The Testosterone Advantage Plan

Heatseeker • Jun 19, 2006 6:21 am
Has anybody else heard of (or tried) this plan?

Today is my first day on the plan.

The plan has 3 goals:

Help overweight men lose weight and get in shape
Help men who are happy with their weight but want to get in shape get in shape
Help men who want to put on weight and get in shape

I fall into the second category, I just want to look better (although I should clarify that this is not a confidence thing).

The plan gives you a 7 day eating plan and a 9 week exercise regime (lifting weights).
2 weeks for beginners to get your body ready to handle the heavier workouts.
3 weeks of more advanced techniques.
4 weeks of more specific sets and heavier weights.
Plus how to increase the workouts over time.

I'll let you know how I get on as the weeks go by.
MaggieL • Jun 19, 2006 3:49 pm
Heatseeker wrote:

The plan has 3 goals:

Help overweight men lose weight and get in shape
Help men who are happy with their weight but want to get in shape get in shape
Help men who want to put on weight and get in shape

So...that is really only one goal. It doesn't matter whether you're too heavy, not heavy enough or just right.
: wrote:

Help men who have trouble with logic puzzles and have too much money spend some money.
Help men who have trouble with logic puzzles and have about the right amount of money spend some money.
Help men who have trouble with logic puzzles and don't have enough money spend some money.
Heatseeker • Jun 20, 2006 4:41 am
Well, I eat food anyway so no extra money needed there.

I have been a member of that gym for a while anyway, I just havn't got the results I wanted so no extra money there.

The book only cost £7.99. Hardly breaks the bank.

Anyway, the question I asked is "Has anybody else heard of (or tried) this plan?" But all I got was your negativity.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 20, 2006 6:45 am
I'd never heard of that one, when was it published? Is it a UK author? :confused:
Heatseeker • Jun 20, 2006 9:28 am
It came out in the states before being released in the UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1405006692/qid=1150810028/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/203-6518665-9487134
MaggieL • Jun 20, 2006 11:27 am
Heatseeker wrote:
But all I got was your negativity.
With that kind of logic involved, how good could it possibly be? I guess where testosterone is involved, talking about logic puzzles is inherently tautological anyhow. :-)

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted. I suggest you demand your money back.
Heatseeker • Jun 20, 2006 11:51 am
Does being antagonistic make you feel special?
skysidhe • Jun 20, 2006 12:34 pm
MaggieL wrote:
With that kind of logic involved, how good could it possibly be? I guess where testosterone is involved, talking about logic puzzles is inherently tautological anyhow. :-)

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted. I suggest you demand your money back.



Maggie is actually quite funny for a brainiac. You just got to read between the lines for the left brained humor.
MaggieL • Jun 20, 2006 4:00 pm
Heatseeker wrote:
Does being antagonistic make you feel special?

No, there's no shortage of antagonistic people. But if you don't want your drivel mocked, don't post it in public fora. Sorry to hear about your testosterone shortage, although you'll be glad to know your impulsive agressiveness still seem to be working. Maybe an ED medication would help. :-)
skysidhe • Jun 20, 2006 4:18 pm
MaggieL wrote:
No, there's no shortage of antagonistic people. But if you don't want your drivel mocked, don't post it in public fora. Sorry to hear about your testosterone shortage, although you'll be glad to know your impulsive agressiveness still seem to be working. Maybe an ED medication would help. :-)



ut , oh, now ,you got her using words like 'dirvel' and 'mocked'. Now she's irked.
The partys over. The word slinging begins.

:hide:
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 20, 2006 7:54 pm
Heatseeker simply asked if anyone had heard of or tried the regimen. That's hardly grounds for a personal attack.

If you've tried it, know someone who's tried it, or simply see flaws in it, disagree with it's premise, say so. :eyebrow:
MaggieL • Jun 20, 2006 9:44 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:

If you've tried it, know someone who's tried it, or simply see flaws in it, disagree with it's premise, say so. :eyebrow:

I thought the pitch sounded whifty, and said so. The thread looks like viral marketing to me...and that's not the first time Heatseeker's threads have been suspected of it, especially at that thread-to-post ratio. Until he started complaining about my comment, anyway. You could always go to the main site and order a copy....they're currently giving away free copies of their other other books "The Real Man's Survival Guide" and "Seduce Her In Seconds".

Did you really expect something called "The Testosterone Advantage Plan" to pass without wisecracks here? :-)
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 21, 2006 4:49 am
[HTML]The thread looks like viral marketing to me[/HTML]I had the same thought, but without a link or singing it's praises, it's borderline.
I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt. It wouldn't be the first clumsy entrance by a noob. :D
Heatseeker • Jun 21, 2006 8:28 am
Ah but you see testosterone actually has little to do with the plan it is just called that because it is marketed towards, wait for it... men.
MaggieL • Jun 21, 2006 9:23 am
Heatseeker wrote:
Ah but you see testosterone actually has little to do with the plan it is just called that because it is marketed towards, wait for it... men.

Then the advertising is at least deceptive if not fraudulent:

the main website wrote:

Boosting your testosterone is the key to shedding fat and building lean muscle. THE TESTOSTERONE ADVANTAGE PLAN is a revolutionary program unlike any you've ever seen.

The step-by-step eating plan and workout program will turn up your testosterone levels naturally-without drugs or supplements-resulting in the lean, muscular physique you've always wanted.

TRANSFORM YOUR BODY WITH TESTOSTERONE!

For decades, bodybuilders have known that testosterone builds muscle, burns belly fat, and increases the effectiveness of any workout. You don't have to resort to steroids to boost your testosterone levels. All you have to do is make some slight modifications in the way you work out and the way you eat-and you can send your testosterone levels through the roof!

"The thing I notice the most is that I have so much more energy to do the things I want to do. I spend more quality time with my wife now. I'd say our love life is back to what it was when we first started dating 8 years ago!" -Gregg Kemler, Information Analyst

17 Guys. 9 Weeks. All Reported An Increased Sex Drive!

Kitsune • Jun 21, 2006 1:11 pm
All you have to do is make some slight modifications in the way you work out and the way you eat-and you can send your testosterone levels through the roof!


Awesome -- it removes both unwanted fat and the hair from your head, too!
rkzenrage • Jun 21, 2006 5:40 pm
I hope it works for anyone on it... it does nothing for me, but nothing they have tried does. My body just flushes it along with the calcium and the bone that is disintegrating. They can't give me any more than they are now.
MaggieL • Jun 22, 2006 7:11 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Awesome -- it removes both unwanted fat and the hair from your head, too!
There's a reason it's called male pattern baldness. There's also a reason that the active in Propecia (finasteride) for baldness is the same as in Proscar (for prostate hypertrophy). It's a testosterone blocker. That's why both Proscar and Propecia bear vague warnings...

Women who are pregnant or may get pregnant must not handle broken or crushed finasteride tablets; the active ingredient could harm the unborn baby. If a pregnant woman comes into contact with broken or crushed finasteride tablets she should check with her prescriber or health care professional.


...exposure can cause intersex conditions because of the testosterone blockage.
rkzenrage • Jun 22, 2006 7:22 pm
Yeah, none of my testosterone treatments in the past or present can ever be handled by pregnant women.
MaggieL • Jun 22, 2006 7:47 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
Yeah, none of my testosterone treatments in the past or present can ever be handled by pregnant women.

OK...I'm confused. Finasteride is a testosterone *blocker*. Your treatments are intended to *enhance* testosterone, no?
rkzenrage • Jun 22, 2006 8:50 pm
No, my treatments are just intended to put some into my system.
Elspode • Jun 22, 2006 9:04 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
Yeah, none of my testosterone treatments in the past or present can ever be handled by pregnant women.

I know that this is a very serious subject and all, but I can't help but find some sort of adolescent humor in this statement... :)
MaggieL • Jun 22, 2006 10:24 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
No, my treatments are just intended to put some into my system.
Well, yeah...that's what I meant. To try return your T-sterone to normal male levels.

T-sterone/estrogen balance is a subject I'm kinda familiar with. That's why I know about finasteride. :-)
Heatseeker • Jun 23, 2006 4:06 am
OK the penny just dropped.

Now I get it.
rkzenrage • Jun 23, 2006 3:15 pm
Elspode wrote:
I know that this is a very serious subject and all, but I can't help but find some sort of adolescent humor in this statement... :)

It's funny... no doubt.
Heatseeker • Jun 26, 2006 5:04 am
Week 1

I feel more energetic during the day and I sleep better at night

I have lost 2lb

My sexual appitite has increased
Kitsune • Jun 26, 2006 9:16 am
Heatseeker wrote:
My sexual appitite has increased


Look out, ladies! "The missile is armed"!
MaggieL • Jun 26, 2006 9:39 am
Kitsune wrote:
Look out, ladies! "The missile is armed"!
"The Incredible Heat-seeking Moisture Missile!" -- Robin Williams

I guess that explains the nickname. :-)
Heatseeker • Jun 26, 2006 10:02 am
Boom boom :-P
csanti • Feb 15, 2007 10:55 am
After reading this book I was convinced that their theory, in theory, could work. It did. However, this was my life for 6 months. As with any diet, Exercise and determination are the only cultivating facts that will lose you weight. Sticking to this diet was simple. The food was good and I lost 60lbs. Now I believe without exercise I would have lost much less, but eating became somewhat normal and not too much like a diet. Hope this helped.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 18, 2007 7:40 pm
Welcome to the Cellar, csanti. :D
We're always happy to get first person experience.

You can't avoid the basic law, if there's more calories coming in than going out, the extra will be stored in an unflattering manor.
Beestie • Feb 18, 2007 11:56 pm
xoxoxoBruce;316831 wrote:
You can't avoid the basic law, if there's more calories coming in than going out, the extra will be stored in an unflattering manor.

I wish my house could do that. You know - like I buy more stuff and my house automatically gets bigger to hold it all.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 19, 2007 4:44 am
Should have built it with..... fatty, fatty, two by fours. :blush: