February 19, 2007: Ivrea, Italy food fight with oranges

Undertoad • Feb 19, 2007 1:54 pm
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IotD always covers the Tomatina tomato food fight in Spain. Well, how about an food fight with oranges in Italy? That's what the Carnevale di Ivrea is, and it's on the same scale as Tomatina but with harder-hitting fruit.

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The backstory is better in this festival. It's a 13th Century tale of a young lass named Violetta, and the rude Marquis Raineri de Biandrate.

The Marquis, it turns out, was in the habit of taking the virginity of all eligible young women before they would be married.

He stole Violetta away on the night before her wedding. But this time, when he showed her to the citizenry from the castle balcony, the townspeople became enraged. Defending her honor, they stormed the castle and burned it to the ground.

Now when the situation is recreated, the oranges represent the head of the Marquis, and the juice represents his blood. It seems like they would get better mileage out of tomatoes, like Tomatina. But you go to symbolic war with the metaphors you have, not the metaphors you might want, or wish you had at a later time. This town has oranges, so there it is.

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The fight is fierce, and the aftermath is quite bloody. Notice the banners and colors for different teams. There are nine teams in all, and they are judged. Unlike Tomatina, the spectators are theoretically protected from getting hit with wayward fruit. Because that would sting!

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Elspode • Feb 19, 2007 2:43 pm
Orange you glad you didn't get that juice in your eyes?
Sheldonrs • Feb 19, 2007 2:57 pm
They all look pithed.
Cloud • Feb 19, 2007 3:01 pm
well, but are they blood oranges?
barefoot serpent • Feb 19, 2007 3:23 pm
Italy has always been known for it's navel warfare.
Sheldonrs • Feb 19, 2007 4:22 pm
Maybe this was just a pit stop.
monster • Feb 19, 2007 4:48 pm
I don't see the appeel.
Undertoad • Feb 19, 2007 4:50 pm
Why not? Clearly these people have a zest for life!
monster • Feb 19, 2007 5:04 pm
But don't juicy that people are getting hurt?
Elspode • Feb 19, 2007 5:11 pm
Looks to me like they'd C that they were getting beaten to a pulp out there.

If someone was running at me with an orange, I'd tell them, "Citrus right down and stay still!"
Flint • Feb 19, 2007 5:12 pm
The orange fight is really . . . d'oh!
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 19, 2007 6:14 pm
Don't they know there are children in Biafra swallowing pebbles to stave off hunger pangs. Think of the children. :rolleyes:
Sheldonrs • Feb 19, 2007 6:55 pm
Not a battle for the weak. Only vital men C the glass as half full.
monster • Feb 19, 2007 7:12 pm
pipped to the pun there.....
Sheldonrs • Feb 19, 2007 7:28 pm
I understand the pits are the real tasty prize. But, If at first you don't suck seed...
milkfish • Feb 19, 2007 7:28 pm
Half a Euro per kilo (or chilo) seems really, really cheap to me. Maybe they're nasty-tasting fruit.
monster • Feb 19, 2007 7:33 pm
looks like those fruit orange -pardy
cooties • Feb 20, 2007 10:22 am
I hope they kept a watch on the rind.
TheCaretaker • Feb 20, 2007 12:53 pm
Those teams sure view each other with a jaundiced eye.

... at least for safety's sake they're wearing blaze o_____.


May the lord have mercy on my soul.
Shawnee123 • Feb 20, 2007 1:32 pm
oranges poranges nothing rhymes with oranges
monster • Feb 20, 2007 1:42 pm
Orange is another one of those words I cannot pronounce American-style. Well I think I can if I try hard enough, but my kids just laugh at me.
TheCaretaker • Feb 20, 2007 1:48 pm
Don't forget sporange, Shawnee, it's a pack of spores. Like a seed pod.

I just realized.
Especially with the football pads, all they need is to use one white bronco instead of two brown horses to make an artful re-staging of OJ Simpson's arrest.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 20, 2007 11:02 pm
Shawnee123;317179 wrote:
oranges poranges nothing rhymes with oranges
Door hinges.:rolleyes:
monster • Feb 20, 2007 11:34 pm
xoxoxoBruce;317310 wrote:
Door hinges.:rolleyes:


I rest my case. :rolleyes:
Sundae • Feb 21, 2007 1:00 pm
monster;317183 wrote:
Orange is another one of those words I cannot pronounce American-style. Well I think I can if I try hard enough, but my kids just laugh at me.

I give up. How on earth do Americans pronounce orange then?
I've been trying as many different ways as I can think of and they all seem improbable....
barefoot serpent • Feb 21, 2007 2:08 pm
as in Home on the O'______.

;)
Undertoad • Feb 21, 2007 2:09 pm
Orangeyouthecuriousone.
monster • Feb 22, 2007 12:07 am
Sundae Girl;317471 wrote:
I give up. How on earth do Americans pronounce orange then?
I've been trying as many different ways as I can think of and they all seem improbable....


Well Bruce was alarmingly close with his door hinges. But I can't even do it, let alone describe it! :lol:

However, never one to resist a challenge (and all y'all in the chosen land please remember I'm surrounded by Michigandans, Canucks and U of M students, so when it comes to representing the whole of the county ymmv.....)

Say "oar" and then try to picture that the sound is above your tongue towards the back of the mouth. Now say it again, but put the sound under the tongue (this may make you push your chin forward) and breath out as you say it. Then say Eng as in engineering -exactly as you would say it in engineering -same stress.

It's bizarre that such a simple word should be so hard, but kids make great litmus paper and mine assure me that orange is a word that reveals me as a foreigner. (Squirrel and Mirror are the other two that come to mind right now)
milkfish • Feb 22, 2007 2:26 pm
Go to the relevant page on Merriam Webster and click on one of the two little red speaker symbols. I think my pronunciation is a little closer to the first one, but I probably use both interchangeably myself.
monster • Feb 22, 2007 3:13 pm
yes, that first one is pretty similar to what I hear round here. Perhaps a little more stress on the first syllable. It's the vowels that cause me the grief. I know, I'm strange.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 22, 2007 11:14 pm
Oar-an-jez. :D
seakdivers • Feb 23, 2007 12:16 am
or-inj
Undertoad • Feb 23, 2007 8:30 am
Arrnge
Trilby • Feb 23, 2007 9:12 am
Once again I am envious of another country because: They have an annual village-wide food fight (doesn't have to be food, though, the Japanese have an annual town-wide water pistol fight that I also envy) AND because it's based on murdering a lecherous noble. Though, to be honest, I rather like my nobles lecherous. The more lecherous, the better, I say.
Clodfobble • Feb 23, 2007 11:43 am
But do you like your lechers to be noble?
Kingswood • Feb 23, 2007 9:14 pm
Sundae Girl;317471 wrote:
I give up. How on earth do Americans pronounce orange then?
I've been trying as many different ways as I can think of and they all seem improbable....


In two ways: ORE-inj and AR-inj (as in ARm) There may be other pronunciations but my reference doesn't list them.

At least they're not throwing beetroot. Beetroot stains are almost impossible to remove.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 23, 2007 11:25 pm
I was hoping my ex would beetroot, but nooooooo, the stains were atrocious.:cool: