Banning Abortion and Guns in Free Palestine

*backs slowly out of saloon*

Griff;338112 wrote:

*backs slowly out of saloon*

As an athiest, born and bred outside of the middle east, I have the innate right to shoot pregnant women and aborted fetuses with any weapon I choose, including a fully automatic tactical nukuler device launcher. I hope you conservatives aren't too stupid or foolish to understand what I've plainly and factually sed tu yu, you cunts.

Did I cover everything?

I am pro-choice but usually anti-abortion and I am pro-one-state solution and an anti-Zionist but not anti-semetic.

Lets go, change me if you can.

piercehawkeye45;338163 wrote:

I am pro-choice but usually anti-abortion and I am pro-one-state solution and an anti-Zionist but not anti-semetic.

Lets go, change me if you can.

That.

what, without even a drink at the ol' watering hole?

:)

Spexxvet;338117 wrote:

As an athiest, born and bred outside of the middle east, I have the innate right to shoot pregnant women and aborted fetuses with any weapon I choose, including a fully automatic tactical nukuler device launcher. I hope you conservatives aren't too stupid or foolish to understand what I've plainly and factually sed tu yu, you cunts.

Did I cover everything?

You missed the obligatory mention of Hitler, but other than that, yeah, I think you covered it, you liberal weenie.

wolf;338293 wrote:

You missed the obligatory mention of Hitler, but other than that, yeah, I think you covered it, you liberal weenie.

The irony of Nazi Germany: people who supported Hitler thought themselves just as moral as Americans today who promote fear of mythical enemies, need for more weapons, let others be massacred (ie in schools) and do nothing, justify their actions with reasoning such as the world does not understand us and we must save them, disparage the intelligent (centrists), justify everything using a political agenda (see posts from TheMercenary for similar propaganda examples), suspend constitutional provisions that would only interfere with their political agenda, drive science from the country, subvert the judiciary, and even justify acts such as torture, secret imprisonment, and hatred of 'inferiors'.

All this was ongoing in 1930s Germany as it is today. No one in Germany considered it a threat. This deja vue attitude of murder in VA, contempt for the American soldier justified by nationalism, a righteous demand that Peter Jennings wear an American flag on his jacket and obtain American citizenship, and acceptance attitude towards torture; these were the same early 1930s attitudes in Germany by a people who also considered themselves so moral and good. By a people who did not even question when their leader "Pearl Harbored" other sovereign nations - even praised him for doing so.

What is the largest immigrant composition of America? Germans. And yet somehow Nazism cannot happen in America. "Where are your papers?" Same law to be imposed on all Americans complete with a required redesign of state driver's licenses so that everyone will have and must carry "papers".

Parallels do exist between today's extremist Republicans and early 1930s Nazis. Complete with both people insisting they are the righteous and superior ones.

Exactly... refuse to carry a national ID card. Stay armed, learn to shoot (especially at distance and from cover) and buy reloading supplies.

tw;338323 wrote:

snip~ let others be massacred (ie in schools) and do nothing, ~snip~ This deja vue attitude of murder in VA,

You mentioned this several times, IIRC you said America's reaction was a yawn.

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?

xoxoxoBruce;338366 wrote:

You mentioned this several times, IIRC you said America's reaction was a yawn.

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Why, Bruce, do you want step two without first doing step one? Well MBAs play that game routinely.

Offering solutions is rather useless here considering the many who assume if everyone had a gun, then crime would disappear – in direct contradiction to fact and history. Considering the many who assume the most violent western nation is not at all violent. Kill off kids in school, do some silly mourning ritual, deny a problem exists, and then do nothing. What is the count? Same four act play repeated 44 times now in America? A situation worthy of ridicule because the problem starts with denial. Denial of reality. Denial that bereavement is only an act.

Identifying a solution is far from relevant since and apparently xoxoxoBruce feels schoolyard massacres are situation normal (also called SNAFU).

tw;338394 wrote:

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Why, Bruce, do you want step two without first doing step one? Well MBAs play that game routinely.

I didn't say I wanted to do anything of the sort and you know it. I asked what you expected the general population to do about it.

Offering solutions is rather useless here considering the many who assume if everyone had a gun, then crime would disappear – in direct contradiction to fact and history.

You lying motherfucker, I'll give you $1,000 to back that statement up. Nobody ever said that on this board.

Considering the many who assume the most violent western nation is not at all violent. Kill off kids in school, do some silly mourning ritual, deny a problem exists, and then do nothing. What is the count? Same four act play repeated 44 times now in America? A situation worthy of ridicule because the problem starts with denial. Denial of reality. Denial that bereavement is only an act.

Why don't you just come out and admit you don't have an answer to my question, instead of blaming everyone else for preventing you from solving all the problems of the world?

Identifying a solution is far from relevant since and apparently xoxoxoBruce feels schoolyard massacres are situation normal (also called SNAFU).

I'll give you another $1,000 to back that accusation up too, liar.
So, the bottom line is you don't have an answer to;

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?

xoxoxoBruce;338695 wrote:

You lying motherfucker,

Bruce - take a pill. You have posted ten times consecutively - most posts containing nothing useful. Your are also posting only to argue; providing no new information; providing no new perspective.

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Try limiting your post to one reality at a time. Britian had no problem. Explain why that reality is not so.

Only children restort to profanity. Your profane accusations are typical of adult children and are not relevant in a logical reply. Please tell us how the British did not do step one - then did not do step two. Somehow you completely ignored that most relevant point.

Do you only want to argue. Do you advocate more schoolyard massacres? Or did you run out of coffee?

tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?

So... can you answer it?

jinx;338785 wrote:

tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one


So... can you answer it?

Give him some time to check the tin foil hat of his cat. The Cat in the Hat will tell him all. And than, and only than will he be able to answer you.... stay tuned.

What is with the tin foil? it's the 21st century and aluminum foil works better.

duck_duck;338801 wrote:

What is with the tin foil? it's the 21st century and aluminum foil works better.

Good point. Dating myself. Aluminum foil is a great conductor.

How did the whole tin foil thing get started? Was it from the mel gibson movie signs?

duck_duck;338810 wrote:

How did the whole tin foil thing get started? Was it from the mel gibson movie signs?

I think so. Now it is a fun way to draw attention to conspiracy theorists. :D

tw;338768 wrote:

Bruce - take a pill. You have posted ten times consecutively - most posts containing nothing useful. Your are also posting only to argue; providing no new information; providing no new perspective.

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Try limiting your post to one reality at a time. Britian had no problem. Explain why that reality is not so.

Only children restort to profanity. Your profane accusations are typical of adult children and are not relevant in a logical reply. Please tell us how the British did not do step one - then did not do step two. Somehow you completely ignored that most relevant point.

Do you only want to argue. Do you advocate more schoolyard massacres? Or did you run out of coffee?

Answer the fucking question, liar.

TheMercenary;338813 wrote:

Now it is a fun way to draw attention to conspiracy theorists.

TheMercenary denies that numerous FBI investigations to avert 11 September attackers were suspended and stifled by the George Jr administration. One of those investigations in MN resulted in the lady FBI agent being featured on national press covers. Another quashing investigation resulted in America's #1 anti-terrorism investigator being driven from the FBI. He died as chief of security in the WTC collapse because he took a job where he expected the next terrorist attack to occur. That knowledge is why John O'Neill took the job AND was force out by the George Jr administration.

TheMercenary lives in a world where a political agenda (including pre-emption) justifies "Mission Accomplished" and his contempt for American soldiers. When TheMercenary cannot deny that his wacko extremists are intentionally subverting America, then he avoids the indefensible by looking totally foolish in aluminum foil.

TheMercenary approves of George Jr actions that created hundred of thousands of dead of Iraqis. TheMercenary does not dare deny it. So he posts silly pictures.

Deception in honor of Jack Abramoff, Skilling, Ralph Reed, and Alberto Gonzales is how TheMercenary must deflect anything that he could not otherwise deny. Previously listed were the many FBI investigations that could have averted 11 September. TheMercenary cannot deny this. Aluminum foil so that you will foget this reality.

Nice job wrecking a humor thread everyone.

Griff;338937 wrote:

Nice job wrecking a humor thread everyone.

I was thinking "here we go again..."

jinx;338785 wrote:

tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one ...

One solution was provided AND provided quite clearly. Why is this difficult? Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Where is that answer so difficult? This answer provided three times now.

What have we done in the US? We don't even acknowledge a problem exists. Show me a consensus that even defines a problem? All we have is deadlock as the many 'special interests' subvert and distort a problem. Total response. Even make assault weapons legal. Make sure hollow point bullets are available. That clearly solves problems because the Chinese may invade any day now.

So jinx, if what I have posted is not an answer, then you can tell me step one: the problem is clearly defined? You tell me. What is this obvious problem? Where does consensus says America is even the most violent western industrial nation?

If I did not answer the question, then you can tell me what the problem is? If I have not answered his question, then clearly step one exists. What is it? It does not exist. America has no interest - will not even discuss in government - step one.

In another thread, Urbane Guerrilla reposts a standard myth by posting half facts about Switzerland. How many times is that half fact exposed for what it is? Even in The Cellar, active denial of 'step one' is widespread.

This nation's real response to 32 dead in Virginia? We lowered American flags. That's it. Well we did that for the dead in Nam. But today, we don't even do that for the dead in "Mission Accomplished". Death has now become that routine. Step one is not possible because we don't even acknowledge a problem exists. You might. But we (including you) deny a problem exists. Some have now said violence is what makes Americans American.

Duck Duck demonstrated a serious problem. America is the most violent western industrial nation. None come close. Instead of acknowledging the problem, she is attacked quite aggressively for posting a fact. You tell me. Does that mean we have acknowledged a problem? Of course not.

Step one: acknowledge a problem. America does not even do that. Shooting of Amish kids in PA - yawn. So many angry demonstrations because these things only happen in America? Instead our actions are inaction – deny a problem even exists – to even attack Duck Duck as if naïve – including responses that said challenge "go back from where you came". Another classic response called denial. This same answer that xoxoxoBruce now has three times over. Situation normal (SNAFU).

Why is an answer posted days ago so difficult to comprehend? Maybe because denial of a problem is that deep and that widespread? Answer comes complete with examples of success. How many schoolyard massacres occurred in Britain after they did step one and step two? Zero.

If I did not answer the question, then you can tell me what the problem is? If I have not answered his question, then clearly step one exists. What is it? It does not exist. America has no interest - will not even discuss in government - step one.

read that out loud and tell me that you're not falling down drunk or clinically insane.

so are you saying that what the average citizen can do is..... to realize that there is a problem? And that the problem is that we have guns?


is that what you're tryng to force out of your quivering, undulating, and insanity fogged brain and cucumber stained fingers?

lumberjim;339045 wrote:

so are you saying that what the average citizen can do is..... to realize that there is a problem? And that the problem is that we have guns?

You tell me. Do we have a problem? You tell me? Demonstrate that step one - acknowledging the problem exists. You posted because you have an opinion. So tell me. Does a problem exist and what is it?

yes.....the problem is that people can't face the reality that we're still subject to the 'survival of the fittest' effect. It's something that we like to tell our selves that we've moved past as a society.....but we haven't.

lumberjim;339050 wrote:

yes.....the problem is that people can't face the reality that we're still subject to the 'survival of the fittest' effect. It's something that we like to tell our selves that we've moved past as a society.....but we haven't.

SoLimberjim completely ignored the question. The question was not about survival of the fittest. The question is whether America even has a problem - such as created schooyard massacres.

Lumberjim's evasive answer demonstrates my point exactly. First thing they did in Britain was to not do what Lumberjim has done. Americans will not even do step one. Columibine - yawn. Students are massacred in VA - one bullet every 3 seconds for nine minutes - and Lumberjim will not even acknowledge a problem exists let alone tell us what that problem is.

Someone be so violently armed as to fire a round every three seconds for nine minutes - and the outcry is how loud? Crickets.

Do we have a problem? You tell me?
Yes we have a problem , all folks want is to argue about EVERY THING , and call eatch other names like FUCKING CHILDREN !!!
GOD DAMN IT !!!!!
Speak to each other like adults !!!!!
What the FUCK is wrong with every body here lately ???
Is it the phase of the moon , sun spots , or have the aleins just directed their Bitch ray at us as they sit back and laugh at FUCKING Grown ups ( supposedly ) act like KIDS !!!!!

Spexxvet;338972 wrote:

I was thinking "here we go again..."

Silly me, I thought folks could laugh at themselves and move on. fuck it.

zippyt;339053 wrote:

Do we have a problem? You tell me?
Yes we have a problem , all folks want is to argue about EVERY THING , and call eatch other names like FUCKING CHILDREN !!!
GOD DAMN IT !!!!!
Speak to each other like adults !!!!!
What the FUCK is wrong with every body here lately ???

Welcome to the days of Nam. When the president is a crook, then the nation was just as polarized even over marijuana. Crime increased. Civility disappears as American cities even burned. Even on the USS America off the coast of Nam - a riot. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Our leaders have long been crooks as to even protect Enron and slave labor in Saipan. And it will become worse. Maybe not in the Cellar. But yes, in the nation.

The attacks on Duck Duck for simply noting a reality - no different than what happened to students returning home from a Kent State massacre. That is another lesson from Nam. Corrupt leaders create increased anti-social behavior (actions based in emotions rather than facts) years later.

Notice today how many now respond as Rush Limbaugh has been preaching for years. Notice how we are so quick to blame immigrants even for increased crime. Same trend occurred 30 years ago.

85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management.

If you google the phrase you can find t on different forums!

And google groups ,
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=85%25+of+all+problems+are+directly+traceable+to+top+management.&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Wtx&um=1&sa=X&oi=groups&ct=title

ah, fuck you, redneck.

tw, don't capitalize my name.

and I believe that you were the one that the question was posed to, and evaded answering it....Instead choosing to spin around in circles flinging poo and condescension in all directions.

I answered the question quite clearly. I don't think that the problem is what kind of weapons we have. If this kid had not had a gun..he would have had a bomb. or a bow and arrow.....or a virus or whatever....

you suck.

LUMBERJIM;339068 wrote:

ah, fuck you, redneck.

tw, don't capitalize my name.
...
you suck.

The question - does a problem exist - required a yes or no answer. The question - if a problem does exist, then what is it - also was ignored.

How does one identify those who know emotionally - not logically? Note the words: "fuck you" & "you suck". Even little things such as capital letters will set off some emotional people.

Again, the answer to xoxoxoBruce's question is demonstrated by lUMBERjIM. He avoids a 'yes or no' answer. And he avoids defining a problem. I guess no problem exists. Yawn. Let's start a pool - which school will next have a massacre?

Britain addressed and solved this problem. Step one - British acknowledged a problem exists. How many have answered this yes or no question: does a problem exist? Americans cannot even provide an answer to that simple 'yes or no' question after '32 dead in Vir-gin-ia' (it needs some music).

Denial. Step one to a solution cannot even happen in The Cellar. Instead he posts profanity - personal attacks on the messenger.

Clearly the Chinese are putting something in our food. Where did I put that aluminum foil? Where is the cat?

lUmBeRjIm … LumBERjim …. LUMBER JIM. Soon the nation will be in civil war. 85% of all prolems are directly traceable to top management - so we can shoot more school kids and blame others? No. Let's blame LUmbER-jIM. That way, we need not even answer that very first question - does a problem exist?

tw;339078 wrote:

The question - does a problem exist - required a yes or no answer. The question - if a problem does exist, then what is it - also was ignored.

Liar. The questions were;

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?

tom, you ignorant slut.

lumberjim;339085 wrote:

tom, you ignorant slut.

Please, call me jane.

Not until you answer the questions.

ah, fuck you, redneck.

Do you kiss your Mom with that mouth there sweet lips ????

yep! yours too! but that's ...different......