Brian Doyle Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary Arrested

Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 11:01 am
http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=4727267


Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary arrested









MIAMI The deputy press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security has been arrested. Authorities say he used the Internet to try to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl.

Brian Doyle was arrested on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Florida.

The Polk County Sheriff's Office says Doyle had a sexually explicit conversation with what he believed was a 14-year-old girl whose profile he saw on the Internet.

The "girl" was actually an undercover Polk County Sheriff's Computer Crimes detective.

The Homeland Security press secretary said he could not comment on the details of the investigation. Russ Knocke promised full cooperation.

Doyle is expected to be placed on administrative leave Wednesday morning.
Kitsune • Apr 5, 2006 11:27 am
Cheyenne wrote:
Authorities say he used the Internet to try to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl.


Nonsense. He was simply investigating a possible terrorist and was merely testing them with materials a true Muslim extremist would find highly offensive.
Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 11:31 am
Kitsune wrote:
Nonsense. He was simply investigating a possible terrorist and was merely testing them with materials a true Muslim extremist would find highly offensive.


Oh, doh! why did i not think of that?! I am just a silly citizen who can not think for myself. ;)
wolf • Apr 5, 2006 11:34 am
Somewhere in the back of my head I am forming the impression that there are no actual 12 and 13 year old girls on the internet, just 40something sex crimes detectives.
Elspode • Apr 5, 2006 11:43 am
Just so we don't misunderstand each other here, I want to say right up front that men who prey on children should have their gonads placed up against an open car door frame, and then have the door kicked shut by the child's parents.

That being said...why isn't posing as a 13 year old girl in order to nab potential child molesters considered to be entrapment? I guess it isn't, as these cases stand up in court time after time, but it seems a little dicey to me from a Constitutional standpoint.

Could one of our Constitutional scholars please enlighten me? Radar? TW?

Oh, and BTW...I think that it is hysterical that one of the current administration's minions got nailed for something like this. I just wish he were higher up and more important.
marichiko • Apr 5, 2006 11:47 am
Doyle should be arrested for terminal stupidity. What? He didn't think someone might not trace his ISP? He didn't even bother to use one of those "cloaking" programs? Well, I guess we don't have to worry about Homeland Security monitoring anything that goes on on the Internet. Jeez!

Wolf, there actually is a 14 year old girl who uses the Internet (well, she WAS 14). She showed me how to do chat and post on discussion groups. Her user name was "Slychickas" if you ever encounter her and want revenge. :lol:
SteveBsjb • Apr 5, 2006 11:55 am
I love this story. This guy should fry.

When undercover agents act as underage girls online, they do nothing wrong. They never initiate or tantalize. There's nothing unconstitutional about it in my eyes.

Unfortunately, in a sense, it would seem to only catch the STUPIDEST pedophiles. But it's great when it's this high profile too... gives them all something to think about.
Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 11:56 am
Elspode wrote:


That being said...why isn't posing as a 13 year old girl in order to nab potential child molesters considered to be entrapment? I guess it isn't, as these cases stand up in court time after time, but it seems a little dicey to me from a Constitutional standpoint.



The poser juveniles do not contact the perp 1st. They wait for contact by the perp and allow the perp to start the sexual come ons. So no, it is not entrapment.


This moron actually (according to the news ~ for what THAT is worth)

He told "her" his real name and that he is "Deputy Press Secretary Homeland Security" and sent his official photo. Because the Officers did not know what exactly he had access to, they arrested him WHILE he was still online with the detective.

Wow, I feel safe and secure with brainiacs like him running our Country. Don't you??
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 5, 2006 11:57 am
How come you're allowed to hook up with 14 year old girls and I'm not. :(
Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 12:00 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
How come you're allowed to hook up with 14 year old girls and I'm not. :(


who is "you're"? point the direction and i will kill it!
marichiko • Apr 5, 2006 12:01 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
How come you're allowed to hook up with 14 year old girls and I'm not. :(


You talking to me? She was the daughter of the BF I had at the time. Maybe you could find a boyfriend with a 14 year old daughter, too. :lol:
glatt • Apr 5, 2006 12:06 pm
Elspode wrote:
Just so we don't misunderstand each other here, I want to say right up front that men who prey on children should have their gonads placed up against an open car door frame, and then have the door kicked shut by the child's parents.

That being said...why isn't posing as a 13 year old girl in order to nab potential child molesters considered to be entrapment? I guess it isn't, as these cases stand up in court time after time, but it seems a little dicey to me from a Constitutional standpoint.



Along similar lines, how can a man who was sitting in a jail cell on 9/11/2001 be charged for murder for the terrorist activities that took place that day simply because he knew a little about them and misled police? Wouldn't that be obstruction of justice, not murder? Insert caveat about slamming his balls in a car door because he is a sworn enemy of the US.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 5, 2006 12:06 pm
Throw in a 14 year old daughter and I might accept a boyfriend.:lol:
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 5, 2006 12:09 pm
[HTML]Wouldn't that be obstruction of justice, not murder?[/HTML]Allowing deaths he could have prevented is close enough. Besides, US government = they can do that. ;)
Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 12:19 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Throw in a 14 year old daughter and I might accept a boyfriend.:lol:



*kills you after cutting your balls off with a dull stick* :p


say, with a name like "bruce" should you not already have a boyfriend?

:biglaugha
marichiko • Apr 5, 2006 1:00 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
[HTML]Wouldn't that be obstruction of justice, not murder?[/HTML]Allowing deaths he could have prevented is close enough. Besides, US government = they can do that. ;)


I believe its called being an accessory to murder if you know in advance that someone is planning to kill someone, and do nothing to prevent it or alert the authorities. This is what the ax murderer did. He knew his bro was going to kill that 19 year old child (she was SUCH a pretty little thing :( ) and sat on his hands and did nothing. That is an actual crime and has nothing to do with constitutional rights.
wolf • Apr 5, 2006 1:55 pm
Cheyenne wrote:
say, with a name like "bruce" should you not already have a boyfriend?


You clearly do not understand the power of he who is xoxoxoBruce.
Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 2:18 pm
wolf wrote:
You clearly do not understand the power of he who is xoxoxoBruce.


you clearly do not understand the idea of humor :p
Elspode • Apr 5, 2006 2:56 pm
Let's see...I'm pretty sure I left that helmet and body armor around here somehwere...
Cheyenne • Apr 5, 2006 3:21 pm
It is okay El, I am only flinging pillows. :)
Elspode • Apr 6, 2006 3:32 pm
I wasn't worried about *you*, Chey... :worried:
Cheyenne • Apr 6, 2006 5:33 pm
oh good....wanna pillow fight then? ;)
Elspode • Apr 6, 2006 5:49 pm
Cowabunga!
Cheyenne • Apr 6, 2006 11:20 pm
oh i like that, now i see why guys like to see girls pillow fight. :)

saved it to my pictures i did.


What do you think might be the artwork on the wall? Cheap hotel piece or upper class?

Yes I am strange, I pick out details most people could care less about.

think i just may have a gander at the one I saved and see what it is.
Cheyenne • Apr 7, 2006 12:21 am
Cheyenne wrote:
you clearly do not understand the idea of humor :p


For Humor, Look inside here ;)
Cheyenne • Apr 7, 2006 12:23 am
I prefer the Bird & MacDonald version best.
Elspode • Apr 7, 2006 12:52 am
Cheyenne wrote:
What do you think might be the artwork on the wall? Cheap hotel piece or upper class?

Even upper class hotels have starving artist paintings and cheap repros stuck in cheaper frames. I'd imagine the Beatles didn't stay at the Holiday Inn, even for obviously staged publicity photo shoots. Still, it is a great pic of the Fab Four.
Cheyenne • Apr 7, 2006 1:18 pm
It looks like a woman with a shall over her head and a dog sitting beside.

Even some expensive hotels are not upper class, just expensive. ;)

looking at the ceiling it is rather expensive architechture for the 60's and a caned bed is upscale. :)
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 9, 2006 2:13 am
Cheyenne wrote:
For Humor, Look inside here ;)
Or here. :rolleyes:
Cheyenne • Apr 9, 2006 11:41 am
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Or here. :rolleyes:



I knew you had a sense of humor about it. it was the others who thought you may bonk me on the head or something. ;)
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 9, 2006 11:54 am
Hmmm....bonking........Mmmm. :redface:
Cheyenne • Apr 9, 2006 12:39 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Hmmm....bonking........Mmmm. :redface:



"bonking" :smashfrea
not

"boinking" :doit:

:redface:
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 10, 2006 9:44 pm
Oh......
nevermind. :redface:
Clodfobble • Apr 10, 2006 10:44 pm
It could always be both. :whip: