BRRRRRRRRRING BRRRRRRRING

freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 12:37 am
HEY MOTHERFUCKERS!
ANSWER YOU'RE GODDAMN CELL PHONES!
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaallly dislike when people don't answer their cell phones and I dislike it even more when they give me a lame ass excuse like "uhhhh i didn't feel it....all day...." or "i didn't check it....all day"

WHAT THE FUCK DO U HAVE IT FOR???
stupid ass lame shit like that frustrates me
sorry, angry soapbox

God gave us cell phone's for a reason

C O M M U N I C A T I O N
lumberjim • Mar 27, 2007 12:40 am
god didnt give us cell phones, he gave us the brains to know when not to answer them because there's a looney calling.
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 12:40 am
Yup, I answer my phone when I feel like it.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 12:42 am
im talkin about friends or people close to u who's behaivor is so retarded when it comes to simple communication
lumberjim • Mar 27, 2007 12:44 am
you mean people that know you're looney?
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 12:45 am
im not looney im pissed off at people who don't utilze cell phones like my girlfriend
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 12:47 am
If you know this, let it go.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 12:55 am
let what go? if someone's behaivor is so fucking retarded that they constantly don't check their cell phone then they don't belong in 2007. The concept of a cell phone is so easy- if you're not going to use the technology then don't have one in the first place. And give me a better excuse than "i just didn't check it all day" cause that shit is infuriating that they just didn't think to check it all day. it mean's they didn't think of YOU all day either
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 12:56 am
If this is someone who treats you well and is loving and true, this is a trivial and silly thing to get upset about, but have at it if you want.
BTW, I've been with my wife for 17 years... just sayin'.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 12:58 am
ok what is a relationship without communication. eh? EH?

especially a long distance one where communication is at the top of the pyramid
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 1:01 am
As I said, up to you. I would talk to her about it calmly, let her know that it bothers you.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 1:03 am
I do and have been. That's why I'm tired of it and angry :(
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 1:05 am
Then you have to choose to let it go or have issues.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 1:08 am
:yelsick: Yeaaaaaaaaah
Beestie • Mar 27, 2007 1:22 am
Next time, try calling from a number she doesn't recognize.

:cool:
seakdivers • Mar 27, 2007 1:24 am
I'm guessin (out on a limb here) that she is not answering for a reason. Call me crazy...
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 1:30 am
Ok, yur crazy... nope, did nothin' for me.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 1:50 am
Beestie;326792 wrote:
Next time, try calling from a number she doesn't recognize.

:cool:


It's not even that she is screening my calls, it's that she just doesn't answer her fone because.....she just doesn't even realize she has a cell phone for half the day! And then when I tell her "where the F you been!" she's like "oh...i forgot to check my fone, sorry"

Buncha bsssss mannnnnnn
Bullitt • Mar 27, 2007 2:21 am
If somebody doesn't leave a message, and only calls once, sorry but I'm not callin back.
DucksNuts • Mar 27, 2007 6:05 am
Hmmm

Cell phones arent an obligation to be available 24hrs a day or even 4hrs a day. They are a convenience.

Sorry ...brutal truth...I use that kinda line all the time and its because I dont want to talk to whoever was calling :)

This is the gf you just got back together with?
DanaC • Mar 27, 2007 6:18 am
Maybe you are phoning her too often and she doesn't want to talk that much.
CzinZumerzet • Mar 27, 2007 6:24 am
She has decided not to answer your calls. Not rocket science is it...?
DanaC • Mar 27, 2007 7:06 am
Could be somethin.....could be nothin.....either way I guarantee making a fuss about it is not likely to make the situation better:P
cowhead • Mar 27, 2007 9:29 am
don't belong in 2007? more than likely not, however since I'm here... I answer my phone when it's an appropriate time for me to do so, not at work, not driving my car, not in the bathroom etc. and if it's that important.. call again. or send a text message so I know what it's about without having to waste my time or yours w/ idle banter.

and on a side note.. long distance relationship huh? haven't had good luck with that sort of relationship myself, tried it a few times and have always been let down (which has left me more than a little paranoid about them. I wish you luck.).
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 11:30 am
No, no no everyone's not getting the point!!

She just doesn't check her fone.....for no reason at all!
#1, she's on spring break so there's no work or nothing obligating importance that is inappropriate for her to answer.
#2, I don't overly call but I mean in 11 hours I expect a freakin' call back by then!!!!! That's how long I was waiting for a call back, mind you. She isn't screening my calls, she just doesn't utilize her fone!

Her only excuse is "uhhh I just forgot to check it, sorry." Seriously. Lame.
Happy Monkey • Mar 27, 2007 11:32 am
Cell phones are for the convenience of the owner, not the convenience of people who call them. If helping people call them is what they want to do, that's great, but it's not a requirement.
BigV • Mar 27, 2007 2:23 pm
AS USUAL, I can't improve on Happy Monkey's analysis. Concise, correct, decisive and direct. Typical.
Cloud • Mar 27, 2007 2:48 pm
so what if she isn't checking her cell phone? Phones are evil, and people become enslaved.

I rarely answer my phones.
monster • Mar 27, 2007 9:20 pm
freshnesschronic;326872 wrote:
No, no no everyone's not getting the point!!



:eyebrow:

Everyone's crazy but you, huh?


You ask the question but you don't listen to the answer.

Lame excuses are usually lies. If she wanted to hear from you, she'd check her phone.

Needy is a big turn off for most.

Why would you want to be with someone who is so lame?

My cell is for my convenience. If anyone calls me on it, it had better be an emergency. Does that make me a "fucking retard"?
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 9:23 pm
freshnesschronic;326872 wrote:
No, no no everyone's not getting the point!!

She just doesn't check her fone.....for no reason at all!
#1, she's on spring break so there's no work or nothing obligating importance that is inappropriate for her to answer.
#2, I don't overly call but I mean in 11 hours I expect a freakin' call back by then!!!!! That's how long I was waiting for a call back, mind you. She isn't screening my calls, she just doesn't utilize her fone!

Her only excuse is "uhhh I just forgot to check it, sorry." Seriously. Lame.


We clearly understand, we just don't agree with you.

There is no such thing as "no reason"... she just does not want to answer her phone when it rings.
It really is not that big of a deal.
lumberjim • Mar 27, 2007 9:26 pm
lumberjim;326766 wrote:
god didnt give us cell phones, he gave us the brains to know when not to answer them because there's a looney calling.


freshnesschronic;326768 wrote:
im talkin about friends or people close to u who's behaivor is so retarded when it comes to simple communication


lumberjim;326769 wrote:
you mean people that know you're looney?


eh hem
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 9:30 pm
I'm sorry I'm so dense but I think there is a generation gap issue...I'm in college and everyone of my friends picks up their fone 24/7. Maybe not for working middle aged office people. When you're in college, cell phones are the medium to the outside and inside world. When you're not on the Internet, you're still connected to you're cell phone. So don't assume like everyone knows what it's like to be in college in 2007. Cell phones are seriously life. I talk to my friends at least an hour a day just planning to meet them wherever or whatever. Everyone of you is like "it's convenience, because I'm 50 and I'm busy at work and blah blah" but no you don't understand college kids now. Cell phones are not a convenience to me (or HER), it is a way to be connected to everyone all the time. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the rules of the game have changed since your higher education. No more typewriters. We have laptops. So please trust me as I say cell phones are so much connected into college students everyday needs and communications.
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 9:34 pm
freshnesschronic;327092 wrote:
I'm sorry I'm so dense but I think there is a generation gap issue...I'm in college and everyone of my friends picks up their fone 24/7. Maybe not for working middle aged office people. When you're in college, cell phones are the medium to the outside and inside world. When you're not on the Internet, you're still connected to you're cell phone. So don't assume like everyone knows what it's like to be in college in 2007. Cell phones are seriously life. I talk to my friends at least an hour a day just planning to meet them wherever or whatever. Everyone of you is like "it's convenience, because I'm 50 and I'm busy at work and blah blah" but no you don't understand college kids now. Cell phones are not a convenience to me (or HER), it is a way to be connected to everyone all the time. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the rules of the game have changed since your higher education. No more typewriters. We have laptops. So please trust me as I say cell phones are so much connected into college students everyday needs and communications.

It does not seem to be like that for her.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 9:35 pm
She's an exception. That is why I'm angry in the first place.
Happy Monkey • Mar 27, 2007 9:38 pm
"Generation gap" is only based on averages. It says nothing about individuals. And even for individuals, there are moods. You can get fed up with being "connected to everyone all the time", and a vacation is a great time to disconnect.
lumberjim • Mar 27, 2007 9:38 pm
i think she's avoiding you.
rkzenrage • Mar 27, 2007 9:40 pm
freshnesschronic;327096 wrote:
She's an exception. That is why I'm angry in the first place.


Again, you are going to have to decide how important this is to you.
jinx • Mar 27, 2007 9:40 pm
freshnesschronic;327092 wrote:
...So please trust me as I say cell phones are so much connected into college students everyday needs and communications.


I believe you. Which brings us back around to the idea that has been mentioned several times already; she is ignoring your calls.
monster • Mar 27, 2007 9:41 pm
Right. The exception.

Ummmm.. just so's you know, logic doesn't change with the generations. She doesn't want to talk to you :)
DucksNuts • Mar 27, 2007 9:43 pm
freshnesschronic;327092 wrote:
I'm sorry I'm so dense but I think there is a generation gap issue...I'm in college and everyone of my friends picks up their fone 24/7. Maybe not for working middle aged office people. When you're in college, cell phones are the medium to the outside and inside world. When you're not on the Internet, you're still connected to you're cell phone. So don't assume like everyone knows what it's like to be in college in 2007. Cell phones are seriously life. I talk to my friends at least an hour a day just planning to meet them wherever or whatever. Everyone of you is like "it's convenience, because I'm 50 and I'm busy at work and blah blah" but no you don't understand college kids now. Cell phones are not a convenience to me (or HER), it is a way to be connected to everyone all the time. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the rules of the game have changed since your higher education. No more typewriters. We have laptops. So please trust me as I say cell phones are so much connected into college students everyday needs and communications.



If this is so...then her behavior is REALLLLLLLYYYYYYYY saying something you dont want to hear.

You can say its just *her* all you like, but I would hazard a guess that she answers when someone she wants to speak to calls.

I have my phone with me 24/7 and return txt/sms messages within minutes of receiving them...even when I am at work.

But if someone calls that I dont want to talk too, or a guy calls thats all needy n pissy .... I dont answer and when I see them on msn or talk to them next...i say things like..."oh, I didnt check my phone" or "I left my phone in the car"...its total bullshit :)
monster • Mar 27, 2007 9:43 pm
I wonder why she would be avoiding him?
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 9:43 pm
Happy Monkey;327102 wrote:
"Generation gap" is only based on averages. It says nothing about individuals. And even for individuals, there are moods. You can get fed up with being "connected to everyone all the time", and a vacation is a great time to disconnect.


Ok? What relevance is this? Vacation? She's on spring break in her home city, she should be GETTING MORE calls from her friends to hang out and w/e. Like I said the generation gap is valid, even if it's based off averages. It's still totally valid why you and me think different of cell phones.
DucksNuts • Mar 27, 2007 9:45 pm
hahaha look at that little barrage, all saying the same thing.
freshnesschronic • Mar 27, 2007 9:47 pm
Old people win. Everyone happy? Now go ask your 20 year old kids how important their cell phones are to them.
DucksNuts • Mar 27, 2007 9:53 pm
YOU are missing the point.

If cells are that important....she doesnt want to talk to you.
monster • Mar 27, 2007 9:57 pm
I hope you aren't majoring in anything requiring logical reasoning.

Here's your sign :)
piercehawkeye45 • Mar 27, 2007 11:11 pm
Fresh, I am your age and I don't think my cell phone is life. I keep it on me and try to answer whenever I can but I too will avoid calls (usually work).

How many times do you call her a day? week?

How long do these phone calls last?
Kitsune • Mar 27, 2007 11:56 pm
freshnesschronic;327092 wrote:
Cell phones are seriously life.


You're one of those people. Creepy.

You answer your phone in public restrooms, don't you? Say, do you text there as well?
cowhead • Mar 28, 2007 1:18 am
ducknuts really really has a point there.... there are a million things you are not reading between the lines... pick up a pair of non-emotional bi-focals and take a closer look. at anyrate, there are some questions you need to be asking yourself about why she's NOT answering the phone or calling back for almost 1/2 a day. and I am not a proponent of jealousy, quite the opposite, but. . . . just think about it, don't act/react just yet.. just mull it over.
Aliantha • Mar 28, 2007 2:04 am
Sometimes I answer my cell phone and other times I don't. Sometimes I return text messages and other times I don't. I was the same when I was a uni student (college student).

If I don't feel like talking, I don't talk and if I don't feel like talking to you I wont answer your calls or texts. This doesn't necessarily mean I don't like you btw. It just means I'm not interested in talking to you at your convenience. I'll do it at my own, or not at all.

Such is life. Get over it or let the aggravation drive you crazy. Either way, it's not going to make me pay any extra attention to your calls. It has nothing to do with age. It has only to do with patience.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 28, 2007 4:02 am
freshnesschronic;327092 wrote:
snip~ I don't mean to offend anyone, but the rules of the game have changed since your higher education. No more typewriters. We have laptops. So please trust me as I say cell phones are so much connected into college students everyday needs and communications.
She's not a college student, is she? She doesn't have anything to to do with your education or life there. If she answered the phone what will you say, "Whatcha doin'"? Maybe she's got better things to do than answer your cross examination about who she's with and what she's doing.
Sundae • Mar 28, 2007 4:36 am
Fresh you're just going to have to accept that she is someone who doesn't check her phone all the time. You've told her it stresses you out and that you worry when you don't hear from her and it hasn't made a difference. Therefore you have a choice whether to keep letting it wind you up, or simply accept it.

I know people (no, not just OLD people) who genuinely aren't ruled by their phones. She's obviously one of them.

BUT. And it's a big but. You can bet your life that if it was important enough to her (new relationship, waiting on test results, family crisis) she would have the phone in her hand all day.

I'm notoriously difficult to get hold of amongst my circle of accquaintances. Sometimes I'll get a call at work from my Mum checking I'm okay, because one of my friends hasn't been able to get hold of me. If I haven't paid my phone bill I'll sometimes leave my phone off for two weeks until I can afford to pay it. It's strangely liberating.

Try backing off. See if you can leave it 12 hours before you try again. Then 24. Then 48.
be-bop • Mar 28, 2007 6:30 am
Sorry I'm with fresh on this one there is nothing more frustrating than trying to get a hold of someone on their mobile and they don't answer.
My wife is the perfect example I've lost count of the times I've needed to contact her for various reasons and because her phone is in the bottom of the huge handbag she lugs around she never hears it.
Once she was at an old lady friends house and the old dear was saying "can you hear that ringing noise"" no said my good lady wife" It was me trying to get a hold of her cos we needed to get papers signed to let our house sale go through..I was driving around the town and phoning everyone to try and find her
carcrazy • Mar 28, 2007 7:54 am
lmao same im like helloo didnt you buy that so you could talk to ppl and now all ur doing is ignoring them ... where did u leave ur brain??
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 8:04 am
Everyone of you is like "it's convenience, because I'm 50 and I'm busy at work and blah blah" but no you don't understand college kids now. Cell phones are not a convenience to me (or HER), it is a way to be connected to everyone all the time.


Yeep...nothin like a bit of generalisation to get the ball rolling huh? Y'know there is (and has always been) as much variation amongst people of the same generation as there is between the generations. Not all 20 yr olds are identical. They don't have identical values, they don't like identical music, they don't have identical hobbies and they don't respond identically to the world. I know kids of 18 who are a bitch to get hold of, who routinely let their phone power down and then forget to recharge it before they go out....and I know 50 yr olds who are married to their comms. Me? I am 35 and sometimes easy to get hold of and sometimes not. I always have my phone with me.....I call people often, I do not however, always answer it. Sometimes I just don't feel like talking. That has nothing to do with me being 35, i was the same when I was 12. It has nothing to do with my generation and how much the world has changed. The world has changed.....but people are very much the same: some are more sociable than others; people vary according to their mood.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 8:36 am
freshnesschronic;327092 wrote:
I'm sorry I'm so dense but I think there is a generation gap issue...I'm in college and everyone of my friends picks up their fone 24/7. Maybe not for working middle aged office people. When you're in college, cell phones are the medium to the outside and inside world. When you're not on the Internet, you're still connected to you're cell phone. So don't assume like everyone knows what it's like to be in college in 2007. Cell phones are seriously life. I talk to my friends at least an hour a day just planning to meet them wherever or whatever. Everyone of you is like "it's convenience, because I'm 50 and I'm busy at work and blah blah" but no you don't understand college kids now. Cell phones are not a convenience to me (or HER), it is a way to be connected to everyone all the time. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the rules of the game have changed since your higher education. No more typewriters. We have laptops. So please trust me as I say cell phones are so much connected into college students everyday needs and communications.



Yo, Dude! Everyone is texting everyone else that they are all going to jump off a cliff! You coming, or are you lame?

Seriously, I understand that things are different for youth these days. ("Now, you kids with your loud music and your Dan Fogelberg, your Zima, hula-hoops and your Pac-Man video games... People these days have attention spans that can only be measured in nano-seconds!") :)
But don't be so clingy...you may as well be pushing her off a cliff. Maybe she's (gasp) reading or studying and doesn't want to hear how Joe told Bob that they were going to play hacky-sack but Gina said Joe can't go because he promised to take her to Burger King for dinner and so Jimmy said Joe was whipped and Joe punched Jimmy and Shannon told the RA and everyone got written up..."

Nothing worse than clingy possessive partners; it makes you feel like you're dealing with a 5 year old.
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 8:45 am
but the rules of the game have changed since your higher education. No more typewriters. We have laptops


*chuckles* I like that.
busterb • Mar 28, 2007 9:25 am
I don't hear well, sometimes when outside and someone is visiting they'll say, phone's ringing. They act like I should break and run to answer. Right so some SOB can try to sell me a tombstone. Leave a message, I might just call back. At my convenience.
Years ago I asked my Dad why he wouldn't answer the phone after around 9pm. He told me at that time of night either someone had died or in trouble. If died, he couldn't help them and if in trouble they didn't need him to get in trouble, so didn't need him to get out.
bb 84
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 10:07 am
:p
busterb;327273 wrote:
Years ago I asked my Dad why he wouldn't answer the phone after around 9pm. He told me at that time of night either someone had died or in trouble. If died, he couldn't help them and if in trouble they didn't need him to get in trouble, so didn't need him to get out.
bb 84


I wasn't allowed to take or make a phone call after 9 pm. I still live by that; unless it's really important I won't call anyone after 9. Unless I feel like chatting (which I rarely do; I hate phones), or it's my family and I know something must be up, I won't pick up after 9 either.

I'm not a slave to the telephone, though I thank Mr Bell profusely for inventing it.
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 10:25 am
I keep my cell phone off unless I am making a call. I hate cell phones and hate when people are trying to conduct normal business and talking on their phones. Esp drivers. We need to do like the UK and have serious fines for people who talk and drive except with hands free phones.

I can't think of anyone who would need to talk to me in an emergency. My where abouts are most always known. When my where abouts are in question I may turn it on.

I hate the idiots who have their cell phones in the movie theater or other public performance. Turn off your cell phones dumbass, I paid to watch this in silence, not listen to you.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 10:31 am
TheMercenary;327295 wrote:
. Esp drivers. We need to do like the UK and have serious fines for people who talk and drive except with hands free phones.



I've read studies which say that hands-free isn't much safer; you are still distracted from the task at hand: watching for other crazy people swerving around talking on THEIR cell phones!
Kitsune • Mar 28, 2007 10:34 am
be-bop;327238 wrote:
Sorry I'm with fresh on this one there is nothing more frustrating than trying to get a hold of someone on their mobile and they don't answer.


Yeah, but 24/7? "Cell phones are seriously life"? Anyone who gets angry at having to leave a voicemail at any hour of any day is going to develop anxiety issues in five years.
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 10:37 am
Originally Posted by be-bop
Sorry I'm with fresh on this one there is nothing more frustrating than trying to get a hold of someone on their mobile and they don't answer.


Personally I find people who get pissed off at my not being available to talk whenever they so choose way more frustrating. I pay for my phone, they don't. I'll use it how and when I fucking well like.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 10:39 am
bebop wrote:
there is nothing more frustrating than trying to get a hold of someone on their mobile and they don't answer.
~snippage

NOTHING more frustrating? NOTHING? Wow, to be young again.
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 10:39 am
Shawnee123;327303 wrote:
I've read studies which say that hands-free isn't much safer; you are still distracted from the task at hand: watching for other crazy people swerving around talking on THEIR cell phones!


It has to be safer than some soccer mom with 3 kids and one hand on the wheel of a 4500 pound SUV not looking before she trys to turn with that one hand.:mad:
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 10:44 am
Dude, are you mad at me or sumpin'?:bawling:
:biglaugha

(lol @ soccer mom: how does she see around that big soccer ball sticker with the names tyler or taylor or skyler or whatever blocking half her back window?)
freshnesschronic • Mar 28, 2007 11:45 am
Finally, some support. Yack yack yack yack there needs to be two sides to any issue. Disagree or don't, it's all valid opinion.
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 11:46 am
Yack yack yack yack there needs to be two sides to any issue. Disagree or don't, it's all valid opinion.


You sure we're not too old to have a valid opinion?
jinx • Mar 28, 2007 11:48 am
TheMercenary;327311 wrote:
It has to be safer than some soccer mom with 3 kids and one hand on the wheel of a 4500 pound SUV not looking before she trys to turn with that one hand.:mad:


5200lb actually.... :D
freshnesschronic • Mar 28, 2007 11:49 am
DanaC;327356 wrote:
You sure we're not too old to have a valid opinion?


Please, don't tell me you're not offended by yack yack yack? :o
I never once tried to offend anyone, just justify my reasoning.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 11:49 am
lol @ DanaC
Dagney • Mar 28, 2007 11:59 am
When I was working, my cell phone was surgically attached to my head. I needed to be reachable 24/7 - (On call, no matter what, no matter when) Now that I've escaped from that grind, I forget it's even in my purse half the time (which is generally when the battery's dead and I need to use the dang thing).

I'm not 50. I'm not even 40. I carry a phone and so does my husband, but we're not 'ruled' by it. Our friends and family are able to reach us numerous ways - email, IM, SMS, land line, cell phone, carrier pigeon, etc. They call us, or leave a message on one of the aforementioned methods, and wait for us to get in touch with them. If they _really_ need us, (i.e. family health issue, emergency, etc), they'll try one or two of the other methods, and eventually track us down. But they surely don't get this angry if we don't call them back right away.

We purchased cell phones for our convenience - NOT the convenience of the people that call me. I would much rather have had one so I could go 'out' and live my life rather than having to sit at home while I was on call. And I'm the first one to bitch about the idiot on his cell phone in line at the grocery store, or the chick who'd rather talk than drive safely, and don't even get me started about the kids on wheely shoes with cell phones at the mall. If this makes me 'old', where's my AARP card?

I think a lot of this _IS_ generational - kids today want 'instant' gratification - and well, have a little hissy fit when it doesn't happen the way they want it to. (I'll get mad when she doesn't answer her phone the way I want her to). This particular situation however, sends up huge red flags and screams 'stalker' to me.

Dude, leave her a message, she'll get back to you if she wants to. If not (and really, this is clear to most of us, but apparently not you), she's just simply not gonna.
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 12:03 pm
*chuckles* Fresh, I ain't that easily offended sweety.
rkzenrage • Mar 28, 2007 12:06 pm
Why would anyone care if someone is on the phone at a grocery check-out?
glatt • Mar 28, 2007 12:28 pm
rkzenrage;327372 wrote:
Why would anyone care if someone is on the phone at a grocery check-out?


I was just wondering the same thing. Maybe she means the cashier is talking on the phone instead of waiting on customers. There's nothing wrong with a customer being on the phone.
Sundae • Mar 28, 2007 12:37 pm
rkzenrage;327372 wrote:
Why would anyone care if someone is on the phone at a grocery check-out?

No idea what Dagney's beef is, but I detest noise pollution and can run you a few off the top of my head:

Shopping can be a fraught experience at the best of times. I don't need this compunded by hearing, "I'm not going out Friday, nah I'm broke innit. Nah I can't go out. Nah, nah. I don't get my student loan til next week and I was out Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and I bought them new Diesel jeans today. Where you going anyway? Oh right. Right. Will that fit bird be there? Yeah the one wiv da fit arse. Yeah. Alright, see you bout 8 then. Yeah we're gonna get munted mate."

People on mobiles simply don't function as efficiently as those not on them (YMMV). If they are packing their shopping single handed in order to continue the dross above, they are slowing me down for no good reason.

I think it is rude at the point of being served, to stare blankly at the amount owed and hand a card over, as if the cashier is nothing more than a vending machine. Working in a supermarket isn't exactly a fulfilling job - it helps to have customers who talk to you, or at the very least acknowledge you.

The call can wait.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 12:41 pm
I agree completely, SG.

(what is ymmv?)
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 12:44 pm
I think it is rude at the point of being served, to stare blankly at the amount owed and hand a card over, as if the cashier is nothing more than a vending machine. Working in a supermarket isn't exactly a fulfilling job - it helps to have customers who talk to you, or at the very least acknowledge you.

The call can wait.


Well, most of the time it can, but not always. I don't see any reason to be rude to the cashier even if one is on the phone. Usually even if I am on the phone, I will nod and smile at the cashier, I might even mouth "thanks" whilst listening to whoever is on the phone. It's not ideal.....but just acting like the cashier isn't there isn't an option.
piercehawkeye45 • Mar 28, 2007 12:47 pm
rkzenrage;327372 wrote:
Why would anyone care if someone is on the phone at a grocery check-out?

The cashier. It pissed the hell out of me and the people behind him or her because they would usually take two to three times as long. Some people can multitask some people can't.
freshnesschronic • Mar 28, 2007 12:49 pm
Bwahahaha.

I was the cashier, for 2 and a half years. Working at the Jewel-Osco in my town (a popular super grocery/drug store in the US Mid West) I saw these customers on a daily basis. Basically, I didn't worry about if they didn't notice me. Sure, it's rude and lacking any effort at being courteous but it's whatever, I'm just gonna let it go, they are the customer. Customer's always right, that's what was ingrained in my head in my years of working in retail. I just suck it up and smile, "have a nice day ma'am."
Sundae • Mar 28, 2007 12:52 pm
Your Mileage May Vary
(in other words this is my personal experience and the conclusion I draw from it)
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 12:58 pm
rkzenrage;327372 wrote:
Why would anyone care if someone is on the phone at a grocery check-out?


Besides being rude and and not attending to the task at hand cause you are jabbing away as people are talking to you, and others are waiting for you to finish your task and get out of the way? Put your damm phone away and pay. If you are just standing there waiting, no problem, but don't be pissed if I try really hard to hear everyword being said, cause some people talk really loud. I just think it is rude. Ok, ok, if your mom is dying or your kid is sick, you can talk on the phone in line. Do you think anyone would get mad if I bumped you, you dropped your phone, and I stamped on it? :D Sorry about that mate.:evil3:
BigV • Mar 28, 2007 1:13 pm
so freshnesschronic, you asked her why this was happening, and she gave you the answer. clearly you don't like the answer, so my question to you is, do you think she's telling the truth?
Dagney • Mar 28, 2007 1:20 pm
Sundae Girl;327393 wrote:
No idea what Dagney's beef is, but I detest noise pollution and can run you a few off the top of my head:

Shopping can be a fraught experience at the best of times. I don't need this compunded by hearing, "I'm not going out Friday, nah I'm broke innit. Nah I can't go out. Nah, nah. I don't get my student loan til next week and I was out Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and I bought them new Diesel jeans today. Where you going anyway? Oh right. Right. Will that fit bird be there? Yeah the one wiv da fit arse. Yeah. Alright, see you bout 8 then. Yeah we're gonna get munted mate."

People on mobiles simply don't function as efficiently as those not on them (YMMV). If they are packing their shopping single handed in order to continue the dross above, they are slowing me down for no good reason.

I think it is rude at the point of being served, to stare blankly at the amount owed and hand a card over, as if the cashier is nothing more than a vending machine. Working in a supermarket isn't exactly a fulfilling job - it helps to have customers who talk to you, or at the very least acknowledge you.

The call can wait.


You stated my feelings concisely. I don't need to know what you're doing tonight, frankly I don't care. I also don't think it's quite fair for me to have to wait - wasting my time - while you debate which bar you want to get trashed at while the line behind me gets longer.

Cell phones are handy little things - but they can be quite annoying when used at the wrong time. In the check out line at the market = wrong time.
rkzenrage • Mar 28, 2007 1:31 pm
Rude?
What I am doing while I am in line at the store is none of your damn business. S-not rude, you being in my business is rude, mind your own.
I worked as a cashier and bagger for years while in school, I could care less what people do, phone, dealing with their kids, crossword puzzle, sing, dance, talking to me, etc, who cares really?
I do my job, get you done and move on, that is all that matters, end of story.
If they are slow, it may be the phone or just that they are slow, chances are it is the latter.
I don't like it in movies or theatre, places where I paid to listen to something, other than that, talk on your phone.
I don't care what the people around me are doing, I'm not nosy.
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 1:33 pm
If I think your inattentiveness is holding me up, I think you are rude and should be bitchslapped. If you don't want people in your business, don't do it in public.
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 1:34 pm
How about if two of you are stood in a queue together and talking...?
Spexxvet • Mar 28, 2007 1:41 pm
be-bop;327238 wrote:
Sorry I'm with fresh on this one there is nothing more frustrating than trying to get a hold of someone on their mobile and they don't answer.
...


[old man rant] I can remember when we had phones that actually had wires! These wires not only connected the speaker part to the other part of the phone, they went from that part into the wall! And we had to spin this round thing a bunch of times to call someone. And we had to wait until we were somewhere where there was a phone, and the person you wanted to talk to was somewhere where there was a phone. There were these things called "pay phones" along the streets. And we were happy we could call people. It was less time than the mail. [/old man rant]

Do you camplain at the length of time it takes a fax to be sent, too?
glatt • Mar 28, 2007 1:44 pm
Spexxvet;327447 wrote:
Do you camplain at the length of time it takes a fax to be sent, too?


I do. Scanning, converting to PDF, and e-mailing is so much faster and more likely to go through.
Happy Monkey • Mar 28, 2007 1:46 pm
BRRRRRRRRRING BRRRRRRRING
BRRRRRRRRRING BRRRRRRRING
BRRRRRRRRRING BRRRRRRRING
BRRRRRRRRRING BANANAPHONE!
Sundae • Mar 28, 2007 1:46 pm
I remember a time I missed a train going to see my friend. They only ran every 45 mins and she was already out shopping. I had to call my Mum from the station (I still lived at home - this is the olden-days) and tell her to pass on a message should my friend call.

She didn't have the sense to do that (bless her). Instead she stuck a note to the wall of the Tube station using her cough mixture. Made me very wary of cough mixture.

I missed the message, but came out of the station to use the payphone across the road - it was smack bang outside McDonalds (not that olden olden-days) and she saw me....
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 1:48 pm
DanaC;327439 wrote:
How about if two of you are stood in a queue together and talking...?


I don't do it on the phone. I could talk to him directly but I never answer my phone when engaged with business with other people. I think it is rude and disrespectful to the person who is standing in front of you. It sends a signal that your phone call is more important than the persons time you were first dealing with. I ignore calls and keep my phone off most of the time. Most people who know me have stopped calling me on my cell which is just how I want it. If I want to talk to you I will call you when I turn my phone on, when I am done, I turn it off.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 1:51 pm
Sorry, but it is kind of rude to assume that because it's your business that those of us whose business it is not can turn off our ears and not listen to what amounts to us to be inane caterwauling.

We are an egocentric society. It's no different than the person who thinks they've got the only car on the road, the jerk who lets doors slam in stranger's faces, the person who spits big old hockers in the middle of the sidewalk, the coworker who cracks every bone in their body during meetings; you are assuming your business supercedes everyone else's business and trumps a modicum of class and awareness of the world around you. It's a "look at me look at me" world and frankly I don't always care to look.

Spexxvet wrote:
Do you camplain at the length of time it takes a fax to be sent, too?

That reminds me of a Rita Rudner joke when she talked about our impatient society and how we'll stand in front of a microwave tapping our feet and looking at the timer and muttering "come on, come on...I don't have all minute!)
DanaC • Mar 28, 2007 1:55 pm
@merc: no, I mean if two people are stood in a queue talking, then everyone else can hear their conversation and they may be slowed down because they are not concentrating on what they are doing.
glatt • Mar 28, 2007 1:55 pm
Shawnee123;327459 wrote:
Sorry, but it is kind of rude to assume that because it's your business that those of us whose business it is not can turn off our ears and not listen to what amounts to us to be inane caterwauling.

We are an egocentric society. It's no different than the person who thinks they've got the only car on the road, the jerk who lets doors slam in stranger's faces, the person who spits big old hockers in the middle of the sidewalk, the coworker who cracks every bone in their body during meetings; you are assuming your business supercedes everyone else's business and trumps a modicum of class and awareness of the world around you. It's a "look at me look at me" world and frankly I don't always care to look.


I hear what you are saying, but does that mean if I'm standing in line with my wife, I'm not allowed to talk to her?
freshnesschronic • Mar 28, 2007 1:57 pm
Shawnee123;327459 wrote:

We are an egocentric society. It's no different than the person who thinks they've got the only car on the road, the jerk who lets doors slam in stranger's faces, the person who spits big old hockers in the middle of the sidewalk, the coworker who cracks every bone in their body during meetings; you are assuming your business supercedes everyone else's business and trumps a modicum of class and awareness of the world around you. It's a "look at me look at me" world and frankly I don't always care to look.


Well, we live in the ME-generation. People are becoming more narcissist. Who do you blame, society or "the person in front of you".
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 1:57 pm
DanaC;327460 wrote:
@merc: no, I mean if two people are stood in a queue talking, then everyone else can hear their conversation and they may be slowed down because they are not concentrating on what they are doing.


I have no idea. But that is usually not the case. To listen quietly is easier than conversing.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 2:08 pm
glatt;327461 wrote:
I hear what you are saying, but does that mean if I'm standing in line with my wife, I'm not allowed to talk to her?


Hell NO! :)

That's a point, but I think people talk differently on the phone: louder, more pointed, more expressive, because there aren't facial clues to rely on.

I can't put a finger on why I think so, but it seems different to me. Now stop making points I have no idea how to refute! :o
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 2:11 pm
freshnesschronic;327463 wrote:
Well, we live in the ME-generation. People are becoming more narcissist. Who do you blame, society or "the person in front of you".



I keep it easy and blame everyone and everything! :p

This article explains the "don't blame me" generation, which covers all our age groups!
Sundae • Mar 28, 2007 2:13 pm
glatt;327461 wrote:
I hear what you are saying, but does that mean if I'm standing in line with my wife, I'm not allowed to talk to her?


I wear earplugs on long train or coach journeys because the inanity of the conversations drives me crazy. I apologise for this again - I freely admit I am an intolerant person, although I try not to inflict it on the world.

I agree with what Shawnee though - people are louder and more pointed on the phone. You are also less likely to just hear a string of, "yeh, yeh, yeh, nah, naaaaah, ok" if the other person is present.

freshnesschronic;327463 wrote:
Well, we live in the ME-generation. People are becoming more narcissist. Who do you blame, society or "the person in front of you".

I blame the person in front of me. Get some bloody manners or suffer me tutting quietly behind you!
Dagney • Mar 28, 2007 2:30 pm
freshnesschronic;327463 wrote:
Well, we live in the ME-generation. People are becoming more narcissist. Who do you blame, society or "the person in front of you".


Not everyone in the world thinks the world revolves around them. I'd rather spend all my time with those who don't, then spend any amount of time around those who do.
Kitsune • Mar 28, 2007 2:50 pm
freshnesschronic;327463 wrote:
Who do you blame, society or "the person in front of you".


Since this is the ME-generation, I'm blaming YOU. ;)
BigV • Mar 28, 2007 3:00 pm
BigV;327421 wrote:
so freshnesschronic, you asked her why this was happening, and she gave you the answer. clearly you don't like the answer, so my question to you is, do you think she's telling the truth?
Well?
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2007 3:07 pm
BigV;327523 wrote:
Well?


Shhhhh, he's busy talking on his cell phone.

By the way, when this thread is at the top the mad face just stares at you from the home page. I get enough mad face around here!
piercehawkeye45 • Mar 28, 2007 3:53 pm
Hey! I made a me-generation topic in Home Base under "narcissism" so talk about it there, my thread is lonely....jerks.
freshnesschronic • Mar 28, 2007 4:14 pm
Yes, I think she's telling the truth. Because I know her and her communication tactics. No more need for anyone to to use personal insults on me.
Hime • Mar 28, 2007 4:18 pm
Shawnee123;327309 wrote:
~snippage

NOTHING more frustrating? NOTHING? Wow, to be young again.


Depends on the situation -- for instance, if it's snowing outside and you need to call your boss to ask if the office will be open and you can't get a hold of him on his phone. Or if you're mad at your S/O and want to yell at them but can't get through. :)

Having been in a long-distance relationship for a long time with the man I now live with and am planning to marry, I know that it produces a lot of anxiety when the person you love is far away and you can't get in touch with him. When we were long-distance, we knew each others' friends and families but not in the way that we would have in a conventional relationship -- if he'd been in an accident or something, it's unlikely that I would have found out right away. So you do worry, especially when someone said they would call, and then doesn't.

That said, even people who are very much in love need a break from constant connectivity sometimes. I sometimes don't answer my phone or leave it at home because I want to really enjoy what I'm doing, say if I'm going to a museum or hanging out with a good friend. It's harder to experience life directly if you know you're going to be interrupted by pointless phone calls asking what you are doing (that's a pet peeve about my bf: he ALWAYS says "whatcha doin'?" when he calls anyone on the phone. What if they're doing something private?).

I just graduated from college myself, and am very aware of the college culture where you're expected to answer your phone all the time. Everything happens at the last minute, so you are likely to get a call saying something like "Hey I got an extra ticket to the Kanye West show tonight and it starts in half an hour! Come with me!" and if you don't answer the phone, you miss the opportunity. On the other hand, during my first week of college I remember walking home from a show that I'd gone to by myself thinking about how amazing it was that for the first time like ever, no one knew where I was and no one had the right to know. I could have been anywhere. And I think that freedom is an important part of the college experience, too.
freshnesschronic • Mar 28, 2007 4:23 pm
Hime thanks for saying what I had trouble finding the words to.
rkzenrage • Mar 28, 2007 4:40 pm
freshnesschronic;327546 wrote:
Yes, I think she's telling the truth. Because I know her and her communication tactics. No more need for anyone to to use personal insults on me.


Ok, we'll resume reading your mind.
Clodfobble • Mar 28, 2007 4:47 pm
Shawnee123 wrote:
the coworker who cracks every bone in their body during meetings


Aw, MAN, are you saying I've been horribly rude this whole time? I can't help it, I pop my knuckles compulsively, it's not an attention thing. They hurt if I let them go too long unpopped!
Hime • Mar 28, 2007 5:42 pm
Clodfobble;327570 wrote:
Aw, MAN, are you saying I've been horribly rude this whole time? I can't help it, I pop my knuckles compulsively, it's not an attention thing. They hurt if I let them go too long unpopped!


I think everybody is doing something that is somebody's pet peeve. If you answer your phone, you piss off somebody who hates phones, if you don't, you piss off the person who's calling you who can't stand when people don't answer their phones. I don't think it's something to worry about too much. :)

My fiance is the same with the popping joints. The thing that really freaked me out at first was when he would crack his neck, but it doesn't bother me anymore. Sometimes I need to pop my hip joints, too.
DucksNuts • Mar 28, 2007 7:35 pm
TheMercenary;327311 wrote:
It has to be safer than some soccer mom with 3 kids and one hand on the wheel of a 4500 pound SUV not looking before she trys to turn with that one hand.:mad:


One hand??? You only need a finger to turn those babies....power steering :D

Turning aint nearly as difficult as steering, half turning around in the seat and searching with one hand to find elmo that was dropped by a now screaming two year old. :)
DucksNuts • Mar 28, 2007 7:48 pm
rkzenrage;327436 wrote:
Rude?
What I am doing while I am in line at the store is none of your damn business. S-not rude, you being in my business is rude, mind your own.
I worked as a cashier and bagger for years while in school, I could care less what people do, phone, dealing with their kids, crossword puzzle, sing, dance, talking to me, etc, who cares really?
I do my job, get you done and move on, that is all that matters, end of story.
If they are slow, it may be the phone or just that they are slow, chances are it is the latter.
I don't like it in movies or theatre, places where I paid to listen to something, other than that, talk on your phone.
I don't care what the people around me are doing, I'm not nosy.


Yet you are quick to get pissie when people do things like stop quickly in front of you when you are in your chair?

Its common courtesy not to stop abruptly, so is not talking on your phone whilst you are in a restaurant, at the checkout of any store or dealing with who is serving you.

FWIW, I am with you on the not stopping issue, I get pram rage occasionally....and I DONT care who talks on their phone...but I wont talk on the phone whilst in any of those situations out of common courtesy to others.

Oh and its kinda hard NOT to be in your business if you are discussing things on your phone in public ;)
DucksNuts • Mar 28, 2007 7:50 pm
Hmm reading those 2 posts, it appears I maybe a bit PMT-ish :D
rkzenrage • Mar 28, 2007 8:46 pm
DucksNuts;327663 wrote:
Yet you are quick to get pissie when people do things like stop quickly in front of you when you are in your chair?

Its common courtesy not to stop abruptly, so is not talking on your phone whilst you are in a restaurant, at the checkout of any store or dealing with who is serving you.

FWIW, I am with you on the not stopping issue, I get pram rage occasionally....and I DONT care who talks on their phone...but I wont talk on the phone whilst in any of those situations out of common courtesy to others.

Oh and its kinda hard NOT to be in your business if you are discussing things on your phone in public ;)


I stop talking when discussing things with the check-out person or server. I never stated anything about dealing with anyone, I only mentioned being in-line.
What does talking on the phone have to do with anyone around me in a restaurant?
Then I don't want you talking to those with you, same thing.
I will speak to whom I please when I please.
I am not "pissy" at all, if I were I would just run my, several hundred pound, chair with me, another couple hundred pounds, in it into their ankles and act like I was not looking, "oops" :right:
I don't see how what I am doing while on my own in public is "common" anything, as long as I am not overly loud, which I am not, phone-yellers confuse me. If you can speak to the person next to you I am going to speak on my phone and it is no one's business.
SteveDallas • Mar 28, 2007 8:52 pm
I don't have anything to contribute that hasn't already been said (at least) twice.

I just think it's fascinating what seemingly innocent posts will blow up and produce, say, eight pages of replies in less than two days.
TheMercenary • Mar 28, 2007 9:17 pm
DucksNuts;327656 wrote:
One hand??? You only need a finger to turn those babies....power steering :D

Turning aint nearly as difficult as steering, half turning around in the seat and searching with one hand to find elmo that was dropped by a now screaming two year old. :)


exactly. :D
Aliantha • Mar 29, 2007 2:10 am
gee...all because someone wont answer their phone.

What is the world comming to I ask you???!
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2007 8:21 pm
Talking on the phone forces everyone around you to listen to half a conversation. There is no way they can not hear it without sticking their fingers in their ears and humming. It's extremely rude and if you ask Miss manners or any of the other references, they'll tell you that.
Maui Nick • Apr 1, 2007 10:23 pm
freshnesschronic;326765 wrote:
HEY MOTHERFUCKERS!
ANSWER YOU'RE GODDAMN CELL PHONES!
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaallly dislike when people don't answer their cell phones and I dislike it even more when they give me a lame ass excuse like "uhhhh i didn't feel it....all day...." or "i didn't check it....all day"

WHAT THE FUCK DO U HAVE IT FOR???
stupid ass lame shit like that frustrates me
sorry, angry soapbox

God gave us cell phone's for a reason

C O M M U N I C A T I O N

I pay for it. I decide when I use it. Very simple.

It's not a bloody electronic leash --- it's a tool, like a screwdriver. I own it; it doesn't own me.
monster • Apr 1, 2007 10:34 pm
Maui Nick;329451 wrote:
I pay for it. I decide when I use it. Very simple.

It's not a bloody electronic leash --- it's a tool, like a screwdriver. I own it; it doesn't own me.



Welcome to the old fogies' club ;)
DanaC • Apr 2, 2007 6:32 pm
Yeah....pull up a comfy chair and a plaid rug *smiles*
Maui Nick • Apr 4, 2007 6:59 pm
monster;329459 wrote:
Welcome to the old fogies' club ;)


I'm the same way with the regular phone --- caller ID is a good thing. :D
rkzenrage • Apr 4, 2007 7:00 pm
RAMEN!
Cloud • Apr 4, 2007 7:02 pm
(hangs up)
celina • Apr 10, 2007 8:20 pm
lumberjim;326766 wrote:
god didnt give us cell phones, he gave us the brains to know when not to answer them because there's a looney calling.



lol :D
celina • Apr 10, 2007 8:21 pm
Maui Nick;330599 wrote:
I'm the same way with the regular phone --- caller ID is a good thing. :D


true. :worried:
celina • Apr 10, 2007 8:22 pm
I think it is rude at the point of being served, to stare blankly at the amount owed and hand a card over, as if the cashier is nothing more than a vending machine. Working in a supermarket isn't exactly a fulfilling job - it helps to have customers who talk to you, or at the very least acknowledge you.

I agree totally.
CzinZumerzet • Apr 14, 2007 6:16 am
Maui Nick;330599 wrote:
I'm the same way with the regular phone --- caller ID is a good thing. :D


Me too. I also decide if or not I answer the door if I am doing something I don't want interupted. And even if I'm not. There is no law says I have to go running whenever the doorbell rings so I don't, because in the society we live in, it won't be long before we get 'Doorbell Compulsion' legislation. It will happen once every single front door is on ubiquitous CCTV, and every back door too, and a disembodied voice will shout "Answer your door now or we send the door police round."

Make the most of the freedoms we have because they are going.