Soft or Hard?

monster • Jul 31, 2007 12:31 pm
We're heading off on our road trip on Saturday and need to use a roof-top-carrier thingy for the first time (darned children growing and demanding legroom.....)

Friends have lend us a canvas strap-on (:eek:), but there are hard boxes on sale at Sears this week, and we're bound to need one again in the future.

Does anybody have any experience of using these? Which would you recommend? Seems like the hard box may be easier to drive with (less resistance) and easier to attach, but will take up so much storage space and has no flexibility in it's dimensions.

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All opinions appreciated, exspecially those packed with double entendres or creative ideas for child storage/size reduction :D
glatt • Jul 31, 2007 12:44 pm
Hard boxes look more stylish. Might be better for fuel economy too.
Flint • Jul 31, 2007 12:45 pm
Hard storage cases are preferrable in so many ways: they protect your stuff, they provide a framework for packing loose, irregularly-sized objects (you don't want a container to have "flexibility in it's dimensions"!) etc.

I have used a hard storage case on top of a van, for a family vacation, and it worked great. I've also toted stuff around every day for years, as a drummer, a computer guy, and when I used to work in the construction field; and hard cases are what you will be wanting if you use this storage much. Floppy storage bags are so frustrating and unreliable, even dangerous. Establish a consistent storage area that you can count on.
yesman065 • Jul 31, 2007 1:11 pm
Flint nailed it - and the security isssue too - My bro in law had a soft one "disappear" while they were at a rest stop - NOT cool. I have a hard one - works great keeps stuff dry and its more aerodynamic than the soft ones. Yes the storage is a drag, mine is in the cellar (hahaha) attached to the rafters & out of the way.
:2cents:
Flint • Jul 31, 2007 1:13 pm
Yes the storage is a drag, mine is in the cellar (hahaha) attached to the rafters & out of the way.
You could also do bicycle hooks to the ceiling of the garage, etc.
yesman065 • Jul 31, 2007 1:14 pm
Flint;370080 wrote:
You could also do bicycle hooks to the ceiling of the garage, etc.


Good point - not for me though - I don't have a garage. :mad:
wolf • Jul 31, 2007 1:43 pm
Use it as a coffee table when you're not travelling.
rkzenrage • Jul 31, 2007 2:26 pm
I find it very strange that people care how it looks.
I would choose hard.
glatt • Jul 31, 2007 2:44 pm
rkzenrage;370118 wrote:
I find it very strange that people care how it looks.


You've never bought anything based in part on looks?
rkzenrage • Jul 31, 2007 2:46 pm
If all things were the same and that was the last aspect in consideration or the main function of the object.
glatt • Jul 31, 2007 2:55 pm
So you would care how it looks. OK.
rkzenrage • Jul 31, 2007 3:13 pm
Is that what you got out of that? LOL!
In NO way would I make my decision on which one to get based on looks.
Weird Harold • Jul 31, 2007 3:45 pm
I usually buy based on looks, as long as it will work good too, but this is a luggage carrier. It's going to nerd up your vehicle, no mater which one you choose. Just accept the fact that you are now Clark Griswold, and don't worry about looks.
monster • Jul 31, 2007 7:45 pm
Weird Harold;370143 wrote:
It's going to nerd up your vehicle, no mater which one you choose. Just accept the fact that you are now Clark Griswold, and don't worry about looks.



I drive a bright red slightly battered 6yo Windstar -you can't make them look any more nerdy :lol: (no I don't care what it looks like -function and price is all).

With the "flexibility of dimensions" I was thinking along the lines of being able to absolutely stuff it at one side -the flexibility allowing me to squeeze things in that might not have made it into a rigid box, but I hadn't considered the security angle at all, really -I usally chain things on anyway, but.....

All good points, thanks
rkzenrage • Jul 31, 2007 7:53 pm
function and price is all
jinx • Jul 31, 2007 7:56 pm
Do you have sport bars already?
monster • Jul 31, 2007 8:00 pm
jinx;370268 wrote:
Do you have sport bars already?
We have bars that go across at the front and the back. We also have an assortment of bike racks and the like that we use when we need more.... why?
jinx • Jul 31, 2007 8:25 pm
The factory cross bars are generally kinda flimsy - and the picture of the carrier you attached looks like it is shown with sport bars. Depending on how much wind gets up under that thing and how it attaches, the sport bars may be required... so you may wanna figure that into your costs.
DucksNuts • Jul 31, 2007 8:35 pm
Hard's soooo much easier to work with.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 31, 2007 9:55 pm
Road Trip, woot!!
monster • Aug 1, 2007 2:48 pm
xoxoxoBruce;370308 wrote:
Road Trip, woot!!


You just don't know how close to the truth that is :lol:

thanks for the heads up, jinx
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 8:39 pm
Not many people over here use roof top storage on their cars.

How much stuff do you need to take on a road trip? Doesn't it all fit in the boot?
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 1, 2007 8:49 pm
Most of it.
monster • Aug 1, 2007 8:54 pm
Aliantha;370566 wrote:
Not many people over here use roof top storage on their cars.

How much stuff do you need to take on a road trip? Doesn't it all fit in the boot?


Lots, we like to camp and we don't like to do laundry or shop, so we take as much as we can damn well fit in. :lol:

I wish you'd stop spying on me, though, Bruce (and who cleaned my car?)
DucksNuts • Aug 1, 2007 8:56 pm
BS Ali ;) there are hundreds of those things traveling up and down the highways.
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:13 pm
Maybe in Victoria where it rains. Peeps around my parts seem to prefer trailers.
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:14 pm
monster;370572 wrote:
Lots, we like to camp and we don't like to do laundry or shop, so we take as much as we can damn well fit in. :lol:



So you don't do 'roughing it' type camping? ;) What do you need clean clothes for anyway?
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:18 pm
Aliantha;370585 wrote:
So you don't do 'roughing it' type camping? ;) What do you need clean clothes for anyway?



Not on long road trips. We like a 5-person tent for us, a separate one for the children and airbeds :D


Don't necessarily need clean clothes, but prefer not to have to chip them off the children which is what happens after more than 2 days max. (We're going for 3 weeks)
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:20 pm
HOLY SHIT! No wonder you need extra storage space.
yesman065 • Aug 1, 2007 9:20 pm
jinx;370278 wrote:
The factory cross bars are generally kinda flimsy - and the picture of the carrier you attached looks like it is shown with sport bars. Depending on how much wind gets up under that thing and how it attaches, the sport bars may be required... so you may wanna figure that into your costs.


FWIW, The one I have doesn't attach to sport bars. It attaches with four clips to the groove above each of the side windows.
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:20 pm
Aliantha;370582 wrote:
Maybe in Victoria where it rains. Peeps around my parts seem to prefer trailers.


Trailers hold even more! I can't be doing with towing, though.
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:27 pm
Yeah they do hold heaps. I dunno. It just seems weird to be taking so much stuff though. We just have two small dome tents when we go camping. We have our cooking bag with utensils and plates etc. We have our skin care bag with insect repellent and sunscreen etc. We have our first aid kit and a small bag each, napsack size for our clothes and just wash them daily. Other than that, there's a bit of bedding and that's it besides whatever food we take. All that fits in the boot of our car or if we're going in the boat, it fits in the boat which we tow.
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:29 pm
Oh, and a gass stove with two burners and sometimes, depending on where we go, we might take the webber to bake bread/damper in (because in most places you're not allowed to have an open fire).
yesman065 • Aug 1, 2007 9:32 pm
Mine is a thule, and l got it for about $120 bucks a few years ago I got it at Pep boys - if memory serves.
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:34 pm
Aliantha;370593 wrote:
Yeah they do hold heaps. I dunno. It just seems weird to be taking so much stuff though. We just have two small dome tents when we go camping. We have our cooking bag with utensils and plates etc. We have our skin care bag with insect repellent and sunscreen etc. We have our first aid kit and a small bag, napsack size for our clothes and just wash them daily. Other than that, there's a bit of bedding and that's it besides whatever food we take. All that fits in the boot of our car or if we're going in the boat, it fits in the boat which we tow.



We used to camp like that.... then we Americanized ;) Why sleep on the floor if you can fit an airbed in? Sex is more fun on an airbed too :lol:
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:34 pm
yesman065;370597 wrote:
Mine is a thule, and l got it for about $120 bucks a few years ago I got it at Pep boys - if memory serves.



Is it good? worth it?
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:35 pm
I have to add though, if we go somewhere that there's no fresh water, we do need more storage space, but we invariably have the boat then so it fits in there.
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:36 pm
monster;370598 wrote:
Sex is more fun on an airbed too :lol:


Sex is more fun outdoors when the kids have gone to sleep (which is usually fairly early when we go camping). ;)
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:38 pm
Aliantha;370601 wrote:
Sex is more fun outdoors when the kids have gone to sleep (which is usually fairly early when we go camping). ;)



Way too much Deet required
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:38 pm
(and still more fun on an airbed -particularly on a lake)
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:38 pm
What's Deet?
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:39 pm
A blanket on the beach is nice. Afterwards you can go for a nice refreshing swim.

Does wonders for the constitution.
DucksNuts • Aug 1, 2007 9:41 pm
Can we stop talking about sex now....please?
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:42 pm
Aliantha;370606 wrote:
What's Deet?



Bug Spray. Nasty chemical. not good for children or women of childbearing age or anyone for that matter. But about the only thing that works round here.

Hoping not to need it in the desert, though, so will keep the suggestions in mind......
monster • Aug 1, 2007 9:43 pm
Sorry ducks. So back to the hard one. Is penetration an issue? Rain, that is?
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 9:43 pm
Stop sooking Ducksy. lol Poor baby. Why don't you give yourself a little touch up if you're getting antsy?
DucksNuts • Aug 1, 2007 10:10 pm
Bite me, both of you
Aliantha • Aug 1, 2007 10:13 pm
move a bit closer
TheMercenary • Aug 1, 2007 11:46 pm
We have had both. Hard is better. But please do not believe that the hard style makes it waterproof. It will not. most say "water resistant". Put all your stuff in steel sack plastic bags. It will still get wet. Good luck.
yesman065 • Aug 2, 2007 12:27 am
monster;370599 wrote:
Is it good? worth it?

I think it was well worth the $120 or so it cost. My ex bro in law has a canvas one and it was worthless in any kind of precipitation.

monster;370614 wrote:
Is penetration an issue? Rain, that is?


I have driven 10 hours from PA to NC 3 times with mine - once in a downpour - nothing got wet, in part because we, as merc said, put stuff in plastic bags. We also put the stuff that mattered the least in there - Like my clothes and the "extras."
monster • Aug 2, 2007 11:58 am
Thanks.
yesman065 • Aug 2, 2007 10:41 pm
if you were closer you could have borrowed mine
monster • Aug 2, 2007 10:48 pm
Well we think we've decided to buy the hard one. We checked out the factory roofbars issue and it seems like we should be OK.

Thanks for the offer yesman -probably for the best we're too far away -we're utter slobs... :lol:
Urbane Guerrilla • Aug 7, 2007 9:44 pm
DucksNuts;370633 wrote:
Bite me, both of you


Uh...

Nibbled to death...


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