what color are your squirrels?

Shawnee123 • Nov 22, 2006 11:59 am
In this area most are grey. We have some white ones. People say they're albino but I argue that albinism is a recessive gene, and very rare, so there wouldn't be so many of them. Also, their eyes aren't pink.

I have seen black squirrels in the Lake Erie region.

I saw a red and white one, too. My ex had found it and taken a picture because we had never seen a bi-colored squirrel before. I was all like "how cute" until I realized it was all sprawled out because he found it dead.

Squirrel colors seem to be geographically determined, so what do you have in your area? I'm hoping to get a grant to do a Cellar Study of the Geographical Determinations of Squirrel Pigmenation.
Spexxvet • Nov 22, 2006 12:06 pm
Around here - grey

At the shore - black

I've seen the red ones, too, but I can't recall where.
DanaC • Nov 22, 2006 12:18 pm
The ones that scamper about our campus, look grey, but with red across their backs and the top of their tails. I don't know if that means they're red squirrels or grey squirrels. Supposedly our native red squirrels have been all but wiped out by the grey immigrants:P
marichiko • Nov 22, 2006 12:47 pm
Our native squirrel is the black Abert's squirrel. You mostly see them out in the wild. In the towns the red squirrel has become dominent. Red squirrels are NOT native and got here from the Eastern US, following the towns. They are a regular nuisance!
DanaC • Nov 22, 2006 1:26 pm
Reds are native to Britain, not sure where the greys came from, but over the last 40-50 years numbers of Reds have dropped significantly.
Elspode • Nov 22, 2006 1:46 pm
Mostly light brown, trending to red. I saw jet black squirrels in Colorado once. I even have a pic at home, I think.

From what I can tell on the road, though, they're all red on the inside.
wolf • Nov 22, 2006 1:49 pm
Gray and Black at home. At work we have a couple of White Squirrels. I have to keep telling patients they are really seeing them.
Shawnee123 • Nov 22, 2006 1:52 pm
wolf wrote:
I have to keep telling patients they are really seeing them.


Awesome! :)
Happy Monkey • Nov 22, 2006 4:00 pm
Gray and Black here.
ferret88 • Nov 22, 2006 4:08 pm
The ones her are ...um...earth-tones? You know... tans, browns, the like.
Griff • Nov 22, 2006 4:23 pm
gray and red here. We see the occasional flying type and I thought I saw a black up the road a piece but they are not sposed to be here.
marichiko • Nov 22, 2006 4:35 pm
Elspode wrote:
Mostly light brown, trending to red. I saw jet black squirrels in Colorado once. I even have a pic at home, I think.



Yeah our native Colorado black squirrels are cool. They even have tufted ears!
Shawnee123 • Nov 22, 2006 4:38 pm
The black squirrels look really great.
Has anyone else ever seen the bi-colored ones?

(Careful, I hear bi-colored squirrels are pushing for bi-colored marriage legislation[COLOR="Gray"].)<----couldn't help myself[/COLOR].
Hoof Hearted • Nov 22, 2006 4:53 pm
Gray squirrels here. The ones in CA where I grew up were a sandy brown color, but they were ground squirrels. The ones here in GA are tree squirrels.

I recently saw pics of what looked like a "pinto" marked deer, red with white splotches. I would venture to say that the mismarked white are recessive genes and the lack of carniverous predators to seek out the 'different' and human hunters to seek the 'perfect' are what are allowing these mutations to proliferate.

Isn't there a town that advertises their "white squirrels" as a bit of a tourist attraction?
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Shawnee123 • Nov 22, 2006 5:01 pm
Hoof Hearted wrote:
Isn't there a town that advertises their "white squirrels" as a bit of a tourist attraction?
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Yes, there are, HH. I was looking this up earlier and saw a few towns who tout their "albino" squirrel population. Funny enough, some of these folks went on and on about their albino squirrels, saying the only difference was their eyes are black.

It's been a few years since college biology and Punnet Squares (I loved those) but I believe albinism is a complete lack of pigment, including the eyes (which would look pink.) Any biologists know for sure?
DucksNuts • Nov 22, 2006 5:07 pm
OMG - another thread I cant participate in because we dont have farkin squirrels.

The people I stay with in MO are always highly amused at my fascination with the little fellas...they are all like "ohh look at how much aussies like squirrels".

Woodpeckers, they are another thing that keep me enthralled for hours.
Shawnee123 • Nov 22, 2006 5:12 pm
DucksNuts wrote:
OMG - another thread I cant participate in because we dont have farkin squirrels.

The people I stay with in MO are always highly amused at my fascination with the little fellas...they are all like "ohh look at how much aussies like squirrels".

Woodpeckers, they are another thing that keep me enthralled for hours.


You mean, after all these years, no one has managed to smuggle a couple over in their purse? I mean, they breed like, uh...squirrels.:p

My ex sis-in-law lives in New Zealand and I am fascinated by the vast difference in indigenous animals. How do NZs and OZ critters compare?
warch • Nov 22, 2006 5:12 pm
Kent Ohio celebrates their black squirrels.

In Mpls, we have mostly fat urban grays, with an occasional white or black one popping up. I did see a smaller redish one a few weeks back, not sure if it was a teenager, or really a red one, those I usually see in the north woods.
DucksNuts • Nov 22, 2006 5:28 pm
No comparison Shawnee - NZ has nothing bitey or that can kill you (being that it just appeared out of the ocean and didnt separate from a *mainland*) and we have some of the most deadly little shitters in the world.

Just coz theyre cute n fluffy doesnt mean they wont eviscerate you in a blink of an eye :worried:

NZ doesnt even have nasty spiders or snakes.

Oh and no, no smuggling of cute little squirrels yet. I think they learned their lesson when they decided we needed to bring some rabbits over.
lumberjim • Nov 22, 2006 5:31 pm
Oh, that was one
crazy party.



I am hung over.



Tell me about it.



I woke up this morning



and I shit a squirrel.



I mean it.
Literally.



Hell of it is,
damn thing's still alive.



So I got this
shit-covered squirrel



down there in the office.



Don't know what to name it.



I'm sorry, Champ.



I think I ate
your chocolate squirrel.
Tonchi • Nov 22, 2006 6:20 pm
DucksNuts wrote:
OMG - another thread I cant participate in because we dont have farkin squirrels.

The people I stay with in MO are always highly amused at my fascination with the little fellas...they are all like "ohh look at how much aussies like squirrels".

OK, then tell us what color your wombats are, that's only fair :)
Undertoad • Nov 22, 2006 6:23 pm
Yeah, what color are your toads!
busterb • Nov 22, 2006 6:56 pm
The last "squirrel" that was around here was kinda blond.:bolt:
DucksNuts • Nov 22, 2006 7:14 pm
Welllllll, our wombats range from Black to Browny Grey...so squirrel coloured I guess :p

Toads, they are flame coloured when dipped in petrol and used at gold balls :blush:
wolf • Nov 23, 2006 2:19 am
Griff wrote:
gray and red here. We see the occasional flying type and I thought I saw a black up the road a piece but they are not sposed to be here.


The Blacks are coming in across the border from Canada illegally. They must be following the those miserable Canada Geese that get here and refuse to migrate.
Griff • Nov 23, 2006 8:35 pm
What is the recommended load for something like this?
Aliantha • Nov 23, 2006 9:06 pm
Gee...I didn't think this thread would really be about squirrels. How depressing.

Toads are disgusting. Stupid scientists.

We have rabbits. They came from Britain. So did the hares...and foxes (they're usually red).

Bloody poms. Someone should blow them all up!
CaliforniaMama • Nov 24, 2006 2:00 am
Toads, they are flame coloured when dipped in petrol and used at gold balls


???

Our tree squirrels are brown with pretty gold tinged tails.

Our ground squirrels are grey.

Camoflage!

Our ground squirrels are really aggressive. They live in the rocks at the beach. One day we were sitting on the beach eating our lunch and the squirrels came right up to us and starting taking the food from our laps!!

We had a tug-of-war with one of them!!! They are strong little buggers.
footfootfoot • Nov 26, 2006 12:41 am
Paisley.
DucksNuts • Nov 26, 2006 1:10 am
Ohhh I want me a paisley squirrel, or a paisley womat...how cool.

We had a *pet* womat growing up, its mother was hit by a car (they do alot of damage for a little thing)....nasty little Rosa is was it was, she would bite your kneecaps like they were apple - coz she could!!

Oh the toad thing,

Toads are a pest over here, so they are *often* the butt of cruelty...dunked in petrol and set alight at nite...so they hope off into the very short distance.

Dunked in petrol, set alight and whacked with golf clubs....etc etc.
Katkeeper • Nov 26, 2006 9:05 am
Gray squirrels in south central Pa. that are getting very fat at the moment. Black squirrels in Princeton NJ, and they are proud of them. I have seen white squirrels a couple of times while biking - easy to spot.
Sundae • Nov 26, 2006 9:24 am
Our most common squirrels are officially grey by name, but the colour varies and I was convinced when I was younger that I had seen red squirrels. I realise now that the real red squirrels (only in Scotland now I think) aren't just a russet version of the greys - picture below should help clarify. I've never seen one in real life.

When I lived in London I'd go and feed the people-friendly (grey) squirrels in Valentines Park, which was close to where my Mum grew up so a familiar place to me from family visits. I'd sit quietly for darkening November hours with frozen feet holding a bag of monkey nuts and waiting for them to approach me. It seemed worth it at the time. Then I'd thaw my feet out stomping across the frosted grass to feed the greedy ducks.

We have them on the park at the end of my road here, but they 're just the there-and-gone type, not the stay-still-and-I'll-approach you type. Sigh.
LabRat • Nov 27, 2006 10:52 am
Aliantha wrote:
Toads are disgusting. Stupid scientists.


WTF does this mean?
:confused:
Shawnee123 • Nov 27, 2006 11:30 am
Australia had no indigenous toads; they were introduced to the continent to combat cane beetles (unsuccessfully.) Here is the story.
limey • Nov 27, 2006 11:38 am
I think there are still a few pockets of red squirrels all over Britain, but they are the only squirrel we have here on my island. I see them often, either running across the road, or having failed to :( . In this context, I can confirm that red squirrels have white tummy fur.
I was told that the Nasty Grey Squirrel came from America ...
melidasaur • Nov 27, 2006 12:22 pm
Everytime I drive to my parents house (Evansville IN) from Champaign IL, I drive through Olney, IL, home of the white squirrels. They are so cute and friendly. I always stop in the park to feed them.

Olney is called Home of the White Squirrels. http://www.ci.olney.il.us/
Sundae • Nov 27, 2006 12:30 pm
... that gave me a real jolt.
It also happens to be my surname in real life!
Shawnee123 • Nov 27, 2006 12:35 pm
melidasaur wrote:
Everytime I drive to my parents house (Evansville IN) from Champaign IL, I drive through Olney, IL, home of the white squirrels. They are so cute and friendly. I always stop in the park to feed them.

Olney is called Home of the White Squirrels. http://www.ci.olney.il.us/


A lot of towns claim that fame. At least a few of them admit that they are NOT ALBINOS.
Iggy • Nov 28, 2006 3:34 pm
The squirrels here are usually grey or brown, like Elspode said. That is probably because we are not that far away from each other geographically speaking.
Aliantha • Nov 28, 2006 6:14 pm
Sorry Labrat. I didn't mean all scientists. Just the ones that make ill considered decisions/recommendations based on incomplete studies.
Aliantha • Nov 28, 2006 6:15 pm
The irony of the original statement was that at the time I was pissed off because there were toads living in our fish pond which is full of introduced fish. ;)
JayMcGee • Nov 28, 2006 7:33 pm
Aliantha wrote:
The irony of the original statement was that at the time I was pissed off because there were toads living in our fish pond which is full of introduced fish. ;)



...I guess that nobody introduced them to the toads....

Mr Horny, allow me to introduce you to Ms Goldfish...

Ms Goldfish, Mr Horny....
Mr Horny. Ms Goldfish.... now, I'll just leave you young couple to get along together...

Mr Horny: wabbit....
Ms Goldfish: have we been introduced....?
Aliantha • Nov 28, 2006 7:43 pm
Ummm....Jay, did you take your medication this morning? lol
Elspode • Nov 29, 2006 12:52 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:
I'd sit quietly for darkening November hours with frozen feet holding a bag of monkey nuts and waiting for them to approach me.

Hmm...carnivorous squirrels? The bags of monkey nuts weren't still attached to the monkeys, I hope? :D
yesman065 • Nov 29, 2006 1:44 pm
As ong as it wasn't Ducksnuts
bluecuracao • Nov 30, 2006 12:21 am
Aliantha wrote:
Toads are disgusting.


Hey, hey, wait a minute, I'm "Toad Clan." AND, the U.S. desert variety of toads are actually pretty cute; plus very hardy, resourceful, and patient (remembering how we f'd around with them when my sister and I were kids).

As for squirrels, I've usually spotted the big gray ones. But when I lived in DC, I'd see the occasional little wispy black ones. How they survived, I don't know.
Aliantha • Nov 30, 2006 12:26 am
The cane toads I'm referring to are not very cute at all. They're toxic to animals that eat them or even touch them. They gobble up the native fish eggs. They live in back yards and get in pets drinking water...again, toxic.

They're not native. They're horrible disgusting filthy creatures.
bluecuracao • Nov 30, 2006 12:29 am
Oh...southwest US desert toads aren't toxic. The toads you're talking about sound like @ssholes.
Aliantha • Nov 30, 2006 12:31 am
lol...yeah...arseholes. that's what they are. One of our dogs was killed by one when we were kids. It was very distressing and a horrible death for the dog. Dad ended up taking her up the paddock and shooting her to put her out of her misery.
splangy • Nov 30, 2006 12:32 am
Our squirrels are mostly brown with white trim--one interesting thing I've noticed on very rare occasions is a bright red tail--it looks unnaturally less 'fluffy' than a normal squirrel's. I've always attributed this occurrence to the unique diet of the 21st century squirrel.

I never much cared for the species in general...
bluecuracao • Nov 30, 2006 12:34 am
That's terrible--I'm sorry to hear that. Where do the cane toads come from?
Aliantha • Nov 30, 2006 12:36 am
They brought them over from South America to eat the cane beetles years ago. The only problem is, the cane beetles sit at the top of the sugar cane and the toads can't reach them. The toads are now out of control and impossible to get rid of. It's a national passtime for qld boys to go 'toad hunting' at night and see who can kill the most toads. The use such weapons as cricket wickets, golf clubs and lumps of wood.
bluecuracao • Nov 30, 2006 12:44 am
Oh wonderful, who was the dumbass who thought up that one. I had no idea you guys had sugar cane there. Do you have caipirinhas? :D
Aliantha • Nov 30, 2006 12:46 am
Some dopey scientist. Someone shot him years ago (I hope!). lol

Don't know what that last thing is, but we definitely have sugar cane here.
bluecuracao • Nov 30, 2006 1:01 am
A caipirinha is a Brazilian cocktail, involving lime, sugar and cachaca (a sort of Brazilian rum). It's absolutely delicious, and a stick of sugar cane finishes it off nicely.
Aliantha • Nov 30, 2006 1:13 am
Ahhh...I see. Sounds good too. Maybe I'll have to look into it, although we don''t get sticks of sugarcane very easily, so maybe no point.
Tonchi • Nov 30, 2006 1:35 am
bluecuracao wrote:
Oh...southwest US desert toads aren't toxic. The toads you're talking about sound like @ssholes.

Oh yes they are! Haven't you heard about the Colorado River toads? When the monsoons start they end up in every dog dish in Tucson, and they are poisonous :worried:
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 30, 2006 9:02 am
splangy wrote:
Our squirrels are mostly brown with white trim--one interesting thing I've noticed on very rare occasions is a bright red tail--it looks unnaturally less 'fluffy' than a normal squirrel's. I've always attributed this occurrence to the unique diet of the 21st century squirrel.

I never much cared for the species in general...
Agreed, fuzzy rats is what they are.
Welcome to the cellar, splangy.:D
skysidhe • Nov 30, 2006 9:28 am
Our squirrles drink out of fountains.
bluecuracao • Dec 3, 2006 9:57 pm
Tonchi wrote:
Oh yes they are! Haven't you heard about the Colorado River toads? When the monsoons start they end up in every dog dish in Tucson, and they are poisonous :worried:


Nooooo, I hadn't before--apparently they're in New Mexico, too, but I'd never come across one. :eek:
Hoof Hearted • Dec 3, 2006 10:01 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Agreed, fuzzy rats is what they are.

"Daytime Rats." I read that term in a Stephen King book once, and it has stuck with me. After reading that, I've never looked at squirrels as cute, furry little creatures...I think of them as rats with fluffy tails.
busterb • Dec 7, 2006 9:00 pm
Well they are. but cooked right ok.
wolf • Dec 8, 2006 1:24 am
Comment about eatin' 'em and it's not even an IOTD? What is The Cellar coming to??
Sundae • Dec 8, 2006 4:17 pm
But you really can eat them in this case. Gordon Ramsey cooked & served squirrel in his resturant. Bearing in mind many farmers & landowners trap, shoot or poison them for the damage they do to trees, I think it's more reasonable for them to end up in bellies than on bonfires.

Then again, I'd try pretty much anything if it was cooked for me.
Tonchi • Dec 12, 2006 5:03 pm
I have been reminded by more than a few people who grew up hunting them that you never eat any squirrel which did not live in a cold-winter climate. Apparently with the inexorable march of suburban development, this population has picked up many diseases and parasites which were not formerly indemic and are no longer safe to eat although they may look fat and sassy. And any urban squirrel has been eating out of trash cans and dog bowls and are about as safe to eat as pigeons, which EVERYBODY has more sense than to do :yelsick: