Right-Wing Assholes

Flint • Mar 29, 2007 9:57 am
Why do they always have to be so rude? It's not fair to others that may share their viewpoint, that they come off as such loudmouthed shit-for-brains. You know what I'm talking about. Either it's the same person making new accounts every time they wear out their welcome, or there is actually a whole population of these fucktards out there. Hey, make sure and use a sledgehammer to get your point across. That doesn't alienate anybody.
Griff • Mar 29, 2007 10:01 am
Dude, don't you live in Texas? ;)

Seriously though, usually when they're new they think nobody has ever heard their POV before. I used to pull the same nonsense with my libbytarian line of crap.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:09 am
What is right-wing? Righty-tighty, Lefty-loosey? Liberal, Conservative? Democrat, Republican? One-world-order, anti-establishment? Socialist, Communist? Religious-zealot, Atheist?
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 10:12 am
Griff;327816 wrote:
Dude, don't you live in Texas? ;)

Seriously though, usually when they're new they think nobody has ever heard their POV before. I used to pull the same nonsense with my libbytarian line of crap.
Yes, I live in Texas, and we are capable of having perfectly civil conversations here.

The thing is, being rude and abusive isn't a good way to get people to understand where you're coming from. I don't want to believe that people who disagree with me politically are not decent human beings, but it does bother me that the online right-wingers just seem to be such pricks. It makes their political stance appear to be a throwback to simpler, more hate-filled times. I don't think that's the case necessarily, but they aren't helping by acting the way they do.
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 10:14 am
TheMercenary;327821 wrote:
What is right-wing? Righty-tighty, Lefty-loosey? Liberal, Conservative? Democrat, Republican? One-world-order, anti-establishment? Socialist, Communist? Religious-zealot, Atheist?

Pick whatever word you like. I'm talking about you. You're an asshole.
Spexxvet • Mar 29, 2007 10:15 am
It seems like the conservative media "personalities" are all nasty, too.
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 10:17 am
Flint;327824 wrote:
Pick whatever word you like. I'm talking about you. You're an asshole.


Was it the violins that pushed you over the edge? That was a bit extreme.
Griff • Mar 29, 2007 10:18 am
Flint;327822 wrote:
Yes, I live in Texas, and we are capable of having perfectly civil conversations here.

The thing is, being rude and abusive isn't a good way to get people to understand where you're coming from. I don't want to believe that people who disagree with me politically are not decent human beings, but it does bother me that the online right-wingers just seem to be such pricks. It makes their political stance appear to be a throwback to simpler, more hate-filled times. I don't think that's the case necessarily, but they aren't helping by acting the way they do.


I guess it comes from at least couple directions. If you only deal with righties on a daily basis and then tune into most national media you feel like you are not being represented. Others could be righties surrounded by lefties and they need to blow off steam.
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 10:27 am
Conservative pundits (including some here) do come across to me as hostile on many occasions. Some liberal pundits (including some here) come across to me as preachy, whiny and/or unreasonable. Now I fully admit that I may be biased...I am a liberal with some conservative leanings (primarily on business issues and gun control). But I think many humans have an overwhelming desire to "win"...for many years, conservatives here have played the fear card. Liberals play the "think of the children!" card.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic or naive, but I'd like for our society to get to a point where you lay it all out without being a candyass and let the people decide. And when they decide, be gracious...whether you're the winner or the loser.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:28 am
Flint;327824 wrote:
Pick whatever word you like. I'm talking about you. You're an asshole.


Awwwwwwwww.... and you wonder how and why people respond to people like you, and then in your mind sound like they are assholes. Look in the mirror dude.;)
Sundae • Mar 29, 2007 10:30 am
Flint I thought you were very rude when you first came here (I've since accepted a lot of that as just being your style)

And there are a lot of views here that would count as right wing in Britain. It's a matter of perspective.
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 10:30 am
TheMercenary;327838 wrote:
... you wonder how and why people respond to people like you, and then in your mind sound like they are assholes ...


No, you've completely missed the point. Or, you just want to spin it as somehow "my fault" ... that never gets old.
Griff • Mar 29, 2007 10:31 am
sycamore;327837 wrote:
Conservative pundits (including some here) do come across to me as hostile on many occasions. Some liberal pundits (including some here) come across to me as preachy, whiny and/or unreasonable.


Well put. Folks come off as caricatures of themselves based on a few extreme positions. Its boring talking about commonly held beliefs.
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 10:32 am
glatt;327829 wrote:
Was it the violins that pushed you over the edge? That was a bit extreme.


No. I was wrong. It was the reach around comment. Right? I'm slowly working my way through the threads.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:33 am
sycamore;327837 wrote:
Conservative pundits (including some here) do come across to me as hostile on many occasions. Some liberal pundits (including some here) come across to me as preachy, whiny and/or unreasonable. Now I fully admit that I may be biased...I am a liberal with some conservative leanings (primarily on business issues and gun control). But I think many humans have an overwhelming desire to "win"...for many years, conservatives here have played the fear card. Liberals play the "think of the children!" card.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic or naive, but I'd like for our society to get to a point where you lay it all out without being a candyass and let the people decide. And when they decide, be gracious...whether you're the winner or the loser.


That about sums it up for me. I don't consider myself as a conservative or a liberal. Guess because it would be difficult to explain to the Chruch Lady that I don't go to church and support a womans right to choose, but the libs can't wrap thier head around my gun collection and desire to support covert actions. No wonder people can't put a round peg in a square hole. If someone disagrees with you and will not see it your way they are "assholes" or "hostile". What a load of crap. They just have a different opinion and are supporting it in the the best way they see fit. I have never gone off half cocked at anyone who did not do so to me first. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 10:34 am
Sundae Girl;327840 wrote:
Flint I thought you were very rude when you first came here (I've since accepted a lot of that as just being your style)

And there are a lot of views here that would count as right wing in Britain. It's a matter of perspective.
Yes, my style is that I'm totally hilarious (thanks for noticing). But I'm not talking about viewpoints, or style. I'm talking about manners.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:35 am
glatt;327844 wrote:
No. I was wrong. It was the reach around comment. Right? I'm slowly working may way through the threads.


That comment was in reply to her comments to me calling me a moron on like my third post. Stay out of arguments that don't concern you and you will have little to worry about.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:36 am
Flint;327846 wrote:
Yes, my style is that I'm totally hilarious (thanks for noticing). But I'm not talking about viewpoints, or style. I'm talking about manners.

So you think that calling people morons because you don't agree with something someone says on some of their first posts is in keeping with good manners?
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 10:37 am
TheMercenary;327845 wrote:
... If someone disagrees with you and will not see it your way they are "assholes" or "hostile". What a load of crap. ...
No, if somebody acts like an asshole, or is hostile, then that's how they will be seen. And it detracts from their viewpoint, rather than promoting it.
Griff • Mar 29, 2007 10:40 am
TheMercenary;327847 wrote:
Stay out of arguments that don't concern you and you will have little to worry about.

This fits under Flints manners heading. If you have read glatts stuff here you'd know that he always plays nice. You can pop off at me, because I occasionally get my hands dirty, but this type of thing is uncalled for.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:40 am
Flint;327849 wrote:
No, if somebody acts like an asshole, or is hostile, then that's how they will be seen. And it detracts from their viewpoint, rather than promoting it.


So as SG pointed out you were viewed in the same way when you started here, now all of a sudden you are setting some type of morality bar. I am respectful to those who do the same. Make up crap about me, who I am, what I think from some minor postings on a public forum is out of line.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:42 am
Griff;327852 wrote:
This fits under Flints manners heading. If you have read glatts stuff here you'd know that he always plays nice. You can pop off at me, because I occasionally get my hands dirty, but this type of thing is uncalled for.


Like I said, if it is not directed at you stay out of it. If you make a nasty comment expect one back. Pretty simple. If I made a nasty comment to Flint, Glatt, or you before some other remark by one of you I appologize. If not.... well, TS.
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 10:43 am
Griff;327852 wrote:
This fits under Flints manners heading. If you have read glatts stuff here you'd know that he always plays nice. You can pop off at me, because I occasionally get my hands dirty, but this type of thing is uncalled for.


I'll pop off at ya...you utopian commie do-gooder! Go fuck yourself! And bring me a beer when you're done...I'm too lazy to get up and get one. But make sure you wash your hands first.
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 10:46 am
I wonder if Mercenary is related to Radar.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:47 am
sycamore;327857 wrote:
I wonder if Mercenary is related to Radar.


Who is Radar? Like on Mash? :D hardly... must be someone else.
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 10:49 am
He's the Libertarian Party delegate to the Cellar.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:53 am
sycamore;327860 wrote:
He's the Libertarian Party delegate to the Cellar.


What the hell is Occupation: Law School Representative ?
DanaC • Mar 29, 2007 11:15 am
Flint.....much as I'd like to agree with ya on this one (I doubt anybody here is in doubt as to my views on conservatives *grins*), I think you are being a little unfair.
Spexxvet • Mar 29, 2007 11:30 am
sycamore;327857 wrote:
I wonder if Mercenary is related to Radar.


I was thinking Urbane Guerilla.
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 11:31 am
TheMercenary;327854 wrote:
Like I said, if it is not directed at you stay out of it. If you make a nasty comment expect one back. Pretty simple.


How is pointing out comments you have made equal to making a nasty comment?

I have noticed that when logic and reason don't support your arguments you switch tactics and take a more aggressive approach to keep your side of the debate going. You're basically compensating for a weak position. Then if logic and reason are on your side again you switch back to them. The violins are a perfect example. Happy Monkey was slaughtering you and you posted like half a dozen violin smileys to make up for your weak point.

Since the topic of this thread is about you being an asshole, I can understand a certain amount of defensiveness on your part, and I'm not going to hold your "butt out" comments against you. But this is a public forum. Anybody can respond to anything you say here if they want to. If you want a private conversation with someone, use the private messaging feature of the site.
Spexxvet • Mar 29, 2007 11:32 am
TheMercenary;327845 wrote:
... No wonder people can't put a round peg in a square hole. ...



You're a "round peg", alright. [SIZE="3"]NSFW[/SIZE]
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 11:39 am
Great...more fodder for Sheldon!
Sheldonrs • Mar 29, 2007 11:49 am
sycamore;327901 wrote:
Great...more fodder for Sheldon!


Fodder? I prefer to call them Daddy. ;-)
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 11:51 am
glatt;327894 wrote:
But this is a public forum. Anybody can respond to anything you say here if they want to. If you want a private conversation with someone, use the private messaging feature of the site.

So then why the thread at all? If anyone can say whatever they want then why the big whine??? really.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 11:53 am
glatt;327894 wrote:
Happy Monkey was slaughtering you and you posted like half a dozen violin smileys to make up for your weak point.


Slaughtering because you support his point? :lol: hardly.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 11:54 am
Spexxvet;327896 wrote:
You're a "round peg", alright. [SIZE="3"]NSFW[/SIZE]

Come on now, don't be a cunt. Remember we are suppose to all hold hands and sing praises to the Lord...;)
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 11:55 am
TheMercenary;327924 wrote:
So then why the thread at all? If anyone can say whatever they want then why the big whine??? really.


You would have to ask Flint that. But I can say that the Cellar is a community unlike any other place I've seen on the internet. We all hold it dear, and I think this is Flint's way of policing the place. It's ironic, as others pointed out, because we all had to school Flint when he first arrived here. But he's come around (maybe we even met him half way.)
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 11:59 am
glatt;327931 wrote:
You would have to ask Flint that. But I can say that the Cellar is a community unlike any other place I've seen on the internet. We all hold it dear, and I think this is Flint's way of policing the place. It's ironic, as others pointed out, because we all had to school Flint when he first arrived here. But he's come around (maybe we even met him half way.)
Great so meet me half way. So Flint was a dick when he got here and now he is not? But he wants to spank my Happy Monkey? So he is your policeman?
:rolleyes:
DanaC • Mar 29, 2007 12:04 pm
Does he have a Policeman's truncheon.......?
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 12:06 pm
DanaC;327937 wrote:
Does he have a Policeman's truncheon.......?

Maybe he could barrow Spexxvet's round peg? ;)
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 12:26 pm
TheMercenary;327934 wrote:
Great so meet me half way.

I already did.

TheMercenary;327934 wrote:
So Flint was a dick when he got here and now he is not?
He was never a dick, just a bit full of himself.

TheMercenary;327934 wrote:
But he wants to spank my Happy Monkey?
I'm not touching that. I won't touch the monkey.

TheMercenary;327934 wrote:
So he is your policeman?
As much as anyone is.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 12:29 pm
Yep me too, just posting like others. So if you don't agree with my take on things I am an asshole? Hmmmmmm.... Ok. I accept that. Issue over.
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 12:33 pm
From the Hall of Fame thread:
TheMercenary;327945 wrote:
Well thanks for pointing that out. That is real important to me.:eek:



This is a post made by an asshole.

Just saying...
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 12:35 pm
glatt;327971 wrote:
From the Hall of Fame thread:



This is a post made by an asshole.

Just saying...


Ok. You have an opinion. Great. Congrats. I don't think so, but my opinion is less valid than yours so you must be correct. That makes sense. :rolleyes:
Sundae • Mar 29, 2007 12:42 pm
TheMercenary;327973 wrote:
Ok. You have an opinion. Great. Congrats. I don't think so, but my opinion is less valad than yours so you must be correct. That makes sense. :rolleyes:

I assume you mean "valid", in which case you are deliberately putting words into Glatt's mouth. And thereby being an arsehole.

On the other hand if you mean "valued" you are quite right. Stick around, get to know people, stop double and triple posting and perhaps we will come to value your opinion even if we disagree with the actual idea behind it.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 12:46 pm
Sundae Girl;327977 wrote:
I assume you mean "valid", in which case you are deliberately putting words into Glatt's mouth. And thereby being an arsehole.

On the other hand if you mean "valued" you are quite right. Stick around, get to know people, stop double and triple posting and perhaps we will come to value your opinion even if we disagree with the actual idea behind it.


Ok, yes spelling error. :D

Valid. I was deliberately being an asshole but not putting anything into anyones mouth. I'll leave that to the people who started this little ditty.

Where am I double and tripple posting???? really.

And how is this poster:

Originally Posted by BigV
"The point" of the Hall of Fame:
Regardless whether you're "missing" the point or "ignoring" it, you still aren't "getting it."
not being an asshole?
Sundae • Mar 29, 2007 12:48 pm
I think I might mean tailgating (responding more than once where your post is the last one in the thread)

It's not in The Rules. I'm offering my opinion is all....
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 12:53 pm
Sundae Girl;327983 wrote:
I think I might mean tailgating (responding more than once where your post is the last one in the thread)

It's not in The Rules. I'm offering my opinion is all....

Tailgating. I guess I never heard of that. I just thought of it as conversation. I'm not doing it just to be the last one in the thread, really. I was just participating. Nothing more.
DanaC • Mar 29, 2007 12:56 pm
I've never really understood why 'tailgating' is a problem. Sometimes you just want to keep responses separate.
Shawnee123 • Mar 29, 2007 1:14 pm
Sigh...I wish someone would tailgate me. It's been so long. (This one's for Shel.) :)

[COLOR="DimGray"]By the way, Sheldon, I hope you don't mind when I call you Shel. I don't really know you well enough to assume you don't mind being called that. Sometimes people don't like nicknames...so let me know if I've been obtrusive. [/COLOR]
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 1:19 pm
TheMercenary;327981 wrote:
And how is this poster:

Originally Posted by BigV
"The point" of the Hall of Fame:
Regardless whether you're "missing" the point or "ignoring" it, you still aren't "getting it."
not being an asshole?


He's not being an asshole because it is a thread he started. He set it up as a gift to the Cellar community. It's a place where we can put all the good posts from the rest of the Cellar so we can find them easily. It's a special thread to many here. You were posting in it in an inappropriate way. After it was explained to you why the thread was a special thread, you dismissed the explanation in the quote I posted above.

That's why he wasn't being an asshole, but you were. He was correct that you weren't getting it. By quoting him here, you confirm that you still weren't getting it.
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 1:22 pm
Let me add that I still have hope for you. You bring a new perspective to the Cellar. You are mixing it with an attitude, and that detracts from what you have to offer.

Edit: Sorry this sounds so freaking condescending. Didn't mean for it to.
Hime • Mar 29, 2007 1:23 pm
DanaC;327988 wrote:
I've never really understood why 'tailgating' is a problem. Sometimes you just want to keep responses separate.


I do it sometimes because I think of something a while after posting, and want to add that thought. :) I guess it could be a problem if everyone was tired of a particular thread, and one poster just wouldn't let it die.

I think that sometimes extreme conservatives, at least in what passes for mainstream political discourse, seem defensive because it's in the very meaning of the word conservative -- while progressives welcome social change, conservatives see the majority of changes to tradition as a negative. Therefore, even at times when conservatives are in the majority in the sense that most people vote republican and support conservative issues, they are still fighting against the current.

I strongly believe that eventually, inclusive sex education in all public schools will be considered as shocking as hearing the word "crap" on TV is now, and gay marriage will be about as protested as interracial marriage is now. The overarching trends in social change are liberal. Someone like Bill O'Reilly managed to seem angry all the time even when the President, most of Congress and more than half of the American people agreed with him, because this is not the world he grew up in, and his children and grandchildren are going to grow up in worlds even farther removed from that "innocent time." Anger and defensiveness are an understandable reaction to that reality.

This isn't a commentary on TheMercenary, whose posts I mostly haven't encountered. I generally feel that he who has never been an asshole on the internet should cast the first stone, and heaven knows that isn't me. :o But it's my personal explanation for why conservative pundits tend to seem like their arteries are about to burst.
Beestie • Mar 29, 2007 1:28 pm
glatt;328002 wrote:
Let me add that I still have hope for you.
I don't think you realize exactly what you are dealing with. Yet.
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 1:31 pm
TheMercenary;327969 wrote:
.... So if you don't agree with my take on things I am an asshole? Hmmmmmm.... Ok. I accept that. Issue over.
No, if you act like an asshole, people will think you're an asshole. Your #1) behavior detracts from your #2) take on things. It's two separate issues. I've explained this already, there shouldn't be any more confusion. Issue over? No, issue ignored. Again.

I didn't intend this to be a "call-out thread" - I actually am curious about this observed phenomenon: why do people of any political leaning let their abusive personalities besmirch the name of what they claim to stand for? You could say the same thing about people of any political stripe. I just happen to have observed, on this and many other boards, that there is a particular flavor of rude asshole that seems to reside in a certain political zone. You just happen to be the latest example in a long line of remarkably similar posters I've seen blow through here.

TheMercenary;327853 wrote:
... Make up crap about me, who I am, what I think from some minor postings on a public forum is out of line.

I don't claim to know anything about you other than what I've seen you post here, and of that, I've probably seen only a small bit. Maybe I'm making a glaring mischaracterization of your output, but I don't think it will hurt your feelings. If it does, I apologize.
Sheldonrs • Mar 29, 2007 1:31 pm
Shawnee123;327993 wrote:
Sigh...I wish someone would tailgate me. It's been so long. (This one's for Shel.) :)

[COLOR="DimGray"]By the way, Sheldon, I hope you don't mind when I call you Shel. I don't really know you well enough to assume you don't mind being called that. Sometimes people don't like nicknames...so let me know if I've been obtrusive. [/COLOR]


Actually I prefer being called Shel. It's how I sign notes, etc.
But if you ever want to piss me off, call me "Shelly". :)

btw, it's been a LOOOOONG time since I was tailgated too. I'm mostly a top so I do the tailgating. hehehe
glatt • Mar 29, 2007 1:36 pm
Beestie;328007 wrote:
I don't think you realize exactly what you are dealing with. Yet.


:eyebrow:
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 1:45 pm
You know, I think one day we'll all look back on this and laugh.

Sometimes I like to chuckle at the old threads from when I first got here.
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 1:46 pm
When Slang first joined, he was such a dickhead. Then he chilled out and became a great poster, even though I rarely agreed with him. I'm now proud to call him a friend.
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 1:48 pm
Well, if anybody thought I was a dick when I joined, I guess you can look at this thread and say, "Oh, this is what Flint being a dick looks like!"
Sheldonrs • Mar 29, 2007 1:56 pm
Flint;328018 wrote:
Well, if anybody thought I was a dick when I joined, I guess you can look at this thread and say, "Oh, this is what Flint's dick looks like!"


Pics?!! Where's the pics?!!!


lol!!!
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 1:58 pm
QUACQ!
Sheldonrs • Mar 29, 2007 2:13 pm
Flint;328022 wrote:
QUACQ!


OINK!

(pronounced Aardvark)

hehehe
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 4:14 pm
Ok, I am an asshole. Thanks fellas. Glad to be your new resident asshole. :D
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 4:15 pm
glatt;327999 wrote:

That's why he wasn't being an asshole, but you were. He was correct that you weren't getting it. By quoting him here, you confirm that you still weren't getting it.

Or I don't really give a shit, well.... because I am an asshole. ;)
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 4:17 pm
Beestie;328007 wrote:
I don't think you realize exactly what you are dealing with. Yet.


Yea watch out, it could just be another asshole...:p
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2007 4:43 pm
Sheldonrs;328010 wrote:
Actually I prefer being called Shel. It's how I sign notes, etc.
But if you ever want to piss me off, call me "Shelly". :)

btw, it's been a LOOOOONG time since I was tailgated too. I'm mostly a top so I do the tailgating. hehehe
When I hear the name Shel, the first thing that comes to mind is Shel Silverstein, one very, very funny man. Come to think of it, he's bald too.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2007 4:52 pm
Tailposting is not an issue on a bulletin board where you come back and there's been several pages of dialog generated, as long as you've read the entire thread.
If interest has waned then it doesn't matter who has the last post.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2007 5:10 pm
Flint;327813 wrote:
Right-Wing Assholes
Why do they always have to be so rude? It's not fair to others that may share their viewpoint, that they come off as such loudmouthed shit-for-brains. You know what I'm talking about. Either it's the same person making new accounts every time they wear out their welcome, or there is actually a whole population of these fucktards out there. Hey, make sure and use a sledgehammer to get your point across. That doesn't alienate anybody.
I don't think they're right wing unless they can fly. When you hang political labels on people, or even accept ones they hang on themselves. you buy into the bullshit of they are AAAA so they must believe and endorse, XXXX, YYYY, and ZZZZ. That ain't necessarily so.

Rude on the internet? Why should it be any different than off the internet? In the real world they say the same thing and then slap you. You've been hanging around the hospital too much, where people are reasonably civil..... except the Doctors to the nurses.

If an asshole states a position you agree with, that doesn't mean you're agreeing with an asshole, it means an asshole happens to agree with you.
On the other hand if you insist on calling yourself and them whatever-label, that makes you birds of a feather, to others.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 5:13 pm
This thread reminds me of a Frank Zappa song...

Some of you might not agree
'Cause you probably likes a lot of misery
But think a while and you will see...
Broken hearts are for assholes
Broken hearts are for assholes
Are you an asshole?
Broken hearts are for assholes
Are you an asshole too?
Whatcha gonna do, 'cause you're an asshole...

Maybe you think you're a lonely guy
Maybe you think you're too tough to cry
So you went to the grape,
Just to give it a try
And Dagmar
(Without a doubt, the ugliest sonofabitch I ever saw in my life)
Was his name...
(One Two Three Four!)
The whiskers sticking out from underneath of his
Pancake make-up
(And yet he was a beautiful lady)
Nearly drove you insane
(Let's talk about Leather: LEATHERRRRRR)
And so you kissed a little sailor
(Tex Abel, starring in the latest Shepperton Production:)
Who had just blew in from Spain
(Sir Richard Pump-A-Loaf)
You sniffed the reeking buns of Angel
(The story of a demented bread-boffer)
And acted like it was cocaine
(Cucumber pud annexed to a fine whole-wheat loaf)
You were dazzled by the exciting new costume of Ko-Ko
(Then on Tuesday night, Ceasar's back in town)
In a way you can't explain
(Facing off in a no-holds-barred tag team grudge match
With Kona.)
And so you worked the wall with Michael
(Three-hundred-seventy-nine pounds of Samoan dynamite)
Which gave your back an awful strain
(Volcanic Hell)
But you came back on Sunday for the gong show
(Next Thursday, teen town's finest...)
But you forgot what I was sayin'
'Cause you're an asshole, You're an asshole
That's right
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
Yes, yes
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
[ these lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]
That's right
You're an asshole, you're an asshole

(Now you been to The Grape 'n' you been to The Chest
'N' now I think you know what you are: you're an asshole)

You say you can't live with what you been through
Well, ladies you can be an asshole too
You might pretend you ain't got one on the bottom of you,
But don't fool yerself girl
It's lookin' at you
Don't fool yerself girl
It's winkin' at you
Don't fool yerself girl
It's blinkin' at you
That's why I say
I'm gonna ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
(Corn hole)
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
(Fist fuck)
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
(Wrist-watch; Crisco)
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
(Pud!)

Don't fool yerself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yerself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yerself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yerself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yerself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yerself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute

(Aw, I knew you'd be surprised...)
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 5:13 pm
@Bruce: You can't say something about something without calling it something; or else it doesn't mean anything.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2007 5:27 pm
You can't call somebody an asshole without saying a whatever-label asshole?

You can't have an opinion about the war, education, health care, etc, without claiming it to be a whatever-label position?

I disagree.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 5:32 pm
If it would make you all feel better I could just change my name from TheMercenary to TheAsshole. :D
bluecuracao • Mar 29, 2007 6:26 pm
It would make me laugh...so I guess it would make me feel better. :lol:
kerosene • Mar 29, 2007 8:11 pm
While we were associating this thread to songs, I was just going through a verse of Denis Leary's Asshole song in my head. Maybe I should start a thread about songs with the word asshole in them. I would be curious to see how many there really are out there.

edit: songs, not assholes. I want to see how many songs are out there.
elSicomoro • Mar 29, 2007 8:13 pm
Awesome...do it! But it has to be "asshole," not ass.
Flint • Mar 29, 2007 9:54 pm
xoxoxoBruce;328177 wrote:
You can't call somebody an asshole without saying a whatever-label asshole?

You can't have an opinion about the war, education, health care, etc, without claiming it to be a whatever-label position?

I disagree.
Yeah, I also disagree with that. So who are we disagreeing with, your imaginary friend? Hi, Bruce's friend! We all disagree with you.
kerosene • Mar 29, 2007 10:00 pm
I wanted to say hi to Bruce's friend, too. Any friend of Bruce's is a friend of mine, sez I.
TheMercenary • Mar 29, 2007 10:12 pm
Hi Bruce's friend. Join the special Asshole forum link, come on in, the water's fine. A little murky but your butt will get use to the regular anal probe insertions from the group. :D
wolf • Mar 30, 2007 1:09 pm
TheMercenary;327934 wrote:
Great so meet me half way. So Flint was a dick when he got here and now he is not?


No, he's still a dick. I think that he used enough foreplay that we're not as dry as when he first started.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 31, 2007 3:07 am
Flint;328169 wrote:
@Bruce: You can't say something about something without calling it something; or else it doesn't mean anything.

xoxoxoBruce;328177 wrote:
You can't call somebody an asshole without saying a whatever-label asshole?
You can't have an opinion about the war, education, health care, etc, without claiming it to be a whatever-label position?
I disagree.

Yeah, I also disagree with that. So who are we disagreeing with, your imaginary friend? Hi, Bruce's friend! We all disagree with you.

I guess Flint is just imaginary asshole.
We should be so lucky.
elSicomoro • Mar 31, 2007 11:49 am
wolf;328573 wrote:
No, he's still a dick. I think that he used enough foreplay that we're not as dry as when he first started.


No...he got some K-Y from me.
lumberjim • Apr 5, 2007 12:05 am
update: The Mercenary IS, in fact, an Asshole.



I'm lumberjim, and I approve this message.
monster • Apr 5, 2007 12:11 am
lumberjim;330819 wrote:
update: The Mercenary IS, in fact, an Asshole..


Is that a bad thing? Everyone needs an asshole, don't they?
TheMercenary • Apr 5, 2007 12:14 am
lumberjim;330819 wrote:
update: The Mercenary IS, in fact, an Asshole.



I'm lumberjim, and I approve this message.


Thank you, thank you very much. :rollhappy:
:shocking:
Aliantha • Apr 5, 2007 2:15 am
lumberjim;330819 wrote:
update: The Mercenary IS, in fact, an Asshole.


I actually thought he was more of a moron, but I guess that's just me.
DanaC • Apr 5, 2007 3:44 am
I don't think he's a moron. I think he's a little right wing for my tastes.....but I wouldn't say he was particularly moronic/assholic (ooooo.....I just made a word!). There've been waaaaaay worse on this board.
Aliantha • Apr 5, 2007 10:39 pm
How about assaholic? Would that mean you're addicted to ass?
Sheldonrs • Apr 5, 2007 11:14 pm
Aliantha;331054 wrote:
How about assaholic? Would that mean you're addicted to ass?


There's already a group called AA. Maybe we can form one called Piece of AA.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 5, 2007 11:48 pm
Oh, how about AA with a piece of A in the back door.
DanaC • Apr 6, 2007 6:34 am
LoL.
Griff • Apr 9, 2007 2:24 pm
Is the new one a spin off or an original production?
duck_duck • Apr 9, 2007 2:29 pm
What exactly is a right wing? And what do wings have to do with politics?
DanaC • Apr 9, 2007 2:37 pm
*grins* spoken like a true duck:P

Right wing and left wing, are just ways of categorising which 'side' of the political divide you are on. The terminology comes from the French political system during the revolution. During the Estates General of 1789, the liberal deputies from the Third Estate sat on the left hand side of the president and the nobility, members of the Second Estate, sat to the right.
duck_duck • Apr 9, 2007 2:43 pm
ooohh ok thank you for explaining that. I kept seeing those terms used but never knew what that meant. :)
DanaC • Apr 9, 2007 4:14 pm
*smiles* the exact meaning differs a little from country to country. Generally speaking, in America the Democrats lean to the left and the Republicans lean to the right. In England, the Labour party lean to the left and the Conservatives lean to the right.
Trilby • Apr 9, 2007 4:59 pm
*grins*

and silently thinks: "fuck you"

that's the strategie.
DanaC • Apr 9, 2007 5:12 pm
*nods* k. Whatever.
Trilby • Apr 9, 2007 5:21 pm
*indeed*
DanaC • Apr 9, 2007 5:25 pm
*does a handstand*
Trilby • Apr 9, 2007 5:53 pm
DanaC;332316 wrote:
*does a handstand*


again, we see how cheap you are. Handstands---really? You cunting whore!


and, once again: Good Luck!
duck_duck • Apr 9, 2007 5:53 pm
DanaC;332284 wrote:
*smiles* the exact meaning differs a little from country to country. Generally speaking, in America the Democrats lean to the left and the Republicans lean to the right. In England, the Labour party lean to the left and the Conservatives lean to the right.

So who decides what stance on an issue is left leaning or right leaning?
Happy Monkey • Apr 9, 2007 6:18 pm
pundits.
BigV • Apr 9, 2007 6:27 pm
If you're asking seriously, I'll give you a serious answer. HM's right, as far as it applies. Any serious thinker looks past the wrapping paper to see what's inside. If it's shit, the wrapping doesn't change it.

Most of the punditry just want to sway the reader/viewer's opinion in their favor. This can be done by pulling the reader toward them by presenting it favorably, or by pushing the reader away from the position and associating it with the opposition. The label doesn't really matter. Read deeper.
duck_duck • Apr 9, 2007 7:17 pm
I wasn't born with pre-programmed knowledge on how western politics work so when I ask a question about it of course I'm being serious. I have just recently become interested in the subject so I still do not know what certain terms mean or who stands for what.
I apologize if my stupid questions and opinions offend your vast intellect but thank you for answering.
DanaC • Apr 9, 2007 7:20 pm
It was a perfectly sensible question ducks. The thing about right and left is....not everybody subscribes to that way of thinking. Some people like to take things issue by issue and don't like being labelled as right or left. Myself, i am quite happy to describe myself as leftwing. That doesn't mean I don't examine every issue on its merits; it does mean that I have a particular analysis through which I tend to view issues and events. That analysis is a left wing one, i take a marxist analysis of the world.
BigV • Apr 9, 2007 7:54 pm
Labels such as these are most often applied and used as shortcuts, as stereotypes. As stereotypes, they're not very useful. I'm sure you have experience with stereotypes, right? They have only a superficial usefulness.

And as shortcuts, well, they're just pointers to the facts. You still have to go get the facts yourself. But many people just stop at the shortcut and decide that they "know" something because they've been told it's right or left this or that.
TheMercenary • Apr 17, 2007 2:48 pm
DanaC;332379 wrote:
Some people like to take things issue by issue and don't like being labelled as right or left.

That is me, but I don't care what you call me, as long as it is not late for dinner or beers.:D
Flint • May 21, 2007 11:25 pm
The answer was (probably) just: Confirmation Bias.

The mental checklist which assists you in reinforcing the ideas you already have, IE "Another one of <those>!"

(Upon the realization of which, you think to yourself, maybe that's not fair, but then again, you think, hell it can't just be a coincidence...)
TheMercenary • May 23, 2007 12:25 am
Negro, stop already....
TheMercenary • May 23, 2007 1:02 am
Hope for lumberjim:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,11000-2007230354,00.html
lumberjim • May 23, 2007 1:14 am
$100 says my wife is hotter that your ex.

oh, and i make 3 times what you make, minimum. and i have 2 beautiful kids that actually like me.....and i enjoy my life....and i'm taller and prettier than you are....even as fat as i am.
TheMercenary • May 23, 2007 1:18 am
lumberjim;345854 wrote:
$100 says my wife is hotter that your ex.

oh, and i make 3 times what you make, minimum. and i have 2 beautiful kids that actually like me.....and i enjoy my life....and i'm taller and prettier than you are....even as fat as i am.

Ok... In your fantasies. That's cool. Short fat guys need love too. I'm in. :D
Ibby • May 23, 2007 3:20 am
LJ wins on all counts thus far - post some numbers and that woman so we can see that he beats you on all counts, Merc.