September 11, 2006: 9/11 victims montage

Undertoad • Sep 11, 2006 10:08 am
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There's nothing else I can do today except to follow Neatorama's lead. As Neato says,
The photo above is a montage of those killed (except of 92 victims) by the terrorists attack on September 11, 2001. It was part of the prosecutorial exhibit from the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui.
Neato also offers a link to the site 2,996, a tribute to the victims of 9/11. (The site is overloaded and slow right now, so I've taken down the link, will put it back up when the site is available again.)

Listening this morning to Howard Stern's real time rebroadcast of his coverage of the day five years ago has been... and continues to be... a very moving experience. All of the confusion, the anger, the drama of the day plays out again.

The Cellar's own Where were you thread is fascinating, if I may toot our own horn.
Emrikol • Sep 11, 2006 11:44 am
World Reaction
World Reaction II
World Reaction III
World Reaction IV
Rescue Dog :)

Just a small selection. You know, I hate to admit this, but I was teary eyed on the way to work today listening to the radio replays of '01. That was five years of emotions coming back. I'm silly.
milkfish • Sep 11, 2006 11:48 am
What was special about the other 92? Are they the passengers and flight crew in the planes?
maninthebox • Sep 11, 2006 11:56 am
Awesome links Emrikol. That brought a few tears to my eyes. Fascinating montage as well.
Trilby • Sep 11, 2006 12:13 pm
thanks, Emrikol. I'm pretty teary-eyed myself. I can't watch any of the movies, the documentaries...it makes me so unbearably sad. My life changed that day--I decided to quit my job because I was unhappy in it; the past five years have been years of upheaval and change for me.
Shawnee123 • Sep 11, 2006 12:14 pm
Thank you Emrikol. I got a bit teary myself. Maybe the entire rest of the world doesn't hate us. Or didn't.
rkzenrage • Sep 11, 2006 2:40 pm
Re: Emrilol.... OT, but I had to...

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Shawnee123 • Sep 11, 2006 3:58 pm
I love Goggies!
sproglet • Sep 11, 2006 5:06 pm
Hate to be picky but it's not a montage is it?

It's a load of pictures stuck in neat rows on a wall.

I don't mean to be heartless but why dredge this up every year? surely it defines and celebrates the terrorist victory just as much, if not more, than the loss to the families of the victims.
Trilby • Sep 11, 2006 5:22 pm
sproglet wrote:
I don't mean to be heartless but why dredge this up every year?


What shall we do? Forget? Pretend those lives didn't happen? You do sound heartless.
sproglet • Sep 11, 2006 5:50 pm
Brianna wrote:
What shall we do? Forget? Pretend those lives didn't happen? You do sound heartless.


American media seem happy to pretend almost 3000 coalition troops haven't been killed so far in the pointless and illegal war in Iraq. I think I'm also right in thinking not a single name was read out from the list of several thousand innocent Iraqi civillians slaughtered thus far either.

Now that is heartless.
Emrikol • Sep 11, 2006 5:51 pm
I'd rather it be more graphic and realistic. I hate the commercialization of it. Movies, books, stick-on-the-back-of-your-car magnets. WTF America?
Trilby • Sep 11, 2006 5:57 pm
sproglet wrote:
American media seem happy to pretend almost 3000 coalition troops haven't been killed so far in the pointless and illegal war in Iraq. I think I'm also right in thinking not a single name was read out from the list of several thousand innocent Iraqi civillians slaughtered thus far either.

Now that is heartless.


the 9/11 remembrance is for remembering 9/11--not the war. War dead are memorialized on other days.

You can beat your drum on tons of other threads.
Undertoad • Sep 11, 2006 6:50 pm
The IotD queue is pretty full right now, and I wasn't expecting to post this, but once I was listening to the real-time rebroadcast, I felt moved to do it.

It struck me a bit more than I expected, because it wasn't a timeline-y replay of the facts. It was a replay of the fear, the confusion, the sickening feeling, the amazement, which is what everybody was going through. Worry in some people's voices, anger in others.

The wandering concerns: are other places going to be hit? The slow burn of bad news as things got worse and worse and worse. The fog of war as a few rumors circulated and were dismissed: did they lose track of two other planes headed for LA? Did a third plane hit tower 1 before it fell? Was there an explosion on Capitol Hill? The common-sense question: what did we do to deserve this level of atrocity?

All that stuff was dredged up in me this morning. I didn't expect it but I realized what it was doing to me when somebody on the show said omigawd look the tower's falling, with a shaky voice, and suddenly I had a tear.
wolf • Sep 11, 2006 8:45 pm
As a prosecutorial exhibit I think that the montage does a good job. It puts human faces on the tragedy, turning them from mere numbers to husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, and friends.

The events of 9.11.01 are still unimaginable, particularly because they are real.
Karenv • Sep 11, 2006 9:10 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
Re: Emrilol.... OT, but I had to...

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All of the rescue dogs that worked on the pile after 9/11 have died of cancer.
Aliantha • Sep 11, 2006 9:16 pm
Why would the dogs die of cancer?
glatt • Sep 11, 2006 9:18 pm
Asbestos
wolf • Sep 11, 2006 9:18 pm
They apparently died of urbanlegenditis.

The University of Pennsylvania Veterinary School just completed a five year follow up study of the search dogs that worked the pile. Most are in good health.

This is an older reference to the study.
Undertoad • Sep 11, 2006 9:20 pm
With their noses at ground level, trained to constantly sniff to find humans, they surely breathed in the worst of whatever was present down there.

:mecry:
wolf • Sep 11, 2006 9:22 pm
The 9-11 Dog Study Website
Undertoad • Sep 11, 2006 9:25 pm
I'm utterly relieved! Thanks wolf!
wolf • Sep 11, 2006 9:29 pm
I saw a piece on FoxNews today about the search dogs. Apparently there's a new book about the dogs at Ground Zero that looks pretty interesting. I had also heard about the search dogs dying in droves, and am very glad to know that it's not true.
neatorama • Sep 12, 2006 5:37 am
These dogs have a stressful job - they can actually get depressed if they don't find live people every now and then. In fact, their handlers usually "hide" a live person for these dogs to discover after several hours on the job, to stave off stress and depression.

Thanks for noticing the post entry on Neatorama, UT! It looks much better here ...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 12, 2006 1:02 pm
I would hope they have boots for the dogs like the sled teams use, but I guess respirators are out of the question.

I too, get depressed if I don't find a live one now and then. :o
wolf • Sep 13, 2006 2:54 am
Many rescue dogs do wear boots, but sometimes the tradeoff between sureness of footing and protecting their paws is a tough choice. As far as respirators go, I'm sure someone has developed them, but it's tough as hell to get a dog to wear a cute little sweater, a heavy piece of equipment would be tougher. Except for balancing things on their nose tricks, most dogs don't like stuff on their faces. It also would impair their scent tracking capability.

If the rescue dog lady is at my meeting tomorrow night, I'll ask her about that, though.
neatorama • Sep 13, 2006 7:26 am
the dogs can't smell with a respirator!
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 13, 2006 8:25 am
Bingo. :lol2:
Shawnee123 • Sep 13, 2006 9:52 am
wolf wrote:
I'm sure someone has developed them, but it's tough as hell to get a dog to wear a cute little sweater, a heavy piece of equipment would be tougher.

Oh yeah?

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