Homophobia, the reality

rkzenrage • Aug 16, 2007 4:12 pm
BTW, this is not the only time this study has been done.
The result is always the same.
Homophobes are closeted, or at least in violent denial about their homosexual urges.
You have to ask, why would one CARE what another does and feels when it has no affect on them?
The answer is simple, they are affected because they are attracted.
It is the only answer we now know.

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IS HOMOPHOBIA ASSOCIATED WITH HOMOSEXUAL AROUSAL?by Henry E. Adams, Ph.D., Lester W. Wright, Jr., Ph.D. and Bethany A. Lohr
New Study Links Homophobia with Homosexual Arousal
Questions Whether It Is Latent Homosexuality Or A Response to Anxiety

http://www.selfhelpmagazine.com/articles/glb/glbtphobia.html

Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia --the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the August issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 4:36 pm
Any man who won't admit that, in extreme circumstances, he'd totally gay it up with another guy is a fag.
Griff • Aug 16, 2007 5:19 pm
Perry Winkle;375431 wrote:
Any man who won't admit that, in extreme circumstances, he'd totally gay it up with another guy is a fag.


Brilliant!!!
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 5:30 pm
And what has the pope got to do with these scientific studies?
rkzenrage • Aug 16, 2007 5:32 pm
He is a huge homophobe and therefore repressed homosexual, clearly.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 5:33 pm
xoxoxoBruce;375467 wrote:
And what has the pope got to do with these scientific studies?


Didn't you read what rkzenrage wrote at all?
Flint • Aug 16, 2007 5:36 pm
Nobody reads anymore. Not even putting your post on top of a picture of the pope works with this crowd.
rkzenrage • Aug 16, 2007 5:38 pm
Seems to be a real issue the last few days... it has been really pathetic.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 5:42 pm
rkzenrage;375474 wrote:
Seems to be a real issue the last few days... it has been really pathetic.


Yes, the effectiveness of my pre-pope-picture text has also declined over the last several days.
Shawnee123 • Aug 16, 2007 5:44 pm
I don't know, if the pope is in a pizza he's pretty damn effective.
Clodfobble • Aug 16, 2007 5:54 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
He is a huge homophobe and therefore repressed homosexual, clearly.


Meh. He's sexually repressed in all facets; the man's a virgin, for crying out loud. No way to know if he truly resents homosexuals to a greater or lesser degree than, say, adulterers.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 6:01 pm
Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) on the Pope's trip to Turkey a while back: "Anyway, I know I feel more comfortable with the Pope in Turkey. When it comes to handling delicate matters affecting the survival of the planet, you want to send in the 79-year old German guy with a Marge Simpson hat, a history of talking directly to God, and seven decades of sperm backup. I don’t see how that could go wrong."
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 6:03 pm
Perry Winkle;375470 wrote:
Didn't you read what rkzenrage wrote at all?
Yes, I read what he wrote, that's why I asked why the picture of the pope, asshole.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 6:07 pm
xoxoxoBruce;375499 wrote:
Yes, I read what he wrote, that's why I asked why the picture of the pope, asshole.


Thanks, I amuse myself.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 6:15 pm
I'm sure you do, just don't do it in public.
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 6:21 pm
Seems to be a real issue the last few days... it has been really pathetic.


Is that reference to the abortion thread?
Flint • Aug 16, 2007 7:02 pm
Bruce, please re-boot your sarcasm detector.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 8:00 pm
Flint;375526 wrote:
Bruce, please re-boot your sarcasm detector.


He's right. I really am being an asshole today.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 8:38 pm
Flint;375526 wrote:
Bruce, please re-boot your sarcasm detector.

Taking a quote from someone and superimposing it on someone else, is not sarcasm. It's nothing short of a blatant lie to further a fucked up, ongoing, agenda, that's getting really tedious. It's in the same league with Gannet.
Aliantha • Aug 16, 2007 8:49 pm
Of course the pope is a fag. He's catholic!
yesman065 • Aug 16, 2007 8:57 pm
Ali, Thats just wrong - really wrong.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 8:59 pm
Hey, she calls soccer, football, so whatta ya expect.
Flint • Aug 16, 2007 9:06 pm
Perry Winkle;375470 wrote:
Didn't you read what rkzenrage wrote at all?


Flint;375473 wrote:
Nobody reads anymore. Not even putting your post on top of a picture of the pope works with this crowd.


Perry Winkle;375483 wrote:
Yes, the effectiveness of my pre-pope-picture text has also declined over the last several days.


So far, so good. We're riffing, having a good time. [COLOR="White"]. . . . . . .[/COLOR] But wait, what's this?

xoxoxoBruce;375499 wrote:
Yes, I read what he wrote, that's why I asked why the picture of the pope, asshole.


Huh? "asshole" ??? [COLOR="White"]. . . [/COLOR] I think there must be a misunderstanding.
Flint;375526 wrote:
Bruce, please re-boot your sarcasm detector.


xoxoxoBruce;375562 wrote:
Taking a quote from someone and superimposing it on someone else, is not sarcasm. It's nothing short of a blatant lie to further a fucked up, ongoing, agenda, that's getting really tedious. It's in the same league with Gannet.


Oh, I see. You called Perry Winkle an asshole because of something somebody else said. That makes you the asshole. Perry Winkle was being sarcastic, as indicated by the course of the conversation (before you barged in with your asshole comments). Get a sense of humor, asshole.
yesman065 • Aug 16, 2007 9:17 pm
All that followed by. . .
Perry Winkle;375543 wrote:
He's right. I really am being an asshole today.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 9:28 pm
Over in the IQ thread in Homebase I made a polite but critical post to/about RKZ, then I made a joke, and had to tediously explain myself at length and didn't really get anywhere.

In this thread I made a decent funny, took the piss out of RKZ (which what is apparently miffing xoB. my take on the whole "not reading" thing is explained in the other thread.), had a bit of witty back and forth with Flint, and then admitted to being an asshole.

Yes, I was being an asshole, if not caring if nobody else thinks the jokes you make are funny makes you an asshole. Whatever.

xoxoxoBruce;375562 wrote:
Taking a quote from someone and superimposing it on someone else, is not sarcasm.


The joke comes from the fact that RKZ often says the same exact thing I did about "not reading." Even when the statements are obviously about something read in a previous post.

xoxoxoBruce;375562 wrote:

It's nothing short of a blatant lie to further a fucked up, ongoing, agenda, that's getting really tedious.


Paraphrasing (modified direct quote) someone else is not lying. I never misrepresented where what I was saying came from. And I really have no idea what agenda you're talking about, unless it's my preoccupation with entertaining myself.

xoxoxoBruce;375562 wrote:
It's in the same league with Gannet.


Naw, I come up with most of my own bullshit.

Edit: The text before the quotes start is context. Not aimed at anyone.
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 9:35 pm
I have no idea what's going on.
lumberjim • Aug 16, 2007 9:50 pm
bruce is calling rzk an asshole, but grant thinks he means him. it's kind of funny. funny sad. like a drunken hobo in the rain.
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 9:52 pm
but....what about Flint?
yesman065 • Aug 16, 2007 9:54 pm
. . .and Perry Winkle???
theotherguy • Aug 16, 2007 9:56 pm
Flint bumped into Bruce and made him spill his drink. Now, he is just pissed at everyone.
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 9:56 pm
Grant= Perry Winkle




lol tog:P
yesman065 • Aug 16, 2007 9:57 pm
I was wondering about that - oh well - tx
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 10:03 pm
It came up in another thread. I can't recall which one.
Perry Winkle • Aug 16, 2007 10:19 pm
DanaC;375620 wrote:
It came up in another thread. I can't recall which one.


Your "yey football" thread, I think.
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 10:31 pm
ahhhh. yes probably.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 10:51 pm
Ahem.
fargon;375068 wrote:
I nominate myself, for being the most shameless pervert in the world.


DanaC;375072 wrote:
Really? Have I proffered you my address yet?
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 10:58 pm
*blinks*
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 11:01 pm
What? Don't rememeber that?
DanaC • Aug 16, 2007 11:03 pm
Yup. Sure do.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 16, 2007 11:09 pm
Me too.... probably jealousy of Fargon.
Aliantha • Aug 16, 2007 11:35 pm
yesman065;375579 wrote:
Ali, Thats just wrong - really wrong.


Yeah I know. It was a joke. ;)

A pun on all the catholic priests who've been caught out having sex with people they shouldn't be having sex with (according to their religion).

BTW, I am catholic. I'm also going to hell because I'm a catholic. I don't think I've got much to lose anymore. :)
DanaC • Aug 17, 2007 5:42 am
Practising or lapsed ali?


What's the standing of the Catholic Church in Australia? I mean, are they a large part of the Christian population?
yesman065 • Aug 17, 2007 8:30 am
Aliantha;375655 wrote:
BTW, I am catholic. I'm also going to hell because I'm a catholic. I don't think I've got much to lose anymore. :)


Well at least I'll have some company! :P
rkzenrage • Aug 17, 2007 1:49 pm
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Taking a quote from someone and superimposing it on someone else, is not sarcasm. It's nothing short of a blatant lie to further a fucked up, ongoing, agenda, that's getting really tedious. It's in the same league with Gannet.

It is not meant as sarcasm, it is meant to show that the things he says about homosexuality is clearly projection.
Comparing me to Gannet supposed to be an insult?
It is not, it is not accurate.
smurfalicious • Aug 17, 2007 1:55 pm
Jesus was gay. I have photographic evidence.

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Cicero • Aug 17, 2007 2:00 pm
Holy shit!!!:D
I can't believe you just did that......Awesome.
TheMercenary • Aug 17, 2007 2:01 pm
Perry Winkle;375596 wrote:
Yes, I was being an asshole


Glad I have never been accused of that...
yesman065 • Aug 17, 2007 4:27 pm
LOL.....
fargon • Aug 17, 2007 4:30 pm
The most insanely Homophobes, I knew in my younger days, are now the happiest faggots I know. Bless their hearts.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 17, 2007 4:40 pm
rkzenrage;375870 wrote:
It is not meant as sarcasm, it is meant to show that the things he says about homosexuality is clearly projection.

Projection of what? Just because some college kids, with their dick wired, got of on queer porn, you're claiming the pope speaking out against it must be a repressed queer? And don't even have the balls to say it's your opinion, just overlay someone else's words on his picture like they naturally go together.

Comparing me to Gannet supposed to be an insult?
It is not, it is not accurate.
It's entirely accurate, just like Gannet. Preaching that you know what's best for everyone and they should do what you tell them. Railing against the misguided souls that don't follow your lead. Hammering incessantly on all that disagree.... just like Gannet.
rkzenrage • Aug 17, 2007 5:04 pm
That is a hilarious interpretation! Thanks for that!
DanaC • Aug 17, 2007 5:50 pm
And don't even have the balls to say it's your opinion, just overlay someone else's words on his picture like they naturally go together.


Just seemed kind of funny and pertinent to me Bruce.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 17, 2007 6:04 pm
It sure is, but he's a graffiti punk with the spray cans hidden in the backpack saying, who me?
rkzenrage • Aug 17, 2007 6:16 pm
For someone who cannot read specifics for yourself and always need them pointed out to you, clearly you would see it that way.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 17, 2007 6:28 pm
What specifics can't I read for myself?
DanaC • Aug 17, 2007 6:31 pm
*Nods once to self and backs slowly out of the thread*
piercehawkeye45 • Aug 17, 2007 8:32 pm
I really doubt every extreme homophobe is a closeted gay. I'm assuming this is the realism of the situation (numbers don't mean anything):

We have 100 extreme homophobes that are 15 years old.
10 years later, 30 of them came out of the closet.

We have 100 homosexuals that are of age 30.
In high school, 50 of them were extreme homophobes.

Just because a strangely high proportion of gays were very homophobic in high school does not mean that every extreme homophobes are closeted homosexuals.
Aliantha • Aug 17, 2007 8:36 pm
DanaC;375733 wrote:
Practising or lapsed ali?


What's the standing of the Catholic Church in Australia? I mean, are they a large part of the Christian population?


Very lapsed.

I've had sex before marriage.

I've had children out of wedlock.

I've had a couple of 'gay' encounters.

I masturbate.

I've lived the life of a lush.

Yep, I'm going to hell for sure...even if you only count the sins listed above.


Catholicism is losing ground here in Oz just as it seems to be pretty much everywhere. The whole thing is just so full of hypocrisy.

People are tending to go for the more 'relaxed' religions such as C of E and all those off shoots, although I have to say, I don't know one single person who goes to church regularly. Religion isn't a big part of life here. It's definitely something that drives the population as it seems to in a lot of ways in other countries.
DanaC • Aug 17, 2007 8:50 pm
Do you actually believe in Hell?
Aliantha • Aug 17, 2007 9:06 pm
I think I live in hell.
DanaC • Aug 17, 2007 9:11 pm
ok....
Aliantha • Aug 17, 2007 9:14 pm
I was joking. ;)

I don't believe in hell at all. I think it's a figment of some idiots imagination and the myth has been perpetuated by ineffectual hypocritical church goers in order to futher their own adjenda and as a tool to control children they should never have had.
DanaC • Aug 17, 2007 9:15 pm
Ah. Okay. :P