Scotch recommendation

SteveDallas • Jun 27, 2007 10:42 pm
I was just wondering if any Scotch-ophiles, not to mention UK residents, have any thoughts.

When last Mrs. Dallas graced the British Isles with her presence, she very thoughtfully stopped at the duty free shop to get me a bottle of Scotch. She asked for suggestions of things that were not available in the US, not wanting to get something I can buy any time.

She ended up with a bottle of Balvenie 15 year, and was quite taken aback when I took one look at it and said "Wow, thanks, I love that stuff!"

When she returns at the end of July, she is determined to get something that's REALLY not available in the US. So she's soliciting suggestions in advance.

Any thoughts?
Uisge Beatha • Jun 27, 2007 10:56 pm
As one might well guess, I do appreciate a good whisky. I'm hardly an expert, however. While I can't give you a direct and definitive answer, I can provide the url for a site that just may help.

The Whisky Guide

The 'Selected Whisky' link on the left of the page has shown me some brands that I have not seen in stores here. Perhaps you will have some luck there. Good hunting!
wolf • Jun 28, 2007 1:47 am
Tell her to get anything with a price tag over $100 US. That should do nicely.
bluecuracao • Jun 28, 2007 2:05 am
I'm not a Scotch-ophile by any stretch; I prefer Bourbon if I'm going to drink whisky/whiskey. That being said, I have enjoyed tasting some fine single malt Scotch whiskies, the older the better.

But being a Bourbon fan, I've especially liked Johnnie Walker Swing, a sweet-smokey blend with just a touch of that Scotch bitterness. Not available in the states, as far as I know. Cool bottle, too; meant to sit on a boat bar.
Urbane Guerrilla • Jun 29, 2007 4:03 am
Well, I was going to recommend the Balvenie too -- their Doublewood is perhaps the most complex Speyside malt I've ever tasted. It's like a wine -- a red, a cabernet.

You might have her search out the sort of bottlings that have hand-signed, hand-numbered labels. I once encountered a Glenrothes (another Speyside malt), serial-numbered, and old enough for a driver's license. Nice and smooth, and it presented as a Speyside usually does, with a sweetness and a grainy quality.

Is it just me or are there more and more Islay malts showing up? Seems like it's boom times for Scotches.
Griff • Jun 29, 2007 7:16 am
Urbane Guerrilla;359953 wrote:
Seems like it's boom times for Scotches.


My apologies, it appears I've been propping up the market lately.

Sorry Steve, I can't really help unless you can front me an airline ticket and a modest stipend.
limey • Jun 30, 2007 8:18 am
I can thoroughly recommend the local product. Don't know if it's regularly available in the States.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 30, 2007 3:29 pm
limey;360178 wrote:
I can thoroughly recommend the local product. Don't know if it's regularly available in the States.
Our Distillery, nestled below the high mountains in Lochranza bay, produces a delightful range of whiskies without the use of peat in our process or caramel for artificial colouring - thus ensuring our products are true to the character of the Island and as such are 'the true spirit of nature'.
No peat? I thought the peat is one of the prime reasons Scotch is Scotch?

Scotch reminds me of a certain crazy, red-headed, Sgt in the Marine Corps Reserve , that was built like a peat outhouse, and drank Scotch in milk.
SteveDallas • Jun 30, 2007 5:35 pm
What, no photos? :)
limey • Jun 30, 2007 7:45 pm
xoxoxoBruce;360242 wrote:
No peat? I thought the peat is one of the prime reasons Scotch is Scotch?

Scotch reminds me of a certain crazy, red-headed, Sgt in the Marine Corps Reserve , that was built like a peat outhouse, and drank Scotch in milk.


Maybe they mean "no peat in the process" i.e. artificially added. The water up there certainly runs through peat bogs, that's where they all are on Arran.
The island malts tend to be more peaty (that oily flavour): the highland ones less so.
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xoxoxoBruce • Jul 1, 2007 12:30 am
So the peat flavor comes from the water and the island water has a stronger flavor than the highlands?
Do they char the barrels with a peat fire?




No SD, no pictures. [SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]Ya pervert[/COLOR][/SIZE]
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 2, 2007 6:57 am
No, the smokiness comes from smoking the barley malt over a fire fueled by peat. The heat kills the germinated barley which in its turn holds it ready for fermentation.

Charred barrels are more for adsorbing unpleasant-tasting cogeners, leaving the resulting spirit smooth of taste -- bourbon whiskey style -- or is this techically Tennessee sour mash?

The barrels do have their effect. Aside from the oaken barrel both reacting gently with the spirit inside it and coloring the resulting liquor, which color may not be the tea-colored thing we expect in whiskeys but can sometimes come out a greeny-gold, the practice of reusing barrels that previously aged bourbon or sherry each give their savor to the finished whisky.

The Island malts (Islay and I think a few other tiny ones) get smoked over a peat that has a fairish inclusion of seaweed and is also productive of a very intense smoke, which smokes the barley malt to a greater degree than anywhere else. To put it mildly, Islay malts are emphatic. Sip 'em slow, or your wig will do two and a half flips before it lands again.
rkzenrage • Jul 2, 2007 1:45 pm
I like Scotch, but prefer Bourbon. Have had some good US and other Scotch. It has been a long time and I have no idea how to get my hands on it again (and I could not have afforded it to begin with). Also, sorry, I cannot remember the names.
But, it is not that different, IMO, than Irish.
"Any Glen will do".
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 3, 2007 1:56 am
*technically
rkzenrage • Jul 10, 2007 7:10 pm
Huh?
Uisge Beatha • Jul 10, 2007 7:16 pm
UG was correcting his spelling from post #12:

"Charred barrels are more for adsorbing unpleasant-tasting cogeners, leaving the resulting spirit smooth of taste -- bourbon whiskey style -- or is this techically Tennessee sour mash?"
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 11, 2007 2:09 am
While the limited time allowed for editing a post does keep posters honest as to what they actually posted, it sure makes it hard on somebody who notices a spelling error after that time. I'm careful on spelling. Some who do not need naming, and who spell poorly but who would love to give me a hard time about a misspelling, would need, I think, preemption.
Griff • Jul 11, 2007 7:25 am
You and your premptions. :eyeroll:
;)
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 12, 2007 1:10 am
Ya know what this forum needs? -- a good five-cent wetwilly smiley! :D
BigV • Jul 16, 2007 2:36 pm
Griff;362674 wrote:
You and your premptions. :eyeroll:
;)


Comedy gold!
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 17, 2007 5:11 am
I'm funnier than some of the people I don't like around here. :D

Come to think of it, does the poster I'm not going to name eat or drink? Does he enjoy either?
Griff • Jul 17, 2007 6:53 am
gah! Mor smelling mousesteaks thogh.
SteveDallas • Jul 17, 2007 10:03 am
There must be some kind of threadjacking trophy we can hand out.
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 18, 2007 3:22 am
Griff;364827 wrote:
gah! Mor smelling mousesteaks thogh.


Mmm... with a phrase like that you could call up Cthulhu. Ia...shore...yubetcha...