hello

Phil • Dec 17, 2006 8:05 am
hi. i didnt notice a place for new members to introduce themselves, so i chose this section. hope thats ok.
my name is Phil, married, 2 kids 23 yr old daughter, 21 yr old son. i love photography and will undoubtedly be boring you with some pics in the future.
i was referred here by a very good online friend from Florida.
nice to meet you all.
:cool:
Ibby • Dec 17, 2006 8:09 am
Rzkenrage? Which Floridian?

Welcome!
Beestie • Dec 17, 2006 9:31 am
Kitsune?

Welcome to the Cellar. It was just a matter of time, you know.

:borg:
Phil • Dec 17, 2006 11:25 am
Ibram wrote:
Rzkenrage? Which Floridian?

Welcome!



yep, our dear Rob.
thank you for the welcome. :)
fargon • Dec 17, 2006 11:33 am
Phil, Welcome aboard.
Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here!
Phil • Dec 17, 2006 11:44 am
thank you. ive had a little look around ... there's some pretty random shit going on! nice! :)
Elspode • Dec 17, 2006 11:48 am
Welcome, Phil. And thanks for the new Cellar tagline idea!

The Cellar: Some Pretty Random Shit Going On
Phil • Dec 17, 2006 11:50 am
Elspode wrote:
Welcome, Phil. And thanks for the new Cellar tagline idea!

The Cellar: Some Pretty Random Shit Going On



:D yay! ive made my mark in just a couple of posts! ;)
lumberjim • Dec 17, 2006 12:42 pm
and now, custom made with all new questions, just for you, Phil the new Guy, its......

the quiz:

1) what color are your socks?

2) are you a doctor?

3) when was the last time you were in a fight?

4) do you pee in the shower?

5) boxers or briefs?

6) Coke or Pepsi?

7) If you went camping with friends, and woke up with your pants around your ankles, and vaseline all over your butt, would you tell anyone?

8) Has Rob told you his big secret?

9) Do you still beat your wife?

10) have you ever been experienced?
monster • Dec 17, 2006 4:30 pm
Hello. It appears it's been a year since I joined. Blimey. When do the long service awards start kicking in?
Griff • Dec 17, 2006 5:29 pm
Hi Phil! Any friend of rzkenrage is suspec... er a friend of ours.:)
DanaC • Dec 17, 2006 6:00 pm
Hi Phil! Nice to meet you. Pull up a crate and sit down:)
Aliantha • Dec 17, 2006 6:45 pm
G'day Phil. Hope you brought your combat boots. :)
JayMcGee • Dec 17, 2006 7:14 pm
The more Brits the merrie......


oh.... you're Welsh........


Oh well, nevermind! pull up a gryphon and sit down anyway.

(just don't let me catch you in Chester after dark)
NoBoxes • Dec 18, 2006 2:23 am
References - OK

Background check - OK

DNA results - pending (see explanation below):

The samples submitted by yourself and immediate family are undergoing analysis. A determination will be made as to whether you actually are the father of your children; or, if there was "some pretty random shit going on" in your past!

Either way, welcome Phil. :D
Phil • Dec 18, 2006 6:14 am
lumberjim wrote:
and now, custom made with all new questions, just for you, Phil the new Guy, its......

the quiz:

1) what color are your socks? mostly black but whatever i grab in the a.m.

2) are you a doctor? i coulda been a contendah!

3) when was the last time you were in a fight? more than 20 yrs ago.

4) do you pee in the shower? of course!

5) boxers or briefs? trunks.

6) Coke or Pepsi? coca cola is an evil corporation. neither.

7) If you went camping with friends, and woke up with your pants around your ankles, and vaseline all over your butt, would you tell anyone? i go camping a lot in the summer with friends, but share my tent with my wife, so yes, i would BOAST!

8) Has Rob told you his big secret? Rob has shared many things with me.

9) Do you still beat your wife? she beats me.

10) have you ever been experienced? very, but thats mostly behind me now.


heh! that was fun.
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2006 1:54 pm
and educational. here's what i learned: (i'm testing my deductive reasoning skills here. bear with me. if i'm wrong, and mischaracterize you, don;t worry, the impression will last, and everyone will see you this way for eternity)

you're older than 35

you are paid for what goes on above your collar, not below.

you respect and admire your wife

you married later in life than is typical

you're at least part Italian

you see yourself as having a good sense of humor

you look down on americans

you do not suffer from athletes foot

you have eleven toes

someone is looking at the back of your head, right now

close your mouth, you look silly
Phil • Dec 18, 2006 3:02 pm
lumberjim wrote:
and educational. here's what i learned: (i'm testing my deductive reasoning skills here. bear with me. if i'm wrong, and mischaracterize you, don;t worry, the impression will last, and everyone will see you this way for eternity)

you're older than 35

you are paid for what goes on above your collar, not below.

you respect and admire your wife

you married later in life than is typical

you're at least part Italian

you see yourself as having a good sense of humor

you look down on americans

you do not suffer from athletes foot

you have eleven toes

someone is looking at the back of your head, right now

close your mouth, you look silly


you got 6 right.
*hands you a cookie ... or BISCUIT, as them pesky Brits would say.
morethanpretty • Dec 18, 2006 3:11 pm
Which 6 did he get right?
Phil • Dec 18, 2006 3:21 pm
morethanpretty wrote:
Which 6 did he get right?


irrelevant ... at this stage. ;)
DanaC • Dec 18, 2006 6:26 pm
I tell y'what, he's a bloody good photographer! Visit his website, it's wonderful.
Phil • Dec 18, 2006 6:29 pm
DanaC wrote:
I tell y'what, he's a bloody good photographer! Visit his website, it's wonderful.



thank you so much! :redface:
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 18, 2006 11:27 pm
I'll second that, half are outstanding......the rest are better. I love the wheelbarrow. :thumb2:
wolf • Dec 19, 2006 3:09 am
Welcome, Phil.
rkzenrage • Dec 19, 2006 12:31 pm
I posted his site here some time ago. I am his biggest fan.
Elspode • Dec 19, 2006 12:36 pm
Watch out, Phil, Rob's a stalker... :D
Phil • Dec 19, 2006 2:24 pm
thanks again. it cheers me up to have people look at them and receive nice feedback.
Rob has a couple of my pics which i believe he sometimes uses as desktop wallpapers.
Shawnee123 • Dec 19, 2006 3:30 pm
:)
Phil • Dec 19, 2006 3:33 pm
Shawnee123 wrote:
:)



ARRGGHHHH !!!! :mad: Phil bloody Collins! he's so cutting edge!
Shawnee123 • Dec 19, 2006 3:34 pm
Um, not too fond of the Phil? Sorry...just looked at the "hello" and the "Phil" and it popped into my head. Sorry if you've had your fill of Phil.

;)
Phil • Dec 19, 2006 3:45 pm
Shawnee123 wrote:
Um, not too fond of the Phil? Sorry...just looked at the "hello" and the "Phil" and it popped into my head. Sorry if you've had your fill of Phil.

;)


no problem. i just wish he'd stop recording.:right:
Elspode • Dec 19, 2006 5:43 pm
Shawnee123 wrote:
Um, not too fond of the Phil? Sorry...just looked at the "hello" and the "Phil" and it popped into my head. Sorry if you've had your fill of Phil.

;)

Hey, I *like* Phil. I like him better as Genesis' drummer behind Peter Gabriel, but a guy's got to make a living.
lumberjim • Dec 19, 2006 5:52 pm
McCracken, Phil

[undisclosed]
Syracuse, NY 13218
ImageEmail Phil McCracken

Sundae • Dec 20, 2006 7:01 am
Phil are you a Welsh speaker?
Either way I'm sure you're better at Welsh pronunciation than me - if I post some place names could you give me a phonetic rendering?

I didn't dare ask our last Welsh poster. She had some (ahem) issues.
Elspode • Dec 20, 2006 2:09 pm
Yeah, the only people she hated more than Americans were Brits.

What a wanker.
Sundae • Dec 20, 2006 2:22 pm
Elspode wrote:
Yeah, the only people she hated more than Americans were Brits.

What a wanker.

... and Muslims, and blacks, and teens, and anyone she perceived as having less education.... and that's the abbreviated list!
Phil • Dec 20, 2006 2:54 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:
Phil are you a Welsh speaker?
Either way I'm sure you're better at Welsh pronunciation than me - if I post some place names could you give me a phonetic rendering?

I didn't dare ask our last Welsh poster. She had some (ahem) issues.



my kids are fluent, my wife speaks SWalean (welsh by south wales ... slightly different from north wales), and i can pronounce quite a bit. if you want me to, i'm sure i could help.

the "rivalry" between the welsh and english goes back to Edward1 who invaded and eventually conquered Wales, and Anglicised the Welsh language out of the people. Before this, we had our own princes etc., and the feeling of being second class to what happens in England is still felt today. Luckily, the language survived and is stronger today than it has been for 800 years.

however, most Welsh people have nothing against the English people, and plenty against the monarchy and the government. sounds like she was just an ignorant racist.
Phil • Dec 20, 2006 2:55 pm
lumberjim wrote:
McCracken, Phil

[undisclosed]
Syracuse, NY 13218
ImageEmail Phil McCracken




wtf? :neutral:
Sundae • Dec 20, 2006 3:00 pm
Don't worry, she identified herself as a Brit too and it didn't take long for the rest of us to :bolt:
I love Wales personally, and the last time I was there (for my 30th birthday) I was treated with such kindness I will definitely go back.

Okay, these are in a poem by U A Fanthorpe (which I will post in the poetry thread) which I love but have been unable ever to read aloud!

Blaen-Rhondda, Nantyglo, Senghenydd
Phil • Dec 20, 2006 3:16 pm
Blaen-Rhondda - Bline Rontha

Nantyglo - Nant-uh-Glow

Senghenydd - Sen-gen-ith
Shawnee123 • Dec 20, 2006 3:30 pm
I thought the entire UK spoke English? Guess I learned something new today.
Phil • Dec 20, 2006 3:51 pm
Shawnee123 wrote:
I thought the entire UK spoke English? Guess I learned something new today.



it does, but Wales, Ireland, Scotland (and Cornwall) have their own ancient languages.
DanaC • Dec 20, 2006 5:49 pm
My trips to Wales have always been great. I also love the sound of Welsh being spoken. Lovely.
monster • Dec 20, 2006 10:23 pm
Phil wrote:
the "rivalry" between the welsh and english goes back to Edward1 who invaded and eventually conquered Wales, and Anglicised the Welsh language out of the people. Before this, we had our own princes etc., and the feeling of being second class to what happens in England is still felt today. Luckily, the language survived and is stronger today than it has been for 800 years.


The Welsh are the one British nation not recognised in the Union Flag, because at the time of the creation of the flag, Wales had already been "assimilated" by England. The Union flag is a combination of the flags of St George (England) Patrick (Ireland) and Andrew (Scotland).

All who think we should plonk a dragon in the middle of the red cross say Bydd



/no idea if this is the right word, the site I found said the Welsh had more words for yes and no than the English do for bonking
lumberjim • Dec 20, 2006 10:34 pm
Phil wrote:
wtf? :neutral:



phil mccracken = fill my crack in.

just pointing out that there actually is a guy with that name.

there's a Ben Dover, too.

so, im easily amused.
Sundae • Dec 21, 2006 12:21 pm
Phil wrote:
Blaen-Rhondda - Bline Rontha

Nantyglo - Nant-uh-Glow

Senghenydd - Sen-gen-ith

Thanks very much

Shawnee, Welsh is a wonderful and separate language in its own right. There are many people for whom Welsh is their primary language and it sounds fantastically foreign to our ears. Road signs and Government forms in Wales are produced in both Welsh and English and sites like the DVLA (driving licences) and British Telecom have an option to read the website in Welsh.

One of our Big Brother contestants this year was Welsh and only started speaking English for the show. Another had to learn Welsh for a task and made herself unpopular by saying she would rather learn Klingon....
Trilby • Dec 21, 2006 12:25 pm
Did someone say Welsh?

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll-llantysiliogogogoch"

which means: "The Church of St Mary in the hollow of the white hazel near the rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio near a red cave" (which sounds unbelievably pagan); although it is usually shortened to Llanfairpwll or Llanfair PG.
monster • Dec 21, 2006 12:44 pm
Brianna wrote:
Did someone say Welsh?

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll-llantysiliogogogoch"

which means: "The Church of St Mary in the hollow of the white hazel near the rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio near a red cave" (which sounds unbelievably pagan); although it is usually shortened to Llanfairpwll or Llanfair PG.


But can you say it? Preferably without spraying everybody.:p
Trilby • Dec 21, 2006 12:50 pm
Oh, my lord, no. I canna say it! Tho I'm blessed with unusual flexibility o' the tongue, I canna say that name! Och! ;)
Phil • Dec 21, 2006 12:54 pm
lumberjim wrote:
phil mccracken = fill my crack in.

just pointing out that there actually is a guy with that name.

there's a Ben Dover, too.

so, im easily amused.



lol ! sorry ... straight over my head! :o
Phil • Dec 21, 2006 1:01 pm
monster wrote:
The Welsh are the one British nation not recognised in the Union Flag, because at the time of the creation of the flag, Wales had already been "assimilated" by England. The Union flag is a combination of the flags of St George (England) Patrick (Ireland) and Andrew (Scotland).

All who think we should plonk a dragon in the middle of the red cross say Bydd



/no idea if this is the right word, the site I found said the Welsh had more words for yes and no than the English do for bonking



yeah! we got a Dragon!!! :cool:

Image
Trilby • Dec 21, 2006 1:03 pm
Welsh Flag: Coolest Flag EVER!
lumberjim • Dec 21, 2006 1:06 pm
bri, when can you come to PA and visit?
Trilby • Dec 21, 2006 1:07 pm
lumberjim wrote:
bri, when can you come to PA and visit?


Anytime. Any good restaurants your way? (no seafood, k?)
lumberjim • Dec 21, 2006 1:09 pm
we have an arby's?
Trilby • Dec 21, 2006 1:10 pm
lumberjim wrote:
we have an arby's?


Exxtra horsey sauce? If so, I am SOOOoooooooooo IN!
lumberjim • Dec 21, 2006 1:16 pm
i make my own
Trilby • Dec 21, 2006 1:18 pm
um...really?

is it spicey? Or hott?
Shawnee123 • Dec 21, 2006 1:34 pm
LJ's Special Sauce
Try it on YOUR Buns!
Phil • Dec 21, 2006 1:36 pm
Brianna wrote:
Welsh Flag: Coolest Flag EVER!



i think so too, but maybe i'm biased. ;)
lumberjim • Dec 21, 2006 3:11 pm
Brianna wrote:
um...really?

is it spicey? Or hott?

well, it's horseradishhy......white and creamy, and burns your nostrils if you swallow too much.
Elspode • Dec 21, 2006 3:17 pm
This all started with that whole "unusually flexible tongue" thing, didn't it?
DanaC • Dec 21, 2006 3:21 pm
Who has an unusually flexible tongue? Did I miss something good?
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 21, 2006 10:51 pm
That's Brianna's claim, Dana.

......the site I found said the Welsh had more words for yes and no than the English do for boinking
Uh, in English, aren't yes and no the words for boinking......or not? :D
monster • Dec 22, 2006 8:31 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
That's Brianna's claim, Dana.

Uh, in English, aren't yes and no the words for boinking......or not? :D



of course I ment bonking -can't type for toffee these days.
DanaC • Dec 22, 2006 8:40 pm
boinking is also an acceptable term for Brits. Usually though it's shagging.
monster • Dec 22, 2006 8:52 pm
DanaC wrote:
boinking is also an acceptable term for Brits. Usually though it's shagging.



Bonking's funnier, though :D

(we have a lot more slang terms for sex and being drunk than Americans -they have a lot more slang terms for money and murder.)
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 22, 2006 10:08 pm
What's bonking? :confused: I thought it was the same thing.
JayMcGee • Dec 22, 2006 10:09 pm
puting the record straight

The mythical animal on the welsh flag is a gryphon, not a dragon
Lanfair PG etc was made up by the Victorians
my toungue is also long and extremely flexible
i have another organ that when long is not so flexible
speaking of being well-hung, Welsh persons can still be legally hanged in chester if found within the city walls after dark
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 22, 2006 10:18 pm
JayMcGee wrote:
puting the record straight

The mythical animal on the welsh flag is a gryphon, not a dragon
I was married to a Griffin. Griffin and Dragon are one and the same, believe me. :lol:
monster • Dec 23, 2006 11:27 am
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
What's bonking? :confused: I thought it was the same thing.

They are. It's just an excuse to do it twice in slightly different positions. :)
Phil • Dec 23, 2006 1:50 pm
JayMcGee wrote:
puting the record straight

The mythical animal on the welsh flag is a gryphon, not a dragon
Lanfair PG etc was made up by the Victorians
my toungue is also long and extremely flexible
i have another organ that when long is not so flexible
speaking of being well-hung, Welsh persons can still be legally hanged in chester if found within the city walls after dark



you may well be right, but its now known as a dragon. either way its a fuckin cool flag! :cool:
i knew about the Chester thing too, but seeing as it is as exciting a place as Disneyland is for adults, not many of todays Welsh would want to be there after nightfall.
DanaC • Dec 25, 2006 5:34 am
Frankly not many English would want to either.
chrisinhouston • Dec 26, 2006 9:13 am
Phil wrote:
however, most Welsh people have nothing against the English people, and plenty against the monarchy and the government. sounds like she was just an ignorant racist.


Seems like the Brits at one time had the opinion that others like the Welsh, Scots and Irish were a few levels beneath them. One of my favorite Monty Python sketches was the one with the Welsh miners working in the mines and arguing about history!

First Miner: "Don't you talk to me like that, you lying bastard." He hits the second miner and a fight starts.

Second Miner: "You bleeding pig. You're not fit to be down a mine."

First Miner: "Typical bleeding Rhondda, isn't it. You think you're so bloody clever." They writhe around on the floor pummelling each other. The foreman comes in.

Foreman: "You bloody fighting again. Break it up or I'll put this pick through your head. Now what's it all about?"

First Miner: "He started it."

Second Miner: "Oh, you bleeding pig, you started it."

Foreman: "I don't care who bloody started it. What's it about?"

Second Miner: "Well ... he said the bloody Treaty of Utrecht was 1713."

First Miner: "So it bloody is."

Second Miner: "No it bloody isn't. It wasn't ratified 'til February 1714."

First Miner: "He's bluffing. You're mind's gone, Jenkins. You're rubbish."

Foreman: "He's right, Jenkins. It was ratified September 1713. The whole bloody pit knows that. Look in Trevelyan, page 468."

Third Miner: "He's thinking of the Treaty of bloody Westphalia."

Second Miner: "Are you saying I don't know the difference between the War of the bloody Spanish Succession and the Thirty bloody Years War?"

Third Miner: "You don't know the difference between the Battle of Borodino and a tiger's bum." They start to fight.

Foreman: "Break it up, break it up." (he hits them with his pickaxe) I'm sick of all this bloody fighting. If it's not the bloody Treaty of Utrecht it's the bloody binomial theorem. This isn't the senior common room at All Souls, it's the bloody coal face." A fourth miner runs up.

Fourth Miner: "Hey, gaffer, can you settle something? Morgan here says you find the abacus between the triglyphs in the frieze section of the entablature of classical Greek Doric temples."

Foreman: "You bloody fool, Morgan, that's the metope. The abacus is between the architrave and the aechinus in the capital."

Morgan: "You stinking liar."

Another fight breaks out. A management man arrives carried in sedan chair by two black flunkies. He wears a colonial governor's helmet and a large sign reading 'frightfully important'. All the miners prostrate themselves on the floor.

Foreman: "Oh, most magnificent and merciful majesty, master of the universe, protector of the meek, whose nose we are not worthy to pick and whose very feces are an untrammelled delight, and whose peacocks keep us awake all hours of the night with their noisy lovemaking, we beseech thee, tell thy humble servants the name of the section between the triglyphs in the frieze section of a classical Doric entablature."

Management Man: "No idea. Sorry."

Foreman: "Right. Everybody out."

They all walk off throwing down tools. Cut to a newsreader's desk.

Newsreader: "Still no settlement in the coal mine dispute at Llanddarog. Miners refused to return to work until the management define a metope. Meanwhile, at Dagenham the unofficial strike committee at Fords have increased their demands to thirteen reasons why Henry III was a bad king. And finally, in the disgusting objects international at Wembley tonight, England beat Spain by a plate of braised pus to a putrid heron. And now, the Toad Elevating Moment."
Phil • Dec 26, 2006 12:08 pm
LOL ! i remember that sketch!

On the other hand, you would get bluffers who knew next to nothing. this was a genuine conversation :

miner : "Dai, Dai, how many degrees in a circle Dai?"

Dai : *slow intake of breath* Lemme see .... how big is the circle?"

miner : "five feet in diameter."

Dai : "Dew! fuckin' thousands!"