08ama!
It begins.
Obama to form exploratory committee for presidential run
Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday he is taking the initial step in a presidential bid that could make him the nation's first black to occupy the White House.
Obama announced on his Web site, www.barackobama.com, that he was filing a presidential exploratory committee. He said he would announce more about his plans in his home state of Illinois on Feb. 10.
"I certainly didn't expect to find myself in this position a year ago," Obama said in a video posting. "I've been struck by how hungry we all are for a different kind of politics. So I've spent some time thinking about how I could best advance the cause of change and progress that we so desperately need."
Take your pick.
I am looking forward to this.
08AMA!
Anything or anyone is better than Billary.
I'm leaning towards Biden right now, he seems to have things together, but we'll see in time who's the better custodian to clean up after W.
Oh my, Biden??? Biden?? - Thats perfect, I like that I like that a lot.
Go Joe
the nation's first black to occupy the White House.
Can I just say that I hate the use of "black" as a noun? Why can't they just add a single extra word, "the nation's first black
man to occupy the White House?"
I'd totally vote Obama if i could vote, unless Edwards runs.
I don't think he's ready.:headshake
When does any candidate answer this question: When do we go after bin Laden? This is a question asked to identify anti-Americans. How do they respond? They remain quiet (because they are equally as scummy as a president they worship).
Bin Laden survives because .... 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management.
I'm leaning towards Biden right now, he seems to have things together, but we'll see in time who's the better custodian to clean up after W.
We haven't all forgotten about the plagarism scandal, you know.
I hadn't heard about that before wolf, just googled it and it won't keep him from my vote. I see the leading potential in him and that is what matters in a presidential candidate.
Biden, WIKI;
After Biden withdrew from the race, it was learned that he had correctly credited Kinnock on other occasions but failed to do so in an Iowa speech that was recorded and distributed to reporters by aides to Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee. Dukakis fired the senior aide responsible, but the damage had already been done to Biden. [7] [8]
It had also been alleged that Biden had plagiarized while in law school 20 years earlier in a first-year legal-writing class. Unaware of appropriate standards for legal briefs at the beginning of his legal training, Biden used a single footnote rather than multiple citations required to cite five pages from a legal article. Both Syracuse University Law School and the Delaware State Bar Association cleared Biden of plagiarism charges.
I'm more concerned about the two brain aneurysms. :eyebrow:
I grew up in DE, and I've actually met Joe several times. There are a lot of good things to say about him, but I won't say any of them. Just cuz he's a democrat and tw pissed me off :D
tw's not a democrat. tw's an anti-.:lol:
tw's not a democrat. tw's an anti-.:lol:
Ha!
Can I just say that I hate the use of "black" as a noun? Why can't they just add a single extra word, "the nation's first black man to occupy the White House?"
I thought that was Bill Klitoon`s claim to fame?
By saying "first black" they cover both sexes with less verbage. ;)
While on Meet the Press this morning, Sen Ted Kennedy pledged his support to John Kerry, who has not even entered the race.
Hillary enjoys the top spot in the polls at this point.
Other strong candidates like Bill Richardson and John Edwards are in the race.
Why would the party look to an inexperienced newcomer like Obama?
Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't.
The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.
well.. so much for that graphics I had been working on... "Vision 2020 Clinton/Obama".. or it's "As easy as ABC America for Barak and Clinton".. the actual graphics are on my other computer.. and it's all the way over there...
and as long as brownback stays far far away from the oval office I won't be all that violently upset.
Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't.
The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.
Is The Cellar endorsing here?
You'll have to ask them, I don't speak for the Cellar whatsoever.
I want to run as a "crazy cracker", see what happens.
I am so indifferent I couldn't care less....
I want to run as a "crazy cracker", see what happens.
It's been done.tw's not a democrat. tw's an anti-.:lol:
I'm still thinking "LaRouchie" where tw's concered.
I am so indifferent I couldn't care less....
And yet you felt compelled to post.
Jello should run again, this time for president.
I would vote for him in a second.
Jello should run again, this time for president.
I would vote for him in a second.
He's got some REALLY out there ideas. :crazy:
Jello should run again, this time for president.
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Hahahahah, sorry, I've been meaning to change it to something less obtrusive for a while.
Perhaps the nutball from the
Natural Law Party, John Hagelin, will throw his tinfoil hat in the ring again?
Perhaps the nutball from the Natural Law Party, John Hagelin, will throw his tinfoil hat in the ring again?
:tinfoil:
tw's not a democrat. tw's an anti-.:lol:
I think on a personal level he's anti-fun, too. Like being personally opposed to abortion but not willing to prevent someone else from having one.
Though the occasional minor chink
has appeared in this wall...:cool:
I suppose the reason Lyndon LaRouche isn't once again a perpetual candidate is because of that felony conviction for credit card fraud.
Is The Cellar endorsing here?
You betcha!
By the way, Undertoad, how can I see the
calendar items? I can only see birthdays. I am certain this is a classic case of operator error.
Thanks in advance.
You have to jump to November 2008, and note the 4th.
You betcha!
Who will Obama pick as his running-mate?
You have to jump to November 2008, and note the 4th.
Thanks!
More Obama!
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Lyrics herei've seen that somewhere... but i can't remember where.
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bwhahahahahahaha!!!!!
Who will Obama pick as his running-mate?
Louis Farrakhan.
Louis Farrakhan.
Frankly I prefer
Chuck D Ridenhour. Same ideology, better speaker and younger. That is if Obama were Muslim, which he isn't.
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Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't.
The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.
I'm finally making up my mind. Virginia's election is Tuesday, and I'm gonna vote for Sen. Obama. I've had several thoughts about this but it all boils down to UT's quote above from over a year ago.
I think conservatives aren't too fond of McCain, and are less likely to vote in the general election because of that. But if Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee, they will all get out to the polls just to vote against her. Obama doesn't generate that kind of hatred. It's the "Billary" and "Hitlery Cliton" etc. comments here on the Cellar that have really opened my eyes. You conservatives really hate her.
I don't think she has been treated fairly at all, but the reality is the reality. You can't pretend it isn't there. I doubt she can win in the general election against McCain, and even if she does win, she will face serious obstruction beginning her first day in office. She would have to fight for every scrap as President. There would be no honeymoon.
Remember all the protesters at Bush's first inaugural parade? I don't think that had ever happened before. You will have that again if Clinton becomes president. I really don't want a polarized country any more. I'm sick of it.
So I'm voting for Obama. He's not the magnet for hate that Sen. Clinton is. Plus, he's inspiring. That counts for a lot.
All that and he at least seems genuine....
for many of the same reasons, this conservative independent voted for him as well.
I AM FED UP AGAIN/STILL.
snip~ But if Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee, they will all get out to the polls just to vote against her. Obama doesn't generate that kind of hatred. It's the "Billary" and "Hitlery Cliton" etc. comments here on the Cellar that have really opened my eyes. You conservatives really hate her. ~snip
I think that's important. Going by the very unscientific method of counting the emails that mock and vilify Clinton, I'd say there is a very active hate Hillery movement.
if Hillary gets the nod, McCain will win. Not because the conservatives like him, but because she will unite them. It will be much like the D's in '04. Most D's deep down didn't care much for Kerry, but rallied behind him because of the deep hatred for Bush. The main difference is that the R's have much more effective vehicles for rallying the troops. Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Ingram, Coulter, and the rest will work night and day to defeat Hillary even though not a single one of them likes McCain. They have 8 years in the White House + her senate years to use as ammo in their quest to fire up the fear.
Obama just doesn't pull that type of reaction. Although he may in fact be further to the left than Hillary, he doesn't have all the baggage. The R machine will still try to rally the troops but they won't be able to stir up as much animosity. I expect that an Obama nod would see many conservatives just skip the election entirely figuring that McCain isn't much different than Obama so there really isn't any point. I would expect an Obama win.
If you don't believe me, consider that Rush has already been talking on those lines. He has suggested contributing to the Clinton campaign in the lead up to the convention. Sure he may be a reactionist jackass, but he has a following.
Our problem with Hillary is that her political instincts were molded by Saul Alinsky and developed in a one-party state, the state being Arkansas, to produce a boomer Socialist. I'm a late boomer myself by most reckonings of the baby boom generation, and I escaped that fate, lucky me. If they don't nominate her, that will help shut her up and save the Republic into the bargain. If they do, it will be my exquisite pleasure, and what I conceive to be my duty to my Republic, to vote against her. Since I don't live in New York, I haven't previously had the opportunity. She embodies the approach to the Nanny State that contaminates the entire upper echelon of the Democratic Party and grates upon my libertarian sensibilities. And if Obama's any better about that, I have not heard word one about it.
He's charming and well spoken, but so was la Clinton's husband. It was really too bad how that one kept enough of the electorate fooled to give him a second term of office instead of the turning out his character made him deserve. We can thank Heaven he didn't get to do a good many of the things he wanted to do.
I'm finally making up my mind. Virginia's election is Tuesday, and I'm gonna vote for Sen. Obama. I've had several thoughts about this but it all boils down to UT's quote above from over a year ago.
I think conservatives aren't too fond of McCain, and are less likely to vote in the general election because of that. But if Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee, they will all get out to the polls just to vote against her. Obama doesn't generate that kind of hatred. It's the "Billary" and "Hitlery Cliton" etc. comments here on the Cellar that have really opened my eyes. You conservatives really hate her.
I don't think she has been treated fairly at all, but the reality is the reality. You can't pretend it isn't there. I doubt she can win in the general election against McCain, and even if she does win, she will face serious obstruction beginning her first day in office. She would have to fight for every scrap as President. There would be no honeymoon.
Remember all the protesters at Bush's first inaugural parade? I don't think that had ever happened before. You will have that again if Clinton becomes president. I really don't want a polarized country any more. I'm sick of it.
So I'm voting for Obama. He's not the magnet for hate that Sen. Clinton is. Plus, he's inspiring. That counts for a lot.
I have conservative views on some issues, liberal views on others. I voted for Bush twice as the best bad choice from two very bad choices. Bush turned out to be a idiot and a sock puppet for the people under him. I can't stand
Hitlery and will do my best to convince others that she is not the answer to our future as a country. I voted for Obama in the primary.
More on Hitlery:
Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her record,' which she says includes her eight years in the "White House" as First Lady - or "co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes:.
As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)
Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno. Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.'
Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be
withdrawn.
Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department,
White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster allegedly committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to
resign.
Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committeein 1996 both the drug use and Hillary' s involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years.
In order to open 'slots' in the White House for her friends the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.
Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the
appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury
Bill was impeached by the House and Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice. She avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times
under oath.
Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state where she had never lived. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support.
Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.
Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen.
In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "gender card" by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on a poor woman.
Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)
As a Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.
Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.
Quite a resume, isn't it? Sounds more like an organized crime family.
:::yawn::: You could write a list like that for any politician, if sufficiently motivated...but it doesn't answer the question: what is the motivation? It's like saying "I hate Hillary bad enough to make this list of reasons why I hate her, which are why I hate her, which is why I made the list, and then when I read the list, I realized who much I hate her, so I made this list..." etc.
I don't give a shit about Hillary, but I've that you can't get into a conversation about her without the person you're talking to shouting at you about why you should hate her, if you didn't express sufficient hate in your original, casual mention of her.
Hitting the nail on the head as usual, Flint. I got dirty looks last night because I wouldn't concede Billary to be assholic, and because I STILL don't give a fuck about a blow job. These looks came from people who don't read or research. They just know we're all supposed to hate the Clintons.
...people who don't read or research.
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I don't give a shit about Hillary.
We agree on that much. Well that and the fact that she is running for President. I guess some people just don't see it as important. That's cool.
You all may not think any of those bullet points are important in measuring the abilities of someone who wants to be President, that is fine as well.
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lmao...perfect!
Well West Virginia and Kentucky are strange places. Isolation will do that to them.
Wow, google returns a large number of websites devoted to Bush's lies and deceit about everything even remotely related to his administration. Lists are not hard to come by, no matter who you hate.
Well West Virginia and Kentucky are strange places. Isolation will do that to them.
how do you think they'd respond to immolation?
how do you think they'd respond to immolation?
That would be a hot topic. Maybe should ask the Hatfields and McCoys?
Well that and the fact that she is running for President. I guess some people just don't see it as important. That's cool.
oooooo sick burn
But, I must have missed your copy/pasted list of batshit conspiracy theories about all the other presidential candidates.
strange exchange for three people who all voted for the same guy.
strange exchange for three people who all voted for the same guy.
What are you talking about again? Who three? What guy? When? Am I here? Is this thing on?
oooooo sick burn
But, I must have missed your copy/pasted list of batshit conspiracy theories about all the other presidential candidates.
But I don't care about the other ones.:D
He's a uniter!
LOL - yeah apparently not in teh cellar. lol
What are you talking about again? Who three? What guy? When? Am I here? Is this thing on?
You were one of the three - so quit yer bitchin! :rolleyes:
strange exchange for three people who all voted for the same guy.
You were one of the three - so quit yer bitchin!
VOTED FOR WHAT?
Arggghhhhhhhhhhh ;)
Seriously classic...help me out I'm really confused. If it's because I'm stupid I can take it...I just don't get the comment/connection.
Aren't most people here talking about how they like Obama but still managing to find a way to argue about it, even though they agree on the same guy?
Apparently there is no connection.
yes glatt, thats what I was eluding to in my previous post.
1,170 to 1,168.
...1,170 to 1,168!
and thats counting superdelegates!
Is it just me or has the media already elected this guy.
The media wants to get on with the election, and skip the conventions.
Except for Fox News, the media follows the polls even better than the politicians.
The media seemed to be obsessed with Hillary up until just recently.
When it comes to politics, Fox News is proactive.
Except for Fox News, the media follows the polls even better than the politicians.
The media seemed to be obsessed with Hillary up until just recently.
Ohh I think they became disenchanted with her weeks ago. Obama has been the more exciting storyline.
Prior to the primary process kicking off Clinton had seemed the appointed one. If you follow the tone in a paper known for its liberal lean, The NYT, it is quite obvious that even the press followed this notion that she would be the nominee. I think there has been a shift in this tone as the primary process has evolved. They have discovered what many of us have been saying for a long time, Ms. Clinton is a divider and many people in the Democratic party really do not like her or her group of supporters. Much of her underbelly of power hunger has been exposed through the years. To me Obama brings a fresh face to the race. We need to remember that it is not so much who sits in the White House that matters, as it is that the people the individual surrounds themselves with are of quality and can advise to the appropriate course of action in times of crisis as well as calm.
The media wants to get on with the election, and skip the conventions.
The media could give a rat's ass about the election or the conventions or whatever *as long as you're watching, especially the commercials*.
You'll do well to keep this in mind as you allocate your eyeball minutes this election season.
Allllll that talk about how expensive campaigning is? I'll tell you this, the cost of yard signs isn't the biggest expense. It's not office space rental. It's AIR TIME. The candidates, all of them with no exceptions, have to raise
buxor to be able to be heard/seen. And that means media exposure. $$$$.
You do the math.
Sure, the process and the eventual (inevitable outcome--*somebody's* gonna be President) is important. But along the way, their main goal, their commercial imperative, is to make money. Their sole stock in trade is airtime.
Speaking of campaign signs...
When I voted yesterday, I noticed a sign as I walked up to the building. It said something along the lines of no campaigning or handing out literature past this point. I went in, voted, came back out. As I walked back to my car, past this sign, there was another sign, for Huckabee. I scratched my head, not remembering seeing it as I walked in. I got in my car and as I was driving away there was a young woman planting the Huckabee signs. Thus I wasn't crazy - the sign hadn't been there before. Anway, I found this odd. First, there were no other signs for any other candidate in/around the government complex where I voted. Second, it was in the afternoon, raining/icing, and getting dark. Why bother with the signs that late into the day?
For the 9 to 5 crowd, that votes on their way home.
yes haunting....someone else has that ....disturbing ...THING
When I ask people what comes after change nobody knows. Are we having change for change sake? Just ask'in.
I'm not even thinking about after change, I want to know what changes?
yes, exactly.
When I ask people "what changes?" they repeat the word "change" I say,"go on" they say "just that change" I say, "OK" one word isn't good enough for my vote.
The only people that can afford the ideal of change without substance is the affluent and that is where this movement is comming from . oh and the knee jerk reaction from the african american community to percieved racial attacks. 8 to 1 vote obama on the basis of skin color.
I'm sorry but the style of the handshakes over 'Change' look familiar. From what reference was the above picture? From '1984' or something?
The "Change" motto makes me think of
this post at Cosmic Variance:
Still, as a physicist it bugs me. I can’t hear the motto without thinking: change in what direction? The reason why this is such a great political slogan is because anyone can project onto it whatever kind of “change” they most prefer. But it’s highly unlikely that generic change would be a good thing. In the phase space of political configurations, one must imagine that the subspace of “good” configurations (however you want to define them) is one of fairly low-entropy — there are far more ways to have an ineffective or actively dangerous government than to have a good one.
If that’s true, and you just adopt “change” as your motto, you are far more likely to make things worse than to make them better. It’s just the Second Law of Political Dynamics, people.
I'm still supporting Obama, though.
I'm still supporting Obama, though.
After all that discussion and then your conclusion, wanna elaborate on why, please.
Simple. I'm a liberal, leftist-pinko-commie. :p
Oh, you mean "Why not Clinton?"
She's too tuned into the poll-of-the-moment. I still haven't forgiven her for voting to approve Bush's invasion of Iraq.
I also like the externally-apparent political symbol embodied in electing a president with the middle name "Hussein".
I haven't heard him saying too much I disagree with (yet), so what's not to like?
I didn't say there was or wasn't. I was just curious about your opinion.
The above caption is from the
Aspen Times Weekly.
The column is a good example of the venom Hillery attracts.
Here's the end of the column....
He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.
There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.
He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.
Shit, I didn't realize I was an "Angry White Man." I am usually a pretty happy go lucky sort.
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And it's my invasion too, Pie. I like busting totalitarians, you lack my enthusiasm for the things that are proper to do.
Shit, I didn't realize I was an "Angry White Man." I am usually a pretty happy go lucky sort.
Did you check out the link to see if you fit the rest of the profile?
I've been a AWM for a long time now. The article describes why when I can't express those same thoughts and beliefs many times.
"The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him"
Add "entitlement".
The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.
Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”
He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.
He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.
Well, I hate to say it, but I fit a lot of this profile. I may not be the rugged ruff & tumble guy, but I do my share - aside from that I think the auther is pretty much describing me.
Now that I know the problem - what is the cure?
I am voting for McCain. We don't know what would happen if we just pulled the troops out of Iraq. I mean, if we do it now, the terrorists are mad we attacked them and won, and will aswell attack us w/ another tragedy like 911.
Well I am pretty torn about whether to even vote in the Washington primary tomorrow. When the choice has been taken away from me as to whether I have a say in delegate votes (the state has already said our vote will not count) why go to the polls then? To what end?
Pretty pissed about that one.
I am voting for McCain. We don't know what would happen if we just pulled the troops out of Iraq. I mean, if we do it now, the terrorists are mad we attacked them and won, and will aswell attack us w/ another tragedy like 911.
What we do while withdrawing from Iraq of course is to focus on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border, something Bush and McCain forgot to do.
And why the vote in Washington won't count? Oh, among Republicans.
And why the vote in Washington won't count? Oh, among Republicans.
Republican votes count. Dems do not. The Dems have decided that the caucuses chose the delegates.
So Tink, why not go to a caucus?
Just in case I hadn't mentioned it so far, it's a lot of the same ol' same ol'... just as it's been since 1991, the Democrats still aren't peddling a single idea I want to buy, or couldn't get a better version of from either the Libertarians or the Republicans. And the Republicans are better than the Democrats and the Libertarians put together at winning a war.
That will likely remain true for a generation.
So Tink, why not go to a caucus?
I was in Vegas for work. Otherwise I would have. This is a first for the state. Totally sucks. BigV went but currently we are voting for different folks. I could have cancelled him out. Shit! :)
And the Republicans are better than the Democrats and the Libertarians put together at *starting* a war.
We don't know what would happen if we just pulled the troops out of Iraq. I mean, if we do it now, the terrorists are mad we attacked them and won, and will aswell attack us w/ another tragedy like 911.
Which is why extremists call them terrorists. They are insurgents. When American troops leave, then the numerous parties in that civil war must decide to fight or compromise. Of course, the so called 'terrorists' - Sahdr's Mahdi army - has gone quiet. A ceasefire. Arming, recruiting, and training for the eventual conclusion to that civil war. Terrorists? Classic mental midget propaganda. Sahdr is reported to be in Qom doing long neglected religious study. His army has all but taken Baghdad and is now awaiting the conclusion of what is only a civil war.
Since Sahdr and others have decided to wait out for the eventual conclusion, then George Jr can claim a mythical Al Qaeda has been defeated.
Deja vue Nam when the US government also declared victory following Tet. The year following Tet also was declared proof of an American victory while combatants were only recruiting, rearming, and rebuilding. Vietnam also was only a civil war despite rhetoric from the American government that said otherwise. If we don't stop them in Nam, then we will be next. How many times do we blindly believe the little boy who cries "Wolf"? Iraq is in civil war. If you don't grasp that, then you become fodder for extremists. "Domino Theory" also justified a war where the enemy of the people was more often a S Vietnamese government. Again, civil war.
And why was there a domino in the first place? Because the US inadvertently propped some such hideous governments (such as Pol Pot in Cambodia) that the Communist Vietnemese had to intervene.
Sorry, Flint: you should check back on which President got Vietnam going and which President unsuccessfully escalated it.
I don't think you did a good job of "fixing."
Ann Coulter was right about the Democrats' penchant for making war unsuccessfully, you know. Either a no-victory situation, or a unilateral and not necessarily accurate declaration that the war was unwinnable. Don't complain about starting wars -- not against the sort of people we fight with, who are invariably totalitarian scum determined to perpetrate abuses and inhuman regimes. Complain about losing wars to such wretches. We don't get in brawls with decent places that have democracies. That seems to be an essential, to my way of thinking.
Making war unsuccessfully like WW2 and Bosnia. And I suppose the GOP wars just as well(Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, easy wars that turn into 'hard slogs', particularly the last 2).
As far as I'm concerned Ann revises history just like her friend Dinesh D'Souza.
As registered democrat I am voting for McCain. It is my thinking that Obama can't win the debates. I am thinking the independants will come off their emotional high they will move right to the McCain camp.
I could be wrong and this strong emotialism continues and people won't use their brains AGAIN when chosing a canadate and they chose personality over substance because bush too said he was going to be a uniter and not a divider and he ( obama ) brings bad tidings then what?
I am so upset with the Hilary campain. If was hers to lose. :( grr
The Heath Ledger Joker might be more appropriate (man, that look is more radical than Halle Barry's Catwoman, but it is somehow working).
You have to have Obama hold papers while smiling to get a look-alike picture.
Ledger doesn't have the right head shape. Neither does Jack.
It begins.
Take your pick.
I am looking forward to this.
08AMA!
I am proud to be an American.
Quite right too. I am envious of everything this says about your nation.
It begins.
Take your pick.
I am looking forward to this.
08AMA!
#nostalgia