.

Having said that, Rob doesn't seem to think that there's an issue. *shrugs* No sense in flogging that dead horse.
yesman065 • Aug 23, 2007 12:12 am
sycamore;377508 wrote:
He's following in the vein of people like tw.


OMG please NOOO- One is too many!
Aliantha • Aug 23, 2007 7:31 pm
Sycamore, to me the hypocrisy is in the very same people who acted as if they cared so much when rkz was in hospital are also posting in this thread, which in my opinion is nothing more than a bashing thread.

Why must people live with such double standards? Or is it ok to be an arsehole to someone one minute and then the next be full of concern?

Maybe that's how it works in your part of the world, but not in mine.
elSicomoro • Aug 23, 2007 8:27 pm
I don't think it's about double standards, Ali.

What he had to go through recently sucks balls, and I hope he is recovering as quickly as possible. I have concern for him in that vein. On the other hand, I don't care for the guy because he's disrespectful to the Cellar and its posters. Is that a double standard? I don't think so.
Aliantha • Aug 23, 2007 8:35 pm
For me it is a double standard. Either you care for someone or you don't. It's pretty black and white. Not too many shades of grey for me.

The way I see it is if you care about someone then you understand their motivations and reasons and if you know they're not doing so great and that they've clearly stated that they feel the place they're at ( in this case it's here ) is the only place they feel they can talk about the pain they're in, then why can't the regulars at least take that into account instead of making arses out of themselves by beating up on someone who is obviously not in the right frame of mind a lot of the time?

It's called compassion. You either have it for someone or you don't.
jinx • Aug 23, 2007 8:47 pm
I gotta disagree with you Ali. Rage guy annoys the shit of of me when he acts like an ass. Even when I agree with his points (which is at least 50% of the time) I think he makes them poorly. If the guy is sick and in the hospital though, none of that really matters does it? It's like a time-out. Real life is taking precedence over over internet bullshit. He's a real guy with a real wife and kid who love him - of course I hope he recovers as quickly as possible.

If he's in too much pain to communicate like an adult on a BB when he does recover, that's on him. There are no wheelchairs on the internet. Even if there were, I don't think he would want one.
Elspode • Aug 23, 2007 8:50 pm
I think Syc makes a valid point, here. Just because you dislike the manner of expression someone uses does not mean you'd just as soon they suffer and die. Believe me, I've got some serious IRL experience with someone in the local Pagan community who has radical opinions and an incredibly offensive manner of self expression online. He makes me angrier than any other human being on the face of the Earth, but if he fell ill or suffered any real life trauma, I would still extend him my sincerest best wishes for positive changes in his condition.

I can't see being humane as being in any way hypocritical.
theotherguy • Aug 23, 2007 9:04 pm
I can completely separate the internet rk from the real life one. On the internet, I disagree with much of what he says and the tone in which he posts it. However, I am concerned about his health in the real world. There are many folks I don't care for in my real world, but I certainly would not want anything to happen to them.
Aliantha • Aug 23, 2007 11:58 pm
OK then, if you all do care so much about rkz's real life trials, why don't you give him a bit of grace when he goes over the top; knowing that often it's the result of being less patient because he's in pain?

Why do people on the internet have to enter into these types of character assassinations? What's the point? If you think the man is a dick then just ignore him. i just can't see the logic.

There are people here who I choose to ignore most of the time because they simply bore me with their monotony. Why have the same argument with the same person over and over again? What's the point?
smurfalicious • Aug 24, 2007 12:16 am
*ahem*

not grown up enough to carry on adult conversations without being a dick? don't participate.


misdirected anger.
Aliantha • Aug 24, 2007 12:22 am
smurf, you're new here. I don't think you understand the history enough to comment personally.

You don't like the guy. Ignore him. It's pretty simple.
smurfalicious • Aug 24, 2007 12:35 am
Don't tell me what to do. Get off your high horse. This is my opinion, and I don't give a shit what you think. You're in the minority here, sweetcheeks.

Just because I'm in a bad mood, or "in pain", or whatever, I don't have the right to take it out on other people. That's immature, irrational, wrought with emotional instability, and shows a complete lack of general human respect for anyone. You wanna kiss his fat ass for his prize-winning cocksuckery - go ahead, more power to ya.

I've been around longer than you know, and certainly long enough to understand he's a miserable human being, and that it isn't MY or anyone else's fault, and that neither should I nor anyone else suffer his insults and anger because his life sucks fat donkey dick.
Aliantha • Aug 24, 2007 12:39 am
What a pathetic post. Just my opinion of course mate. I don't give a rats arse if I'm in the minority. Better that than a sheep.

You're a rude individual.
smurfalicious • Aug 24, 2007 1:36 am
aw, what's wrong, dearheart? was I rude and abusive? tell ya what, why don't you make up a good excuse for me - after all, you were so creative with rkzenrage's.

thanks, lovey!
lumberjim • Aug 24, 2007 1:57 am
Ali,

Do you think Rage wants you to treat him differently because he is unwell? Do you think he deserves special treatment?? You dishonor him, more likely.

I can see taking it easy on someone who is demonstrably mentally incapable of knocking heads with a fully jaded and sharp bladed dwellar, but Rob is in full command of his mental faculties, and has more time at his disposal than most of us. advantage his. besides the dizzying intellect.....oh wait...

i see what you're saying....I'm afraid I am rather dim... You already knew all that, and you were trying to misdirect some of the chaff. carry on.
Aliantha • Aug 24, 2007 2:55 am
No Jim, I don't think he should be treated differently. That's why I don't think he should have an entire thread devoted to hating him/taking the piss out of him/passing judgement on him.

If there is one thing about this place that I don't like, it's these types of threads. I don't think they serve any purpose. Whatever happened to attacking the post not the poster? I have had as many run ins with rkz as anyone else. Maybe even more, but I'm not taking it personally. I don't agree with how he makes his point sometimes either, but those are the times I take it up with him rather than making a hero out of someone who happens to give him a serve.

If I started a thread about everyone that said stupid stuff around here I'd be starting threads all day long.

To add to this, I don't see why rkz should have been singled out. There are a couple of women currently posting on this site who've been complete bitches but did anyone start these types of threads about them? I don't think so. So what's the difference? If you can explain that I might understand where you're coming from.
Trilby • Aug 24, 2007 8:35 am
Aliantha;377863 wrote:
There are a couple of women currently posting on this site who've been complete bitches but did anyone start these types of threads about them?


I think she means me.


It's ok. I was a bitch. Though, actually, I'd be flattered if someone started a "Brianna is a Bitch" thread---coz attention,any attention,(plus the added bonus of alliteration!) is good----right?

:)

Right!
lumberjim • Aug 24, 2007 9:33 am
Aliantha;377863 wrote:

To add to this, I don't see why rkz should have been singled out. There are a couple of women currently posting on this site who've been complete bitches but did anyone start these types of threads about them? I don't think so. So what's the difference? If you can explain that I might understand where you're coming from.


The difference, as the 'headline' indicates, is that the bitches are not starting several threads a day and hurling their views and morals at our heads like rocks. they're just bitching, as bitches are wont to do.

knowmsayin?
skysidhe • Aug 24, 2007 9:35 am
Brianna;377885 wrote:
I think she means me.


It's ok. I was a bitch. Though, actually, I'd be flattered if someone started a "Brianna is a Bitch" thread---coz attention,any attention,(plus the added bonus of alliteration!) is good----right?

:)

Right!


Ali said 'complete bitch' I am wondering which one of us is a bitch completely instead of just a lame one.

Polls need to be taken. Lame bitches to the left. Complete bitches to the right.
TheMercenary • Aug 24, 2007 9:58 am
Glad I have never been a dick or arsehole before. Or you all might me talking about me.
jinx • Aug 24, 2007 11:16 am
Aliantha;377863 wrote:

If there is one thing about this place that I don't like, it's these types of threads. I don't think they serve any purpose.


Why wouldn't you just ignore them then? Why involve yourself in threads you don't like?
HungLikeJesus • Aug 24, 2007 12:52 pm
Brianna;377885 wrote:
I think she means me.


It's ok. I was a bitch. Though, actually, I'd be flattered if someone started a "Brianna is a Bitch" thread---coz attention,any attention,(plus the added bonus of alliteration!) is good----right?

:)

Right!


Brianna is a britch? (or is that assonance?)

I'm glad to see you're back.
Spexxvet • Aug 24, 2007 1:15 pm
The double standard I see is that many folks here post with the same demeaning tone that RK does, but no one "calls" them on it or starts a thread about them. Why not? Think about Bruce and Radar (and others) in the "do you own a gun" thread. Why no thread about that?:whofart:
Undertoad • Aug 24, 2007 1:20 pm
You may start a thread, if you like.
Spexxvet • Aug 24, 2007 1:24 pm
Undertoad;377976 wrote:
You may start a thread, if you like.


I'm interested to find out the difference between Radar & Bruce's behavior and RK' behavior, and why there's no objection to similar behavior by others. Care to answer the question?
lookout123 • Aug 24, 2007 1:25 pm
I think it would be important to note that in years past Radar has been called out repeatedly.

Bruce has been slapped around in individual posts, but the huge difference is that you look at his more aggressive posts in the context of the thousands of laid-back posts and cut some slack.

I don't know Rob. I tend ignore most of his threads not because I don't like him, but really just because there are so damn many of them and they generally have a pretty bitter undertone. That is not something I appreciate. So my choice is to just not go there. That isn't a judgement on him, it is a choice of what to do with my time.

Oh, and LJ's a dick and we should all start threads telling everyone what a creep he is.:cool:
Spexxvet • Aug 24, 2007 1:33 pm
lookout123;377979 wrote:
...Oh, and LJ's a dick and we should all start threads telling everyone what a creep he is.:cool:

That's totally unnecessary. There'd really be no "discussion" - even he agrees that he's a dick. :p


Cock!
rkzenrage • Aug 24, 2007 2:35 pm
lookout123;377979 wrote:
I think it would be important to note that in years past Radar has been called out repeatedly.

Bruce has been slapped around in individual posts, but the huge difference is that you look at his more aggressive posts in the context of the thousands of laid-back posts and cut some slack.

I don't know Rob. I tend ignore most of his threads not because I don't like him, but really just because there are so damn many of them and they generally have a pretty bitter undertone. That is not something I appreciate. So my choice is to just not go there. That isn't a judgement on him, it is a choice of what to do with my time.

Oh, and LJ's a dick and we should all start threads telling everyone what a creep he is.:cool:

Most of my threads are from the news, if there is a bitter "undertone" it is not of my doing.
However, I agree, don't like me ignore my posts... it is what a mature person would do.
Clodfobble • Aug 24, 2007 6:29 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
Most of my threads are from the news, if there is a bitter "undertone" it is not of my doing.


Really? You wouldn't say this cute little commentary on your own news article isn't bitter? Not even a little bit?


Did Life Begin In Space? New Evidence From Comets

Science Daily — Recent probes inside comets show it is overwhelmingly likely that life began in space, according to a new paper by Cardiff University scientists.


rkzenrage wrote:
Dat sneaky ol' satan put tha' stuff o' life in COMETS! Sure is a slippery character!
DanaC • Aug 24, 2007 6:42 pm
I didn't think that sounded bitter. I have read some stuff rk posted that did...but I don't think that did. It just sounded funny to me.
rkzenrage • Aug 24, 2007 6:44 pm
Clodfobble;378096 wrote:
Really? You wouldn't say this cute little commentary on your own news article isn't bitter? Not even a little bit?


Yes, please explain how that is bitter.
Clodfobble • Aug 24, 2007 7:13 pm
Main Entry: 1bit·ter
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-tər\
Function: adjective

2: marked by intensity or severity:
a: accompanied by severe pain or suffering
b: being relentlessly determined
c: exhibiting intense animosity
d (1): harshly reproachful (2): marked by cynicism and rancor
rkzenrage • Aug 24, 2007 7:15 pm
None of which are present, thanks for the vindication.
yesman065 • Aug 24, 2007 7:38 pm
rk has been adament, strongwilled and over-the-top at times - but thats not really one of the best examples.
fargon • Aug 24, 2007 9:48 pm
i can sympathize with RKZ, Pain is my constant companion.

We may not always agree. If we ever did, I would have to find someplace else to play. Personal attacks are uncalled for, and the last refuge of the uneducated. Can't we all just get along, just a little?:grouphug:
Aliantha • Aug 24, 2007 10:25 pm
jinx;377930 wrote:
Why wouldn't you just ignore them then? Why involve yourself in threads you don't like?


For the same reason people who obviously don't like what rkz has to say but keep responding to him.

Also, as i mentioned, I think these threads are a deliberate attempt to be hurtful and I don't think it's necessary for grown ups to behave like this. As everyone here knows, there have been times when I've had problems with other people here, but I've never started a thread about their shitty comments and expected people to agree with me about it. I have commented before in Jims thread asking if he's a bully because he posed the question himself, so to me that's a different situation. Also, I stated my point of view and that was pretty much it.

Ultimately, I know people are going to continue to behave the way they do because it's just the way people are. I guess they're not responsible for the things they might say to deliberately hurt others. Yeah, maybe rkz doesn't care about this thread or the things people say, but maybe it does hurt other people. Maybe it disappoints people to know that there is so much malice even in a community like this.
Clodfobble • Aug 24, 2007 10:29 pm
Right, whatever. Rk is just a non-confrontational kind of guy, with no animosity towards religion whatsoever (he only means "fucking scumbags" in the politest possible way!), and his perpetual baby-talk dialect doesn't imply anything cynical about the intellect of believers, and though he finds a way to cram religion into the majority of his posts--even a completely innocuous news story about a scientific discovery, which makes no mention of religion, nor did any board member try to counter the article with creationist claims (hell, ever since OnyxCougar left I'm pretty sure there isn't a single creationist on the cellar at all)--he is not being in any way relentless.

And you know, case in point, it was a really interesting article, and would have almost certainly gotten more than four responses if he hadn't opened the discussion with his typical off-topic mockery and derision.

But you're right, Dana, clearly it was funny. The only way it could have been funnier is if he'd written "debbil" instead of "satan." Zing! No one would have seen that one coming!

Whatever. I'm done trying to help him understand why so many people think he's an asshole. Obviously it's a lost cause.
Aliantha • Aug 24, 2007 10:29 pm
Brianna, yes I was thinking of you, and one or two others when I posted that comment. Probably because I was one of your main targets and to my mind had done nothing to deserve the crap you flung at me. I appreciate that you're working through your issues now and certainly hope you get them sorted out for your own benefit. I wont mention it again.
jinx • Aug 24, 2007 11:38 pm
Aliantha;378193 wrote:
For the same reason people who obviously don't like what rkz has to say but keep responding to him.



Yeah, that was my point.
Aliantha • Aug 24, 2007 11:44 pm
So why'd you ask then matey?
Aliantha • Aug 25, 2007 12:12 am
Anyway, you're right. I'll just stay out of it now.
jinx • Aug 25, 2007 3:01 pm
Just trying to make the point with the least amount of typing on my part.
lumberjim • Aug 25, 2007 7:24 pm
Spexxvet;377978 wrote:
I'm interested to find out the difference between Radar & Bruce's behavior and RK' behavior, and why there's no objection to similar behavior by others. Care to answer the question?

sheer volume and redundance...and repetition. i just can't resist that joke. ever. what?
busterb • Aug 25, 2007 9:47 pm
:biggrin:
rkzenrage • Aug 27, 2007 4:55 am
I'm done trying to help him understand why so many people think he's an asshole.

Understand, or care?
Some people take everything personally... I won't pander to that. If someone gives me a logical, specific, reason, that shows why and how I have offended them I will consider it.
If it is just a "feeling"... nope.

Edit:
Just disagreeing is never logical, no matter what the subject.
roost • Aug 27, 2007 10:56 pm
He is a good challenge for debate.
No harm done.
rkzenrage • Aug 29, 2007 5:06 pm
Thanks.
skysidhe • Sep 19, 2007 12:26 pm
Really good perspectives and thoughts. I couldn't pick just one to comment on. Everyone has their good points....Kinda like a bowl of M-n-M's. :)
Urbane Guerrilla • Sep 29, 2007 5:30 am
Spexxvet;377970 wrote:
The double standard I see is that many folks here post with the same demeaning tone that RK does, but no one "calls" them on it or starts a thread about them. Why not? Think about Bruce and Radar (and others) in the "do you own a gun" thread. Why no thread about that?:whofart:


We could all see that you were not thinking rationally about the issue. That's why you took two pages of stare-down after your meltdown.
Spexxvet • Sep 29, 2007 8:54 am
Urbane Guerrilla;390419 wrote:

:blah: :turd:


Ill ignore you for awhile. [/jinx]
lumberjim • Sep 29, 2007 9:27 am
makes you fucking crazy, doesn't it?



of course, UG prolly doesnt give a shit what you do.
Spexxvet • Sep 29, 2007 9:34 am
lumberjim;390431 wrote:
makes you fucking crazy, doesn't it?



of course, UG prolly doesnt give a shit what you do.


Obviously, your husband is obsessed with me. She says she'll ignore me, but.....

Tell her to stop, k? It makes me uncomfortable.
lumberjim • Sep 29, 2007 9:44 am
DUDE.
Spexxvet • Sep 29, 2007 9:53 am
The only reason she acts like she's choosing to ignore me is because she can't defend herself against what I've said. She knows I'm right, and she knows she'll look foolish if she tries. And looks are what's most important to a shallow person, right?
lumberjim • Sep 29, 2007 10:10 am
you're so fucked up. just stop. you're making yourself look spiteful and bitter. I'm going to threaten you soon. this is a warning.
Spexxvet • Sep 29, 2007 10:12 am
lumberjim;390438 wrote:
you're so fucked up. just stop. you're making yourself look spiteful and bitter. I'm going to threaten you soon. this is a warning.


ooooooooo. I'm scared.

Are you so pussy whipped that you fight all of her battles? Or do you fight them because she's incapable?
lumberjim • Sep 29, 2007 10:16 am
do you have a book you're getting these lines out of? last warning. drop it, doughboy.
Spexxvet • Sep 29, 2007 10:20 am
lumberjim;390441 wrote:
do you have a book you're getting these lines out of? last warning. drop it, doughboy.


Or what?
lumberjim • Sep 29, 2007 10:52 am
OR ......


you'll get 'the treatment'
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 29, 2007 12:17 pm
Can't you two just meet at a local motel for your love fest?
lumberjim • Sep 29, 2007 6:11 pm
on second thought....i want to apologize to jinx. I shouldn't have butted in. she can totally handle herself, and obviously had the right idea by ignoring the provocation. She's tons smarter than me. I will probably get my ass handed to me tonight when i get home.....sorry, smoochie.

i have asshole buttons all over me.
Aliantha • Sep 30, 2007 1:54 am
jesus, another one. i wonder where all the love will pop up next.

Somehow, I don't think I'm going to have to look very far.
Spexxvet • Oct 1, 2007 9:27 am
lumberjim;390561 wrote:
on second thought....i want to apologize to jinx. I shouldn't have butted in. she can totally handle herself, and obviously had the right idea by ignoring the provocation. She's tons smarter than me. I will probably get my ass handed to me tonight when i get home.....sorry, smoochie.

i have asshole buttons all over me.


Uh-oh. Looks like pussywhipped got a call from skanx, telling him to stop. Or did she just take your balls out of her pocketbook and give them a hard squeeze?
BigV • Oct 1, 2007 10:54 am
weed
Cicero • Oct 13, 2007 4:36 pm
Butthole barrages board with bullshit: gets busted as Bruce.
Aliantha • Oct 13, 2007 7:09 pm
Hmmm...have i missed something?
lumberjim • Oct 17, 2007 12:18 am
[LIST=1]
[*]He has a cane with a sword in it
[*]He is an atheist
[*]he has a vast collection of pipes
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He frequently poses for pictures with said pipes
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He carves and poses with various staffs
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He has leather vests...and poses in them
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was a Model
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He got paid as such
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was an actor
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was a bouncer
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He has a tazer
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was a teacher/prof
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was a rancher
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was a chef
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He can score 170 on children's IQ tests
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He can figure out your true nature very quickly
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He can find your crazy G spot
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He has several guns
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He does NOT believe in God
[*]He renounces religion
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He does NOT believe in God
[*]He is an atheist[/LIST]
lumberjim • Oct 17, 2007 12:21 am
i feel like i forgot something
rkzenrage • Oct 17, 2007 12:25 am
I can't ever remember posing for a photo with a pipe.
You know all that about me and all I know is that you are a dick and yet, I still don't feel cheated.
Aliantha • Oct 17, 2007 12:26 am
yeah, it was the point you were trying to make.

what was it?
Mockingbird • Oct 17, 2007 12:29 am
BigV;390947 wrote:
weed
lumberjim • Oct 17, 2007 12:52 am
lumberjim;396108 wrote:
i feel like i forgot something


fuck!

tazer thwarter inventor! I knew i forgot something!
lookout123 • Oct 17, 2007 1:23 am
Yep, I think you've hit the important points LJ.
rkzenrage • Oct 17, 2007 1:24 am
lumberjim;396125 wrote:
fuck!

tazer thwarter inventor! I knew i forgot something!


I want to invent it... I have not. Get it right.
Aliantha • Oct 17, 2007 1:26 am
It's like a train wreck.

You know what you're going to see, but you just can't help looking anyway.
lumberjim • Oct 17, 2007 1:28 am
damn! 'potential tazer thwarter inventor?'
Spexxvet • Oct 17, 2007 9:00 am
lookout123;396143 wrote:
Yep, I think you've hit the important points LJ.


Get back to work.
Sundae • Oct 17, 2007 4:40 pm
Without suggesting I condone the list...
You did miss out the fact that he considers all European countries to be fascist police states and all Europeans undeserving of freedom.
Griff • Oct 17, 2007 6:33 pm
You missed the property rights as long as he isn't personally inconvenienced thing and that fact that he is, apparently, an atheist. [COLOR="White"]there were also claims about gas mileage and atheism[/COLOR]
Cloud • Oct 17, 2007 6:59 pm
lumberjim;396103 wrote:
[LIST=1]
[*]He has a cane with a sword in it
[*]He is an atheist
[*]he has a vast collection of pipes
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He frequently poses for pictures with said pipes
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He carves and poses with various staffs
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He has leather vests...and poses in them
[*]He is an atheist
[*]He was a Model
[*]He is an atheist
. . .[/LIST]


looks like someone's in luuuuurve!
Undertoad • Oct 17, 2007 9:26 pm
He worked as a bouncer
He worked on a ranch
He worked as an actor
He worked in insurance
He had a conversation with Drew Barrymore
People are writing scripts for him

I think the Talking Heads had a song with these lyrics.
zippyt • Oct 17, 2007 9:31 pm
this ain't no party ,
this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fool'n around !!
rkzenrage • Oct 17, 2007 9:46 pm
Not a script for me, will put a small part in for me from time to time. Get it right. You too UT... I'm flattered.
lookout123 • Oct 17, 2007 10:04 pm
at what point do the delusional come to the realization that when everyone has a problem with them, it might not be everyone else that has the problem?
rkzenrage • Oct 17, 2007 10:26 pm
Please, enlighten us to my "problem" sport.
monster • Oct 17, 2007 10:35 pm
Who is "us"?
Flint • Oct 17, 2007 11:05 pm
Who is "everyone"?
monster • Oct 17, 2007 11:12 pm
that too...
Aliantha • Oct 18, 2007 2:29 am
that three...
freshnesschronic • Oct 18, 2007 4:13 am
the problem is fatass is obviously jealous of rk's talents and skills so chooses to use crude humor to attempt to ridicule a man much, much bigger than he (figuratively)
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monster • Oct 18, 2007 9:37 am
Oh god it would be so funny to take this onto tv :lol:
Spexxvet • Oct 18, 2007 10:26 am
I predict Limpjism would smash RK over the head with his own wheelchair.
lumberjim • Oct 18, 2007 10:46 am
i don't have a wheelchair, crazy guy.
monster • Oct 18, 2007 11:09 am
rkzenrage;396110 wrote:
I can't ever remember posing for a photo with a pipe.



http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p=365040&postcount=63

oh and there was another mention of the infamous river pic there too.....

:lol:
Cicero • Oct 18, 2007 11:19 am
I don't want to get in the middle of this benign fray here, but there is someone else now exhibiting all of the tell-tale signs.

Ok, let me be the first. Robster. I am trying to stop all of the absolutely meaningless bullshit threads that are about to occur here.......someone...please.......This is about to be very painful.

Any help in this matter would be very greatly apreciated.

I know many of you accept most of the major credit cards.

Signed,
Cicero
dar512 • Oct 18, 2007 11:21 am
Anyone else reminded of this for some reason?
Flint • Oct 18, 2007 11:22 am
robsterman1 is probably immune to anything you can throw at him
glatt • Oct 18, 2007 11:23 am
is AG down again or something?
Flint • Oct 18, 2007 11:26 am
No... Hmmm. Maybe Soundchain is.
rkzenrage • Oct 19, 2007 3:08 am
monster;396611 wrote:
http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p=365040&postcount=63

oh and there was another mention of the infamous river pic there too.....

:lol:


The river pic was posed, it was a joke. That pic was not posed, I was smoking by a pool and my wife took my pic.
DanaC • Oct 19, 2007 4:06 am
You know...when I come home from a meeting that's turned into a battleground, stepping over the bodies on the way out, I think to myself, "Wonder what's going down in the Cellar tonight?" and happily I trot home to remind myself that people can actually be decent ....and this is what I find.

Please....please won't someone think of the children?
ZenGum • Oct 19, 2007 4:11 am
DanaC;396989 wrote:
You know...when I come home from a meeting that's turned into a battleground, stepping over the bodies on the way out, I think to myself, "Wonder what's going down in the Cellar tonight?" and happily I trot home to remind myself that people can actually be decent ....and this is what I find.

Please....please won't someone think of the children?


:comfort:

I hears ya, sister.

Although if you were looking for humour, tolerance and sensible discussion ... this might not have been the best thread to pick! :lol:

How'd the meeting go? No wait, tell us in the "whats upsetting you" thread, for continuity.
DanaC • Oct 19, 2007 4:17 am
*chuckles* the meeting was interesting. I've talked about the overall situation in that thread. The next few meetings are likely to be even more interesting (in the Chinese sense of the word) :P
monster • Oct 19, 2007 8:44 am
So if the real threads are going to be taken over by arguing and shit, perhaps we should storm the BS threads and bombard them with real discussion?
monster • Oct 19, 2007 8:49 am
rkzenrage;396977 wrote:
The river pic was posed, it was a joke. That pic was not posed, I was smoking by a pool and my wife took my pic.



Well that changes everything, thank you for clearing that up :)

Now I realize how wrong I was, it's now obvious that you are not an attention-whore-troll and that you truly don't care what anyone thinks. My apologies for my denseness. :)
monster • Oct 22, 2007 12:26 am
lumberjim;396108 wrote:
i feel like i forgot something


dxylexslc (high functioning, high intelligence version, natch)
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 12:34 am
Take note any new people and anyone else, let these people know anything about you and they WILL use it against you.
If you care at all, don't do it, they are in 3rd grade.
monster • Oct 22, 2007 12:42 am
:uoch:
Aliantha • Oct 22, 2007 1:57 am
I think 3rd grade is being a bit mean. I was putting them at least at grade 5.
lumberjim • Oct 22, 2007 7:26 am
rkzenrage;397863 wrote:
Take note any new people and anyone else, let these people know anything about you and they WILL use it against you.


That's right...unless we think there's a chance that some of it might be true.
Spexxvet • Oct 22, 2007 9:04 am
soothsayer Limpjism;397912 wrote:
That's right...unless we think there's a chance that some of it might be true.


Because you can tell whenever anyone is telling the truth. That's about as strong a claim as saying you were a model or have a sword in your cane.
lumberjim • Oct 22, 2007 9:21 am
I can certainly tell if I THINK it's true. I also think it's true that you are consumed by spite and hatred, and your once tenuous popularity is steadily slipping away. suxx to be you.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 9:59 am
Yeah, I'm the stalker who spends his entire time on the board doing nothing but harassing people & contributing nothing else.
I would love it if people just replied to my threads and discussed the topics like adults. That is what I would prefer.
You are the one who started this troll/hater thread because that is what you are, all you are.
I could give a fuck what you believe.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 10:01 am
monster;397062 wrote:
Well that changes everything, thank you for clearing that up :)

Now I realize how wrong I was, it's now obvious that you are not an attention-whore-troll and that you truly don't care what anyone thinks. My apologies for my denseness. :)


Perfect example... I try to post something for fun and monster takes it and does what with it?
Expose anything, share anything, and what happens here?
Another bully.
You belong in this thread with LJ, you are exactly like him.

I have never taken anything personal any of you have shared here and used it to ridicule or try to hurt you with it... all of you love to jump on the "let's trash RK bandwagon" because its fun... he doesn't care any time you run out of logic for your arguments like any kid.
It's true, I don't, I would never let myself care what a bunch of selfish bullies like you think about me... no sane person would.
There was a time when I started to, you showed me the error of that.
monster • Oct 22, 2007 10:44 am
Fair enough, rkz. In the cold light of the morning, I see I should just have left it. I do think you're full of BS and will claim anything for attention, but what good is calling you on it going to do? you're a troll, and I'm feeding you.

To anyone who is truly dyslexic and was truly offended, I apologize, but honestly, some people takes things way to seriously. Life's better if you can laugh at your woes and all that.....

Rk, you must have remarkable skills to have overcome it so well that this is the first time it has shown up on the board in all of those posts. congratulations.

To everyone else, I apologise and will try harder to ignore him in future.
lumberjim • Oct 22, 2007 10:47 am
crapflooder
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 10:48 am
I spell check, it isn't hard genius.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 10:48 am
lumberjim;397948 wrote:
crapflooder


In THIS thread, LOL! :D
lumberjim • Oct 22, 2007 10:49 am
no, on this board. you flood it with crap.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 10:50 am
Yeah... coming from you... as ever, a compliment.
lumberjim • Oct 22, 2007 10:52 am
as ever, mr haterman.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 10:56 am
Project much?
monster • Oct 22, 2007 10:57 am
rkzenrage;397949 wrote:
I spell check, it isn't hard genius.



Oh FFS. Spellchecking isn't enough to hide dyslexia. It's not just about misspelling words. It's way more complex than that. There are many more indicators. If you have to deal with it, you should know that. That's why I think you're full of BS. Yes I really, really, really do have a cognitive science PhD.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 10:59 am
I don't doubt you and don't give a shit if you don't believe me.
Spexxvet • Oct 22, 2007 11:00 am
lumberjim;397926 wrote:
I can certainly tell if I THINK it's true. I also think it's true that you are consumed by spite and hatred, and your once tenuous popularity is steadily slipping away. suxx to be you.


So popularity is the goal here, junior high boy? Are you gonna dye your hair blonde, too?

I just don't like when I see an asshole, and his/her assholites ganging up on someone with their spite and hatred.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 11:02 am
Popularity! LOL!!!!!
I missed that one.
Again, discussion board, I come here for that feature alone.
As you can see by another of monster's bullying statements above, if you look for more, you are going to get attempted harm.
One day they are saying that I edit too much, the next that I can't be dyslexic (I didn't discuss the intricacies of my symptoms in enough detail for the good Dr.), LOL... too fun!
monster • Oct 22, 2007 11:06 am
So I'm a bully and BigV's a troll.

pot kettle black much?
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 11:09 am
When do I troll? When do I bully?
Posting controversial topics on a DISCUSSION BOARD is trolling, LOL... again, genius.
Bully? Again, I have never used personal information for harm like you like to do.
When people open-up in here all I have ever done is be encouraging and have never thrown it back in their face because I know how it feels, as it is a daily occurrence from most of you for me.
Project much?
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 11:16 am
It is not my fault many of you don't like some of my topics or opinions.

If you get butthurt when someone disagrees with you and cannot discuss (on a discussion board, LOL!!!) a topic without taking dissenting views as a personal attack (opinions are not "you") then just stay out of those threads.
It ain't hard.
But, you don't, you get butthurt and then think it is my fault somehow when all I have done is fulfill the charter of this site.
Then you want me to feel bad about your waaaahhhh because you don't like my views on a subject... especially when it is worse when I have backed them with outside criteria? Ummmmm...no.
So, what is the next step... what would a kid do?
Take anything they know about that person, anything personal and twist-it, turn-it, or if it is personal enough, just use it, use it and use it to try to hurt them... but if they just don't care, try and try and try, stalk and stalk and harass, harass, harass again....
Yup, that is what is happening.
lumberjim • Oct 22, 2007 11:19 am
Spexxvet;397960 wrote:
So popularity is the goal here, junior high boy? Are you gonna dye your hair blonde, too?


yes,yes, popularity is the goal. and you're really circling the bowl at this point. plus....my hair is already blonde.
Spexxvet;397960 wrote:

I just don't like when I see an asshole, and his/her assholites ganging up on someone with their spite and hatred.

so, you're the hero of the abused and picked on then? is that why you can't help but hitch your wagon to anyone who i happen to take a poke at? or is it because you figure that you're somehow obliged to defend those that are too stupid or frail to do it for themselves? or maybe you just want some attention from me because you love me? you used adulate me in an uncomfortable kind of way. this new hatred thing is all the creepier because of it, too. you make me really really uncomfortable, dude.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 11:20 am
popularity is the goal.

Kids.:rolleyes:
Spexxvet • Oct 22, 2007 11:21 am
lumberjim;397974 wrote:
.... you make me really really uncomfortable, dude.


Good. Leave. Bu-bye.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 11:23 am
He lives for uncomfortable.
DanaC • Oct 22, 2007 1:31 pm
Rk, you must have remarkable skills to have overcome it so well that this is the first time it has shown up on the board in all of those posts. congratulations.


Actually, I'm pretty sure rk's mentioned his dyslexia before. Long time ago though, so i am not going to trawl through and locate it.

You're right that it's hard to hide dyslexia, but in fairness since it affects different people differently, it's entirely possible (in my view) that someone could not show up as dyslexic on a board like this. There have been times when rk has made spelling mistakes which absolutely could be due to dyslexia, and often they're repeated mistakes. I can't think of examples but I am pretty sure I spotted some after he first mentioned dyslexia about 8 months ago. I stopped looking after that, so couldn't tell you if they've re-occurred since.

I've known dyslexics who have developed very good coping strategies, such as spell-checking everything before they input it. Not all dyslexics, in my experience, have the same difficulties with sentence structure and sequencing, so I don't see how it would be possible to say with any degree of surety that someone with access to a spell-checker would automatically still show up as dyslexic.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 2:01 pm
It's not just spelling, it's a few things, I have learned to check for them, but I often go back and edit them after I miss them.
But, it does not matter, either you will act like you don't believe me or use it to try to hurt me, either way.
monster • Oct 22, 2007 3:01 pm
Ok, I'm sorry rkz, I guess I let my annoyance at your assertations regarding dyslexia cloud my judgment. I did not see the previous mention of it before, so it seemed to come out of the blue, and "the boy who cried wolf syndrome" kicked in. I accept that I was wrong and so my mentioning it in this thread was inappropriate and I apologize for that and any hurt it caused you.

I regularly work with a range of dyslexic people and I have also come across a good number who claim to be dyslexic out of sheer laziness and/or attention-seeking. The latter make my blood boil, wasting resources so badly needed by those who do struggle. So i guess I'm more cynical than I should be.



Regarding the pot, kettle, black. You are name-calling, which is a bullying behaviour. but I'm just not going to argue the toss any further.
rkzenrage • Oct 22, 2007 3:09 pm
Thank you.
I have never asked for any extra help in the form of special treatment. I paid for my own tutors in school in the subjects that I needed the extra help in and just put the extra time in.
We all have our talents and things that we need to work harder with, this is how I have always viewed my dyslexia and my physical pain.

I have never instigated any of the personal attacks, only retaliated, though I should just ignore them, I agree with you on that point.
bluecuracao • Oct 22, 2007 6:51 pm
rkzenrage;398116 wrote:
I have never instigated any of the personal attacks


So you don't think it's a personal attack, when you call someone who disagrees with you a "moron?"
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 12:20 am
Hmmmmm... is calling a name an attack or just an insult?
Good question, I guess it depends on the "offended" party takes it and how sensitive they are.
I would not feel attacked, insulted perhaps... if I cared about the person.
Aliantha • Oct 23, 2007 12:22 am
I don't think calling someone a moron just because they either don't understand or don't agree is conducive to good discussion rkz, and that's what you say you want here.
monster • Oct 23, 2007 12:33 am
rkzenrage;398388 wrote:
Hmmmmm... is calling a name an attack or just an insult?
Good question, I guess it depends on the "offended" party takes it and how sensitive they are.
I would not feel attacked, insulted perhaps... if I cared about the person.


but you don't care, right? ;)

Yes, it is an attack. perhaps you wouldn''t view it as an attack if you were the recipient. So you feel it'sa OK to do it? Now extrapolate that, and apply to other dwellars.
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 12:48 am
I apologize for calling you a name if I did.

It's more than I will ever get, and no I do not care any more, how could I and stay, especially after the kinds of things said to me today... though I do mean it.

I don't think calling someone a moron just because they either don't understand or don't agree is conducive to good discussion rkz, and that's what you say you want here.

Well said, I agree.
Aliantha • Oct 23, 2007 12:52 am
Maybe people are just trying to explain to you why they react the way they do? What's ok for oneself is not always ok with others, hence the conflict over stupid things.
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 12:58 am
I clearly explained exactly what happens... people take my disagreeing with them personally, then they attack me then when I respond, for reasons I can't figure out, other's react as if I started it.
That is aside from the stalkers.
Aliantha • Oct 23, 2007 1:02 am
well I think I"m generally pretty reasonable with you but you still piss me off more than most other posters mate.

Maybe that's my problem, but it seems like others feel the same way. Maybe there's something in that, and maybe there's not. I can only say how I feel sometimes.

I mean this with all due respect I hope you realize.
lumberjim • Oct 23, 2007 1:04 am
rkzenrage;398396 wrote:
I clearly explained exactly what happens... people take my disagreeing with them personally, then they attack me then when I respond, for reasons I can't figure out, other's react as if I started it.
That is aside from the stalkers.


yeah, well....there haven't been many clues to go by there, hey? hmm...I wonder why people react the way they do......maybe if there was someone with a really really high IQ to help us figure it out.....or if someone could read? hmmm..oh well. guess you should just keep on deluding yourself that people are just stalking you and being mean to you for no reason. yeah.. that'd be best.
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 1:12 am
Aliantha;398397 wrote:
well I think I"m generally pretty reasonable with you but you still piss me off more than most other posters mate.

Maybe that's my problem, but it seems like others feel the same way. Maybe there's something in that, and maybe there's not. I can only say how I feel sometimes.

I mean this with all due respect I hope you realize.


I only have the best of feelings toward you.
I can't post much more tonight. Sorry.
Aliantha • Oct 23, 2007 1:17 am
Well I hope you feel a bit better tomorrow.

Don't worry about this place anyway. It's just words on a screen. Some people should try and remember that I guess. Myself included.
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 1:19 am
Thanks. Don't know how long it will be this time. Seeing a few people on Wed.
DucksNuts • Oct 23, 2007 6:43 am
Hey Rk....I am sorry you arent well tonite.

You've gotten under my skin a few times, but I have never held a grudge.

As mentioned before, I really do appreciate the things you point out to me that I wouldnt have heard about otherwise.

Yes, it seems that a few of the members have issues with your way of posting, but I dont agree with the way they have handled it.

I read what you post, if its waaaaaay left field of what I believe, but I feel the need to comment, I will.....otherwise I just go ..."Pffff" in my head and move on.

Get well :)
DanaC • Oct 23, 2007 6:56 am
Yeah, get well soon rk. *hugs*
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 4:54 pm
DucksNuts;398448 wrote:
Hey Rk....I am sorry you arent well tonite.

You've gotten under my skin a few times, but I have never held a grudge.

As mentioned before, I really do appreciate the things you point out to me that I wouldnt have heard about otherwise.

Yes, it seems that a few of the members have issues with your way of posting, but I dont agree with the way they have handled it.

I read what you post, if its waaaaaay left field of what I believe, but I feel the need to comment, I will.....otherwise I just go ..."Pffff" in my head and move on.

Get well :)


Big respect to you Duck! That is the way to do it, the only grown-up way.
Well done!
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bluecuracao • Oct 23, 2007 11:17 pm
rkzenrage;398396 wrote:
I clearly explained exactly what happens... people take my disagreeing with them personally, then they attack me then when I respond, for reasons I can't figure out, other's react as if I started it.
That is aside from the stalkers.


No, that's not what happens.

I've clearly explained to you before why people get upset with you. I'll try again, since you seem open to it at the moment, and I really want you to understand.

It's not because you disagree with them, it's the way you do it--with remarks such as "you are a moron," "you are stupid," "this is beneath me," "this is a waste of time," "you can't comprehend what you read," etc. etc. And you don't treat just one or two people like that, you do it to anyone who responds to you with an opposing view.

People disagree with each other all the time here--that's part of what makes the Cellar so interesting. But there's just no need for those extra insults that I pointed out, which you've engaged in much too regularly. It's those insults in the midst of good discussion that piss people off, because they drag down what might otherwise be a fun and intelligent debate, to just plain rudeness.
freshnesschronic • Oct 23, 2007 11:26 pm
RESPEK

hahahah nice one rk with Ali G. Made me giggle.
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 11:34 pm
bluecuracao;398760 wrote:
No, that's not what happens.

I've clearly explained to you before why people get upset with you. I'll try again, since you seem open to it at the moment, and I really want you to understand.

It's not because you disagree with them, it's the way you do it--with remarks such as "you are a moron," "you are stupid," "this is beneath me," "this is a waste of time," "you can't comprehend what you read," etc. etc. And you don't treat just one or two people like that, you do it to anyone who responds to you with an opposing view.

People disagree with each other all the time here--that's part of what makes the Cellar so interesting. But there's just no need for those extra insults that I pointed out, which you've engaged in much too regularly. It's those insults in the midst of good discussion that piss people off, because they drag down what might otherwise be a fun and intelligent debate, to just plain rudeness.


I have already stated I only argue with people on a personal level once attacked... I will now ignore those who do this, it is beneath me.
lumberjim • Oct 23, 2007 11:45 pm
rkzenrage;398765 wrote:
I have already stated I only argue with people on a personal level once attacked... I will now ignore those who do this, it is beneath me.


**coughbullshitcough**
bluecuracao • Oct 23, 2007 11:51 pm
rkzenrage;398765 wrote:
I have already stated I only argue with people on a personal level once attacked


Either you're lying, or you have a very bad memory. Regardless of the reason, if you keep responding to people with insults, you're going to keep getting shit back. Oh well.
rkzenrage • Oct 23, 2007 11:55 pm
I will now ignore those who do this, it is beneath me.
lumberjim • Oct 23, 2007 11:57 pm
now....had you truly ignored me....you wouldn't have posted that.
bluecuracao • Oct 24, 2007 12:09 am
Well rk, you might as well ignore everyone then. Why are you still here.
rkzenrage • Oct 24, 2007 12:10 am
lumberjim;398778 wrote:
now....had you truly ignored me....you wouldn't have posted that.


I was not replying to you.
rkzenrage • Oct 24, 2007 12:11 am
bluecuracao;398782 wrote:
Well rk, you might as well ignore everyone then. Why are you still here.


"Everyone" attacks personally? :eek:
Hardly.
bluecuracao • Oct 24, 2007 12:14 am
My point exactly.
rkzenrage • Oct 24, 2007 12:50 am
What the hell are you talking about?
bluecuracao • Oct 24, 2007 1:25 am
Well...I don't attack you personally, nor do many others who've replied to your arguments. Yet you've repeatedly responded with the aforementioned insults during the course of discussion.
rkzenrage • Oct 24, 2007 1:35 am
If you have read this thread I apologized for calling anyone names... you are late. Tail-posting.
bluecuracao • Oct 24, 2007 2:15 am
So you understand then. Great. :rolleyes:
Aliantha • Oct 24, 2007 2:17 am
Now how bout a truce you pair? Start fresh and then see what happens. :) Pretty please?

Shit, when it gets to me trying to stop conflict it must be pretty bad.
Just ask Bruce.
rkzenrage • Oct 24, 2007 2:20 am
I was done already.
bluecuracao • Oct 24, 2007 2:23 am
Yeah, we'll see what happens. I put forth a rational explanation, and it was met with nothing but smarm. Rk gets whatever he deserves, as far as I'm concerned.
rkzenrage • Oct 24, 2007 2:30 am
I was not smarmy in any way.
You read that into it all on your own.
Funny, you use words like "rational" to describe yourself and "smarm" to describe me and end with this:
Rk gets whatever he deserves, as far as I'm concerned.

We don't have to wait to see anything.
I will not reply to you again.
bluecuracao • Oct 24, 2007 3:18 am
rkzenrage;398842 wrote:
I was not smarmy in any way.
You read that into it all on your own.
Funny, you use words like "rational" to describe yourself and "smarm" to describe me and end with this:

We don't have to wait to see anything.
I will not reply to you again.


You must not know what smarmy means, then, if you don't realize you're being so.

There's nothing funny about any of this. You've been consistently abusing the Cellar with your off-kilter rantings for quite some time now, while trying to play it off with reports of your ill condition. Whenever anyone counters with a position opposite of your raving opinions, you systematically respond with abuse. Then, when it gets kicked backed to you more intensely than you can handle, you cry crippled. It's beyond old. Get the fuck over yourself, or get the fuck out out of here.
rkzenrage • Oct 25, 2007 5:10 pm
You must not know what smarmy means, then, if you don't realize you're being so

Oh I do... I also know it is impossible to read that into that text without you doing on your side alone.
You really don't see what I found funny? That is extra funny!
Again, you say I'm mean during this? LOLZ!!!!
There's nothing funny about any of this. You've been consistently abusing the Cellar with your off-kilter rantings for quite some time now, while trying to play it off with reports of your ill condition. Whenever anyone counters with a position opposite of your raving opinions, you systematically respond with abuse. Then, when it gets kicked backed to you more intensely than you can handle, you cry crippled. It's beyond old. Get the fuck over yourself, or get the fuck out out of here.

You are a genius!
I really should not have replied but you so perfectly illustrated what I stated earlier what has been going on... thank you so much!
Now, done with you.
*scrapes shoe*
lookout123 • Oct 25, 2007 6:07 pm
Now, done with you.
*scrapes shoe*

ah, there's the condescension that makes you so loveable.:thumb:
rkzenrage • Oct 25, 2007 6:16 pm
Anytime.
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 2:03 am
rkzenrage;399479 wrote:
Oh I do... I also know it is impossible to read that into that text without you doing on your side alone.
You really don't see what I found funny? That is extra funny!
Again, you say I'm mean during this? LOLZ!!!!


ORLY? Only you can read smarm into text, and no one else? Ah, that's right--because you are expert at reading people.

rkzenrage;399479 wrote:
I really should not have replied but you so perfectly illustrated what I stated earlier what has been going on... thank you so much!


Yup, you probably shouldn't have, because you're just making it more obvious that you are completely delusional. You never stated any of what I described.
rkzenrage • Oct 26, 2007 2:05 am
Ah, that's right--because you are expert at reading people.

Again, take note newer people, never state anything on this site in good faith anywhere you don't want dwellers to use against you later... it is a hobby of many of them, like this one who even uses people's disability in arguments (I have never used my disability in a disagreement, he is just a bigot).
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 2:10 am
Well, as long as the newer people you're pretending to be concerned about don't try to feed others loads of hypocrisy and insults, then they will be fine.
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 2:13 am
rkzenrage;399716 wrote:
(I have never used my disability in a disagreement, he is just a bigot).


Yes you have, and you're doing it now again.
rkzenrage • Oct 26, 2007 2:19 am
bluecuracao;399725 wrote:
Yes you have, and you're doing it now again.


Then, when it gets kicked backed to you more intensely than you can handle, you cry crippled.

Cite where I did this and I will concede. I am not doing anything now but calling you on a lie and warning others to a common aspect of this board, one you are clearly guilty of being a part of.
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 2:31 am
Guilty of what--pointing out your manipulative arguing tactics? If you don't like being called out on bad behavior, don't engage in it.

If you can't remember your own shenanigans (which I don't believe), go through your own posts yourself and find all of them. You'll be there awhile--have fun.
rkzenrage • Oct 26, 2007 2:34 am
I see.
Cicero • Oct 26, 2007 1:04 pm
Can we leave RK the fu** alone for just one day?!? Pick a day...any day. Not today because it's too late.....

Everyone knows he can be petty, obnoxious, and manipulative. Just like everyone else.
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 1:33 pm
You have got to be kidding me. In case you haven't noticed, this hasn't exactly been a one-sided exchange here. As long as rk continues to reply, I'll decide for myself whether or not I'll reply back.
Cicero • Oct 26, 2007 1:41 pm
I know...I know....
lumberjim • Oct 26, 2007 1:43 pm
Cicero;400029 wrote:
Can we leave RK the fu** alone for just one day?!? Pick a day...any day. Not today because it's too late.....


are you encouraging us to fuck with him today? sorry...i'm giving him the week off.
Cicero • Oct 26, 2007 1:51 pm
No, I'm not kidding.
Rk should stop it too. (Especially RK)
:D
I'm sorry. I'm just in one of those "everyone lets hold hands" moods.

It's alright to kick me. I would....
:o
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 1:55 pm
No, no kicking...I'm sorry too, for being snippy at ya.
lumberjim • Oct 26, 2007 1:55 pm
why do so many people feel the need to barge in to an argument and try to tell the participants to 'just stop it'. Are they expecting them to actually listen? or are they just trying to involve themselves in the row? If the argument makes you uncomfortable just go read another thread.


did you see what i did thar?
Cicero • Oct 26, 2007 2:45 pm
:D

I see you are still working on that bad country accent. McCaughnehy.

That thar's an arrrgume-ant i don' lie-uck.
rkzenrage • Oct 26, 2007 4:38 pm
Actually I had not replied to this thread for several days when blue decided out-of-nowhere to rant about me, for no reason. So, his claim of:
this hasn't exactly been a one-sided exchange here

is utter bullshit.
jinx • Oct 26, 2007 8:47 pm
RK, wtf? You've posted in this thread every day since the 22nd.
monster • Oct 26, 2007 8:58 pm
rkzenrage;400132 wrote:
Actually I had not replied to this thread for several days when blue decided out-of-nowhere to rant about me, for no reason. So, his claim of:

"this hasn't exactly been a one-sided exchange here"

is utter bullshit.


No, it would be bullshit if you hadn't responded. But you did, making it two-sided. Who started it and whether they were justified or not is a whole different issue. Also, it was less than 24 hours rather than several days -I know how you are a stickler for the truth, it must have just felt like several days.

And just to help you "read" blue a little better -he's a she.

now back to your scheduled squabbling..... :D

:corn:
monster • Oct 26, 2007 8:58 pm
jinx;400218 wrote:
RK, wtf? You've posted in this thread every day since the 22nd.


pah, I got distracted by food and you posted meanwhile! :lol:
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 9:02 pm
Damn, monster. And here I was, enjoying being all enigmatic.
monster • Oct 26, 2007 10:03 pm
bluecuracao;400228 wrote:
Damn, monster. And here I was, enjoying being all enigmatic.


you want me to edit? I may still be within the half hour..... :lol:
bluecuracao • Oct 26, 2007 10:13 pm
No, then I might be a little annoyed...
Cicero • Oct 29, 2007 1:54 pm
Wow...blue? Really? You're not a woman? I need to start paying more attention...holy shit. Seriously...I never get that right.... New thread!

I read "cat mom" wrong....

I don't know...I'm very confused naturally..
DanaC • Oct 29, 2007 8:47 pm
Wow...blue? Really? You're not a woman? I need to start paying more attention...holy shit. Seriously...I never get that right.... New thread!


No Cic, Blue is a woman. Rk kept referring to her as a him. Monster was pointing out that he was mistaken.
lumberjim • Oct 29, 2007 9:16 pm
stop bumping this thread. until thursday.