fat vs not fat

Ok I am new so i guess... hi

If there was a 800 pound fat guy who could still move easily and was not too slow and a 200 pound guy who was muscular and was fast and they had an all out fight to the death with no rules... who would win? (they can not use weapons like bats and chairs just there bodies) ( also they are in a closed space about the size of a boxing ring)



I say the fat guy would win because the punches from the other guy would do nothing and how can the other guy move him? Plus all the fat guy needs to do is to get the other guy on the ground and get on top of him

Hi. what an incredibly weird way to say hello!

I still say the 200 pound guy would win. The 800 pound guy has hypertension and diabetes and unstable angina.

200 pounder ... more endurance overall, even if the 800 pounder would be pugilistically more skilled.

yeah, even if the 800lb'er is on top, most of his weight is still on the ground and the small guy can escape. Watch some sumo wrestling sometime, the smaller guys often win.

Why would these two be fighting? If for pizza.....

well i still say the fat guy because 200 pound man could not get him off. And plus if you are that heavy you dont have to be unhealthy.

Yeah, uh, I think its prettymuch impossible to be 800 pounds and in prime shape. If a guy three or four times your size is laying on you, only a third or a fourth of him is actually touching you, the rest is on the ground, and if youre in relatively good shape, you can wriggle out.

Trust me, I know.

i disagree

plus what if the fat guy body slams him? then its over

C'mon, dude... let's get real. How the fuck can a man weigh 800 lbs. and NOT be unhealthy? Sheesh.

Ibram how do you know?

Try signing up someone that fat to a pro sports team or the military. NOT! Wonder why.

well when i said he dosent have to be unhealthy i meant he dosent HAVE to have dieabeties

actually the Nfl is trying to hire a 802 pound african american fat guy right now

I know because, back when i was a scrawny 90-pound kid, i would get in fights with kids twice my size and sometimes age. When I didnt win, I could always squirm away and scurry off.

well the difference here is 4 times and i forgot to add they are in a closed space like a boxing ring

if the person is four times bigger that just makes it all the easier to get away. As you can see, most of the big fat dude is on the floor.

but what if the fat guy got the little guy on the floor and then body slamed him right on his stomach and then started punching him? Or what if the fat guy got the little guy on the floor and the jumped on him with both feet.

What if? What if? What if?

Find me an 800 pound dude and let me gain 70 pounds or so and we'll see. You asked my opinion, I told you. Small dude has maneuverability and is in better shape.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. :lol:

Thoose are links to pictures of emanuel yarbrough since thoose pictures he has gained weight and fat the NFL is intrested in him he already beat a 200 pound guy by laying on him and body slamming him until the 200 pound guy couldnt breathe


http://img.radio.cz/pictures/ctk/sumo1x.jpg
http://amateursumo.com/champions/yarbrough.htm
http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=13862&postcount=1


He currently weighs 808 pounds with an 88 inch waist can walk is fast.

I'll kick his fat ass.

808 pounds, of which probably what, four, five hundred is muscle? That wasnt the question.

got some mojo in the dojo

actually he was very muscular before he got fat and when he got fat the fat covered the muscle it is still there just not visible and plus he has over 400 pounds of muscle and if you were 200 pounds of muscle his 400 would beat you 200 fat would help HIM

Big difference between a sumo ring and a 53x100 yard field. Gotta catch 'em first.

He would make a good line, however. :D

i said they were in a boxing ring

True but the NFL doesn't care what you say, they make their own rules.
I mentioned it because you were using the interest of the NFL as credentials of this guys bad-ass-ness. ;)

one headbutt from Zizou and he's gonna be a 800lb speedhump.

Does nobody remember the boxing matches that were on Fox? It was 375 lb William "Refrigerator" Perry vs 7'7" and probably 150 lb. Manute Bol.

I don't remember how the fight was scored, but to me Bol won, and Perry just wound up exhausted.

thats a small difference

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Exactly, jinx. The Princess Bride trumps all other arguments anyone can make. jinx wins.

Thank you - glad I could help.
:D

but what if ....

What if we were in the real world. The fat guy has to be fast enough to pin the thin guy in the first place.....

Even on an 800 lb fat guy, there are less fat areas that are vulnerable...say, his eyes or nostrils or testicles or kneecaps. If the 200 lb guy were not just a couch potato with a beer belly, he could probably do some serious damage if he could stay just out of arm's reach.

Stormie

hugefatguy wrote:

Thoose are links to pictures of emanuel yarbrough since thoose pictures he has gained weight and fat the NFL is intrested in him he already beat a 200 pound guy by laying on him and body slamming him until the 200 pound guy couldnt breathe


http://img.radio.cz/pictures/ctk/sumo1x.jpg
http://amateursumo.com/champions/yarbrough.htm
http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=13862&postcount=1


He currently weighs 808 pounds with an 88 inch waist can walk is fast.

Do you have anything that says the NFL is interested? I only found 2 links - one that says they are interested only if he can get his weight under a quarter of a ton - http://www3.sympatico.ca/farini/peacock/pages/Aexcerpts/ThunderThighs.html

And one that actually mentions that some of NFL is interested, but there is nothing else: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/2124194.stm

What else have you found?

Just curious, because I don't think having a 770 pound man would be beneficial. Yea, not many can get past him, but he can't move real fast for real long. He would be out after a couple plays.

There seems to be an assumption that the 200 lb guy is Charles Atlas, and the fat guy is a big bowl of jelly. What is his waist size? How fast can he run a mile? The 100 yd dash?

Even if the big guy is not physically fit, all he needs is a strong grip. If the big guy can hold the little guy, he can punch him. Because of his great mass, the damage done, even at a relatively low punch speed, would be significant. If he can hold the little guy, he may be able to get on top of him. It may not be hard to squirm out from under a 200 lb guy, but 800 lbs is a very different situation. If the big guy has any kind of skill, nobody will get out from under him. As for weak areas, the 200 lb guy has eyes and testicles just like the big guy.

I'm not saying the big guy will always win - I'm saying it depends on the individual big and little guy.

but assuming an average 800 pound person, and a 200-pounder who was "muscular and was fast" as stated in the opening post... theres little contest, the 800-pounder would lose.

Don't count on it.

Anyone see last week's Deadwood?

hugefatguy wrote:

well i still say the fat guy because 200 pound man could not get him off...

because he couldn't find the fat guys hoo-hah?

well i agree with Spexxvet the big guy would win almost certinly if he has some skill. And any ways Emanuel yarbrough that 800 african american sumo was in wrestling he already beat a 200 pound guy by getting on top of him. The other guy could not get him off plus emanuel yarbrough is actually fast according to most people who wrestle him.

WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT YARBROUGH, we're talking about an average 800-pound dude.

If you has asked "who would win, an 800-pound professional wrestler or a 200-pound guy in average shape?", of COURSE the answer would be the wrestler.

hugefatguy wrote:

but what if the fat guy got the little guy on the floor and then body slamed him right on his stomach and then started punching him? Or what if the fat guy got the little guy on the floor and the jumped on him with both feet.

800 lb guys,like elephants, don't jump. make a heck of a hockey goalie, though. should be the nHl that's interested in him. total eclipse of the goal.

just how huge are you, hugefatguy? what about a 500lb fat guy vs a 300lb fat guy?

what about a 90lb weakling against a 115lb supermodel?

what about dracula vs frankenstien?


or Captain Kirk v. Picard?

The 800 pound guy wins 99 times out of 100. Maybe more.

There is no substitute for size. Its not only the percentage difference but the actual difference. Imagine a 50 pound guy against a 200 pound guy (or woman for that matter). Same percentage difference but an actual difference of 150 pounds - imagine a 600 pound difference.

The problem with fighting somebody that much bigger is that you can't get close enough to do any damage because as soon as they can grab you the fight is over. About the only strategy that would work is to circle around and attack from behind, take out the knees and get the monster on the ground. A frontal attack is suicide.

lumberjim wrote:

or Captain Kirk v. Picard?

That's a good one. Picard's brains against Kirk's brawn. My money's on Kirk.

I got Kirk too. Picard's a pussy. An effete pussy.

lumberjim wrote:

...or Captain Kirk v. Picard?

This question has been addressed in some detail here.

Just sweep the knee of the fat guy... game over.

This has gotta be the strangest thread I've ever read.

Sweep the knee of the fat guy *using* Capt Kirk, not Picard. Kirk's got some mass of his own, while that silly Frenchie would just fold up around the big guy's kneecap.

Happy Monkey wrote:

Anyone see last week's Deadwood?

Ew, yes. I won't be eating the olives in my salad now, thankyouverymuch.

Even if the 800 lb man has 4x the weight of the 200lb man, the 200lb man has the ultimate advantage of being quicker and in better physical condition. Even if the fat guy was strong and healthy, the size of his mass would be too large to move with any quickness, and the energy requirements he would need to put up a good fight would drain him in a short amount of time. The 200lb man would be like a lion attacking a lumbering elephant. Sure the elephant has the size advantage, but the lion can jump and claw and eventually beat down the elephant. He can run circles around him and stratigically place strong jabs on the fat man and that will wear him out before he can do anything back.

Beestie wrote:

There is no substitute for size.

This is simply not true.
What if the 200lb guy is wirey? What if he has the eye of the tiger?
LJ is 2-3X my size and I can easily kick his ass.

I need to know heights.

I think the fat guy quit anyway.......

Heights are the skinny guy is 5 foot 5 and the fat guy is 7 and 2 inchs

5'5" and 200 pounds of muscle? Then he's pretty damn strong.

7'2"? yeah right. How many seven foot 800-pound people could there be?

jinx wrote:

This is simply not true.
What if the 200lb guy is wirey? What if he has the eye of the tiger?
LJ is 2-3X my size and I can easily kick his ass.

Yeah, but what about before his sensitivity training?

jinx wrote:

This is simply not true.

There are always exceptions.:D

jinx wrote:

This is simply not true.
What if the 200lb guy is wirey? What if he has the eye of the tiger?
LJ is 2-3X my size and I can easily kick his ass.

kick my ass in a burping contest, maybe. but if it ever came to actual fisticuffs, you'd have a red ass, and excellent manners, posthaste.

the thing about the 800 lb.er is the padding. you can hit him as hard as you like, but a 200 lb man's inertia is simply insuficient to penetrate the protective layer of blubber in any meaningful way. while, even a glancing blow driven by 800 lbs would ring any of our bells. fatty has it, i say.

lumberjim wrote:

kick my ass in a burping contest, maybe. but if it ever came to actual fisticuffs, you'd have a red ass, and excellent manners, posthaste.

the thing about the 800 lb.er is the padding. you can hit him as hard as you like, but a 200 lb man's inertia is simply insuficient to penetrate the protective layer of blubber in any meaningful way. while, even a glancing blow driven by 800 lbs would ring any of our bells. fatty has it, i say.

I agree

so has he been tested for performance enhancing drugs yet?

All the smaller guy has to do is get his thumb behind the big guy's eyeball and pop it out, then whack him a couple of times with a board.

you left out the skull fcuking

No the skull is used by the smaller guy's boss. He has discussions with it, to assist in plotting and planning.

Alas poor Emmanuel; I knew him, Hulk Hogan.

Shocker wrote:

Even if the 800 lb man has 4x the weight of the 200lb man, the 200lb man has the ultimate advantage of being quicker and in better physical condition.

Assumption. Weight may affect speed, but not necessarily quickness.

Shocker wrote:

Even if the fat guy was strong and healthy, the size of his mass would be too large to move with any quickness, and the energy requirements he would need to put up a good fight would drain him in a short amount of time.

Assumption. Big guys are used to moving big bulk, and over time develop huge muscles, or they die. Shaq weighs something like 325 lbs. Is he quick, do you think? In shape? Got stamina?

Shocker wrote:

The 200lb man would be like a lion attacking a lumbering elephant. Sure the elephant has the size advantage, but the lion can jump and claw and eventually beat down the elephant. He can run circles around him and stratigically place strong jabs on the fat man and that will wear him out before he can do anything back.

Here's a video of 7 lions attacking an elephant. The elephant gets away in the end. It's a girl elephant, and not one of the lions is Jinx. One-on-one, I say the lions runs away, crying like a little baby.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/53090/elephant_vs_7_lions/

I still say it depends on the individuals, but average vs average, my money's on the fat guy.

Happy Monkey wrote:

All the smaller guy has to do is get his thumb behind the big guy's eyeball and pop it out, then whack him a couple of times with a board.

All the fat guy has to do is grab the little guy, get his thumb behind the little guy's eyeball and pop it out, then whack him a couple of times with a board. Or lay on him. :D

That's an amazing video, Spexxvet.:eek:
Those lions were all over her, but the thing they rely on it the choking/killing bite to the throat. Can't do that to an elephant.
I'm surprised she didn't step on one or two.

xoxoxoBruce wrote:

That's an amazing video, Spexxvet.:eek:
Those lions were all over her, but the thing they rely on it the choking/killing bite to the throat. Can't do that to an elephant.
I'm surprised she didn't step on one or two.

I saw a similar thing on Discovery Channel recently. A bunch of lions attacked a hippo and pretty much had as much time as they needed to finish the job but coudn't even make a dent. The hippo took their best shot after best shot and afterwards just trotted off while the lions just sat there scratching their heads and staring at each other.

Note to self: don't kcuf with hippos.

lumberjim wrote:

or Captain Kirk v. Picard?

It took 4 pages. Amazing restraint.

Kirk would use him like a red-headed step-son.

Griff wrote:

It took 4 pages. Amazing restraint.

Kirk would use him like a red-headed step-son.

Kirk: I'm gonna use you like a toilet, Picard, how do you want it?
Picard: Make it number 1. Please. Make soooooo number 1 that I look as yellow as Sulu!