Texas Governor

morethanpretty • Oct 11, 2006 1:27 pm
Who will you vote for? Why
Chris Bell-D, Rick Perry-R, Carol Keetan Strayhorn-I, Kenky Friedman-I

Me? I think (if I get a chance to vote) that I will go for Chris Bell, I'm a college student and since Perry has been in office the tution in Texas has dramtically increased, although I don't blame him specifically for this (our governor is one of the weakest in the country) I think that I would prefer a governor with the goal to lessen college costs. Also Bell has a desire to re-do the public education system which the current admin has not been able to do, we have a 40% drop out rate. It barely meets minimum reqs of the constitution. Although I don't entirely agree with his goals on immigration, one of them is to make gaining citizenship easier and learning English a req. Perry's policies only focus on stopping those trying to cross into America. Well thats my position...
Flint • Oct 11, 2006 1:51 pm
Kinky.
morethanpretty • Oct 12, 2006 12:49 am
Flint wrote:
Kinky.


Why? specifics please...because I really don't see much I like about him...he didn't even know the Mexican president...
Flint • Oct 12, 2006 9:16 am
morethanpretty wrote:
Why? specifics please...
I posted this link. (Also, "why not?")
morethanpretty wrote:
...because I really don't see much I like about him...
He isn't a "politically correct" career politician.
morethanpretty wrote:
...he didn't even know the Mexican president...
It was Strayhorn who didn't know the Mexican President.
Ibby • Oct 12, 2006 9:50 am
Just his name is enough to get my vote, if I had one.
Clodfobble • Oct 12, 2006 3:37 pm
Kinky!! I really don't know which one I hate more, Strayhorn or Perry...
warch • Oct 12, 2006 4:20 pm
Even our nutty Jessie is distancing himself from Kinky.
Flint • Oct 12, 2006 4:28 pm
Kinky has the same team working for him that got "nutty Jessie" elected to begin with.
Clodfobble • Oct 12, 2006 5:37 pm
warch wrote:
Even our nutty Jessie is distancing himself from Kinky.


Possibly at Kinky's request, since there are bound to be comparisons and everyone knows Ventura flopped once he actually got in office.
morethanpretty • Oct 12, 2006 8:44 pm
Flint wrote:
I posted this link
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Believe it or not...I know how to click on a link...and had already looked into each of the canidates' sites. I asked you why because I wanted to know your specific reasons for liking him. If you like his whole platform then you either didn't really pay that much attention to it or you are extremely gullible.

(Also, "why not?")
He isn't a "politically correct" career politician.


A career politician? our governor makes $115,345 a year. Every canidate probably can and does make more per year in their other profession. You have a career to make money. These canidates don't need the governance to make money...they already have it. Maybe he should try and be a bit more "politically correct" I don't like him blatantly smoking...our governor may not have much power but he is still a role model...and our school children are likely to see images of him, smoking. Also if he is sooo against lobbyists, why is he supporting one of the most dominate lobbyist group in the country? tobacco companies.
FYI: Our legislators only make $7,200 a year...no I did not forget a zero.

It was Strayhorn who didn't know the Mexican President.


You're right on that...I'm sorry. She's a mess isn't she?
Flint • Oct 12, 2006 8:51 pm
Okay, it's because I'm extremely gullible.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 12, 2006 9:52 pm
morethanpretty wrote:
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A career politician? our governor makes $115,345 a year. Every canidate probably can and does make more per year in their other profession. You have a career to make money. These canidates don't need the governance to make money...they already have it.
That's $115k taxable income.
Maybe he should try and be a bit more "politically correct" I don't like him blatantly smoking...our governor may not have much power but he is still a role model...and our school children are likely to see images of him, smoking. Also if he is sooo against lobbyists, why is he supporting one of the most dominate lobbyist group in the country? tobacco companies.
You're kidding, right? The Gov smoking cigars would harm the children? He's lobbying for tobacco companies? Good grief. :rolleyes:
morethanpretty • Oct 12, 2006 10:36 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
That's $115k taxable income. You're kidding, right? The Gov smoking cigars would harm the children? He's lobbying for tobacco companies? Good grief. :rolleyes:



I said he was supporting them. Do you think he will support an increased tax on tobacco? And yes you should watch your image when you are a public figure....and although it might not "harm" children, it certainly won't send them a good message.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 12, 2006 10:53 pm
Do you think the Gov pays for his cigars? They come with the state humidor, don't they. That would be part of the non-taxable income.

You're absolutely right. Watching their public image is crucial, because the majority of the voters are more worried about image and political correctness than what kind of job their actually doing.

They can tell you how he dresses, how good his table manners are and whether or not he smokes. Just don't ask them where he stands on issues or how he voted on the bills that control their very lives.

Elect scum.....but handsome, well dressed, well mannered scum......for the children. :right:
Flint • Oct 15, 2006 12:25 pm
I've long maintained that Rick Perry's greatest achievement is his hair.

[COLOR="White"]...........................[/COLOR] :::Texas drawl::: Now that's the hair of a Gov'nr.
morethanpretty • Oct 18, 2006 1:42 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Do you think the Gov pays for his cigars? They come with the state humidor, don't they. That would be part of the non-taxable income.

You're absolutely right. Watching their public image is crucial, because the majority of the voters are more worried about image and political correctness than what kind of job their actually doing.

They can tell you how he dresses, how good his table manners are and whether or not he smokes. Just don't ask them where he stands on issues or how he voted on the bills that control their very lives.

Elect scum.....but handsome, well dressed, well mannered scum......for the children. :right:


Public image is important (not crucial) to me because it shows respect and consideration for their audience. I don't have a problem with his clothing (although it's cheesy) other than the smoking. His public image isn't the only problem I have with him...it just starts there and builds. Maybe I read more into imagery, but there is alot of insights there if you look close enough. Yeah, he tells you the issues that he has with our government, but where is his plan? how is he gonna raise money for schools and throw out the TAKS? People have worked hard on that test, kids have worked hard to pass it. It is a good marker, just too much emphasis has been placed on it. What about higher education, and the Texas grant program? How does he plan on dealing with illegal, and legal immigration? What about the record high tuition? He has overlooked some of the most important issues that Texas has, and done very little to plan for the ones he hasn't forgotten.
Flint • Oct 18, 2006 2:17 pm
I could vote for the status quo (shambles) or for the other pre-packaged options (buying into "us" vs. "them" politics), or I could vote "none of the above" by supporting an independant. We need more options like this, because the system is rigged to favor the entrenched two-party duopoly.

Not voting for an independant, when presented the chance, is an implicit encouragement of the usual monkey business.
morethanpretty wrote:
Yeah, he tells you the issues that he has with our government, but where is his plan?
I believe that acknowledging the existence of a problem is a good first step. But, you're right, he doesn't claim to have all the answers. So, the difference, in real terms, is that if he proves to be ineffective, it won't make him a liar (as is usually the case when sugar-coated campaign promises are broken).
Clodfobble • Oct 18, 2006 6:23 pm
morethanpretty wrote:
how is he gonna raise money for schools and throw out the TAKS?


Actually, he very specifically addresses this on his website. He is going to legalize casino-style gambling and all the proceeds go to the schools.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2006 1:05 am
morethanpretty wrote:
Public image is important (not crucial) to me because it shows respect and consideration for their audience. I don't have a problem with his clothing (although it's cheesy) other than the smoking. His public image isn't the only problem I have with him...it just starts there and builds. Maybe I read more into imagery, but there is alot of insights there if you look close enough. Yeah, he tells you the issues that he has with our government, but where is his plan? how is he gonna raise money for schools and throw out the TAKS? People have worked hard on that test, kids have worked hard to pass it. It is a good marker, just too much emphasis has been placed on it. What about higher education, and the Texas grant program? How does he plan on dealing with illegal, and legal immigration? What about the record high tuition? He has overlooked some of the most important issues that Texas has, and done very little to plan for the ones he hasn't forgotten.
I agree public image is important, I just don't agree what makes the important part of public image. I'd be more concerned with his honesty than his clothes. Eccentrics are cool, scumbags are not.
When I first heard he was running, I figured it was a publicity stunt, but semi-following his campaign, I find out he's been sort of involved with politics for a long time. I like what he says and think he means it. Of course that only means trying and not a guarantee of success.
Are the other candidates laying out specific plans for the items you mentioned? :confused: