What car should I buy? - Page 4

lumberjim · 12-10-2013, 09:24 PM

Tw, How do wheels fight one another? What do you mean by that? And, how does it results in the rollover?

lumberjim · 12-10-2013, 10:51 PM

Lola, have you looked at the new Sentra? It's really come a long way. Looks very similar to the Altima. Much bigger than it used to be.
http://m.nissanusa.com/?original_pat...VehicleLanding

lumberjim · 12-10-2013, 10:53 PM

It has speed sensitive variable power assist steering. And ABS!

monster · 12-10-2013, 10:56 PM

I think you should get a three wheel drive car, lola. You only need three points of contact to level an object (three points to describe a plane). Four is too many, and invariably one doesn't actually make contact, but will if pressure is applied at the right point causing the object to wobble -like a table or a chair. if we redesigned furniture with three legs, we'd nevery need to wedge wonky legs again. they don't make three wheel cars any more -and they look stupid, but if you have three wheel drive, it's effectively the same. plus you can bling out the fourth wheel or use it as a lazy Susan. You definitely want Abs, but you can always ad them afterwards using an intense workout program.

lumberjim · 12-11-2013, 12:46 AM

Do you like the GTi?

footfootfoot · 12-11-2013, 11:00 AM

Maybe sixes aren't needed where YOU live Glatt, but around here with micro short passing lanes, curvy roads, and a preponderance of cotton tops and seasonal tourists, not having six cylinders adds 15 minutes to a commute.

glatt · 12-11-2013, 11:14 AM

It's true that more power can come in handy. But it comes with a tradeoff.

YMMV, literally.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-11-2013, 11:21 AM

I don't call trading safety for savings a good deal.

glatt · 12-11-2013, 11:40 AM

I'd be curious to see any studies that show cars with 6 cylinder engines are safer than cars with 4 cylinder engines.

I would expect insurance rates to be higher on cars with 6 cylinder engines based on them being more likely to be involved in accidents because there's more power in a 6 cylinder engine for a driver to abuse.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-11-2013, 11:56 AM

I would like to see a study showing 6 cylinder cars have more accidents than 4 cylinder cars. I think that's complete bullshit, along with the idea that drivers of 6 cylinder cars drive faster, or more recklessly. You said yourself speed is limited by the rest of the traffic.

I will agree however, if your situational awareness, and driving skills suck, having the power to evade and avoid is useless to you. You might as well get a 4 cylinder and spend the time until somebody nails you, daydreaming about how you'll spend that 12 cents you saved on gas this week.

footfootfoot · 12-11-2013, 12:54 PM

I was just as much of an asshole driver when I had 4 cylinders as I am now. Maybe more so. Being stuck behind someone, unable to pass for 45 minutes because they wouldn't pull over and my 4 cylinder car unable to over take them and get back into my lane led to me taking risks so I didn't have to get stuck like that again. I also got one of the two tickets I've gotten in my life for unsafe passing because I couldn't get back into my lane before the stripes changed.

My mileage is usually 26mpg, but I have a sticky caliper and haven't had a chance to fix it so my mpg has dropped to about 20. It's taking about 100 miles of travel from a tank of gas. (about $20 bucks - I need to fix that asap)

I admit to being impatient when I am going to an appointment, I can be perfectly chill otherwise. Still, slow driving, e.g., 40 in a 55 frosts me. Especially when the driver is blissfully unaware of other cars and is marveling at the local splendor.

glatt · 12-11-2013, 01:07 PM

40 in a 55 is completely unreasonable. Unless there's ice on the road or something. Even then, you should pull over and let cars pass.

I can only think of a couple times in my life where I really wished I had that extra power. And one time was in a rental car. I had pulled over at some roadside vendor north of Toronto on Canadian thanksgiving weekend. Traffic was extremely heavy with absolutely no breaks and the ramp to get up to speed was relatively short with no merge lane. After waiting several minutes for any break, I just pulled an asshole move where I got up to speed and barged my way in. Somebody let me in. Come to think of it, accelerating wasn't the problem, it was simply finding a gap to coincide with the end of the ramp. I didn't like that.

orthodoc · 12-11-2013, 04:16 PM

You're right, it wasn't the rental car - it was the insane traffic and bad design of Hwys 400 and 11, north of Toronto. (And Hwy 69, which is a death trap.) Driving there anytime is hair-raising. In winter, just to add spice, Hwy 400 routinely gets white-outs.

lumberjim · 12-11-2013, 06:04 PM

It helps though, if you're able to accelerate fast enough to be going faster than traffic by the time you get to the end of the merge lane.

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lumberjim · 12-11-2013, 06:06 PM

Oh, and. ..
Choke11.4mpgChoke

12-10-2013, 09:24 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Tw, How do wheels fight one another? What do you mean by that? And, how does it results in the rollover? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-10-2013, 10:51 PM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Lola, have you looked at the new Sentra? It's really come a long way. Looks very similar to the Altima. Much bigger than it used to be. http://m.nissanusa.com/?original_pat...VehicleLanding __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-10-2013, 10:53 PM	#3
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	It has speed sensitive variable power assist steering. And ABS! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-10-2013, 10:56 PM	#4
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I think you should get a three wheel drive car, lola. You only need three points of contact to level an object (three points to describe a plane). Four is too many, and invariably one doesn't actually make contact, but will if pressure is applied at the right point causing the object to wobble -like a table or a chair. if we redesigned furniture with three legs, we'd nevery need to wedge wonky legs again. they don't make three wheel cars any more -and they look stupid, but if you have three wheel drive, it's effectively the same. plus you can bling out the fourth wheel or use it as a lazy Susan. You definitely want Abs, but you can always ad them afterwards using an intense workout program. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

12-11-2013, 12:46 AM	#5
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Do you like the GTi? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-11-2013, 11:00 AM	#6
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Maybe sixes aren't needed where YOU live Glatt, but around here with micro short passing lanes, curvy roads, and a preponderance of cotton tops and seasonal tourists, not having six cylinders adds 15 minutes to a commute. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-11-2013, 11:14 AM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	It's true that more power can come in handy. But it comes with a tradeoff. YMMV, literally.

12-11-2013, 11:21 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I don't call trading safety for savings a good deal. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-11-2013, 11:40 AM	#9
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I'd be curious to see any studies that show cars with 6 cylinder engines are safer than cars with 4 cylinder engines. I would expect insurance rates to be higher on cars with 6 cylinder engines based on them being more likely to be involved in accidents because there's more power in a 6 cylinder engine for a driver to abuse.

12-11-2013, 11:56 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I would like to see a study showing 6 cylinder cars have more accidents than 4 cylinder cars. I think that's complete bullshit, along with the idea that drivers of 6 cylinder cars drive faster, or more recklessly. You said yourself speed is limited by the rest of the traffic. I will agree however, if your situational awareness, and driving skills suck, having the power to evade and avoid is useless to you. You might as well get a 4 cylinder and spend the time until somebody nails you, daydreaming about how you'll spend that 12 cents you saved on gas this week. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-11-2013, 12:54 PM	#11
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I was just as much of an asshole driver when I had 4 cylinders as I am now. Maybe more so. Being stuck behind someone, unable to pass for 45 minutes because they wouldn't pull over and my 4 cylinder car unable to over take them and get back into my lane led to me taking risks so I didn't have to get stuck like that again. I also got one of the two tickets I've gotten in my life for unsafe passing because I couldn't get back into my lane before the stripes changed. My mileage is usually 26mpg, but I have a sticky caliper and haven't had a chance to fix it so my mpg has dropped to about 20. It's taking about 100 miles of travel from a tank of gas. (about $20 bucks - I need to fix that asap) I admit to being impatient when I am going to an appointment, I can be perfectly chill otherwise. Still, slow driving, e.g., 40 in a 55 frosts me. Especially when the driver is blissfully unaware of other cars and is marveling at the local splendor. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-11-2013, 01:07 PM	#12
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	40 in a 55 is completely unreasonable. Unless there's ice on the road or something. Even then, you should pull over and let cars pass. I can only think of a couple times in my life where I really wished I had that extra power. And one time was in a rental car. I had pulled over at some roadside vendor north of Toronto on Canadian thanksgiving weekend. Traffic was extremely heavy with absolutely no breaks and the ramp to get up to speed was relatively short with no merge lane. After waiting several minutes for any break, I just pulled an asshole move where I got up to speed and barged my way in. Somebody let me in. Come to think of it, accelerating wasn't the problem, it was simply finding a gap to coincide with the end of the ramp. I didn't like that.

12-11-2013, 04:16 PM	#13
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	You're right, it wasn't the rental car - it was the insane traffic and bad design of Hwys 400 and 11, north of Toronto. (And Hwy 69, which is a death trap.) Driving there anytime is hair-raising. In winter, just to add spice, Hwy 400 routinely gets white-outs. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

12-11-2013, 06:04 PM	#14
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	It helps though, if you're able to accelerate fast enough to be going faster than traffic by the time you get to the end of the merge lane. CoughHemiCough AhemV8Ahem Snort 5.7LTRSnort __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-11-2013, 06:06 PM	#15
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Oh, and. .. Choke11.4mpgChoke __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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