Utilitarian Boobs
Recently, BabyTalk magazine released an issue with the below cover image, which generated over 700 letters to the editor, making it the most controversial issue ever. More information on the controversy can be found
here, including this gem of a quote:
..."It's not like women are whipping them out with tassels on them," she added. "Mostly, they are trying to be discreet."
I'll admit it--I feed my kid in public all the time. Off to the side and covered with a blanket, but it's still pretty obvious what I'm doing if you happen to glance over. Did you (or your wife) bust out in public, or were you too embarassed (or perhaps not embarassed, but sensitive to offending others)?
Pete did it discreetly in public all the time. I really don't get the problem.
If you have a problem with breastfeeding then you are a sick, sick fuck and should be shot in the fucking head. The end. It's natural. You did it, we all did it. If you can't see a female breast without sexualizing it then you have issues. I'm talking to you, John Ashcroft.
There's public, and then there's public. If we were at a playground a park or something, my wife would have no problem breastfeeding. Toss a cloth diaper over the shoulder and it drapes down. No problem. Even without a cloth, the baby's head covers everything anyway.
But I can see how doing it in church or maybe at a restaurant table might cause some ruffled feathers.
A little discretion, and it's fine in public. Most mom's aren't going to want to breastfeed during a board meeting anyway.
ruffled feathers
The same way that the Taliban got "ruffled" at female children being allowed to go to school? The same way that in some parts of Africa people get "ruffled" at the idea of a woman getting to keep her clitoris? I say:
[SIZE="2"]fuck them[/SIZE]. They can get over it.
Actually, I didn't mean it that way at all.
Flint, you're going on a tangent there. Not wanting to have images of a baby breast feeding while you're eating is understandable. Someplace like a movie theater or airplane where you can't always control proximity would be another inappropriate place to nurse. The mother needs to be considerate of the people around her in certain environments just as people in a park or public open area should be considerate of the mother. Please don't tell me you honestly think asking a woman not to suckle her baby in an inapproprate location is the same as locking her in a house or circumcising her. :right:
I remember driving my wife to her surprise wedding shower. My dad and I were the only men in the room at the restaurant. One or more of my cousins were breastfeeding at the table.
I'm not much of a drinker, but I believe that I did end up out at the bar.
Mothers have the right to feed their babies everywhere mother and baby have the right to be. If you don't like it, you can leave.
Everytime a mother offers a bottle instead of the breast she is one step closer to weaning. I haven't read the article, but I hope it pointed out at least some of the benefits of not weaning too soon, there are so many.
yeah. how does a baby breastfeeding disturb you? edipal images? babies need to eat when they're hungry.
fucking people.
respect the boobies.
Once while I was living in Portland my X and I were eating in a restarant, and a young family came in. The young mother took a blanket out of a bag and started feeding her baby. Across the floor a woman started complaining to a Cop sitting by her and was told to give it a rest the kidlet need to eat too. Hooray for the Portland Police Dept.:cop:
Yeah, it's totally innapropriate to FEED AN INFANT IN A RESTAURANT! A friend of ours was told by some effed up biatch that she should feed the infant in the restroom. Our friend said "Hey lady, why don't you eat in the restroom?"
Custom G (aka SWMBO) used to feed Il Nudgelino (aka inch3) "on demand" These days, the party's over, but it is still all about the dowas.
And LJ, I'm surprised at you. Were you out smoking dope during your greek history classes? Edipal indeed.
Oedipus would poke his own eyes out if he had any idea, oh wait. Never mind.
Well I've got a problem with it. All those damn women draping diapers, blankets, and sweaters over their shoulders like serapis.
This ain't Mexico, bitches....this be the good ol' USA. Lose the cloth! :rtfm:
A couple of years ago one of our well known female talk show hosts..[its a show that does a run down on the national/international news for the week and usually puts a comedic spin on it] caused a *stir* when she started breastfeeding during the show (its live).
It was in the news for the week and in all the newspapers, but all the hype was *supporting* her right to breastfeed ....the ABA has a HUGE presence over here and its very common to see Mothers Breastfeeding everywhere and anywhere. Not too many bother with the cloth nappy or anything, as mentioned, the babies head covers everything anyways.
I still dont get the fascination with boobies, but hey, I'm happy with it and I aint afraid to exploit it at times either :)
I liked these parts of the story:
One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.
"I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast -- it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."
Last I checked--and maybe I'm wrong here--boobies are not actually sexual things...though they can be.
The same woman...later in the article:
"I'm totally supportive of it -- I just don't like the flashing," she said. "I don't want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see."
Aaaaaaah! My eyes! I was forced to look at a big tittie! I feel so violated!
Well I've got a problem with it. All those damn women draping diapers, blankets, and sweaters over their shoulders like serapis.
This ain't Mexico, bitches....this be the good ol' USA. Lose the cloth! :rtfm:
:eek::biglaugha
The thing that gets me is that you cant even see the nipple. I've seen bathing suits that cover less than you can see in that picture.
another inappropriate place to nurse.
As far as I'm concerned, there's NO inappropriate place to nurse. The more public breastfeeding the better. Fuck, I think people should be able to go out in public naked. Who has the right to tell me that I HAVE to wear clothes? Our country is so fucked up in terms of sexuality BECAUSE of the way we treat our bodies. I'm with Flint on this one (I thought he left?).
It's fucking hot out there and I should be able to strut my pimply honky ass in public if I want. I've seen outfits that are more ugly than a naked body. Fucking prudes! And the whole "I don't want my child to see" crowd can shove it too. If kids saw more real and/or average breasts, they wouldn't fetishize them. Breasts are breasts for fucking christ's sake. Go nude in protest I say! Anybody in the cellar brave (or stupid) enough to join me?:mad:
"It's all about the dowas."
I'm with you, but guys who can't pass the pencil tests should have to wear bras.
Not wanting to have images of a baby breast feeding while you're eating is understandable.
No, it isn't. Not to me. I don't understand it - not even a little bit. Breatfeeding is natural and healthy.
Someplace like a movie theater or airplane where you can't always control proximity would be another inappropriate place to nurse.
It doesn't matter where you are. If
you have a problem with breastfeeding then it is
your problem. It is a natural, healthy thing.
Please don't tell me you honestly think asking a woman not to suckle her baby in an inapproprate location is the same as locking her in a house or circumcising her.
The very idea that there is an "inappropriate location" for breatsfeeding is repulsive to me. Of course, it isn't on the Taliban-level of female repression, but it sure as hell springs forth from the same backwards-ass belief system. Defining the act of a mother feeding her baby as "inappropriate" (and expecting her to cater to your mental hang-ups!) is sick, sick, sick. I can't be any more clear about it than that. I disagree with you 100%.
"A breast is a breast -- it's a sexual thing."
And what exactly is the sexual function of the breast ???
"A breast is a breast -- it's a sexual thing."
And what exactly is the sexual function of the breast ???
It's curvy and soft and seems to turn men on!
BTW--I see you're back!! Hee, hee!
My conservative Catholic Mom breast fed me in church. I guess you'd like to be the one choose between a crying hungry baby and a happy fed baby. That choice isn't for you to make, until you have a kid and then I bet your wife straightens you out. :)
Brianna has a very, very good point.
But Pangloss may be right, us menfolk might not like them so much if such a big deal wasn't made of them.
All I know is Brianna is right.
Right, she was right: breasts "turn men on" - so a breast hang-up (if you have one) is your problem.
Right, she was right: breasts "turn men on" - so a breast hang-up (if you have one) is your problem.
Well, I suppose a gay man wouldn't be turned on by a breast. At least not a woman's breast. I find Flint's passion for public breast feeding rather interesting...tell us more, Flint. ;)
My wife is due in about a month, our first child.
When my baby is hungry, I am not gonna give a flying fuck about some bigot's puritanical human-body complex.
My wife is due in about a month, our first child.
When my baby is hungry, I am not gonna give a flying fuck about some bigot's puritanical human-body complex.
Ah, that's it, then. Your hormones are all out of whack! :D
Congratulations on your baby-to-be!
So it's ok to look at a breast in public if there's a kiddie attached to it, but if it's just the boob itself that's wrong? Reminds me of the movement around here to let women walk around topless, just try it and then tell me boobs arn't sexual objects.
Oh, there was the funniest woman on the news a while back talking about it, when asked if she cared about men looking at her chest she replied "well of course they can't stare! Staring means they are sexualizing me and that's harrasment". My friends and I got into an argument afterword about how long you were allowed to look at a womans breasts without getting in trouble (we were mostly trying to embarass the hell out of the girls present though :D)
If you have a problem with breastfeeding then it is your problem.
Ok, so the people who would be desturbed by loud public flatulence can also take their "backwards-ass belief" about a perfectly normal bodily function and leave where ever they paid to be? I don't particularly care about public feeding, but your over-the-top juvenile attitude and tactic of simply attacking those who argue with you is pathetic Flint. Get back to me after you think of a more compelling argument than "you have personal issues" and can understand the difference between "it is a horrible, shameful act" and "please refrain in a few situations".
...Staring means they are sexualizing me and that's harrasment". My friends and I got into an argument afterword about how long you were allowed to look at a womans breasts without getting in trouble (we were mostly trying to embarass the hell out of the girls present though :D)
I seem to remember a court ruling that 4 seconds was ok, but over that was "leering".
I support topless nursing. :D
@9th: Maybe you should've corrected my grammar, or something, and that would change my fundamentally simple position, which you haven't offered a rebuttal to, at all, except to do more of the same thing you accuse me of: tossing out over-exaggerated counterpoints. <insert smilie>
Not really, I'm saying you didn't have a position to begin with. There is no rebuttal to "you are just an unsophisticated moron" because then we decend into something more closely resembling "am not. are too" than anything rational adults would call a debate. Post #30 was me advising you to actually read what people post. If I say "there are situations where otherwise acceptable behavior becomes intrusive on others" then do not accuse me of saying it is an unacceptable and unatural act. What the heck is anyone supposed to say to a line like "The very idea that there is an "inappropriate location" for breatsfeeding is repulsive to me". Really. Not only is your language hilariously bombastic, but I can either assume you are talking out of your ass or you have no concept of situational etiquette. Let me restate for clarification "I have no problem with public breastfeeding, and I'm sure most people do not, under all but a few circumstances". If you talk loudly on your cell phone on the street, in your car or at the mall then no one is going to care very much. Try it at an expensive restaurant and you will be asked to stop or leave.
Now then, is it really so much to ask a mother to feed her child either before or after the short amount of time it would make those around her uncomfortable??
Now then, is it really so much to ask a mother to feed her child either before or after the short amount of time it would make those around her uncomfortable??
So do you want her to feed the child on the toilet or outside with the smokers? Babies eat constantly and on their own schedules. They don't have the stomach capacity for three meals a day. It can be done discretely and generally is as long as nobody makes a big deal out of it. You'd be suprised at how often you didn't notice.
There was a short period of time when the cultural norm of breast-feeding on demand was suppressed, mostly to market baby formula to the middle-class. People now understand that babies get a lot more than nutrition from their mothers and societies norms are shifting back where they belong. Do we really want to make good mothers another group of social outcasts?
All you men!
I had two babies. I breast-fed them on demand. I somehow managed to NOT nurse them while I was out at restaurants or grocery shopping or at Kmart or any other damn place. The babies slept on most excursions. If I was at a restaurant and my infant needed feeding, I think I would go out to
my car--not because it would be "wrong" to breastfeed in public but for my own comfort. I wouldn't want people staring at me.
Really. Not only is your language hilariously bombastic, but I can either assume you are talking out of your ass or you have no concept of situational etiquette.
"Hilariously Bombastic" would be a good name for a rock band.
The babies slept on most excursions.
Lucky you.
Lucky you.
YMMV. I didn't feel especially lucky--when my infants were subjected to a lot of stimulus (the shopping mall, a restaurant) they dealt with it by sleeping. It was all too much for them so they ignored it.
@9th: There is no inappropriate setting for a healthy, natural act. Any percieved inappropriate-ness is strcitly in the eye of the beholder, as there is no locational context that changes the nature of the act - except to the observer, if they choose to take that point-of-view. My "hilariously bombastic" position is that: the rights of a mother and her hungry infant outweigh your sqeamishness at seeing a boobie.
Your rebuttal is to compare breastfeeding to #1 farting and #2 a loud cell phone conversation. Something tells me you're missing the point?
actually read what people post
There was a short period of time when the cultural norm of breast-feeding on demand was suppressed, mostly to market baby formula to the middle-class. People now understand that babies get a lot more than nutrition from their mothers and societies norms are shifting back where they belong. Do we really want to make good mothers another group of social outcasts?
I think Brianna has it right... Maybe cause she has them and did it.
Mine didn't sleep. In fact, once they woke from their nap, got a diaper change and clean clothes on, were fed, got placed in their car seat, got removed from the car seat and had the vomit wiped off them, got a new change of clothes and another new diaper, got placed back in the car seat and were driven to the planned destination - they always wanted to be fed right away. Breastmilk is digested quickly.
Even if the baby could be persuaded to wait until a more convenient time, the breasts often couldn't. At feeding time the hormones go to work and "let down" often occurs whether it's convenient or not. So mom could either nurse the baby, or look like a wet T-shirt contestant. Which is more "uncomfortable"?
edit: LMAO. This is jinx.
There is no inappropriate setting for a healthy, natural act.
That's what I said yesterday, Flint, and I concur 100%. I do understand Bri if she chooses to go to her car, but I don't understand 9th at all. Does he think breastfeeding is "gross," or "disgusting"? Just WHAT about breastfeeding bothers him?
Breasts are just one physical attribute of sexuality, and they are fetishized out of all proportion to the other attributes (hair, legs, eyes, ears, nose, buttocks, feet, personality, intellect, etc.). Breastfeeding is declining in this country because of insecurities women have about keeping up with Cosmo/Maxim stereotypes. Kids need it and good moms will do it when it's time to do it and when and where they want to do it.
Breastfeeding is declining in this country because of insecurities women have about keeping up with Cosmo/Maxim stereotypes.
I'm glad you're in support of breastfeeding. But the above statement is nonsense. According to the CDC it's been
increasing in recent years. And of all the women I know who didn't breastfeed or stopped early, not one of them did it because they were insecure about no longer being an attractive Cosmo stereotype. They stopped because it was painful, difficult, and/or embarrassing in public or even when others were visiting in their homes. The last thing they gave a damn about was whether they were hawt.
Whatever the reason, it is healthier and should be encouraged - not scandalized.
What do you all think of women who breastfeed even when the kid is old enough to come into the kitchen and unbutton mommies blouse? Teeth is nature's way of saying, "No more breast for you!"
I personally find I get uncomfortable beyond the second birthday.
Not only is your language hilariously bombastic, but I can either assume you are talking out of your ass or you have no concept of situational etiquette. Let me restate for clarification "I have no problem with public breastfeeding, and I'm sure most people do not, under all but a few circumstances".
I think I understand. I heard on NPR this morning that Iraqi goat herders are being killed for not putting diapers on their goats when they bring them into town. Apparently this presents an "inappropriate" temptation, meaning: the exposed genetalia of the goats, when viewed by the general public.
Now, in this case, "situational etiquette" dictates that exposed goat genetalia can be tolerated "under all but a few circumstances" . . . Is that how it works?
What the heck is anyone supposed to say to a line like "The very idea that there is an "inappropriate location" for breatsfeeding is repulsive to me". Really.
What are you "supposed to say"
??? Ummm... Offer a rebuttal, or admit you were wrong? Or...just never come back to the thread?
I just don't feel comfortable telling you what to say. I'm sure if you had something to say, you'd say it. Unless "situational ettiquette" dictated otherwise.
Keeping in mind that I don't have children, I think it is up to the mother when to feed the child. Mother usually knows best. I don't think it is fair to expect a baby to eat in a bathroom or in some dirty corner, would you eat in a restaurant bathroom?
Teeth is nature's way of saying, "No more breast for you!"
Nonsense. Teeth start coming in well before a baby is even a year old, often at 4-6 mos.
"The minimum predicted age for a natural age of weaning in humans is 2.5 years, with a maximum of 7.0 years."Babies don't care if mom is in a church or restaurant or car when it is time to eat. A screaming, hungry baby is a much worse distraction than a contentedly feeding one, in my opinion.
I'm of the opinion that the human body is not something to be ashamed of, and that breast feeding a baby is a perfectly natural function. That said, I don't think it hurts anyone to place a light covering over the shoulder to shield the baby and breast from the gawking of those nearby. I'm not about to go hide in a bathroom or alley but I am willing to use custom clothing or cloths to keep the function semi-private.
Personally, I could care less if a mom wants to whip it out in full view and feed. Anyone that thinks this is 'disgusting' or a 'turn on' has some personal issues that have nothing to do with feeding a baby.
By the way, my 14 month old had her first tooth come in at 4 1/2 months and had 9 teeth by 12 months.
Stormie
I'm of the opinion that the human body is not something to be ashamed of, and that breast feeding a baby is a perfectly natural function.
Anyone that thinks this is 'disgusting' or a 'turn on' has some personal issues that have nothing to do with feeding a baby.
Apparently, the rebuttal to this is:
Get back to me after you think of a more compelling argument than "you have personal issues" and can understand the difference between "it is a horrible, shameful act" and "please refrain in a few situations".
Which leads to the question: why would anyone have to refrain, in
any situation, from doing something that there isn't anything
wrong with doing in the first place? What is it that makes it wrong, in those situations where the only new element introduced is the
reaction of an observer?
If you have a problem with breastfeeding then it is your problem.
Reading back over this thread,(yeah I like tits, so what) in the original link and the personal experiences of the posters, I noticed all the objections that were made in public places were by women by women?
Could it be behavior issues women have, having covering them up being drilled into their heads from youth?
Or, are they just selfish bitches that don't want their husbands/boyfriends seeing any strange, possibly better, boobs?
No boob with a child attached to it is better than one without a child attached to it. Not for sport, anyway.
I think breast feeding should go on as long as mom and child are in agreement that it should, so long as the child doesn't have to drive over to mom's to get a meal. :D
When my kids were that age, the World Health Org. recommended breast feeding until age 2. Child initiated weaning was also recommended.
I haven't read all the posts so maybe you all know this already, but I just learned that Victoria's Secret kicked a nursing mother out of one of their dressing rooms and told her to breast feed in the bathroom! I mean, Victoria's Secret for the love of god! They turn a profit based on the tit! What hypocrites!
The last thing they gave a damn about was whether they were hawt.
:)I think the term is
haute (or haut). Hawt is what they say on a farm.
Sorry for being off topic. Kindly return to your discussion of tits.:rolleyes:
As for Victoria's Secret, Victoria's secret is that she's anorexic.
I just learned that Victoria's Secret kicked a nursing mother out of one of their dressing rooms and told her to breast feed in the bathroom!
My long-running schtick about punching people in the nose, which I've never been serious about, may actually come to fruition, if I encounter one of these troglodytes.
I think the term is haute (or haut). Hawt is what they say on a farm.
It's a slow morning for me, so I can't tell if you already know this and were just teasing me... but I was using "hawt" as the mocking internet slang term for sexy, as one would exclaim when, say, receiving the latest issue of Maxim. "Teh new hawtness" is also a farkism.
I have never, nor will ever understand what the fuck the problem is if a woman breastfeeds a baby in a restaurant. I remember going into a cafe with my sister in law, her baby, the elder toddler and my mum. \Baby wanted a feed. My sister in law was very discreet, she covered up as much as was feasible given the circumstances and still we got dirty looks from the other patrons. Get over it! If it's an appropriate place for a mother to be with her baby, then it's an appropriate place for the mother to feed baby.
It's a slow morning for me, so I can't tell if you already know this and were just teasing me... but I was using "hawt" as the mocking internet slang term for sexy, as one would exclaim when, say, receiving the latest issue of Maxim. "Teh new hawtness" is also a farkism.
Nope. It's new to me. I have obviously been treading in the backwaters of the Internet.
Originally Posted by Stormieweather
Anyone that thinks this is 'disgusting' or a 'turn on' has some personal issues that have nothing to do with feeding a baby.
I find it feminine and, therefore, attractive.
But, a 'turn-on' would definitely be pushing it.
It is the reason they are there, a beautiful thing and there should be no shame in it nor reason to hide it.
If someone becomes uncomfortable or aroused by it to the point of destraction... they need to seek professional help.
The New York Times has
this article. Summary: Rich and middle-class working women have an easier time breastfeeding than hourly workers.
When a new mother returns to Starbucks’ corporate headquarters in Seattle after maternity leave, she learns what is behind the doors mysteriously marked “Lactation Room.”
Whenever she likes, she can slip away from her desk and behind those doors, sit in a plush recliner and behind curtains, and leaf through InStyle magazine as she holds a company-supplied pump to her chest, depositing her breast milk in bottles to be toted home later.
But if the mothers who staff the chain’s counters want to do the same, they must barricade themselves in small restrooms intended for customers, counting the minutes left in their breaks.
“I feel like I had to choose between feeding my baby the best food and earning a living,” said Jennifer Munoz, a former cashier at Resorts Atlantic City Casino who said she faced obstacles that included irregular breaks and a refrigerator behind a locked door. She said she often dumped her milk into the toilet, knowing that if she did not pump every few hours, her milk supply would soon dwindle.
The casino denies discouraging Ms. Munoz from pumping. “We have policies and procedures in place to accommodate the needs of all of our employees,” Brian Cahill, a Resorts spokesman, said.
This two class system brought to you by The Man.:(
So, it becomes necessary to appeal the that more reliable motive for businesses, greed.
Public health authorities, alarmed at the gap between the breast-feeding haves and have-nots, are now trying to convince businesses that supporting the practice is a sound investment. “The Business Case for Breastfeeding,” an upcoming campaign by the Department of Health and Human Services, will emphasize recent findings that breast-feeding reduces absenteeism and pediatrician bills.
how long are we talking about per-pumping session? If it's 15-20 min every few hours then I can guess why it's not encouraged right now.
The two-tiered breastfeeding system?? Oh please. Guess what world? Cashiers don't get as many perks as the executives do, does this shatter your world? Get out more.
I disagree...not two tiered but multi-tiered.
Big companies will have corporate policy plus individual bosses within the organization will flex some. Small companies will go with the personal feelings of the boss tempered by his relationship with the employee. It also depends on what kind of job the woman is expected(paid) to do. There's probably half as many tiers as there are people affected.
So I'm saying there is no standard.
But ladies, if you wish to feed or pump, probably the best way to get permission from the boss is get him involved. Let him in on the action....I mean program....yes that's it, the plan... make him part of the plan.
Hell, it could even be a team building exercise. ;)
The two-tiered breastfeeding system?? Oh please. Guess what world? Cashiers don't get as many perks as the executives do, does this shatter your world? Get out more.
The "golden rule" i.e. If you have the gold, you make the rules.
But ladies, if you wish to feed or pump, probably the best way to get permission from the boss is get him involved. Let him in on the action....I mean program....yes that's it, the plan... make him part of the plan.
Hell, it could even be a team building exercise. ;)
You sir, are a very strange man.:rolleyes:
Thank you....thank you very much. :blush:
I see no reason why any woman shouldn't feed her infant in public. However she does it is her concern. If you can't cope with it, look the other way. Anyway, I've seen some fully grown people eating in public who are definitely disgusting/obscene in the way they consume their food.
But I can see how doing it in church or maybe at a restaurant table might cause some ruffled feathers.
Aren't churches family places? And we all eat at restaurants, why can't our babies. Like it was mentioned earlier, it's not like ladies are "whipping" them out swinging with tassles or yelling out for people to have a good old perve. It is done quietly and discreetly. If people are embarrased at seeing a baby have a meal then they should stay away from places where babies are "allowed" to.
A little discretion, and it's fine in public.
I wish you had taken this message from my post. I'm in favor of breastfeeding, and would like more moms to be doing it for longer, and feel free to do it in public.
However, while I can imagine a discreet breastfeeding in church being just fine, I can also imagine a feeding in church being less than discreet and being distracting, taking attention away from where it belongs. You wouldn't eat a pizza in church would you? There's a time and place for everything. Also, I was imagining a fancy restaurant when I wrote that part about restaurants. It's really a moot point, because people typically don't bring babies to fancy restaurants. But I think a baby should not be fed at the table in a fancy restaurant. There is a certain atmosphere that others are expecting, and a breastfeeding baby doesn't fit in with that expectation. Unhealthy food aside, a mom breastfeeding in McDonalds would be just fine.
With a minimal amount of discretion, breastfeeding in public is just fine, and I support it.
If people are distracted from the sight/sound of a baby feeding while in church then they probably weren't really concentrating in the first place. Babies decide when they are hungry, which is more distracting-a screaming hungry child or a woman with a baby attached to her breast for twenty minutes? I know of a few churches in my area that actually have a room where they can see and hear the whole service from and can sit with babies/children who might be noisy or causing distraction (because lets face it, kids hate sitting quietly for an hour or more!). Why should mums have to miss out on socialisation simply because they've had a baby? Is that fair? breastfeeding isn't dirty or unhealthy, or unsanitary.
You can't preach to a hungry congregation. Noone is interested in their soul if their belly is empty.
To infants, nursing is the only sacrament there is.
Lyle Lovett
Church from Joshua Judges Ruth
I went to church last Sunday
So I could sing and pray
But something quite unusual
Happened on that day
Now church it started right on time
Just like it does without a doubt
And everything was all just fine
Except when it came time to let us out
You know the preacher he kept preaching
He told us I have one more thing to say
Children before you think of leaving
You better think about the Judgment Day
Now everyone got nervous
Because everyone was hungry too
And everyone was wondering
What was the next thing he would do
And the preacher he kept preaching
He said now I'll remind you if I may
You all better pay attention
Or I might decide to preach all day
And now everyone was getting so hungry
That the old ones started feeling ill
And the weak ones started passing out
And the young ones they could not sit still
And the preacher's voice rose higher
So I snuck up on the balcony
And I crept into the choir
And I begged them brothers, sisters, help me please
I said when I give you a signal
I said when I raise up my hand
Won't you please join with me together
And praise the Lord I have a plan
And the preacher he kept preaching
Long is the struggle, hard the fight
And I prayed, Father please forgive me
And then I stood up and with all my might
I sang
To the Lord let praises be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
And I listened to what the preacher said
Now it's to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
Yes and I did give a signal
Yes and I raised up my hands
And then joined with me the choir
Yes every woman, child, and man
They sang
To the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
And I've listened to what the preacher said
Now it's to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
And the preacher he stopped preaching
And a hush the church did fill
And then a great white dove from up above
Landed on the window sill
And the dove flew down beside him
And a fork appeared right in his hand
And with everybody watching
The preacher ate that bird right there and then
And now everyone got really nervous
And the preacher he did start to glow
And as we watched in disbelief
These were the words he spoke
He said now Mama's in the kitchen
And she's been there all day
And I know she's cooking something good
So let's bow our heads and pray
And he sang
To the Lord let praises be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
Now listen to what the preacher said
He said to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
And the moral of this story
Children it is plain but true
God knows if a preacher preaches long enough
Even he'll get hungry too
And he'll sing
To the Lord let praises be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
Now listen to what the preacher said
He said to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
Amen!
We might not be on top for whale penis anymore, but we own the internets when it comes to
utilitarian boobs.Awesome. Whale penis and utlitarian boobs are like the park place and boardwalk of the internet.
Not quite. I think "penis boobs" outranks them.
Dunno about "utilitarian whale", thiough.
Penis boobs is like having all four railroads. Utilitarian whale is marvin gardens I'm prety sure.
What's free parking?
Erect nipples?
Peeing in the shower has to be there somewhere.
i am of the temporary opinion that it is unkind to keep a finance manager waiting after hours while you suckle your young. i know the little fucker has to eat and all, but c'mon. get here before we close if you're gonna pull 'em out in the showroom.
Dude. If you can pull 'em out in the showroom, why can't you pull 'em out in the finance manager's office while paperwork continues?
in retrospect....i'm glad she didn't have them out in here. whook!
I haven't read all the posts so maybe you all know this already, but I just learned that Victoria's Secret kicked a nursing mother out of one of their dressing rooms and told her to breast feed in the bathroom! I mean, Victoria's Secret for the love of god! They turn a profit based on the tit! What hypocrites!
Disclaimer: I used to work for VS.
I strongly suspect that that was less a modesty issue and more an issue with crowding. During busy hours there can be *long* lines (queues) for those dressing rooms, and it isn't good business to let people use them for purposes that aren't related to shopping. After waiting in line long enough, a lot of those potential customers will just give up and go home empty-handed.
On the actual subject of the thread, I am pro-breastfeeding. I don't mind if guys sexualize boobs (fiance is a huge breast man, and I'm happy to have had an advantage in getting his attention!), but they aren't a sex organ, they are for feeding babies!
While I can understand why the ladies quoted are concerned about their husbands being able to check out naked boobs, I'm sure that most men are more likely to stare at the rack of a woman in a low-cut blouse, tight sweater or bathing suit than that of a busy nursing mother. Am I right, gentlemen?
While I can understand why the ladies quoted are concerned about their husbands being able to check out naked boobs, I'm sure that most men are more likely to stare at the rack of a woman in a low-cut blouse, tight sweater or bathing suit than that of a busy nursing mother. Am I right, gentlemen?
Nope. I like my "women" with small tits and big cocks.
yay for bewbs!
and babies!
I'm a man, and I don't have a problem with public breastfeeding, but I'm also not gonna stare. It's not my business if a mom wants to feed her kidlet, because I'd much rather have the lady with the weird towel/blanket/whatever over her at the next table than the screaming child.
I don't have any children because I'm not ready for the screaming yet.
Nope. I like my "women" with small tits and big cocks.
heh! I didn't mean that all men like boobs, just that most find a woman dressed to impress more alluring than one with 18 years of commitment clamped on. :D
II don't have any children because I'm not ready for the screaming yet.
no one is ever really prepared
I'd much rather have the lady with the weird towel/blanket/whatever over her at the next table than the screaming child.
But what if she refuses to cover the child/boob with a weird towel/blanket/whatever? After all people on solid food do not have to eat undercover....
Bonus! Dinner *and* a show. :)
It's sooo good and good for you. And your baby Now that's utility!
Study: Breast-Feeding Decreases Cancer Risk
The new findings are particularly relevant to women who give birth after age 25 and eventually have three or more children. These women have double the risk of the aggressive and hard-to-treat hormone-negative breast cancers.
"This two-fold increased risk went away when we looked only at women who breast-fed," Ursin says. "They were no longer at increased risk of breast cancer."
The mechanism is unclear. Some experts think it's because a woman is less likely to ovulate while she's breast-feeding. The fewer times a woman ovulates, the lower her risk of breast cancer.
Whatever the reason, the bottom line is clear: Breast-feeding offers broad protection against both major types of breast cancer in women of all ages.
Like I said, Bonus!
Put fresh batteries in your camera. There's going to be a
show this weekend.
An Internet chat room posting written by a South Dakota mother about her breastfeeding experience at Elitch Gardens has motivated several Colorado mothers to plan a "nurse-in" Saturday morning at the park.
I remember the breastfeeding days. I think LJ or Jinx said something about the "let down" effect. That, alone was frustrating, but add a hungry baby to the mix, and it could make things fairly difficult, to say the least. Has anyone ever tried feeding a baby in an airplane bathroom? There's barely enough room to piss in those. Plus, people stand in line to use them for what they are intended, so why use that space, when there is a perfectly good seat.
Breastfeeding a baby is never something a woman should be ashamed of and the attitude some people have seems to be there to cause shame.
Yes, I was fortunate enough to have worked at a corporation that had a lactation room and provided a breast pump. I also had a job in which I could take a break every 2 hours to pump. I would have rather had some extra maternity leave so I could have been with my son to breastfeed, but such is life. Some people don't get maternity leave.
I don't really have a point, I guess. Just that breastfeeding == good. Good is not bad and shouldn't be construed that way.
I like my breasts. :)
...
I like my breasts. :)
Sharing's nice!
Breast Milk Sugars Give Infants a Protective Coat
A large part of human milk cannot be digested by babies and seems to have a purpose quite different from infant nutrition — that of influencing the composition of the bacteria in the infant’s gut...
Many toxic bacteria and viruses bind to human cells by docking with the surface sugars. But they will bind to the complex sugars in milk instead...
let us see the genius of the strategy — mothers are recruiting another life-form to baby-sit their baby...
Such findings have made the three researchers keenly aware that every component of milk probably has a special role. “It’s all there for a purpose, though we’re still figuring out what that purpose is,” Dr. Mills said. “So for God’s sake, please breast-feed.”
So... what I might conclude is...
:::gears turning:::
:::thought slowly forming:::
That... the functions of our body, that millions of years of evolution have carefully fine-tuned... have lead to a situation where there are certain things that we SHOULD do, that would be... GOOD for us? One might say, "healthy" decisions?
:::SCOFF::: That's not what TV commercials tell me, so that can't be true.
Waitress (to Jordan): I haven’t seen you in a while.
Elliot (to waitress): Oh, she just had a baby.
Waitress: Well then, how can you be drinking? Aren’t you breast-feeding?
Jordan: I haven’t decided. Were you breast-fed?
Waitress: Of course I was.
Jordan: That is so interesting. ‘Cuz you’re a slaggy buttinski who ended up becoming a waitress for a living. Maybe breast feeding isn’t the answer…