Canyon Eyesore
A mess.
This just disgusts me.
I actually think it's kind of cool. No way would I walk on it though.
But remember, everybody said the Eiffel Tower looked like crap when it was first built too.
I'd love to visit.
Unique, it is awesome. As a precedent it is worrisome.
Oh, I hate to admit I would love to walk on it. The idea of it disgusts me. As if someone broke anything precious in half, I would have to look inside, but mourn the loss of the beauty of the whole.
I can see my bowel movement from here!!!
How long befiore the first jumper? with or without chute?
How long befiore the first jumper? with or without chute?
With chute - one week.
Without chute - one month.
A mess.
This just disgusts me.
please. get over yourself
The tribe will include access to the deck in a variety of tour packages ranging from $49.95 to $199.00. They'll allow up to 120 people at a time to look down to the canyon floor more than 4,000 feet below, a vantage point more than twice as high as the world's tallest buildings.
"To me, I believe this is going to help us. We don't get any help from the outside, so, why not?" said Dallas Quasula Sr., 74, a tribal elder who was at the Skywalk. "This is going to be our bread and butter."
if the savages can eek a living out of whitey with it, then god bless em. why you gotta be trying to hold the red man down, rage?!
please. get over yourself
Coming from
you, hilarious, especially after my second post in this thread.
Thanks, I needed that this week.:p
IMO, this is the equivalent of building a casino on top of the rim of the canyon.
Perhaps we should build a restaurant around Old Faithful and boil lobsters in it?
I think it's silly. A gaudy tourist trap. I would never pay that kind of money to go on it. I'd probably be a bit afraid to anyway.
But I've got no problem with it. It's located in a very remote area of the canyon that I'd wager nobody here has ever visited before. It's nearly 100 miles outside the National Park Border, in a part of the canyon that is much smaller and (comparatively) less spectacular than where the National Park is. You have to drive for an hour or so on indian reservation dirt roads just to get to it.
It's their land, let them do what they want to with it. They have a hell of a lot better record taking care of this planet than we do.
For those of you with Google Earth, check out: lat 36.012 long -113.811 to see how far away it is from everything else.
It's a mile and a half down a side canyon from the river, so even rafters will have a hard time seeing it. They may be able to see it if their guides point it out, and they have good vision, but they won't see it otherwise.
But remember, everybody said the Eiffel Tower looked like crap when it was first built too.
It still does. But because it's now historic French crap, people seem to accept it better.
How long befiore the first jumper? with or without chute?
Personally, I'm waiting for the load limit to be exceeded. I love it. Didn't realize it was on a side canyon though.
I've been wondering, since they said they would build it a year or more ago, in a sandy environment how will they keep it from getting scratched so badly you won't be able to see through it?
I drove out to the Grand Canyon National Monument on the north rim, down stream from the Park. A couple hours, over dirt tracks, through absolutely barren wastes. At the rim there was nothing but a trash barrel and a sign saying don't fall in.
Unlike the Park where you can't see the river well because its a mile down and 3 or 4 miles out, at the monument you're looking right down at the river, more than a mile down.
Pucker power squared! :eek2:
I'm not losing any sleep over it but it is a defacement of the canyon and probably shouldn't have been built.
And the load limit is so high they will never exceed it. But at 4,000 feet up, you'd have about 20 seconds to say: "If I ever get my hands on that Beestie dude, I'm gonnaa..." before you went splat.
A defacement to the canyon? Do you know how big the canyon is? Christ, they don't even try to recover crashed aircraft. How far out in the middle of nowhere this is. Hours drive through nothing. Who owns this area? They do. How much better this is than any of the National park service rim projects. Orders of magnitude.
This wouldn't make a pimple on the ass of a flea, on a camel, on Noah's ark ,on the great flood as seen from Pluto. :smack:
I should be able to put my gum on the Mona Lisa... just on the corner though.
I think it's really cool--I hope they do very well from it.
A few members of the Hualapai Indian Tribe, which allowed the Grand Canyon Skywalk to be built, hopped up and down on the horseshoe-shaped structure. At its edge -- 70 feet beyond the rim -- the group peeked over the glass wall.
"I can hear the glass cracking!" Hualapai Chairman Charlie Vaughn said playfully.
That Chairman is a funny, funny man!
:worried:
Many Hualapai (pronounced WALL-uh-pie) worry about disturbing nearby burial sites, and environmentalists have blamed the tribe for transforming the majestic canyon into a tourist trap.
Oh, the irony.
I should be able to put my gum on the Mona Lisa... just on the corner though.
You can when you own it. I can already hear you bitching about people telling what you can/should or cannot/shouldn't do, with your own property. :rolleyes: From
here.
"I can hear the glass cracking."
Yeah, he's a barrel of fucking laughs.
Wall-uh-pie.
More like Canyon-floor-uh-pizza.
This will end badly.
Scale it? You can spit over it. More likely somebody falling off trying to whiz over it. :lol:
Scale it? You can spit over it. More likely somebody falling off trying to whiz over it. :lol:
Now look what you've done. I have to add that to my list of PIHP. (places I have pissed)
I've been wondering, since they said they would build it a year or more ago, in a sandy environment how will they keep it from getting scratched so badly you won't be able to see through it?
The floor is made of diamonds?
I should be able to put my gum on the Mona Lisa... just on the corner though.
Now that's just funny!
fabulous outdoor fucking spot!
Now look what you've done. I have to add that to my list of PIHP. (places I have pissed)
fabulous outdoor fucking spot!
PIHF!:p
fabulous outdoor fucking spot!
Just don't tell anyone you did it in the Grand Canyon. They might think you were talking about your partner. ;)
"Oh God, oh, oh oooooohhhhhhhh ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittt........ka---splat!!!"
Bungee jumping and parachute jumps.
I like it. I understand the valid complaints about cheapening the grandeur of the canyon, but hey...its gonna be just another rubble filled shallow depression in another billion years, so who's gonna know?
Ya, blah blah friggin blah let's pee over the side and we'll be done before it hits the mule train at the bottom.
Maybe YOU'LL be done when it hits the bottom, but I'll still be whizzin' when they get to the top. :o
ha, i could have filled the fuckin' thing up this morning....peed so long i got bored.
All 300 miles of it? :eek:
I think it's pretty damn ugly.. then again it's their land and they can do what they want with it.. which brings up a question.. what do you think are the nations/worlds ugliest 'landmarks?' (having only seen a good chunk of america, I can't actually comment on the rest of the world..).. personally I'm going to have to think about that one for a while...
I'm going out on a limb here and say that this contest was over before it started.
The Nathan Forrest
statue in Brentwood, Tennessee.
I was living there when it was put up and holy Lord is it hideous. The thing is on a stretch of private property that is next to I-65 and is surrounded by Confederate flags. You wanna talk about an eyesore.. "The horse and rider stand 25 feet high".. there ya go.
That is gonna be hard to beat.
"... it's as if the colorful Civil War general tumbled out of some horrific, injection mold nightmare."
That would be hilarious but no I don't think so. It looks to be a long outer coat that officers wore.
I'm going out on a limb here and say that this contest was over before it started.
The Nathan Forrest statue in Brentwood, Tennessee.
I was living there when it was put up and holy Lord is it hideous. The thing is on a stretch of private property that is next to I-65 and is surrounded by Confederate flags. You wanna talk about an eyesore.. "The horse and rider stand 25 feet high".. there ya go.
That is pretty ugly.
I can beat that four ways till sunday---but I don't know how to link the page!
Someone tell me how to do it and you can see the most hideous POS eyesore in America. The Giant Jesus in Monroe, Ohio, Solid Rock Church.
Oh wow Bri.. that's nuts.
Copy the URL from the address bar at the top of your browser, then click on the little blue globe with two chain links (it's right below the pale smilie face on the reply box tool-bar-ish thing). Paste, enter, BAM!
I can't get it to work! when I did manage to get it up there, the page said 'could not find'---help me out?
Oh, that is horrible. I think that is worse than the confederate dude.
It looks to me like what would happen if Jesus was a cartoon character. You, know...he was walking on the water, then realized what he was doing, and...splash!
Here y'go Bri
Am I the only one who keeps reading the title of this thread as 'Eeyore'?
The upraised arms familiar to "praise" service attendees conjures different images for locals, who refer to the big Savior as "Touchdown Jesus," or "Drowning Jesus."
I dunno... the Confederate sculpture is uglier, but the Jesus sculpture is larger and thus more attention-demanding. I just can't choose!
Maybe we need another field of 64 for this. Just in time for March Madness!
field of 64 - worst monuments/statues/tourist attractions/landmarks?
hm, it has potential...
Oh, Ibram, thank you v. much for doing that for me.
It's pretty scary, no?
The beautiful part about this whole monument and it's owner?
the monument was built using illegal immigrants (in an area that really hates illegals) and the owner/spiritual leader of Rock Solid Church? He's a known drug smuggler (he uses the horses on his huge horse farm), high school drop out and all-round shady guy.
But, hey.
That's how we like our Christians in Ohio: Dumb, crazy, involved in felonious activites and dedicated to a Giant Jesus. The fourfecta of the Ohio Christian Right!
It's pretty awe inspiring to drive by this Great Work. AND! It's right next door to the Flea Market! How cool/handy is that? I can pay my respects to Giant Jesus (please, don't smite me!) and then go buy quarts of apple butter, decorative toilet paper dollies and NASCAR bandanna's! It's a win-win!
I just realized that steel loop will make one hell of a lightning rod.
wow..I thought I had seen some ugly 'art' but that really takes the cake.. the candles and all the presents.
Which are you talking about?
The Confederate statue is horribly, horribly creepy. It is so obvious that it comes to life at night and stalks the back alleys in the area, killing the drunks and the homeless...
But I quite like Jesus in the Bath. If that was in my area I would have countless shots of myself high-fiving the Lord.
The Confederate statue is horribly, horribly creepy. It is so obvious that it comes to life at night and stalks the back alleys in the area, killing the drunks and the homeless...
It may be worse than you think. Forrest commanded the Confederate troops at Fort Pillow who killed a large number of Black troops. There is an argument over what went on but it is often interpreted as a massacre based on race.
HiJack! Griff I just finished Fort Pillow by Harry Turtledove. Wild guess,but I think Forrest had something to do with kkk.
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HiJack! Griff I just finished Fort Pillow by Harry Turtledove. Wild guess,but I think Forrest had something to do with kkk.
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:) good guess!
the monument was built using illegal immigrants !
Where'd they find glass-bottomed immigrants? Were they ground into a fine paste then molded and fired in a kiln? ;)
Wanted to see the new "thing" at the Grand Canyon , so we went this weekend. It is advertised as $25.00 to go out on the skywalk and the pictures show a beautiful building next to the walkway. Well; they are not quite "HONEST." It is $25.00 to go on the skywalk, but it is $50.00 to be on the reservation. You find this out after what they say is a 1 hour trip down a 57 mile dirt road. Wrong! this dirt road is 57 miles alright; the fastest you can go is 25 mph; you do the math!!!
So, after this long drive you get the good news it is $75.00 a person!! Chris said maybe we should forget it; I said after that road we are not coming back so get out the damn credit card out. Then you get on their bus for a 10 min ride to the "walkway"; built in one of the ugliest place on the whole Grand Canyon; not a tree to be seen and the water is gray below! Their building is not started, so you have a trailer to go into to go through a metal detector and leave your camera and purse in the trailer.
The walkway glass was cracked which lead me to believe they may have a few engineering glitches and I got my ass off the thing right away after seeing that! Believe me it is not as big or long as it looks on TV.
They do give you a buffet lunch, with your ticket, at "Guano" (means poop) Point. The Indians used to go over the cliff here to pick up bird shit to use for Makeup (war paint).You get to sit in one of the windiest places on earth to eat your chicken or ribs covered with blowing dirt. We passed on the lunch.
There are buses leaving every 10-15 min with 52 people on board at $75.00 per person $3,900.00 per bus from 8:00 am until 6:30 pm. That's $156,000.00 per day! I guess they are making a lot of money. They are flying people in from Vegas and Laughlin to go see this thing! I guess the Indians are smart; but not so honest about all the details of the activity.
We had to stop and change a tire for a young girl who took her grandparents out there. They had the right kind of car and good tires; but the road is terrible, they blew out the side wall of the tire. They must have hit the side of the road and a big rock. They did not know where the spare tire was and were completely helpless. The tow truck would have come out there but it would have been 2.5 hours and $400.00! The girl was very scared and grateful we stopped to help. Some guys stopped to ask if this was the right way to the Skywalk. Grandpa yelled out go back it is not worth it!!
One last detail, the hotel the Indians run to accommodate this adventure looks great online, but the sign at check in says "SINCE THE TRAINS COME BY EVERY 10 -15 MINS PLEASE ASK FOR THE FREE EAR PLUGS". We immediately canceled our reservations and made it to Kingman , AZ for the night. We got up at 6am and got the hell out of Arizona!
Bruce this isn't aimed at you. Just responding to whoever it is you quoted that from.
"You get to sit in one of the windiest places on earth to eat your chicken or ribs covered with blowing dirt."
It's the desert not the Hyatt...
"built in one of the ugliest place on the whole Grand Canyon; not a tree to be seen and the water is gray below!"
Perhaps you were expecting caribbean blue waters and palm trees?
"The tow truck would have come out there but it would have been 2.5 hours and $400.00!"
Yeah your in the middle of the fucking desert not around the corner from your local starbucks.
"I guess they are making a lot of money. They are flying people in from Vegas and Laughlin to go see this thing! I guess the Indians are smart; but not so honest about all the details of the activity."
Wha! Misrepresentation of a vacation site!? say it 'aint so! And by native americans no less? The shame. And god forbid they make some revenue off of this land!
"We got up at 6am and got the hell out of Arizona!"
Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
No offense taken, Ron.
I posted this because it's the only first-person experience I've run across. I didn't include a link because it's on a NSFW site and would add nothing more than I've posted... it's just some guy's opinion.
I see that the writer developed a negative attitude early on and really had no grasp of the territory he was venturing into. That said, probably many people going there would be in the same boat.
I was wondering if the writer was clueless or tripling the price, at a point where it takes considerable effort to get to, is really a common surprise.
I think I'd be pissed at that point, because were not talking $5 or $10, an extra $50 per person, for a family, is a shocker.
I'd assume the people flying in from Vegas would have the total cost presented up front, but those people would be better able to afford it than some guy trying to stretch the vacation buck with his family and a pop-up camper.
Personally, I hope it's a successful venture for the tribe, but feedback like this even taking into account the whiny source, is off putting. Especially for an experience it takes so much effort to get to, as opposed to a roadside attraction.
I hope it is just a whiny post from someone who didn't pay attention to what he was getting into. I hope it's just teething problems. I will go to the US one day and I've really love the idea of this since I first read it. And it's a challenge to my fear of heights!
Anyway - if the prices are misrepresented in the way described then I expect someone will sue soon - even over here Trading Standards would be onto it with a week, and I know Americans are more litigious. I hope the price goes down in the time it takes me to save to make the trip...
It was unfair of the OP to include the experience of the trip with the blowout as part of his criticism. If the vehicle was suitable for the terrain then the blowout was simple bad luck that could have happened anywhere. You can't blame people who build an attraction in the wilderness if the wilderness bites back (or for the fact that two generations in the same family can't handle a burst tyre).
She's going back to the Jesus statue in Bri's vicinity.
if you're talking about municipal eyesores, we got one. It's attractive enough, I suppose, but it's caused all kinds of bitter controversy. I haven't seen the statute yet, tho' I saw the head. It's a BIG sucker!
World's Largest Equestrian Bronze
a better picI am sure those are not pteranodons in the picture.
I'm an acrophobe. It'd be hard to get me out on that thing, I think.
I hope it is just a whiny post from someone who didn't pay attention to what he was getting into. I hope it's just teething problems. I will go to the US one day and I've really love the idea of this since I first read it. And it's a challenge to my fear of heights!
Anyway - if the prices are misrepresented in the way described then I expect someone will sue soon - even over here Trading Standards would be onto it with a week, and I know Americans are more litigious. I hope the price goes down in the time it takes me to save to make the trip...
It was unfair of the OP to include the experience of the trip with the blowout as part of his criticism. If the vehicle was suitable for the terrain then the blowout was simple bad luck that could have happened anywhere. You can't blame people who build an attraction in the wilderness if the wilderness bites back (or for the fact that two generations in the same family can't handle a burst tyre).
Poor roads and lack of local service are reasonable criticisms of a trip/placement.
Poor roads and lack of local service are reasonable criticisms of a trip/placement.
But the poster said the vehicle was suitable for the terrain.
Let me put it this way to you - a Brit is crossing Death Valley and comes across another party of Brits who have a blowout. They complain about how long it takes for rescue to reach them given how long it takes in the UK. You'd laugh out loud at how naif they were.
Also there are two generations in the car - would you not think, "Hang on, how come a couple who are
at least in their 40s have set off across desert terrain have no idea if they have a spare tyre?"
C'mon - you're usually consistent regarding people being personally responsible - don't let your dislike of the attraction change your opinion.
Poor roads and lack of local service are reasonable criticisms of a trip/placement.
Not really, its the same as driving through the mountains to get to a white water rafting joint. You are responsible to make sure you are prepared to drive out into the middle of nothing for the attraction, and make it back to civilization afterwards. It is in no way the responsibility of the attraction owners unless they make it appear so or state such.
You are correct, I was wrong.
Unless they do not state that you need special vehicles for the roads.
I'm not sure if the story xoBruce found was from the same website, but I found a photographer's blog detailing a visit to the Skywalk. The post was followed by a plethora of comments, many from folks who had visited themselves. From what I read, some of them were prepared and liked it, others were not and hated it. I'd post the link, but if blatant racist remarks (as some of the comments were) are considered NSFW, then I probably shouldn't. :(
They had the right kind of car and good tires; but the road is terrible, they blew out the side wall of the tire. They must have hit the side of the road and a big rock. They did not know where the spare tire was and were completely helpless.
Not knowing where the author is from, makes me wonder what constitutes a terrible road to him? Anyone remotely familiar with the west, would know the reservation roads, like most private roads, are generally rough.
This is a case of being unprepared. There might be some reason she couldn't physically change a tire, but not knowing where it is, makes me think she wouldn't know how. Certainly not prepared to trek the hinterlands or anywhere else that requires self-reliance.
If she had a blowout on the interstate she'd be in the same boat. Help shouldn't take as long ... but might be as expensive.
No, not the same site. What's the link?
Where's Tonchi been lately? She could tell us about REAL terrible roads.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
At 10:48 AM on April 9, 2007 Maggie Leber said:
"'people were dropping their cameras and cracking the glass' and they did not want to be liable 'if someone dropped their camera over the edge'"
What a load of BS. More likely they want to have a special additional charge for professional photographers.
If you can crack their glass by dropping a camera, you really shouldn't walk on it... :-)
You have to go over miles of bad gravel road to get to Tent Rocks, which is also on a reservation.
It's worth it.
