FU*K!
I just wrecked my car.
SUCKS!
:bitching:
Oh, did I mention that I got a new car a few weeks ago? Yeah...:bawling:
You have my sympathy, this totally stinks. Sorry to hear, hope you are OK though!!
Sorry to hear, but glad that you ARE here and able to post about it instead of floating above us, getting used to your wings, halo, harp and all....
Details, and we'll groan along with you...
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Well, at least LJ can hook you up with a replacement?
Glad you're okay, though.
Jinx,
Sorry to hear that. What happened?
Thanks guys. We're all fine, it could have been much worse... I don't think the car is too fucked up, I drove it [slowly] home.
We're having some severe weather, very windy, raining its nuts off etc.. I hit a log/tree down in the road and drove over it... lost a wheel well and all the trim. Not sure what else, its raining too hard.
Just sucks.
It was all shiny and new...
I'm sorry Jinx. At least you are not hurt, you can have my convertible if you want.
That sucks. Glad you and the kids are okay!
It's because you washed and vacuumed it yesterday, you know.
Crap! Yeah it prolly was the cleanin'. You're just lucky you didn't wax it. Glad everyone is ok. g
Sorry to hear you were in an accident - hope you are ok.
But, as it is my job to find humor in the suffering of others, I couldn't help but notice what may or may not have been a coincidence...
that's funny beestie.
sorry to hear about the car, but glad you and the little ones are ok.
this is a before shot. the pass side fender flare got ripped off, and the wheel well......well, it's in the flower bed at the moment. it was too dark to tell if there's any mechanical damage.
Bah, it's a Jeep...just chainsaw off anything that's loose and flappy, then forge ahead. Oh, and wear camo makeup. You'll win lots of points with the kids and their peers.
Glad nobody's any worse for wear. :thumb2:
Sorry to hear about this Jinx, but glad that the only damage was to the vehicle.
I am also very glad to hear everyone's OK. Whew. I must say, that is a sexy Jeep.
oh well... now you can take it
offroading and not worry about the inevitable dings!
Oh, Jinx! So sorry about your cool Jeep. It doesn't sound too, too bad--I was expecting you to say it had been total-ed. It's been said many times, but, you know it's true: No one got hurt. Thank the goddess.
Glad you're not hurt. Could LJ take it to work and switch it for one that's not messed up?
Nah. LJ won't own one of those Japanese pieces of crap that he sells. Er ... arranges financing for.
Didn't read the thread earlier as couldn't be sure who was looking over my shoulder.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo - what a gorgeous Jeep. I've wanted one ever since a very County Laydee pulled my ex's Porsche out of a snowdrift in hers. When my boat comes in, eh?
Are you sure you're okay? Not to be the voice of doom or anything, but get your neck checked out just in case - problems from even minor accidents can come back to bite you years later.
You must be gutted anyway. Well, karma says you've just cancelled out all of LJ's sins from the last 2 months. I know - it told me.
:eek: I am glad to know everyone is ok.
I'm glad everyone is OK... that weather was bad! I swerved around a recycling container on West Chester Pike last night on the way out to our show, and was lucky I didn't have an accident. But the visibility was so bad I didn't see it till I was on top of it.
Sorry about the Jeep, but very glad you are not hurt. I hope your deductible was low.
Maybe you shouldn't drive such a big stupid car?
Bigger car, bigger target?
EDIT: Are you a drug dealer? Got any decent puff?
Maybe you shouldn't drive such a big stupid car?
Bigger car, bigger target?
EDIT: Are you a drug dealer? Got any decent puff?
maybe i'd be visiting her in the hospital if she was driving a Prius. Maybe the Parents of the kids in the schoolbus full of kids that was comng the other way would too. also, go fuck yourself.
also, go fuck yourself.
Thanks, exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) the attitude I was expecting.
You've just reinforced my perceived attitude of every JEEP driver in the world.
You could not even begin to
know how smug that has made me feel, thanks again :-)
I mean that most sincerely BTW
Not only are these disgusting heaps killing pedestrians and other road users, they're also raping the planet up the arse.
Think on people.
What bad experience have you had with Jeep sproglet?
And I am so sorry to hear about the wreck. I hope everything works out well for you Jinx. Glad you're ok.
the go fuck yourself was in response to your calling her a drug dealer. and i meant it most sincerely, cock. you can be as smug as you like. the fact of the matter is that the disgusting heap was massive enough to roll over and destroy a downed tree in the road without being shunted into oncoming traffic. call me socially iresponsible. and then go fuck yourself.
Lots of bad weather. Lots of rain, floods downed trees this fall. A good reason to feel thankful this thanksgiving.
Tonight is foggy and dry. I am really feeling the spirit of the holidays already. There is another storm system comming through. It's good to hope everyone is keeping safe on the roads.:driving:
Jinx, I'm awful glad you and the kids are alright.
sproglet...when did you become a pompous fuckwad? Consume feces and expire, you self-righteous twit.
SUV hater? or just SUV envy. mine isn't a cool jeep like jinx's but i'm damn happy driving my toy through the mountains, desert, over haters, wherever, really.
this is my toy btw. ok not mine exactly, but it looks exactly the same as mine.
loooooove the fj. v. cool. l123. that thing's got eyeball. silver?! oh man, you could have had that cool blue or the yellow? still. cool ride. +1 point for you.
i only buy silver or white. living in the desert, you know. i didn't like the yellow at all, but the blue is sweet. but i drive my vehicles into the ground and i figured the eyepopping blue would get old pretty quick. a real bugger to keep clean.
Jinx,
for what it's worth, there is an astoundingly talented cook in these parts who told me a story about his "walkabout" when he was younger he left his dad's restaurant and travelled around the country picking up cooking knowledge from chefs across the US. At one place the chef was interviewing himand asked him if he had ever burnt a sheet pan of bacon. (In some restaurants they put all the bacon on a sheetpan and cook it in the oven-- several pounds at a time) he admitted he had. The chef hired him on the spot figuring anyone who hadn't (eventually) burnt a whole sheet pan of bacon had been cooking long enough.
Your safe and sound, this is your sheet pan of bacon.
And as my teacher used to tell me:
You don't know how fast you can corner till you wipe out.
AS I'm sure you've heard, it's just a car.
A really expensive car, but just a car.
oh, and can you spare some puff?
(what is puff?)
my guess is that "puff" is what some brit who hates any vehicle bigger than a unicycle calls weed.
i've got to say it again. LJ - you must be one hell of a salesman, because no man gets a woman like that with just luck.
i'm telling you. it's the cock puppets. why does no one believe me?
Bummer about the new ride !!! But every body is ok , THAT is the IMPORTANT part , the Jeepster can be fixed ( Ok jim the tree limb in the road worked , NOW you can make those ROAD WARRIOR Mods you wanted !!!!)
i'm telling you. it's the cock puppets. why does no one believe me?
Because it's so hard to do a convincing dialogue, honey! :cool: Monologue, yes...
Thanks!
I really like it.
[I.MG] Pictures of a big stupid car, with some dirt on it, in the country[/IMG]
Great.
If that's the way you like to express your status in society then there's probably nothing anyone can say to change your mind. Personally I drive a car that takes up a little less room on the roads, doesn't pollute so much and is statistically less likely to be involve in a fatal road accident.
I suppose in the States, you have the room, disposable income and attitude to run a car like that. But when I see pictures of freeways nose-to-tail with these things it just looks ridiculous.
My father recently bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the reasoning behind it was to pull his large caravan on holiday. Fair point, but he can hardly drive the damned thing because it's so bloody big and his neighbours get pissed off when he parks it outside his house and blocks access. I of course started giving him a bit of grief over his poor taste in vehicles, citing the environmental impact involved in shipping 2 1/2 tons of pig iron across the Atlantic and the 8 mpg fuel economy, his scathing retort was 'well at least it isn't French'.
Horses for courses innit. Urban 4x4 (SUV's) are the becoming the bane of UK city life, I'm with Ken Livingstone (mayor of London) who recently went public by decrying them as a public nuisance and finding it hard to justify why anyone should own one in London. Fair enough if you're a Tibetan Yak herder, but I don't know of many primary schools halfway up a mountain in the UK.
Just my democratic opinion dudes.
Just my democratic opinion dudes.
Oh yeah? Well here's my democratic opinion:
My democratic opinion tells me that you are a self-righteous, opinionated, Eurotrash asshole who thinks buying a car that costs the equivalent of three loaves of bread and a pint of Boddington's because that's all your sorry ass can afford gives you the right to bust ass on everyone who's lot in life is better than yours.
You might
think you are better than everyone who has a nicer car, better looking wife and a better looking life than you but what you really are is a stupid, jealous, insecure nancy boy who has carefully crafted a self-reinforcing delusion to cushion yourself against the reality that you drive a crumpled-up wad of French tin foil not because you have a duty to the planet but because you are a sorry-ass loser in every sense of the word and you simply cannot come to grips with it.
Oh, yeah, good luck in the election. Nice car. Dude. -ette.
How much I earn is irrelevent, but for the record (and seeing as this is the benchmark by which most Americans seem to judge people) I have a very well paid job, have no debts (apart froma small mortgage) and I am quite financially secure.
Using terms like 'nicer car' is totally subjective and I can see debating the subject with close-minded bigots is pointless and will just degrade into a slanging match.
I'll leave you all to pat yourselves on your respective backs.
Enjoy your SUVs while you can :-)
That's how you burn someone right out of the thread, well done b!
Jeeps and other SUV's are too big, gawky, and annoying... FOR LONDON. Most New Yorkers probably think the same. We have an SUV and have problems with it here in Taipei, because this city just isnt set up for big cars.
That's okay, cause when the rockets start flying and the shells start hitting, who're gonna be the ones getting the fuck out with 4WD and who're gonna be the ones puttering around in cars they could probably get out and carry?
I don't like SUVs a whole lot, but I dont dislike them any more than any other car, either. I'd personally scrap 'em all for a Microbus.
Jinx,
I am sure everyone knows you use your jeep as a workhorse so give the thread turkey no more thought.
My partner owns a Jeep. There resale value is good and you can sure pack them up when you live in areas with lots of outside activites like it appears you do.
Who the fuk cares what you drive. The important thing is that you are ok.
here's the thing. a lot of folks buy the biggest SUV they can find because they have little bitty peckers, even thought they will never leave the road. oh well, that's their choice.
some of us use our trucks and SUVS to haul people comfortably, haul items that just wouldn't fit in the back of a camry, tow things like jet skis, boats, campers, and *gasp* some even dare to drive off road! i know it is horrible to imagine, but some of us really enjoy being able to take our vehicles to places that are off the beaten path without worrying about damaging the vehicle (or the environment). and BTW what vehicle only gets 8 mpg? fucking idiot.
BTW what vehicle only gets 8 mpg?
These maybe ??
http://allabout-sp.net/season10/1002.php
NSFW or anywhere else. This could be offensive to just about everyone. But it's at least partially appropriate here.
A good way to spend about 25 minutes.
I love threads like this.
And yes, I have overstated my NSFW warning, there's no nudity or porn, but I wouldn't want to offend anyone! :D
If that's the way you like to express your status in society then there's probably nothing anyone can say to change your mind.
So you're psychic? You *know* that Jinx and LJ drive a Jeep for status? Despite the fact that you've been shown pictures demonstrating that they are outdoors people, with children, who use a four wheel drive for carrying camping gear, recreational gear and family. You should be playing the stock market with insight like that. Twit. Yes, I am calling petty names. I virtually never do this directly to someone, but in your case I'll make an exception.
Personally I drive a car that takes up a little less room on the roads, doesn't pollute so much and is statistically less likely to be involve in a fatal road accident.
*This* statement I have no trouble with. State your position with out berating someone else. Perfectly reasonable.
I suppose in the States, you have the room, disposable income and attitude to run a car like that. But when I see pictures of freeways nose-to-tail with these things it just looks ridiculous.
Back to being a twit.
My father recently bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the reasoning behind it was to pull his large caravan on holiday. Fair point, but he can hardly drive the damned thing because it's so bloody big and his neighbours get pissed off when he parks it outside his house and blocks access. I of course started giving him a bit of grief over his poor taste in vehicles, citing the environmental impact involved in shipping 2 1/2 tons of pig iron across the Atlantic and the 8 mpg fuel economy, his scathing retort was 'well at least it isn't French'.
I like your father already.
Just my democratic opinion dudes.
You have the right to say any damn fool, rude ass thing you want. Well met. And I think you're a jackass for the way you've expressed yourself. Democracy in action.
We actually have 2 gas guzzling jeeps! and i like to light my cigars with $20 bills. and.....i DON'T recycle.
the sooner we exhaust the oil supply, the better. you're not changing the world economy's dependence on oil. you're prolonging it.
Oh yeah? Well here's my democratic opinion:
My democratic opinion tells me that you are a self-righteous, opinionated, Eurotrash asshole who thinks buying a car that costs the equivalent of three loaves of bread and a pint of Boddington's because that's all your sorry ass can afford gives you the right to bust ass on everyone who's lot in life is better than yours.
You might think you are better than everyone who has a nicer car, better looking wife and a better looking life than you but what you really are is a stupid, jealous, insecure nancy boy who has carefully crafted a self-reinforcing delusion to cushion yourself against the reality that you drive a crumpled-up wad of French tin foil not because you have a duty to the planet but because you are a sorry-ass loser in every sense of the word and you simply cannot come to grips with it.
Oh, yeah, good luck in the election. Nice car. Dude. -ette.
Congrats Sproglet! You've just become the 2nd person? somebody to make my ignore list.
without exception, you really are all a bunch of sef-opiniated wankers.
Stand back, take a look at your posts.... examine your attitudes and motives...
now tell me you really are proud of and stand by the bullsh*t you'll posted here.
Jeez , did some body drop some "Fuck these Yanks" pills in the water supply over there ??
actually, it was bromide....... it doesn't differentiate....
hey, Jay? i stand by every word i wrote.
Oh, yes. The self-righteous Brit--he's NOT just a myth!
Jay, you, sproglet, buddug and that complete piece of eurotrash-hipp are, without doubt, the most prejudiced, self-satisfied, smug, wankers here. What's the matter? You all have those low-class accents that automatically make you sub-human in your own country so you come here to express all your outrage at your social impotency at home? Dump on people because you get treated like shiite? You all a bunch of alienated losers? Hmm? Because that is what it sounds like--all you four DO is bash Americans-individually and collectively and it is getting very, very boring. You four aren't so much humans as you are slogans. Whenever I see one of your names on a thread I already know what's been said without even reading it. If you one-trick ponies could come up with something MORE than just, "I hate you! You're stupid!" you might, just might, learn something.
If you're capable of learning.
But the question here, in this thread, is how on earth can sprog get all up in arms over what LJ and jinx drive when the bigger drain of assets and money and resources is the fucking Monarchy? Oh,yes. I know. The Monarchy get's spog's nuts in an uproar, right? Well, then. completely worth it, eh? I guess it takes that much to get old sprog excited. You hypocrites. Take the beam out of your own eye. Wankers.
It's all Jinx's fault. If she had been driving an
LAV or
M-1 Abrams, it wouldn't be an issue. Time to trade up.:thumb2:
(It's flame time!)
We drive bigger cars here because we live bigger lives here.
We live bigger lives here, because we are ornery John Wayne motherfuckers who left the countries we came from because they were too controlling and unadventurous.
Our ancestors saw promise and most of them risked their lives to get it. After 10 generations of these kind of people coming in, we developed into the most productive country in the world, showing the rest of you bastards how to get shit done.
Using up all the oil in our cars. Fuck you, we invented cars. Seventy years before the invention of the car, you worked out how to use rails to get around... and that was good enough for you. Seventy years, and it never occurred to you that the only thing keeping you to the rails was the rails.
Using up all the oil. Fuck you, we developed all the technology to retrieve and process and use that oil. Oil was around since the dawn of civilization and all you thought it was good for was getting things dirty and greasy. If it wasn't for us you'd be running on coal and steam, and if you like we can talk about how much coal it takes to generate steam and why London was considered foggy during the coal era, and what an environmental fuckover coal is, and how long it would not last if it was still the primary fuel.
You fucks in Britain should not have 4x4s. You do not deserve them, because you do not go off-road in them and you Never Would. You live small, cautious lives. Look at Jinx in her pics. She is doing stuff you would never dream of doing. When was the last time you tied something to the top of your car in order to have fun? Fucking never. Your gas taxes are so high you can't afford the wind drag. And why are your gas taxes so high? Wrong, it's not for some sort of special thoughtful higher purpose. Your higher purpose would still have you on coal, fucking up the environment. It's because your entire economy is set up around your government deeply controlling you and making sure you continue to live these small lives.
You're always welcome to come here and see how big lives work. If you do, unless you cross on the QE2, 99% of the technology that would bring you here was invented here. Chances are the technology that will replace oil will be invented here too. Big lives bring about big thinking and that's why your vehicles do not run on coal and steam, restricted to where the rails are laid.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to load 200 lbs of bass gear into my 17mpg truck and drive 25 miles across country to rehearse.
Edit: rehearsal cancelled today
We drive bigger cars here because they were exempt from fuel-efficiency standards, and American manufacturers didn't want to compete with the Japanese on technology.
We drive bigger cars here because people want bigger cars here. No amount of government interference will outstrip market demand. Partly because we elect the government, but more because market and cultural forces are more powerful than government forces in this country.
Edit: I drive a big Japanese truck
Once the American manufacturers pushed the SUVs into popularity, the Japanese were perfectly happy to enter the market.
the SUVs (although overdone now) were a pretty nice solution for those that had need of something like a station wagon, but didn't like the looks, a minivan - but didn't like the idea of the van, a pickup truck for those that like to get off road - but want to take the family. really pretty handy, if you think about it.
of course, good ideas can be taken too far. seriously - how many soccer moms are carting around there 2 kids in an Excursion?
but in the end, so what? if they can afford it, they like it, and they don't mind the gas bill, why does it bother anyone? people drive what they want - and they should. and people who bitch and moan about SUVs? get a fucking life.
Another reason the Japanese did not want to enter the big vehicle market in the 60s-70s is because shipping costs were higher then.
The manufacturers didn't push them into popularity anymore than the TV manufacturers pushed big screens into popularity. They provided what the people wanted, a replacement for the very practical station wagon that had fallen into disfavor for being uncool, followed by the minivan that had become soccer-mom uncool.
I won't dispute the roll of advertising/marketing, but the bottom line is still the public makes the choice with their dollars.:yelgreedy
The manufacturers didn't push them into popularity ...
I won't dispute the roll of advertising/marketing,
You just did.
but the bottom line is still the public makes the choice with their dollars.:yelgreedy
Of course. But if this was purely demand based, then Jeep would have been the #1 car in the US before the SUV push, having a virtual monopoly of the market. The manufacturers created much of the demand.
Manufacturers create cars. Markets create demand.
the ford explorer has been the best selling suv for a long time. practically since it came out in 1991. this is due, in my opinion to the supply being there to support the demand. jeep has made suv's longer, but the cherokee was too small to satisfy a family of more than 4, and the grand cherokee didnt come out until late in 93. the explorer and the s-10 blazer were well entrenched by then. jeep has never rivalled ford's numbers. mainly, i think because of production amounts. also government fleet deals.
what i'm stumbling around saying is that you two (hm&ut) are both right. there has to be a demand, but if there is no supply, the demand is filled in other ways. if there were no SUV's you'd still see a lot of conversion vans.
(It's flame time!)
Well that was just totally fucking brilliant.
[QUOTE=Bruce]The manufacturers didn't push them into popularity ...
I won't dispute the roll of advertising/marketing,
You just did.[/QUOTE]No I didn't. Manufacturers know which way the wind blows but they don't make the wind, only adjust their sails accordingly. Advertising is to grab their share of the pie. Enough of it could push the market to irrational exuberance, but doesn't have the power to create the market. They only wish they had that power.
Of course. But if this was purely demand based, then Jeep would have been the #1 car in the US before the SUV push, having a virtual monopoly of the market. The manufacturers created much of the demand.
The pre-SUV Jeeps were pretty hard core. Most soccer moms would not be happy with the ride or effort involved.
The maintenance schedule was also pretty rigorous. Lots of heavy duty whirring and clicking bits that had to be serviced regularly, especially on sand driven Jeeps. My landlord had to repack all four wheel bearings after every surf fishing trip. He wasn't being paranoid, experience had proven he couldn't do it every other trip.:(
After a couple of weekend interruptions, my fishing partner would spend most of a day, during the week, going over the Cherokee to insure a trouble free weekend trip. And this was not sandy surf fishing, but fresh water fishing with mostly paved surfaces except launching the boat.
The growth of the SUV market cause a great deal of development in new design parts with more reliability/less maintenance. It also brought a better ride and less effort.
Manufacturers create cars. Markets create demand.
And marketers manipulate markets.
Well that was just totally fucking brilliant.
And long overdue.
I agree , well said UT , Well said !!!!!
what a wonderous thread........
almost.
Although I know that Ford said 'history is bullshit', I might remind UT that your did not in fact invent cars...... just the means to mass-produce them more effieciently.... which led to another problem... how to sell them.... so you invented marketing....
...and as for us UK folks not needing 4x4's, i tend to agree..... except the Wicked StepDaughter went out and bought one the other week just so she could tow the horse-trailer (hi, lookout......).... I may never speak to her again. Not that she' d understand my Public School accent anyway (hi Bri, how's it keeping? That time of month again?)
not to point out the obvious, but you are a petty little man, aren't you?
who, me?
Nah, surely I'm too pretty to be noticed by the likes of you.
you know, you actually kind of remind me of a couple of twits i had to deal with in the british embassy/ Riyadh in the mid 90's. the condescending fucks constantly referred to the US as "the colonies". dumbshits. i don't feel i'm superior to you because you CHOOSE to drive a different car than me. i don't feel superior to you because you CHOOSE to believe the type of car a person drives reflects on their character. i feel pity for anyone so self-righteous that they look down on another because of a stupid vehicle. makes me wonder what other intolerant attitudes you hold.
mmm...... ok, now I know why you DON'T feel superior to me....
tell me why you DO feel superior to me...
*scrolling back through posts* which post was it that i wrote something about not liking people because of a simple vehicle they choose to drive??? let's see now... oh wait - i didn't. i didn't step up to the plate and state anyone was stupid for NOT driving the same thing as me. i don't care what you drive or even if you DO drive. you've made a decision that SUVs are bad. ok. good for you. but then you step up and condemn those who don't share your view. uh, sounds a bit condescending to me. that i don't like - but it doesn't make me superior to you. only more open minded.
I don't remember saying SUV's were bad. Or condemming dissidents to my POV. I do remember say you were all wankers, though.
Well this is a thread I'd have been better off having not read.
There is similar debate over here about large vehicles on suburban roads.
I agree that some people would be better off saving the environment and the rest of society by buying something they can more easily drive.
At the same time, large vehicles were originally built for a purpose, and that was for towing, off roading etc. We're considering buying a 4x4 because we want to get a bigger boat, but we wont be able to tow it unless we have a bigger vehicle. Alternatively, maybe we'll just get an even bigger boat and moar it instead. ;)
btw, I'm the one that does all the towing too, so I have a right to comment on this issue. :)
btw...glad you'll all ok jinx. Smashes are never good. :(
...and as for us UK folks not needing 4x4's, i tend to agree..... except the Wicked StepDaughter went out and bought one the other week just so she could tow the horse-trailer (hi, lookout......).... I may never speak to her again. Not that she' d understand my Public School accent anyway (hi Bri, how's it keeping? That time of month again?)
That one, lookout? where I was agreeing with your viewpoint that SUV's & 4x4's were irrelevent to an urban enviroment except in certain extenuating circumstances? like towing horse-boxes to off-road commons?
Sorry, my fault..... should'nt have used irony on you yanks...
Jeez, both of you shut up!
big suv's in an urban setting are silly. so are cowboy hats. making suppositions about a person's character based on what they drive or wear can be hit or miss. not all brits are haughty and condescending. not all americans are rednecks or blingers. being smug and abrasive, however, will only lower your stock.
i hold these things to be self evident.
the associated debates are rather interesting, though. personally, i find myself more interested in the differences of viewpoints with respect to the nationalities of the posters. it makes sense that an urban ensconsced Londoner would deride the SUV, as in their reality, they are not useful, just wasteful and annoying. but to an american, whose lifestyle supports the expense, and hobbies require the utility, it makes perfect sense.
we could have bought a minivan to cart the kids around, and a little 4x4 for our adventures, but the cost of insuring and maintaining 2 vehicles didn't compute. If i had a choice of a daily driver, i'd be driving a GTI which gets 25+ mpg. jay, sproglet, don't project your emotional response to our car onto our personality, and i won't assume that you are a charicature of a monacled british prigg.
In Australia atm, there is are a huge number of people driving suv's and 4x4''s of other varieties simply because 10yrs ago, people started saying, 'it's safer to drive the kids around in a bigger car'. It's interesting that this discourse arose at about the same time as the department of transport started advertising campaigns such as 'speed kills' and 'if you drink and drive you're a bloody idiot', with shots of people mangled and killed and in all sorts of pain.
Has the number of larger vehicles helped reduce the carnage? Nope. It's getting worse because there's more vehicles on the road. Not because of the size of them, just the number.
My personal issue with some people driving 4x4's is that they've got no idea where the vehicle starts and ends and are constantly running into things or bumping other cars etc in a series of minor bingles which simply wouldn't happen is less competant drivers were behind the wheel of something more manageable.
Recently, the number of large vehicles being purchased here has dropped considerably since the rise in fuel prices and interest rates.
I would say that 'the golden age' for the 4x4 is almost over and it'll get back to being a more proportionate number of them on the road before too long.
the associated debates are rather interesting, though. personally, i find myself more interested in the differences of viewpoints with respect to the nationalities of the posters.
I'm beginning to think there is more anti-British feeling in the States than I had ever anticipated. Even on this fairly liberal board I have come across far more Brit-bashing posts than I expected (in fact I thought it was a myth that 21st Century Americans saw us as stuck-up).
I'm not saying the responses to individuals weren't warranted, but to read a reply (not in this thread) to Buddug where someone who declares himself an anglophile says, "It's no wonder some people have such a low opinion of Brits" hurts.
I did select a number of comments from that thread and this that condemn and criticise the whole of my country, but seeing how many different names I had it was frankly depressing.
meh. i like brits. the accent especially. sounds a little smug, but that's part of the charm.
The nationalities of the recent asshats is immaterial to me. Trolls are trolls. I like *you* SG...doesn't make a whit where you're from.
I like brits... but then again, I wasn't one of those that was saying bad things about them. You get bad apples in any bunch. I think part of the reason the other dwellars were bashing the brits is that is a good way to piss of the offending person. They say Americans are bad, so we retaliate, even if it isn't 100% true. Don't worry SG! You are loved! :lovers:
I love you, Sundae (though, not in a gay way--'tho there's nothing wrong with that!) and I have always felt bad that posters like Jay, sprog, buddug and hippikos made me mad enough to "bash Brits"--sadly, those four push my buttons beyond my limit. I have lashed out in emotionally charged anger at "all" Brits. I don't hate Brits, at all!...my dream has always been to visit England (though, after getting a gut full of the above usual suspects, I've turned my sights towards Ireland/Scotland!) and I feel a real kinship towards the land of my ancestors. It is hard, though, to endure post after post after post of America-Bashing. No matter what happens in the world, the above named blame us. More importantly, though, is that sproglet, hipp, bud and Jay have never allowed us to get to know them as HUMAN BEINGS, they've only insisted on furthering their agenda ad nauseum. I hate confrontation; I hate discord; but I don't like to be summarily judged--judged by the actions of a very few--not unlike the Muslims Dana is constantly reminding us to TAKE AS INDIVIDUALS.
And BTW--after all I said, the only response jay made was, "are you on your period?" Nice. Does anyone, anyone at all, find that response offensive? I did. As if a woman has no opinion other than her hormones. All I can say is, "Jay, you ignorant fuck"---
Geez...I tried to bring this thread back to some semblance of reasonable discussion but everyone's still cranky...and just on the day when I need cheering up. :(
i'm not going to go back through my posts and look, but if i madecomments that sounded as if I dislike Brits, I apologize. individuals can be assholes regardless of accent or lack there of. In fact, some of my best friends are...:rolleyes:
Geez...I tried to bring this thread back to some semblance of reasonable discussion but everyone's still cranky...and just on the day when I need cheering up. :(
What is wrong, Ali? Anyway--this is an evil thread. Start a new one!
Nothing really wrong. I just woke up with the blues this morning and feel like crying...and before anyone asks, NO I'm not otr or about to be or anything like that.
I'm just having an attack of the sads. :(
Nothing really wrong. I just woke up with the blues this morning and feel like crying...and before anyone asks, NO I'm not otr or about to be or anything like that.
I'm just having an attack of the sads. :(
I can't think of a better way to re-arrange this thread.
I've had the sad's before. It's usually based on my past--like, ferinstance, what if I had been GOOD instead of BAD? that sort of thing....
lol...regrets, I've had a few, but then again, too few to mention. ;)
mmmmmm.....Ali, you really should check out Simon Drew....
But, more importantly, I do offer my apologies to Brianna. I agree I was out of order in my flippant and discourteous reply to your post.
But, more importantly, I do offer my apologies to Brianna. I agree I was out of order in my flippant and discourteous reply to your post.
Thank you, Jay. I don't know what else to say...
simon Drew is british artist/cartoonist with a wicked sense of humour.
For example, a postcard cartoon of bunch of fish tied together under the caption 'joined up whitting' ...... ok , so its a visual thing. I'll try and scan some of his stuff for you tomorrow.
We drive bigger cars here because we live bigger lives here.
Nah, you just live louder lives :P
Geez...I tried to bring this thread back to some semblance of reasonable discussion but everyone's still cranky...and just on the day when I need cheering up. :(
Kitchey kitchey koo. :D
Who is Simon Drew?
Nancy's brother?
damm.... sorry, Ali, I promise to scan some of his works, but events overtook me. I will do so, but probally until nearer the weekend ( the whole earning the daily crust thingie is going to get in the way of my life for the next day or two)
poor you Jay. lol You should become a lay about like me. ;)
I'm beginning to think there is more anti-British feeling in the States than I had ever anticipated. Even on this fairly liberal board I have come across far more Brit-bashing posts than I expected (in fact I thought it was a myth that 21st Century Americans saw us as stuck-up).
Check out this link. read down the comments too. :)
http://www.janegalt.net/archives/009523.htmlAbout the 'its no wonder...' comment I made...
When people like Buddug uses britishness as justification for racism, hate, and all that bullshit, it makes ALL brits look bad. And since the pricks are the loudest, the ones who only hear them... naturally would come to not like brits.
I followed the link. It made me laugh :P
a) SkyNews is not our equivalent of CNN.....it's our equivalent of Fox news. Might just as well judge American values and understanding by watching Fox as judge British ones by watching Sky.
b) We are shit at American accents it's true. Americans are traditionally shit at English accents also. You notice our bad American accents but do also notice your own bad English ones.?....we notice your bad English accents, but we also usually notice poor American accents also. The most vitriolic attacks on English actors attempting American accents invariably come from Brits.
c) the vast English of majority of English people far from 'knowing all about American politics' are thoroughly bemused by you.:P
For some reason, a lot of Americans believe that the Cockney accent is the standard one. This may be a WW2 leftover, just like "pip pip".
Dick Van Dyke's accent in Mary Poppins is absolutely *ridiculous*. We apologize. I myself can't watch it.
Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones was OK, wasn't she?
Renee Zellweger's accent was absolutely stunning. Flawless.
I can only apologise for Hugh Laurie's accent in House:P
Maybe you shouldn't drive such a big stupid car?
Bigger car, bigger target?
EDIT: Are you a drug dealer? Got any decent puff?
If you don't like her Jeep you would love my Dodge Ram.
What a Maroon!!!
I don't understand the whole Big car thing. Doesn't it just mean you use a lot more petrol?
My Chrysler La Boron gets about 30 MPG, My Dodge Ram 4+4 Gets about 10 MPG
The truck also hauls and tows any thing I want to put in it, it also goes off road and is alot of fun to drive. I love the intemidation factor it is big black with lots of chrome. I live large, and I'm lovi'n it.
" If you dont like the way im livin you can just leave this long haired country boy alone"
I can only apologise for Hugh Laurie's accent in House:P
What? You're nuts, it's perfect. I know several people who didn't even know he was foreign.
Apollo from
Battlestar Galactica is flawless as well.
Now Colin Farrell, he has a crappy American accent (see
Minority Report, for example.)
Hmm. Maybe it's just because I know how he usually sounds. To me he sounds very very fakey:P Love the show though.
Now, Apollo I honestly thought was American til I saw on here he wasn't.
I love British accents, but I REALLY love Scottish accents (should I say brogues?) For examples: Craig Ferguson, or that guy from Four Weddings and a Funeral (who gives the eulogy.) Oh SuhWOOOOOOOON!
Ohhh. You would love my mate Andy (or Ondy as he pronounces it:P) He's from Aberdeenshire and speaks a kind of mix of English and Doric (a dialect which I am assured is actually a language in its own right ) When he's around English people he softens it a little so that we can understand him, but I love it when he goes off on one and vents a bunch of Doric. Its a fantastic dialect.
For instance, he refers to his girlfriend as his Quine,(pronounced Kwine, as in She's ma kwine) which I assume comes from queen.
He lives on a Croft, writes music and songs, is an artist and a local Councillor (SNP naturally) and rides about the place on a series of very wonderful bikes and choppers. One enduring image is of him on a bright pink Harley, which he did up for a female friend.
What? You're nuts, it's perfect. I know several people who didn't even know he was foreign. Apollo from Battlestar Galactica is flawless as well.
Idris Elba and Dominic West on
The Wire are perfect, too.
When people like Buddug uses britishness as justification for racism, hate, and all that bullshit, it makes ALL brits look bad.
Well, Buddug is Welsh, which goes pretty far into explaining the whole inferiority complex ... we don't hold the British responsible for her.
What? You're nuts, it's perfect. I know several people who didn't even know he was foreign.
I've had to explain that to people too. None of them had ever seen Blackadder or Fry and Laurie.
The one who most impresses me as far as ability to supress a British accent is Eamon Walker ... he played Kareem Said on Oz.
Well, Buddug is Welsh, which goes pretty far into explaining the whole inferiority complex ... we don't hold the British responsible for her.
Good! :)
When people like Buddug uses britishness as justification for racism, hate, and all that bullshit, it makes ALL brits look bad. And since the pricks are the loudest, the ones who only hear them... naturally would come to not like brits.
With respect chick - bollocks. If a troll uses their teenagery as justification for spewing hatred it does not make ALL teens look bad. I'd prefer to think that people could spot personal views for what they are, and not tar a whole nation/ age group/ gender etc etc with the same brush. Meh, I didn't mean to single you out (hence not attributing the quote) so I'll accept that you are entitled to that point of view & leave it there. Anyway I've decided to lighten up (see below).
Check out this link. read down the comments too. :) http://www.janegalt.net/archives/009523.html
This made me SOOOOOO angry... parts of it are just so....
inaccurate! and then like Dana I just had to laugh. Confuse a Brit by getting them to pump their own gas? Actually that was what turned me over to the giggles - both pump and gas are words for farting here. And farting cuts across any national boundaries - we all pump at the end of the day so I may as well stop being so bloody thin-skinned and imagine everyone sitting down together and having one big trump...
To join the accent conversation - Rennie's was great, as was Gweneth Paltrow's. Simon Pegg is in a film with David Shwimmer (spelling?) which is out this weekend - for us anyway, may be out there already - called The Big Nothing. Interested to hear how he does accent-wise. There was a clip of it on TV last night & I thought the accent was dire, but David Schwimmer said it was good....? Admit I'm not great on accents once it's out of the British Isles.
Umm....in what way would we be confused at having to pump our own gas/petrol? We only have self service over here. More likely it would confuse us if someone attempted to fill our car for us.
It sucks when people make sweeping generalizations about you and your country, doesn't it?
Want to really freak out a visiting Brit? Make them pump their own gas, use a kiosk at a market or airport, and -- for the capper -- doctor up their own coffee at Starbucks (or wherever). Guaranteed bewilderment.
That's what I mean.
I feel the same way when Hippikos, Jay or Buddug make the same kind of comments about Americans--as if we are all the same kind of people. It hurts.
With respect chick - bollocks. If a troll uses their teenagery as justification for spewing hatred it does not make ALL teens look bad. I'd prefer to think that people could spot personal views for what they are, and not tar a whole nation/ age group/ gender etc etc with the same brush. Meh, I didn't mean to single you out (hence not attributing the quote) so I'll accept that you are entitled to that point of view & leave it there. Anyway I've decided to lighten up (see below).
Hey,
I dont have anything against Brits, and the pricks among you don't make
ME think less of you, but my point is that
some people may think that. Statement of a problem is not an endorsement of it.
Your statement was "it makes ALL brits look bad" not "some people would think it makes ALL Brits look bad."
But if it's not your view I apologise for picking you up on it.
Brianna. You regularly resort to 'anti-Brit' statements and sentiments when responding to posts by the Brits on this forum. You make sweeping generalisations about what we think, intend and do.
Darling, the Brits don't see it that way at all. They only see it in terms of how it will effect them. They really don't even give a hang about us, in terms of individuals; they see us as one big mass of simple-minded, uncultured hicks who'd best do what they're told, or no pat on the head from them.
Case in point. I am a little tired of having this argument with you. If you aren't careful you'll end up with a bent spine from carrying around that fucking big chip.
Y'know. I really try, as much as possible not to make sweeping generalisations about any nation. I occassionally fail in that endeavour, but it's never malicious. When i refer to 'America' doing something, or 'Britain' doing something, I am referring to the body politic, not the population in general. I occassionally generalise when making a point just because posting would become cumbersome if every statement was couched in caveats. I assume people understand that. Maybe I'm wrong.
This forum sometimes depresses the shit out of me.
Dana, I didn't mean it that way. I'm sorry you took offense. The above quote of mine that you re-posted out of context was written in a moment of real heat and aimed at a few posters who irritate the shit out of ME. We all get irritated at times. I'm tired of having this convo with you, too.
As far as a chip on my shoulder...well, i guess we've all got burdens to carry, eh?
I wasn't pointing the finger at you, Dana. Not everything is about *you*
My point Brianna, is that whilst plenty of people make generalisations about each other's countries, you regularly respond to my posts with a dig at British people, British views, or accusations of generalisation. Now, if it's in response to all those other people, why does it so often come after, and relate to my posts?
I wasn't pointing the finger at you, Dana. Not everything is about *you*
I don't think everything is about me. I do think you have a tendency to make sweeping generalisations almost as regularly as you pout over other people generalising about Americans.
mmmmmm.... no quite sure why I'm lumped in with the anti-american brigade... to be sure, I think your foreign policy, for the most part, sucks..... and I 'm not to keen on your general asumption that the american way is the best and only way.....and whilst I'm sure that your cultural output at its best equals the best of Europe, I can only take so many re-runs of the simpsons or Friends.
That said, many of my personal friends are former colonialists.
You are anti-American because you disagree with aspects of American politics....and because you make tongue in cheek comments about colonialists.
No, because early on when he joined the board, he made very many non-tongue-in-cheek derogatory comments about "Yanks" and "colonialists." To his credit, since staying around and getting to know us, he has stopped the practice almost entirely, and what remains is in fact tongue-in-cheek, like you say. But Brianna tends to hold a grudge. :)
Ahh. Fair enough. I must have missed the early stuff.
Is it wrong to call you lot Yanks? I didn't think there was any other way to affectionately describe you. :)
I was the Yank during my time in Sheffield and it was fine. Some of our Southern brothers may not prefer it. Why:
From Wikipedia's entry on "yankee":
A humorous aphorism attributed to
E.B. White summarizes these distinctions:
To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
I only apply to the first three definitions but it speaks true to me.
American by birth ,
Southern by the Grace of GOD !!!
Don't be sad, zippyt, one out of two ain't bad....
Rhyming slang gives us Septic Tanks for Yanks (only for comedic effect, not maliciously)
I prefer Mary Queens. For the same reason I will sometimes exchange the words recipe and receipt or use prize for present - it amuses me.
American by birth ,
Southern by the Grace of GOD !!!
You forgot Marine, for life. ;)
British soldiers have never done anything like this before? Or Australian even for that matter?
mmmmmm.... no quite sure why I'm lumped in with the anti-american brigade... to be sure, I think your foreign policy, for the most part, sucks..... and I 'm not to keen on your general asumption that the american way is the best and only way.....and whilst I'm sure that your cultural output at its best equals the best of Europe, I can only take so many re-runs of the simpsons or Friends.
That said, many of my personal friends are former colonialists.
that, and this,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm
is why I deplore Americans.
And you wonder? :rolleyes:
Pass on the ausies.....
As for the Brits, ever since Bloody Sunday our rules of engagement have been very rigerous. It's a difference in attitude and training.
American armed forces are drilled in the 'protect your buddies' ethos: thus, any perceived is responded to with lethal force. The UK armed forces are proabally more mindful of the risk to civilian and non-combatant casualities due to the the fact that much of their battle experience occurred within the UK.
Yes but still, there will always be casualties of war. People who're killed in error. Doesn't mean I think it's right or fair. It''s just a fact.
Indeed so, Ali. It just seems to me that certain nations in the coalition forces are more prone to error than others.
Perhaps. But maybe it's just that those nations have more soldiers there so of course the incidence of error is higher.
The reason I say that is because I think that soldiers the world over have a certain view of the world, and it really doesn't matter which country they're from. There's still a certain base way of going about the job they have to do. Maybe the word I'm looking for is ''gungho" in their attitude.
Yes, I think you put your finger on it.
The British Army does all it can to eliminate the 'gungho' attitude.....
and yes, you are also right that the Americans have more troops there, and in the toughest areas.
But still...... levelling a family dwelling with tank rounds because there are snipers on the roof shooting at your armoured tank does seem a tad excessive... perhaps the continual 'pinging' on the armour was giving the brave lads a headache.....
Maybe, or maybe they simply didn't realize the likely/possible consequences of their actions at the time.
It's important to remember Jay, that what you read isn't always the whole story, or even much of it.
Also, remember again, try not to judge a whole nation by the actions of a few.
I think 1 is the most likely.... (it was a multiple choice test, n'est pas?)
as for 2. most of my news comes from the beeb. I surf sky, cnn, reuters and nova, but the thing with the beeb is that they never put out a bulletine unless it's been verified at least three ways. so, they're often late with a story, but you can believe it.
and, yes i do realize (see how I use the zee to connect with my yankee cousins) that the armed forces of the USA are not indicative of the majority of the populace, who are totally untrained in the use of fire-arms but nevertheless demand the right to carry them.
Do you just like making life hard for yourself Jay?
you, sir, are a fucking idiot. soldiers are soldiers the world over. your rules of engagement may read nice and neat so you feel good about them in your warm, cozy, safe life, but i'm telling you that british soldiers are just as ruthless and horrible as us americans. i speak from first hand experience. but you go ahead and keep getting all your best ideas from "the beeb".
TBH, I would be extremely disappointed if our British soldiers were not as least as ruthless and horrible as yours..... when the need arises. And that, of course, is the crux of the matter.
that, and this,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6193620.stm
is why I deplore Americans.
what a stupid thing to say. does it not seem stupid to you? how can anyone respect a single post you make after something like this? you
deplore Americans because of some shit that happened involving americans in a war theatre? you deplore Americans? Bullshi------it. You don't deplore americans. you are obviously unqualified to make an accurate judgement. You may
think you deplore us, but i suspect that you simply envy us.
dickless.
Can I at this point, rather publicly, distance myself from my 'compatriot'.
As for the Brits, ever since Bloody Sunday our rules of engagement have been very rigerous. It's a difference in attitude and training.
Rules of engagement may well be rigorous, but individual soldiers still fuck up and fuck up badly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4698251.stmAustralians just blow themselves up.
Yeah,....well British soldiers still have a rather annoying habit of shooting their own men. "friendly fire".
I was in the middle of reading this article: "
SUVs on road to nowhere" when this thread popped up. The comments at the end of the article put the earlier SUV debate in this thread into a different perspective.
The article opens:
Might as well hold services right here in the driveway of the Thielke family of Aurora, where their hulking, 10.5-mile-per-gallon Ford Excursion is on fire sale with few takers and is soon to be replaced by a less greedy minivan.
Killed by insanely high gas prices and a general cultural embarrassment, the SUV leaves lots of survivors but fewer and fewer friends.
"We're kind of in a pickle. We need a large car, but it's killing us," Erin Thielke, mother of eight, said of the family's $100-plus weekly gas bill. "It stinks. It's just like throwing money away."
Here are a few of the 232 comments posted so far:
Bigger isn't better or safer and most definitely not necessary. My sympathy for gas guzzling SUV owners is short lived. On multiple occasions I was almost run-over by an cell phone talking, SUV drivers who quite literally acted as if they owned the road and the rest of us just had to deal. SUV's owners fondness for buying, owning and using them a child like tantrum screaming "but I want that". There is a difference between want and need (what a concept!). That its taken sustained $3.00+ a gallon gas prices to get SUV owners to stop pitching a preverbial fit shows thier arrogance and immaturity. ...
So, Ms. Thielke did her part by contributing to the overpopulation of the planet, global warming, and soaring oil prices by having eight children and buying a 10.5 mpg land yacht. She must be so proud of herself.
Oh puhleeeeze, no more sob stories about the short-sighted fools who bought into the SUV craze. You will get no sympathy from me. These idiots made their own bed, and now they're whining because they have to lay it.
8 CHILDREN?
Hey, nothing against having kids, but come on...
That's not a family, that's a litter.
How many decades have we been talking about overpopulation, pollution, diminishing fossil fuels, and so on....
She's the poster child for our national, arrogant, gluttonous overconsumption.
Hard to have pity.
What was she thinking?
Eight kids sitting on a land yacht feeling entitled to "the good life" and a house-proud nit wit standing in front of it and living in the burbs beyond the horizon. If this isn't the perfect picture of what the rest of the world despises about us, then please tell me what is. And yes, I practice what I believe and live in my city within three blocks in three direction of just about everything I need to purchase. I drive a 13-year-old Suzuki, own an 800 square foot house, and I have spawned one child. How can some people sleep at night? Eight kids!!!
And my favorite:
car in many Indonesian people is just a dream, including me.
I practice what I believe and live in my city within three blocks in three direction of just about everything I need to purchase. I drive a 13-year-old Suzuki, own an 800 square foot house, and I have spawned one child.
Loser. :p
I suppose I do have some pity for people who could afford the children when they had them, but rising fuel and food costs mean they have to lower their standard of living. I'm not going to say anything about the cost of living US vs UK because it's apples and oranges. And on the internet there is no difference in nationality anyway.
So I have some pity, but not an awful lot. If you want children and you had children then you love your children and would do anything for them.
Children don't need to be pampered to be loved. They deal with shortages better than adults, as long as they feel secure. Nothing wrong with having 8 children, just don't whine about it. Kids get picked up for school in the US don't they? Every other trip is elective (in a harsh world I mean!)
Here are a few of the 232 comments posted so far:
Gosh, these people sound just as judgmental as a bunch of christians righteously gay bashing don't they.
You want to have few or no kids, live in small house, drive a small car, take up a small footprint etc, then be my guest. You'll get just as much admiration from me an anyone else who has integrity / isn't a hypocrite. If you're doing it for bragging rights, or so you can look down your nose at others, like all the people who posted haughty comments about other people's lives and decisions.... well, your opinion maybe isn't worth as much as you think it is...
car in many Indonesian people is just a dream, including me.
Yeah, I have a car but dream about living on a tropical island, what's your point?
To me, it indicates that a lot of people want to be just like us.
I sought out this thread to update on the mangled Jeep, but wasted 45 minutes rereading it.
i still think jay is dickless, by the way.
Anyhow, I got a call from the appraiser, and the Jeep is too buried in snow for him to get a good look. he's sending us a check for $5219 which he thinks is about 2/3 of the damage...... I hope he's right about that.......
Concerned about the tires, though....he says they prorate them...and if I have to have 2 tires replaced....and only get half their value..... PLUS, it's all wheel drive, and I don't want differing diameter tires on it. they are big meaty mud terrains, and new ones might be as much as a 1/2" taller.....that will add up quickly and mean different twist speeds on the axles going into the transfer case. I may find that I have to replace all 4 tires. I think I need to talk to the body shop guy and see if he can get new tires included in his estimate. this shouldn't be costing us a red cent in my opinion.
damn it
Fight Jim Fight!
The insurance company only wanted to pay me for a rental car for a week to ten days. Then they wanted me to pay first and they would reimburse me. Uh, no thats not how it works when you are the victim. Additionally, they wanted MY credit card at the rental place "just in case." I told them to call the insurance company contact and ask for HIS credit card. That took care of that.
Insurance companies will screw you at the first moment of weakness. Just don't let them close the case or sign anything until they make your vehicle "Whole". They have a responsibility to do that by law. Good luck. We are still dealing with ours after an accident at Thanksgiving and them keeping the car until last week to try to fix it.
Don't cash that check. Ask your lawyer why
I just wrecked my car.
SUCKS!
:bitching:
Oh, did I mention that I got a new car a few weeks ago? Yeah...:bawling:
I sought out this thread to update on the mangled Jeep, but wasted 45 minutes rereading it.
i still think jay is dickless, by the way.
Anyhow, I got a call from the appraiser, and the Jeep is too buried in snow for him to get a good look. he's sending us a check for $5219 which he thinks is about 2/3 of the damage...... I hope he's right about that.......
Concerned about the tires, though....he says they prorate them...and if I have to have 2 tires replaced....and only get half their value..... PLUS, it's all wheel drive, and I don't want differing diameter tires on it. they are big meaty mud terrains, and new ones might be as much as a 1/2" taller.....that will add up quickly and mean different twist speeds on the axles going into the transfer case. I may find that I have to replace all 4 tires. I think I need to talk to the body shop guy and see if he can get new tires included in his estimate. this shouldn't be costing us a red cent in my opinion.
damn it
Wait, wait...This has been going on for almost
four years???:eek:
no no....the 1st incident was years ago... i was just going to talk about the recent accident in this thread.
no news on that front, btw.
And there was another pic (damned if I can find it now, though) of what I thought was the same Jeep, wrecked, parked in the same spot, by the same building.
Oh, well. I walk around confused most of the time anyway.
That pic was out back of the body shop
