Weight-Loss Thread
Good morning. It is tomorrow and I am starting my day under the premise that I can eat like a normal human woman and not some sort of disgusting pig. I promise to tell the truth about my progress and my exercise routine (which, up till today, has been pretty much 'lie on the couch and watch TV)
Anyone who wishes to join me, come on in!
And good luck for today. All we have to do is eat reasonably TODAY. That's my goal.
And, walk.
I promise too. to be clear, I will post everything that passes my lips ( on the way in) and everything i consider to be excercise. You may get sick of this thread. tough.
FWIW, personally, I have found that, no matter what the people say, the exercise is *optional*.
It takes an enormous amount of walking to make up 100 calories of intake and 100 calories is nothing to a food addict.
Exercise is important it turns out, but I found that demanding BOTH eating well and exercise at the same time was too much responsibility. Too much reason to fail.
Plus, it was always a route to rationalization. Of course I can eat this cake. I will exercise tomorrow. And tomorrow I will find another rationalization, until I fail completely.
I kind of am like UT. My diet consists of me not eating cassaroles yet I do pick up unhealthy things to eat sometimes. I work two jobs and walk the whole time during one, thus the indulgence. When I do exercise it is usually pilates which I find helpful.I've taught myself how to make healthy dishes the last two years but I don't really eat that much. So I'll observe before I decide if it is right for me to participate.
goodluck guys
Exercise is important it turns out, but I found that demanding BOTH eating well and exercise at the same time was too much responsibility. Too much reason to fail.
Try what I did -- small changes. Don't start jogging in the morning, every morning. Instead, take the stairs in place of the elevator. Don't try to ride your bike to work, but try parking your car in the remote area of the parking lot and walking in. Take a walk before or after lunch around your office. It all adds up and eventually you'll get to the point where you'll feel great doing more, more often. You might even actually want to wake up early to walk with the sunrise! (This is a recent surprise for me and it is a habit I hope I stick with! Early mornings are beautiful!)
Drink coffee, not soda.
Drink
plenty of water.
Eat vegetables and fruit.
Move around each day, even just a little.
Don't eat anything three hours before you sleep for the night.
Watch the movie "Supersize Me". Be afraid.
Another tip: Try going hungry for just a several hours to feel what it is like to have a totally empty stomach. If you can't feel this feeling on a normal basis without getting dizzy/faint, check with your doctor. A lot of people don't realize that you should be able to go hungry without feeling miserable. Once you're empty for awhile, eat something healthy. (Pasta, salad, steamed vegetables over rice.) Do this until you get used to satisfying cravings with good food instead of junk.
I don't do a lot of activity, but these small changes made to my life of sitting in an office chair for eight hours a day resulted in a loss of 30 pounds in one year. I've been at 157lbs for more than three years because of it and I'm now working on getting in shape. (it's going to take awhile)
I second what Kitsune said except Drink tea instead of coffee or soda -- less caffeine. And when you do feel hungry between regularly scheduled meals, drink something instead of eating -- water is best.
Take it slow with the exercise. It is easy to burn out if you try too hard too soon. Eventually you want to work in some aerobic exercise (heartrate of >120 bpm). For me I try to ride my bike or use a stationary equipment at least once a day reaching 120 bpm for 15-20 min. It took about 4 months to work up to that level -- I lost about 45lbs. from 230.
On the whole "move around more" topic, try this. Once an hour or so, stand up nice and straight. Take three deep slow breaths, and do four or five deep knee bends. If you have your own office, maybe do ten quick push-ups. This makes your body think it's about to do something active and gives your metabolism a small bump. Chase this with a glass of water. These little bumps during the day will keep you from getting that bogged down feeling. I've been doing this for about a month now, and it's kept me from going into a food-coma after lunch. The hard part has been remembering to do it, so I've got my email reminding me during the day.
i think i could get away with that.
breakfast:
whole wheat bagel w/cream cheese, 1 banana, lrg coffee w/cream no sug.
I second what Kitsune said except Drink tea instead of coffee or soda -- less caffeine.
I only stated this because if you're used to drinking soda, you'll be more likely to burn out without the caffiene. But it is still a good idea if you can do it!
The heart rate thing helped me out a lot, too. When I do go out on the bicycle, I found out with a Polar monitor that I over exert myself if I don't pay attention. Staying in the correct range means the difference between a fun day out and extreme misery.
Does anyone else here completely skip breakfast? I've been told repeatedly it is a bad idea, but I've done it for years.
I eat a huge bowl of Wheaties for breakfast every day. It's kind of a running joke in my family that I always eat Wheaties. My day never really gets started unless I eat a breakfast. I need it to function right.
I'm not so worried about the weight loss, but I like the idea of getting up from your desk at regular intervals to get the blood pumping. That's one thing I really need to work on. At the end of the 9 hour day sitting at the desk, I feel like the life blood has been sucked out of me.
Oh, also, I'm a little jittery at times. I may bounce/tap my leg or something for a while just for fun. Like a teenager with pent up energy. I've read that fidgeting around like that can burn off more calories than than deliberately exercising once or twice a week.
whole wheat bagel w/cream cheese, 1 banana, lrg coffee w/cream no sug.
Weight Watchers point values:
whole wheat bagel = 4 pts
cream cheese = 2 pts
banana = 2 pts
cream = 1 pt (if it was real cream)
9 points total on the weight watchers system. (You are probably allotted about 35 for the day.)
And I add, weight maintenance would be an excellent reason to keep the Cellar in one's allowed-to-browse list. The equivalent of saying "This is a safety issue, not a warranty issue" to a service department.
Oh, when I say "you are probably allotted 35 points", that's not good enough.
It's like, 250 lbs = 35 points, 275 lbs = 37, 300 lbs = 39 and so on. And this is of course a vast oversimplification.
can i count on you to tabulate my points on a consistent basis? j/k
If you felt like it would be helpful, I would definitely do that.
It's edumacational, plus it's like a support group sort of.
But it's scary, it's like putting yourself out there man.
Ok - I'm in.
I am trying to do a low carb kind of a thing. Nothing structured - just watching my caloric intake, and trying to steer away from sugar & bad carbs.
This is not an easy thing for a bread-a-holic like me!
Breakfast today: 2 scrambled eggs & 1 breakfast sausage.
well, i'm not scared of that.
i think my main problems are portion size, and timing.
LUNCH:
turkey reuben wrap(turkey, tortilla, slaw, 1000 island) 10 steak fries
too large a portion. damn tasty tho
Wrap: est. 12 points (tortilla 2, turkey 4, slaw 2, dressing 4)
Fries: est. 6 points
lunch = 18
total for day = 27
nothing to drink?
let me know when this is annoying
. noob here..
This is a good idea. I was a member of a martial arts forum, and often people would do this kind of thing in their journal. Which was of course great for accountability if you thougth people actually read your journal.
Mind if I join in? Accountability with me is a huge issue. I just bought this urban rebounder thing (basically a mini tramp with an excersize video) and while I promised myself to do it at LEAST 3 times a week, im not even doing that.
Recording that as well as my food intake may embarass me into being good:)
I love this thread idea! Thanks, Bri for getting the ball rolling! Like you, I did Atkins, did really well, went off, and all went to hell. It's too easy to get bored on it, but it worked for me. I need to find something else that works.
Breakfast:
Special K
Dannon light and fit strawberry yogurt
Lunch:
BLT - no mayo
Fries - nice sized portion, not greasy
water
Snack:
2 fannie may mint meltaways - had to finish the box.
As for exercise - I walked to the bus stop - 3 blocks and I will probably do the same when I go home. I need to get back on my bike.
Breakfast-Slimfast shake (the Optima kind) had this at 8:00
Lunch turkey/lettuce/tomato on bread with mayo/diet coke ate at 4:00 (was famished!)
4:00 had a hot chocolate (bad! but, it's rainy and gloomy here and my whole self hurts)
Exercise--walked all over campus.
I'll try to do better tomorrow. It's a LOT of planning, planning, planning so you have healthy on hand and don't get starved and eat an entire pizza.
Phoo. All of this is making me take a close look at what I've packed in my lunch, today. I don't like what I see.
Fries - nice sized portion, not greasy
Just out of curiosity, where do you find french fries that are not greasy? Aren't the two inseparable since, you know, they're "fries"?
Non-greasy fries have the grease on the inside.
Wrap: est. 12 points (tortilla 2, turkey 4, slaw 2, dressing 4)
Fries: est. 6 points
lunch = 18
total for day = 27
nothing to drink?
let me know when this is annoying
just h2o
had another coffee at 3pm with cream
-welcome in, munchkin.
Oh I am beginning to realize my downfall...... grazing while cooking dinner. I start preparing dinner and I take a bite of this, a pinch of that. I think I need to wear big cooking mitts the whole time so I don't touch anything.
Dinner( too late [10:30]at night, which i think is part of my problem)
Turkey sandwich on wheat toast with american cheese, lettuce tomato and " a little bit" of mayo from wawa, and a blueberry yogurt.
You're right LJ, you really should try and eat no later than 7.30pm-8pm, as your body starts to shut down its metabolism for the nite and its too easy for your body to store that food as fat.
The other thing you could do is make your main meal at lunch? then just have a light dinner?
I've done a couple of nutrition courses and the first thing we tell everybody who wants to be accountable for their food intake...is to go buy a little calorie counting book...it makes things sooooo much easier and you will be amazed at the food choices you can make daily that will make a whole heap of difference.
Good luck everybody :D
Turkey sandwich = 9 pts (3 pts bread, 2 pts chz, 2 pts turkey 2 pts mayo) (mayo is one pt per teaspoon, it kills you)
Yogurt = depends on size, usu. 3 pts
Total for day = 40
Caloric equivalent = roughly 2000
The time of eating, I ignore that. I guess it's more satisfying to spend your hungry hours asleep but in the end I feel it's just eating fewer calories per day than you burn. Most solid food takes 24 hours to get through your digestive system anyway.
4 pretzel rods, 1 tiny little orange
Why are you up so early, lj?
I hope I can stick to it today. god, I'm a weak person.
Last night I wanted a doughnut soooo bad I could practically taste the damn thing. I didn't go get one, though. :donut: It's all about small victories.
not so early, so late. got home at 11pm, and i'm off today. you didn;t have any dinner?
Nothing to eat so far today, medium coffee... will have PB&J for lunch... trying to drink as much water as possible...
will note tonights food and excersize tomorrow :)
breakfast. same as yesterday, Whole wheat bagel w/cc, banana, coffe w cream....oh, and a capri sun grape juice.
not so early, so late. got home at 11pm, and i'm off today. you didn;t have any dinner?
Oh! as for dinner, I had another slimfast optima shake and then I ate about 12 french fries (I made them for my son)
Sigh.
today, nothing but coffee so far and I MUST eat soon. This is when the drinking devil rears his head--mid morning when I haven't eaten (I know that sounds weird, but I used to work 7p-7a shifts and I always drank in the morning and THEN went to bed.) Must. Get. Food. In. Self.
9 points now you need to go out to the store and look for whipped cream cheese.
This very fine food product comes in a plastic tub like the old margarine tubs, but it's gray like the cream cheese packaging color.
It seems to be the very same food product as regular cream cheese, except with air mixed in. The air has no calories. This permits you to use two tablespoons of it for 60 calories. 1.5 T on your bagel loses you a point on the WW system, with no fake taste.
Grape juice has roughly the same caloric level as soda. Points depend on the calories, one point per 50 calories. 12 oz is 3 points, generally... a tetrapak is probably 2.
ah. see my bagel comes from dunkin donuts. i usually dont have time to make breakfast. i need to figure out a protien for the morning that i can eat on the go, and not have to cook. maybe i'll boil some eggs, or something
What about those portable containers of Breakstone's Cottage Cheese? That's a protein and filling, too.
ah. see my bagel comes from dunkin donuts. i usually dont have time to make breakfast. i need to figure out a protien for the morning that i can eat on the go, and not have to cook. maybe i'll boil some eggs, or something
wow, nice sentence.
missing punctuation, lower case letters. disjointed run on thoughts. You're learning :p
No. He's lightheaded from cutting down on food.
Dinner last night: Leftover pasta with meatsauce - maybe about a cup of that. Not a lot. For a snack - I had a blueberry muffin, but I ate it really slow and enjoyed it.
Breakfast - same as yesterday - special K and black cherry yogurt
Lunch - 5 boneless wings, celery.
Exercise - walking up and down the stairs at work with and without stuff in my arms.
My goal is no cookies or candy this afternoon.
lunch: steamed chicken and shrimp with broccoli, carrots, snow peas and white rice and a bunch of edemame.
Depends how much. Uncooked rice is 150 cals per 1/4 cup and generally doubles, so one "serving" of rice is generally 300 cals or 6 pts. The chicken is apx 1 pt per ounce so maybe 4. These veggies are free and I don't know about edemame at all.
That's the first time I've seen edamame written as a word. We eat it a lot at home, and say the word all the time, but I'd never seen it written. At first I was wondering what the hell you were eating, and then slowly it dawned on me.
At first I was wondering what the hell you were eating, and then slowly it dawned on me.
I'm still wondering :neutral:
Soy beans, steamed and salted.
I am at that "beginning of the diet" stage where you feel like you have poofed up more than anything else. I've been drinking tons of water, and I have not had a single bread related item in a week, but I feel gross. I think my body is going into survival mode & storing what it can.
I had a scrambled egg for breakfast
4 oz grilled steak & 1/2 tomato for lunch
1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese for a snack
1 tortilla-free taco for dinner
I still haven't bought a scale yet, but I know that I feel better.
Yabbut see the thing is, if you don't eat enough your metabolism will in fact slow down, making it harder to lose weight, and that's not enough...
dinner was a turkey hoagie with cheese
1 buffalo wing, and a couple bites of jinx's cheesesteak.
oink oink
i'm on my 3rd captain and diet canada dry.
going for a walk in a moment ( 1.5 mi.)
going for a walk in a moment ( 1.5 mi.)
I would like to bring up a diet which is avocated by the medical columnist in our newspaper. It is so simple and so easy that you will not understand why you didn't do it before.
Dr. Peter H. Gott says ALL you need to do is completely eliminate all flour and refined sugar from your food intake. Easy to remember, easy enough when you get used to thinking that way. You don't count calories, carbs, grams, fats, or colored flash cards, you simply do not pick up anything with flour or refined sugar in it. Read the label if you are not sure, but you KNOW the bagels, turkey dressing, pasta, twinkies, and chocolate cake are out, but the cream cheese and fruit juice is not, UNLESS it has been sweetened. The breakfast cereal and french fries are iffy, better read the label to be sure no WHEAT is in it. It seems that wheat is one of the most damaging things we eat, it is really not digestible or beneficial, and many of us are just plain allergic to it and do not even realize why our bodies are bloated all the time when this ingredient is in almost everything we are eating during the day.
People have been writing in to Dr. Gott for years to tell their stories, how the weight just fell off them once they got their mind adjusted to skipping those two ingredients. If I can find a url link to his information, I will post it here.
I read in... I think it was the Washington Post that a new, very good diet idea is to simply eat exactly what you want. Before you put something in your mouth (heh) ask yourself, "Do I reeeeeeally want this?" if the answer is no, then don't eat it. Your body knows what it needs, 90-odd percent of the time. If you only eat what you reeally want, then you're good to go.
Hm, I think I want to start eating a little better - a little less junk, a little more healthy stuff. Not so much for weight as for health, but I'm gonna post here anyway, kay? Kay.
Breakfast - Bagel with cream cheese, Nestea.
Lunch - Two slices of cheese pizza with parmesan cheese, no drink.
I'll probably drink a root beer when I get home, and eat a bowl of tostidos and salsa con queso, or maybe make a bowl of spaghetti and parmesan.
New eating habits start tomorrow. I hope.
Dr. Gott does not seem to have an online column. So I copied some pertinent letters from several newspapers which Google found:
DEAR DR. GOTT: For the second time, I am trying your "no flour, no sugar" diet. I eat no refined sugar, flour products or potatoes.
It isn't working. My weight has stabilized at 176. Also, my brother has not had success with your diet.
Could it be that we are not drinking enough water?
DEAR READER: No weight-loss diet guarantees results. In patients with genetically determined obesity, for example, special provisions — such as stricter dieting — may be necessary.
Based on the thousands of letters I have received from satisfied patients who have had success with my "no flour, no sugar" diet, I continue to encourage its use because it is overwhelmingly effective, inexpensive and easy to follow. (Water consumption is a matter of preference; it should not affect your weight.) I see from your letter that you avoid refined sugar. This is not enough. No sugar means just that. Along with cane sugar, you must avoid corn syrup (a commercial sweetener), maple syrup, molasses and other sweets. Milk sugar (lactose) and fruit sugar (fructose) are OK.
In addition, potatoes contain neither flour nor sugar — so why restrict them?
If you choose to follow my diet, act like a lawyer. Pick out (and avoid) the products with flour and sugar by reading labels. If the edibles contain flour, it is a "no-no." If, in contrast, it contains — for example — cornmeal, rice or wheat germ, it is acceptable.
DEAR DR. GOTT: You know, you make it sound so easy to just stop eating flour and sugar. Have you ever been morbidly obese? It isn't as easy as just stopping eating. If you do, it doesn't always work as well as you say. Ever since my mother saw your column, she's like, "You can do it if you want to." Thanks a lot.
DEAR READER: Your mother is correct: you can do anything if you want to. Perhaps this realization, if you accept it, could make a huge difference in your future health. For sure, no one can do it for you, so if you tend to blame other people for your lack of success, quit. Admit your obesity and deal with it.
Do some people suffer from genetic overweight? Yes. Are they likely to lose weight simply by dieting? No. Are they often helped by following a reasonable and inexpensive diet? Yes — for while. Could they drop a few pounds and keep them off? Absolutely. While my "no flour, no sugar" diet seems very easy to follow, some patients have a problem with it because of genetic factors. In such instances, I recommend a recommitment to the diet plan, or any other weight-loss program, with close medical supervision.
To give you related information, I am sending you a copy of my Health Report "Losing Weight," which includes my "no flour, no sugar" diet. Other readers who would like a copy should send a long, self-addressed, stamped envelope and $2 to Newsletter, P.O. Box 167, Wickliffe, OH 44092. Be sure to mention the title.
I like this no flour, no sugar idea. Esp. as it allows me to have milk and OJ (two things I really, reeeeeeeally missed on Atkins)---and, you get potatoes, too! I shall try.
Today--egg, small piece of canadian bacon for breakfast. Lj-how can you drink and then GO FOR A WALK? Ugh!
I like this no flour, no sugar idea.
Someone has to explain to me why flour, something mankind has consumed for thousands of years, is suddenly off-limits. Same with sugar. I'm going to continue baking bread and enjoying it.
Really -- no milk, no OJ? These fad diets have gone mad!
Eat less, exercise.dinner: a bowl of grits (two packets, instant), a root beer, and about three seasoned spuds (potato wedges). Oh, yeah, and about 1500 mL of Nestea.
Turkey hoagie w cheese depends on the mayo. The roll is probably 8 points, the cheese 2 pts per slice, the turkey 1 pt per slice. The mayo is 1 pt per teaspoon so a large slag of it is as much as 6 pts.
Buffalo wings are Right Out, probably 1 pt each.
Cheesesteaks are Right Out, probably 1 pt per bite.
You have to do what works for you. For me, I would *order* the turkey and cheese and then eat half of it. Because I'm weird. This is wasteful, but so is eating it.
A mile and a half of walking gets you back 3 pts worth. A slice and a half of cheese.
breakfast...2 oz cottage chs 2%; banana, coffee w cream
Hmmm, breakfast was two cups of coffee and a granola bar.
Scrambled eggs for breakfast again.
Hey - I've been doing this diet for about a week, and like I said, I don't own a scale. I weighed myself at my sister's house last night, and I actually weigh about 15lbs less than I though!! Woooot!
Depends how much. Uncooked rice is 150 cals per 1/4 cup and generally doubles, so one "serving" of rice is generally 300 cals or 6 pts. The chicken is apx 1 pt per ounce so maybe 4. These veggies are free and I don't know about edemame at all.
If I remember correctly - Edemame are 1 point. (Soybeans)
And good to get that 'crunch' you crave sometimes.
Cottage chs does good. 1 pt for 2 oz, 2 pts banana, 1 pt cream. That's a WW breakfast! The cheese will keep you until lunch.
BIG BURRITO FOR LUNCH.
i'm a sucker for mexican. two fist sized. chicken, cheese, brown rice, sour cream, chicken, pintos, tomato, chilli peppers. uffff
i have chips and guac for later, too. yummy. guac is what ....50 or 60 points a spoon?
i may have to go back on atkins. i like the no wheat idea, tho. makes sense to me.
Yeah that's basically your whole day right there. I'm gonna guess 30 points the lot and there's just no excuse for the snacks. In a way you set yourself up with the breakfast. This is the hardest thing in the goddamn world, that's why I go for the weigh-in every week, and pay my money, because otherwise I can't do it.
I find that I feel better if I avoid white flour foods and opt for the wheat vari,eties of things instead - it's nice that brown rice, whole wheat pasta and the like are a lot easier to find now.
That said - Dinner last night:
Baked chicken coated in Heart Smart Bisquick
Supermac & cheese - whole grain pasta, I only had a half a serving
lots of steamed green beans - they were super good!
Dessert - cookies and ice cream - I shared!
Breakfast:
Special K, yogurt and a diet pepsi.
I'll eat lunch here in a bit - not sure what - there is this great bakery right down the street. :neutral:
I've been seriously tossing around the idea that I have an eating disorder. I'm not bulimic or anorexic… I don’t know what to call it. I hide my food. I eat in my car when driving to or from work. Usually icky fast food which makes me feel sick afterwards. I’ll eat snacks at my desk but keep them in the drawer where nobody can see. I have a stash of goodies hidden in the bottom of our pantry at home. I think that’s about it.
I’d love to post all my “meals” here… Maybe it will help me to THINK before I eat.
So far today: one cup instant orange cappuccino and a peanut butter Power Bar.
My weight was 128# last weekend. I’ll re-weigh tonight. And I GOTTA get some exercise!
Thank you for starting this thread. :)
Someone has to explain to me why flour, something mankind has consumed for thousands of years, is suddenly off-limits. Same with sugar. I'm going to continue baking bread and enjoying it.
Kit, not everybody has the same metabolism. You may not have a problem with wheat, but billions of people worldwide do. It is just plain not digestible compared to many other things like potatoes and rice. It really causes you to "pack on" the insulation, something which might have once been desirable in some climates and economic conditions. The reason wheat is such a pervasive part of the American diet is found in history. The grain of the Bible and of Egypt was NOT our wheat. What they called "corn" (sometimes translated in contemporary texts as "wheat") in those days was a wild grain common in the hot middle east. Wheat is a COLD climate grain, and it became popular in such northern climates as England. When this country was colonized, they brought the wheat with them, it grows great in the northern Midwest as we all know. We also know that nowdays it is a bleached and adulterated product in many cases and is used as a cheap filler in many processed or frozen ready-to-eat products. In other words, it's not the whole-grain wheat which is evil, it's what we have done with it and how we use it in our foods.
Americans had also tried to introduce wheat into indigenous diets as a substitute for corn. Especially in Mexico, where corn tortillas were a staple of life, there has been a great campaign to switch to flour tortillas (wheat) on the logic that is it more nutritious. But the fact is that the epidemic of obesity - worldwide - did not exist until the switch to processed American-type foods, many of which contained wheat flour, began in the 20th century. Many native tribes were characterized in folk art as having plump women, this is true, but it was a symbol of prosperity and not bad diet. Now the wide availability of junk food, made from wheat flour and sugar, has turned all ages and both sexes even in the poorest countries into walking bowling balls. It is obvious that these people do not have MORE to eat nowdays and that is why they are becoming fat, it's that they have easy access to the WRONG things to eat, namely wheat and sugar.
I am not a chemist and can't explain to you with charts and diagrams why this happens inside the human body, and why it happens to some people more than others. I can only say that in many people these two food elements are a deadly combination. Take them out of your diet, and, all other things being equal, you will lose weight. Although potato chips and avocado dip would be allowable under such a regimen, and fried chicken too provided you did not bread the meat with flour (so no KFC), we have to hope that a person is not so mentally unbalanced that this is all they would eat. Somewhere a brain has be be involved in any diet. If you sit on your ass in front of a TV during every waking hour, stuffing your face with all the foods which do not contain flour or sugar, would you honestly claim you were trying to lose weight? Yes, exercise, even if you only walk 5 blocks a day to and from the bus or across the campus. But eating the best foods for your body to process also makes exercise easier and more pleasant.
Lunch today I drove right past Taco Bell and to the Italian deli by my office. I had a sandwich - sourdough bread (less bread than the giant Italian roll), swiss cheese, mayo, lettuce, tomato, pickles, onion. sour cream & cheddar Ruffles (I was GONNA get baked Lays, but they only had "original" flavor :sick: They're just weird). And a Diet Arizona Green Tea, also :sick: I HATE diet drinks. I'll just have water or make my own tea from now on.
Am beginning to see my down fall pattern: I wait tooooo long to eat, feel dizzy and sick and like I must eat RIGHT NOW then stuff myself with inappropriate junk like white bread, pasta, dairy. Must not have these hypoglycemic moments. Must plan.
Also, I'm pretty sure I'm a carb addict.
Some of the pain of dieting is considering it a self-punishment. Or viewing it in a negative sort of way -- saying that you're NOT ALLOWED to have something, or that you're DENYING yourself things, or that you're TOO FAT TO EAT THIS FOOD, or etc...
It's all a bundle of negativity, and when you fail that's another dose of negativity. It's a self image thing and by the time you rationalize that you suck, it doesn't matter if you eat too much. The only thing that you know makes you feel good, is to eat the second half of that hoagie.
But there is a fact that you can't deny: when dieting, you're being GOOD to yourself. You're feeding yourself the right way, doing a positive thing, and all the negativity swirling around the situation is just a bunch of nonsense, so meaningless compared to the actual reality of living better.
Some people are motivated by goals and stuff, enh not me so much. Although the weekly weigh-in number becomes very motivational. You know what really motivates me right now? I want to be good in the sack.
It's one of those life things I guess - man before I was divorced this was not a big motivator. At all, I mean like I pretty much wrote it off. But J and I, well, we get it done. Now I'm not sayin' I lack right now, you could ask her. But I know that if I didn't have this big tire around my waist, I could really get 'er done, and not be all huffin' and puffin' myself.
Oh OK I'm only half serious. Maybe three-quarters serious. And hey maybe being more fit for my babe is part of the equation too. But my point is, if'n I could really get 'er done, that would be waaaaay better than eating the other half of that hoagie, you know?
Just have to remember that when I finish the first half of it. You know - the whole decision-making process is hard and when lunchtime comes around, you don't want to sit there and fidget with yourself trying to remember the whole argument in order to make the right decision. But if you simplify, and say hey, if I don't eat the whole thing I'ma get laid out of my skull, well then you're playing basic fundamental human needs against one another.
VERY well said, UT! That motivates me a LOT. I long for the day I can wear some pretty lingerie (or not) and not be uncomfortable.
Ok, dinner. I made taco salad. Ground turkey (because it's lean and I'm not a big beef eater anyway) cooked with a taco seasoning packet (lots of sodium, must remember to get the low sodium kind next time), kidney beans, cheese, tons of lettuce, sour cream, avocado, tomato, salsa and a few Fritos on top. *burrrp* Wow, that was good. Oh, and a glass of OJ.
2 or 3 oz of turkey lunchmeat, 2 pickle spears, handful of mixed nuts and a fig newton for dinner.
oh, and i gave most of my chips and guac to the secretaries.
breakfast: 2 oz cottage cheese, 2%; 1 banana; coffe w/ cream
lunch: taco salad(ground beef, tomato, sour cream, hot sauce, lettuce, cheese, 1 egg, cukes)
i'm going to work on eating slower and stopping before i'm full. i have a compulsion to clean my plate. i believe this is childhood based, irrational behavior. i always feel shitty after i stuff myself, but i do it a lot.
The mentality of the "clean plate" is hard to break. I tend to eat a lot slower now than I used to, I tend to talk more during meals too, so that slows me down. Now if I eat with people who talk a lot, I'm always done first.
Since today is Friday, I feel that I do not need to divulge anything - lol.
Hopefully I'll ingest some good liquids today.
caved in and had 2 pieces of pizza for dinner. a few pickle spears for a late night snack.
Brianna? are you still with me?
I also knew a Systems Manager at IBM who lost 40 pounds in less than a year by only cutting out the beer and not changing anything else in his life. He said if they had not invented "light" beer he would have gained 40 instead. So if you are going to drink, better read up on the carbs or calories on that stuff too because that might be where your worst plateau is.
Brianna? are you still with me?
Oh, yes. I'm gonna do *this*--no bread, pasta, potatoes, noodles, rice. That's going to help me. Lots of low fat yogurt, cottage cheese (I don't gorge on it) veggies, fruit in it's natural state and meat/salad combos. I went to a high school production of the Music Man yesterday and was actually UNCOMFORTABLE sitting in the theatre seat. OMG. It's always worse than I think it is! :eek:
*pokes thread with stick*
so, uhhh, everybody's come off the wagon?
Protein shakes can help take off the fat. They sell this stuff at Wal-Mart in the pharmacy area. Whey Protein is what I use. The chocolate tastes better than the vanilla. It's about 100 calories per serving. I drink one late in the afternoon, when the hunger starts creeping in.
Fat Man Walking from Oceanside, CA, to New York City. At 410 pounds and battling depression, he had a long trip ahead of him. From "Steve's Story":
Nuts you say? Well, maybe.
But how nutty is spending a fortune on miracle weight loss drugs or fad diets that never seem to have lasting results or dangerous surgeries that cost about the same as a luxury car?
Living your life without health insurance because you are considered too high risk.
What about the fact that only 3% of weight loss attempts are permanently successful?
What about the anxiety, depression and pain involved in everyday activities when you are fat?
I don’t want to miss out on birthdays, graduation, marriages and grandkids because I chose not to take my life back.
That, to me, is nuts.
Really amazing stuff, as he is
only 10 miles from his goal, today.
fiddy cents sez he turns around and walks back.
Well I'm back from Thailand (where I lived off rice, prettymuch), so I'll start updating here again like I said I would
Breakfast: 1 nestea, 2 bagels w/cream cheese
lunch: 1 nestea, maybe a slice of pizza later
How are ye all doing so well? Im finding this very hard!
How are ye all doing so well? Im finding this very hard!
it's a piece of cak... umm, simple as pi... so how's the food diary coming along, BigBoy? Are you including your exercise minutes, too?
How are ye all doing so well? Im finding this very hard!
Who said we all do well... I'm disabled, so what little exercise I do get/can do is very painful and I am in the house with the fridge all day.
Also, being pre-diabetic with a barely functioning liver keeps me from losing weight very easily.
I feel a lot of guilt for the weight I still have on... so I want to eat.
Sometimes I give in... as time goes on I get better at learning new impulses, at recognizing the bad ones and developing new tactics at derailing them.
We are all just trying to give you positive tools, not talk about all the negatives of the struggle, that is not a very productive use of your time (speaking for others here, sorry... I could be wrong).
In hindsight, now that you make this statement, I see how it made it all sound easy. It is not, but it is simple, not the same thing, stick to the rules, keep in mind the good that you are doing.
Something I did when quitting smoking may work, get a craving... do curls with a good, high, weight or crunches. Later, your sub-conscious will stop because it will stop "oh, I don't think I want it
that bad!".
Am beginning to see my down fall pattern: I wait tooooo long to eat, feel dizzy and sick and like I must eat RIGHT NOW then stuff myself with inappropriate junk like white bread, pasta, dairy. Must not have these hypoglycemic moments. Must plan.
Also, I'm pretty sure I'm a carb addict.
I am in the same boat. Your body is also in "survival mode" and is going to store fat no matter how little you eat and how good it is for you.
Carbs are not "bad" in general, but being pre-diabetic... if I don't watch it I'm going to end up going on the shots and have no one to blame but myself.
Pain gets rid of my appetite until it is too late, then I'm starving.
I miss being able to exercise all I want.:(
The mentality of the "clean plate" is hard to break.
I've noticed since moving to Philly, when I go to a restaurant and only eat half or 2/3 of my meal, too many times the server will look concerned or offended and ask, "Was the food OK?" or even, "Whatsa matter, didn't you like the food?" What the hell! My standard response has become, "That was A LOT of food," because usually, it IS too much. One restaurant entree is often big enough for at least two normal meals.
I've lost weight!
But, I've got miles to go before I something something.
I've lost weight!
But, I've got miles to go before I something something.
Well done, Bri :thumb: :thumb2: :thumbsup: :celebrat:
(never mind the miles to go, you're headed in the right direction!)
Thanks, limey. That is very sweet of you! :)
yay, bri!
i moved down a belt notch today. 2 holes to go......
and i don;t feel as fat, although i have not weighed myself.
I am totally agreed with you.
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I have been getting very excited to get back into fitness and health once my baby is born. Having an extra 10 kilos of fluid and baby to weigh you down and stop you from running, and swimming and also making you stuff your face with copious amounts of white choc and bluberry scones does nothing for your fabulous figure.
So i think we should all try to do this together.. again.
I am working on a plan, I will start a new thread in a few weeks with all ideas and plans. Everyones going to be a rambo or a sarah conner by christmas and the cellar will be your coach. Give me a few more weeks and I'll get my shit together and collate everything for our very own cellar boot camp.
So everyone get phyced to join me - and tell your body it only has a few weekends left of being less than action hero.
I'll be back.
Since I got a dog, a HUSKY, I have lost weight. I dunno how many pounds I have lost, but it must be quite a few because I can fit into my jeans again, and I have not been able to get them on for ages. I also cut out alcohol, not intentionally, just haven't felt like drinking. But I quit drinking a while ago, and I've only just lost the weight, so it HAS to be all the walking I'm doing. I must walk two hours/day now, total. Plus I got this thing called a K9 bike jogger that attaches to the seat of the bike, so she can run along next to me while I bike. So far I'm not going far, just around the block, I do it before I walk her to help drain the energy so she isn't so excited and won't pull on the leash so much.
I'm also eating a ton of fruits, mostly various berries, grapefruit, kiwis and apples. I eat a little bit of bread. I eat a LOT of yogurt and kefir. Milk. Chocolate soy milk. Dark chocolate if I'm craving it. That's about it. Oh, and I'm drinking a LOT more water than I used to.
If you want to lose weight, just get a husky! :D
Soooooo.....anyone doing weight loss with their exercise regimen? I can't seem to lose weight just by exercising alone. Am thinking of doing Atkins for 2 weeks to jump start the weight lose then monitor my eating habits to keep the weight off. I have no discipline when it comes to eating. I'm such a pig. :headshake
Anyone to support me? :D
Add me to the list. I just started Nutrisystem.
Started yesterday; I was good, scale says 2 pounds down, but that's also with the diuretic I wasn't taking while camping with the Girl Scouts earlier this week (you know it sucks to have to pee all the time, when you're using a stinky latrine). Today I was good too, until I had dinner at the Boy Scout camp - it was "family night" and he comes home tomorrow. So I said, to hell with it, and am enjoying a few beers.
Well, tomorrow is another day. My goal is 40 lbs.
Have been collecting so much cool info - researching sugars and saturated fats and all different routines.
watch this space!
In April, I was diagnosed with insulin resistant diabetes, type II. Since we believed I was allergic to Metformin, she referred me to an Endocrinologist. Meantime, my A1C was 7.4. My GP prescribed a meter, lancets, and test strips. The meter was not covered under insurance, so I got the $20 model. At first, I changed nothing, and just tested as a baseline. My average blood sugar was 180-200, FASTING, 250-270 2 hours after eating. Out of control.
I decided I was going to go low carb. Not all structured, like Adkins, but just make an eating lifestyle change. I started reading labels and I limited myself to 200 g of total carbs a day.
The first week was the hardest. I did ALOT of "cheating", because I just didn't have the money to throw out all the bad food, and buy all good food. As I went shopping the next week, I didn't pick up an item with out looking at the carbs AND serving size (that's where they get you!!) It quickly became apparent that "light", and "sugar free" don't mean dick when you're talking about carbs. I ended up getting alot of meat, cheese, and fruit/vegetables.
The next week, I started noticing the phrase "net carbs", and looked up what that meant. Basically, there are good carbs (fibre, that take a long time to metabolize and therefore don't "spike" blood sugar) and bad carbs (HFCS, regular CS, refined sugar, maple or other cane sugars, molasses) which cause that spike. That narrowed my choices down alot.
I realized week three that I am allowed 200g of TOTAL carbs a day, so I started picking and choosing how I wanted to eat those carbs. If I did really well throughout the day, then I could have, say, Ice Cream for dessert, as long as I didn't go over my daily number.
Well, my Endocrinology appt came, and I got on the scale. I didn't FEEL any different, I was just trying to get my blood sugar down to a reasonable level.
I had lost 11 pounds. In 2 months. And my A1C was down to 6.2.
I wasn't exercising, nothing different EXCEPT 200g a day. I was elated, and my brand new Doctor was elated, too. We decided to try the Metformin, to see if I could tolerate it. It's been three weeks. The only side effect I'm seeing is that as I've ramped up to the 2g a day of metformin, (being delicate) my BM is not solid. That *may* be because I haven't been hardly eating lately, so I'm not ready to attribute it fully to the Metformin yet.
And I'm losing 2 pounds a week.
And my blood sugars are stable at 100 fasting and 130-150 after meals.
I'm also taking 2 Cinnamon capsules and 1 capsule of Alpha-Lipoic- Acid (ALA) with my Metformin. And my endo sent me to a dietician, who said I should be eating 165 g of total carbs per day: 45g per meal and 15g per snack. (an apple is 15g).
So, not only am I losing the weight slowly and healthily, my blood sugar is at a point where it's considered "very well controlled".
The Doc says if I continue and get my body weight down to "normal" (meet my goal of 175) then we'll taper off the Metformin (and stay on the 165g diet) and see what my sugars do. If they start going back up past a reasonable level, then I'm stuck with Metformin for the rest of my life. But I get to keep my feet!
I'll post weekly (on Mondays) what my weight is, while we are having weigh ins at work for a competition. (I'm 300.4 today, I was 302.6 last week!)
I'm eating meats, cheeses, and my carbs mostly come from fruits (I'm a sucker for watermelon!) and vegetables.
I've also started using soy flour instead of wheat flour, and Splenda instead of sugar (I'm addicted to sweet tea). I keep splenda tablets in my purse and order unsweet tea in restaurants, then add the splenda to taste.
There is a show on Discovery Health channel called "Blaine's Low Carb Kitchen". I DVR it. He's lost over 60 pounds now, eating low carb and exercising. He was a chef for over 20 years, and he makes really good food at really low carb rates. His recipes are on discoveryhealth.com if you don't get the channel. Highly recommended!!
Juniper: How are you doing with your diet? Are you with Nutri System still? Give us an update so we can give you some moral support. :D
Onyx: That's wonderful that both your health and weight is getting better. :thumb: Keep up the good work! I know it's super hard to read the labels and pick and choose your food. But that really does help! I'm just too plain lazy, which is not good because my cholesterol is getting a bit high. :headshake
As for me, this is my third week of Atkins and I've lost about 3.5 - 4 lbs. I'm not too sure. :p I would've lost more except I cheated too much. :blush: I just discovered the Atkin's protein bars, which helped my chocolate cravings immensely. My goal was to lose 5 lbs. I know that doesn't sound much, but it is tremendously hard for me! My ultimate goal is to lose at 3 inches off my waist. So far, I've lost 1 1/4 inch. I haven't been doing enough toning exercises so I haven't been able to lose enough fat. :rolleyes: And yes, my Atkins isn't a true Atkins. I eat lots of salad with my meats because I can't stand eating too much meat. :p I may lose my weight slower but at least I am losing weight. :D
That's wonderful news, Tulip!
And it's ok to cheat, as long as you're still losing. You recognize that you ARE getting there, and that's a HUGE motivator.
*hug* keep us updated!!
(You're losing twice as fast as I am!!)
The metformin is not agreeing with my digestive system. We'll leave it at that.
Meanwhile, I've lost another 2 pounds...down to 298.4!
I went off the Metformin, and I've gained two paound back, up to 300.4 again. So I'm going back on the Metformin. Instead of 4 at a time, I'm going to try 2 twice a day.
If you want to lose weight, just get a husky! :D
I may be on the Australian Shepherd exercise plan by the middle of next month... Hope that works for me too!
This is a very personal post... and I chose to share it with you because I think perhaps... maybe... there is a chance that doing so will help me work through this and reclaim my body and my inner peace at the same time. That doesn't mean I want to be shredded... or analyzed... just allowed to speak... and supported in my efforts regardless of my success or failures.
Ok... now that I'm not nursing anymore and am out of excuses... I am determined to lose the 60lbs I need to lose before I can have the breast reduction I sorely need. Perhaps you guys can help motivate and encourage me? Please no negative feedback on this... I'm not looking for critisism... just cheerleaders for this endeavor.... if that is too much to ask please tell me now and I'll avoid the topic. I generally welcome it, but this is too delicate an area for me.
Yesterday Flint and I started a Flush consisting of the following:
Round 1: 8 oz unfiltered organic apple juice, 8 oz water, 3 tbls psyllium husks... drink very fast (revolting)
round 2: 16 oz water, 2 tbs organic apple cider vinegar, 1 tsp fennel powder, 1 tsp ginger powder, 1 tsp chickweed/ cinnamon/ licorice powder ... sip (nasty nasty)
repeat 3 times a day.
Drink sage tea (which is awesome by the way)
Snack on raw veggies, friut, dates, dried dandilion root, parsley, juniper berries (12 total), avacados, manna bread (it is a 100% sprouted grain and seed bread... that is cooked at so low a temperature it still qualifies as a raw food), sunflower/ sessame/ pumpkin seeds and amarath, raisins.
Dinner: Large salad (with parsley, romaine, red cabbage, red onion, apple, strawberries, broccoli, celery, beets, carrots, garlic powder, afalfa sprouts, seads and walnuts, avacado, lemon juice and first cold pressed olive oil) and brown rice cooked in organic veggie broth and roasted rood veggies.
Dessert: a few unsweetened carob covered almonds.... like 2
I'm down 5 lbs from Saturday. I know most of it is water... but that is part of the point... I know I'm retaining major water.... largely due to my diet and salt consumption... none of which occurs on this Flush. But I have to say... so far everything is tasty and delish... except the second round which I choke down anyway... it isn't about the flavor it’s about the results.
Tomorrow we will do the 2 phases and eat watermelon all day... then resume the above on Wednesday. After 7 days or so... we will begin to incorporate lentils and fish and later on chicken... all organic.
My goal is to stick with this for a month before incorporating other foods... to help me retrain my brain and my food obsessions/ addictions... This should give me enough time to develop a more healthy connection to food.
I am also requiring equal Wii fit and TV watching time of myself. And in the evenings instead of going for a night car ride we are going to go walking.
As to my food issues:. They are deep seated and multifaceted. My parents were large people who loved eating... over eating... they loved buffets and were the sort to force us to eat all we had on our plates. When the oil market crashed and we lost everything... we had to get food from a mission ... or we had nothing. So with that you ate when you could. Then, when I was in my teens... I became anorexic. I was helping to support my mom and brother and well... didn't want to be fat. I married my first husband at 18 and after 2 1/2 years ballooned up from 90 something to 110lbs (yes I know... that is tiny... stay with me on this) and my husband started withholding sex and telling me how fat and disgusting I was (yes at 110)... and after time I began to believe him... I became a binge eater and that 110 lbs became 190lbs... That is more than double the size I was when I married him. I guess I should also point out that I'm barely 5 foot 1" and have a very tiny frame... so at 110lbs believe it or not I was not as skinny as the number would seem... but still looking back I was clearly not overweight. After 10 years with my ex-husband I finally realized that his treatment of me and my tolerance of it was destroying my self-esteem and contributing greatly to my depression. This is largely why I would gain and not lose weight despite all efforts. I actually gained 13 lbs in 3 months on weight watchers. When I decided to leave him I did begin to lose weight, but then I met Flint... married him... moved a bunch of times and got pregnant... and well that brings us up to today. So despite my ex being gone, my parents no longer being in my home and having a fairly financially stable life I recognize that I still have a bad relationship with food. I still celebrate with it, reward and comfort with it. I still crave it like a crack head. I still eat it without thought. I still obsess over the next meal… the menu for the week… etc.
So I'm hoping I can stick with this and give myself a chance to reprogram my connection and establish a better view... food for fuel... food for health and a vibrant life. That is step 1... Then do the same for my workout regime... but one at a time... this has to happen for my exercise outlook to be maintainable.
I know you might have the urge to tell me to not be so restrictive with my intake, but let me stop you before you start down that road. I'm an all or none sorta person and from experience I know that if I give myself an inch it’s all over... its sorta like telling a crack head to just smell the rock, but not smoke it... we all know how long that would last... that’s also true of me. Once I give myself time to rewire I'll be better prepared to make better decisions... right now I can't.
So anyway... I need encouragement to stay the course.
You go Pooka!
FWIW - Here is what I did and I lost 30lbs in 3 months.
I eliminated most of my daily favorites - blue cheese (in all forms), cream in coffee, soda, cheese, ice cream, pasta and most bread(except for special occasions)
Additionally I started working out - 3-5 times a week for at least 1 hour each.
Till life threw me a curveball I was fine. Since then I have NOT put on any weight, but my tone now sux.
Sounds like a very well though out plan Pooka, I'm sure you'll do great with it. I'm not a big into variety in my diet, I eat the same thing for a while and then I get sick of it and move onto something else, so it doesn't seem too restrictive to me at all.
Good luck!
Maybe take progress pictures?
Oh, and I cut out all "fast food" & started eating salads 3x a week for lunch instead. Mine was certainly not the most well thought out plan, but it worked.
Again - good luck!
Good luck Pooka! You should know best what'll work for you - hugs and good luck atcha!
I recognize that I still have a bad relationship with food. I still celebrate with it, reward and comfort with it. I still crave it like a crack head. I still eat it without thought. I still obsess over the next meal… the menu for the week… etc.
Oh, my god, you sound
exactly like me, and I think I am going to be on the exact same journey very soon -- when I get my next A1C back. :thepain:
I wish you major mojo luck in this, lady. Use Flint for support, use us -- use whatever resources you have to. :fingerx:
Go for it, Pooka! also try biking in the evenings occassionally. i know it's hot there, but when i start walking programs, I soon find I get bored with the same old route -biking will take you further. If you don't already have one, look around for a trailer and/or a tag-a-long for the kids.
also, youmentioned workout time = TV time. you can combine the two ;)
Good Luck!
We just discussed that yesterday... don't have bikes yet... I have to teach Flint how to ride first... I think having the trailer would simplify it for him.
Yes... I can run in place with the Wii while watching a show... not my favorite method though... if I'm watching something... I'm just needing total down time...
More power to you! Restrictive diets of any kind get a lot easier over time. Stick with it, and soon you will be wondering how you ever thought it was hard.
you can get some decent growed-up trikes these days.
My ceramics teacher is a bike nut. He reckons best way to learn is to take the pedals off and just scoot it down a slight hill until you can easily pick both feet up and not fall off. Should take maybe 30 minutes. You can get really nice bikes free on the curb round here -and trailers occassionally. Keep your eye out!
The nice thing about this diet... if you want to call it that... is that you find yourself making better decisions all around... like cutting out white flour and sugar in the kids diets to start, started my compost pile today, ridding out the house of unneeded clutter...
I will have Flint take before pics today when he gets home... that is a good idea. As much as I dread seeing pictures of myself head to toe. The biggest issue I have with them is well... my own vanity I suppose... I just don't recognize the image as myself... that just isn't me...
I'm going to put a wanted post on Freecycle for some bikes and a trailer... I’ll check Craig’s list too.
Smelling the kid’s food is a temptation, but as long as I don't stick it in my mouth I seem to be ok with it. I ate a bite of Kashi's new Honey Sunshine cereal and immediately was overcome by a sneezing fit.
Really the hardest part is the 2ndround… it is just plain vile, but I know it is an important part… I’m probably going to have to chill the water first. We normally store our reverse osmosis water in a ceramic dispenser… so it is room temp… but imagine drinking watered down pickle juice with a heaping tsp of dried ginger and you have a feel for the nastiness of it… that’s about as good a description as possible without making you taste it.
Sounds like a very well though out plan Pooka, I'm sure you'll do great with it. I'm not a big into variety in my diet, I eat the same thing for a while and then I get sick of it and move onto something else, so it doesn't seem too restrictive to me at all.
*grins* that's exactly how I eat :P
@ Pooka: your ex sounds like he needs several hearty slaps; preferably with a large piece of wood.
I think your plan sounds really good. Yeah, it's restrictive, but you said yourself that's just whilst you reprogramme your relationship with food. Quite aside from the weight loss, the move away from processed to fresh and raw foods is going to make you a damn sight healthier.
I wish you all the best and I have every faith you'll get where you want to be. You've always struck me as a strong person.
My only warning to you is that you may find the sudden increase of fibre in your diet a little overloading. It's something I was warned about when I tried a similar change in diet a few years ago. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go for it. Just saying keep an eye on possible symptoms and you can respond accordingly. Not all fresh foods are high in fibre, so if you find it's affecting you adversely, worth having some low fibre alternatives to jump to. Also worth considering something like Complan (meal replacement drinks) once a day or once every other day to ensure balanced nutrition intake (once you've finished the detox part of the plan)
Chances are though, given the timescales that you won't need that. I can however heartily recommend them as very filling: and they help change food relationships because you drink them: really is just like food for fuel, rather than food for taste/joy of eating.
Anyway: good luck with it honey. Let us know how it goes!
[eta] that manna bread sounds delicious!
Really the hardest part is the 2ndround… it is just plain vile, but I know it is an important part… I’m probably going to have to chill the water first. We normally store our reverse osmosis water in a ceramic dispenser… so it is room temp… but imagine drinking watered down pickle juice with a heaping tsp of dried ginger and you have a feel for the nastiness of it… that’s about as good a description as possible without making you taste it.
I still don't understand what it's for exactly, but rather than putting the jar in the refrigerator and going to bed, etc. which results in you not drinking it at all, may I suggest my realistic approach: cut the water to 8 oz. and the powders to 1/4 tsp--and then just chug it. At least I'm getting some of it, and getting it over with. Very important is that any program be based on something you are
actually going to do.Better yet, cut the water to 1 oz., throw it back like the nastiest shot you've had since the cheap booze college days, and then chase it with the rest of the water. The water's important, but there's no reason it all has to taste like ass. It's all going to get mixed up and properly diluted in your stomach anyway.
I still don't understand what it's for exactly, but rather than putting the jar in the refrigerator and going to bed, etc. which results in you not drinking it at all
Touche...
I did that once... but cutting the water back is a good idea... I'll try the same amount of herbs though...
If I only used an ounce we'd be looking at a sludge... a totally unguzzable sludge....
The herbs are to help with water retention, fat disolving, blood pressure and cholesterol lowering, artery cleaning, calcium deposit desolving, eyesight and respiratory system improvement... and... it thins the blood so that should help our electric bill too.
Says who they do those things.
I can pull out a number or Holistic health books on Herbs for you honey if you so require.
I have a solution for the step 2 that seems to be acceptable... cut water to 8 oz as Flint suggested, but do not include the ginger... rather make tea out of it with the 8oz missing from step 2.
Also... pleased to report... I'm down another 3 lbs. So thats 7 total. From 189lbs to 181 lbs. Still a LONG way to go before I'm in the approval zone for the breast reduction. If only I could grow taller... I'd look pretty damn good if I was Flint's height and not the munchkin that I am.
We forgot to take pictures yesterday... but I'll ask my mom to take them... she will be here for lunch with the kids today.
Wait... 8lbs lost... my math apparently is diminishing too.
Had a hard time resisting the kid's breakfast today... but in the end I didn't tast a bit of it... yay me.
Mom didn't come over today and don't trust kids with a camera so will need to hand Flint the camera as he walks in the door so I don't get side tracked and forget.
8lbs already? Way to go !
How did all the watermelon eating go? Were you up all night peeing?
I pee-peed so much on watermelon day.
No... we put our pee pee in the potty... just ask Morgi...
Here are the before pictures...
nice tile - bet that feels really cool when its hot out.
Down that pipe???
I'll pee down
your pipe!
Congratulations on your weight loss and just simply, doing something about your weight problem!! :thumb2: I totally understand about restricting food intake. Why do you think I went on Atkins? :p
I agree with Dana about your ex. He sounds like a total a$$hole. 110lbs is not heavy at all for a 5'1" person. Heck, I wouldn't even call you chunky then. You just weren't super thin like a model, that's all. :rolleyes: Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I'm extremely petite myself. ;)
I don't mean this to be offensive in any way, but when you say you're 5'1" and 181 lbs., I thought you'd be rather round. However, you don't look bad at all! You don't look as big as I thought you'd be. You know what they say about pictures adding 10lbs on a person? Well, take 10lbs off, and I think you look good.:)
Well, good luck on your diet. I think it's wonderful that Flint's doing it with you. Don't ever give up, think of the weight that has come off, will come off, and how wonderful you'll look and feel. :D
I think part of what helps me not look as heavy as I am is the size of my boobs... I where a 36 I... yes I... that is not a typo.
That and I have bones like a bird...
I'm thinking I'm going to order a pair of MBTs... I was considering the Sketchers Shape ups, but after researching I think I want to go ahead and get the MBTs. I'm trying to find a good deal.. but my 1 yr old keeps grabbing my arms away from the keyboard.... and the best deals look suspiciously like fake sites...
... I where a 36 I... yes I... that is not a typo.
I had to read that a couple, well, okay, 3-4 times before realizing the "I" is a size and not a pronoun. Wow! Didn't realize cup sizes go up that high. :p
Never heard of MBT. How are they better than the rest of those exercise shoes, such as FlipFlop, Skechers Shape Ups, etc? And why the heck are they so expensive?!!? I'm asking for my sister cuz she wants to get one, and she's size 5, which is hard to shop for in these kinds of shoes.
ohhh they do... me and Dolly... we should shop at the same store. Thanks for the kind words by the way... Flint is always telling me I'm hot and look like a goddess... of course the goddess that comes to my mind is the Venus of Villendorff
MBT stands for Masai Barefoot Technology... here is the link
http://us.mbt.com/
The MBT brand was the origional I believe and from the reviews while similar to the Sketchers version they are squisher on the bottom and require more participation on your part to maintain balance. It is possible to find them on sale for the same price or just a bit more than the Sketchers. Fit Flops I haven't looked into yet. From what I can tell most folks seem pretty happy with all of them... so its more a matter of what feels right on your foot... and your wallet. I'm going to go try some of each on hopefully tomorrow and can make a better decision then. I'll try the fit flops out too... I pretty much live in flip flops so thats a pretty good idea.
I had a pretty long conversation with my trainer about those shoes today and found out that he's not a fan. He was adamant that you should never run in them, and seemed to indicate that they were kind of silly in general. In his opinion, running barefoot is the best thing you can do do because it forces you to have correct form, unlike modern running shoes which encourage bad form with over cushioning.
I tried them on at The Walking co and thought they were ridiculous feeling and looking and knew I'd never wear them. The shoes themselves fit weird, like they were too big and on the wrong feet... so I mentioned that I might try out the Fit Flops. The sales lady went off on how the Fit Flops are crap, that they don't keep you off balance like the MBTs and are really just a comfortable, extra cushy flip flop. She really wanted me to buy over priced inserts though so her credibility was not so much...
My 2 cents; don't go out and buy a bunch of crap to get in shape with. Keep it simple and honest and you'll see results. If you're going to spend money on anything, make it a few sessions with a trainer to learn correct form and how to maximize your efforts.
My 2 cents; don't go out and buy a bunch of crap to get in shape with. Keep it simple and honest and you'll see results. If you're going to spend money on anything, make it a few sessions with a trainer to learn correct form and how to maximize your efforts.
Couldn't agree more. also, choose the sport/exercise first, try it out and then ascertain what stuff you really need to pursue it -if indeed you want to. I walk. Turns out I hate walking in sneakers so good job I didn't lay out a whole load of dosh on them. I walk in cheapo sports sandals. But then I started tennis and sandals don't work so much and my regular sneakers didn't have enough bounce. So i went and found some that did. But had I shopped before I started in both cases I would have bought the wrong thing.
I decided you're right... and I'm holding off...
We are done with the Flush and tomorrow will begin the Detox phase... now we get to incorporate lentils... Flint is thrilled... I've found that I have very little interest in food at the moment and not thinking of seconds is not an issue ... not currently anyway.
Update: we are done with detox and now ... eating healty... still just whole grains... I haven't lost any more... but I attribute that to the fact that we are actually eating now. I feel pretty good about my food choices and have not had any cravings. I'm no longer planing meals in advance... this seems to help. If I just wait until the last minute and dissmiss other thoughts of food throughout the day I don't give myself opportunity to obsess.
How's it going weight-losing folks?
If anyone wants me to forward them the somewhat interesting stuff I occasionally get from my trainer, PM me your email. He just sent me articles on glute strength (with assesment and strenghtening exercises) and basic nutrition...
Ok... we had a new stove installed... we were switching to gas and hit a major snag... the gas line had to be relaid. and we found this out Friday... so were without a stove until the evening of the following Monday... the next week was leeding up to our daughter's b-day... and then Flint got sick... so,... there are all my excuses. This weekend I'm starting over AGAIN. But all in all I'd have to say I really didn't do too bad even with all the set backs. Still... I'm afraid of that scale.