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Old 06-23-2012, 01:11 PM   #31
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Henry, you have no understanding whatsoever of the concept of gender, which has literally absolutely nothing to do with physical sex, except when cultural forces make it so.

Happy monkey nailed it. all you cunts who refuse to take the time and add one little letter to your pronouns are ONLY doing it to be unpleasant little bitches and get a rise out of me. it tends to work. congrats.
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Is a single PoC here willing to agree that white people should get to define racism?
Is a single woman here willing to agree that men should get to define sexism and patriarchy?
Is a single queer here willing to agree that cishet people should get to define homphobia or transphobia?
just one of you, come on. Just one of any category that isn't cis het white male.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:12 PM   #32
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I agree with IBram this is sexual harassment.
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Is a single PoC here willing to agree that white people should get to define racism?
Is a single woman here willing to agree that men should get to define sexism and patriarchy?
Is a single queer here willing to agree that cishet people should get to define homphobia or transphobia?
just one of you, come on. Just one of any category that isn't cis het white male.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:59 PM   #33
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I think I saw that picture on TMZ...
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:07 PM   #34
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all you cunts who refuse to take the time and add one little letter to your pronouns are ONLY doing it to be unpleasant little bitches and get a rise out of me. it tends to work. congrats.
Apparently you have learned it is far easier to preach than practice eh?
One can only assume your not as "tolerant" as you claim.

I am disappoint.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:15 PM   #35
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Henry, you have no understanding whatsoever of the concept of gender, which has literally absolutely nothing to do with physical sex, except when cultural forces make it so.

Happy monkey nailed it. all you cunts who refuse to take the time and add one little letter to your pronouns are ONLY doing it to be unpleasant to little bitches and get a rise out of me. it tends to work. congrats.
settle down, beavis.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:19 PM   #36
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The sheer fact that a homo thread gets more attention than one speaking of sound minds goes to show that the level of sanity and morality on this entire bullitian board is least to say "poor."
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:23 PM   #37
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The sheer fact that a homo thread gets more attention than one speaking of sound minds goes to show that the level of sanity and morality on this entire bullitian board is least to say "poor."
Pipe down, prick.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:26 PM   #38
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I agree with IBram ...
That's very commendable JBKlyde, supporting Ibram just like a big brother would. We know you'll watch over Ibram and teach Ibram well.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:47 PM   #39
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I believe in fighting intolerance and this kind of bullshit, not ignoring it and moving on. if i seem like i'm on a hair trigger it's only because I believe it's the duty of all moral people to fight back against this kind of hate with all they've got, every single time they see it.
Rrright, where it's understood by all that when you say "this kind", you are referring to the kind that you personally experience. Obviously, we aren't in this thread talking about any other kind.

And how we "fight" is:

A) We calmly discuss an issue that intelligent people may disagree on, and discover through common respect what we can learn from each other in a two-way process.

B) We call everybody we disagree with a fucking ignorant cunt.

(B-prime) Assume the moral high ground. That way B is permitted and is not poor behavior.

AND BY THE WAY when you talk about gender you are not speaking for all TG people. And I know this because: well, I've known more of them than you have.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:08 PM   #40
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AND BY THE WAY when you talk about gender you are not speaking for all TG people. And I know this because: well, I've known more of them than you have.
That made me smile :p
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:16 PM   #41
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nope. i don't accept intolerance.
I so get that. I can't stand intolerance either.


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Old 06-23-2012, 06:03 PM   #42
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From now on, I'd like to be known as Big Dick Blaque.

Because it's a 100% accurate description.

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Old 06-23-2012, 07:18 PM   #43
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You are need to rise above the name-calling, always tell yourself that.
Gotta agree with that. OTOH, I believe my Klingon insult to quirky henry was totally called for. I'm wondering what it's well-thought-out, logical explanation is for it's prejudice against Ibram.
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:33 PM   #44
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"why not accept someone else's self-definition?"

Speaking only for me: 'cause reality trumps my (or his) definitions.

If he wants to self-identify as 'girl' -- again -- that's fine...no profit for or cost to me if he self-defines as 'girl'.

But the cost to me is high if 'I' pretend he's a 'she', 'cause he's not.
Why does physical appearance trump psychological belief? We have enough evidence now to know that there is a different brain chemistry between men and women, and also between any kind of person in between.

Surely what's on the inside is equally important as what's on the outside.

As to the rest of this shit fight, I've started a number of threads in the past after being prompted to thought by something another poster believes or thinks about. Personally, I've never considered it to be attacking the other person, but an exploration of an idea that I don't feel very informed about usually.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:15 AM   #45
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But the cost to me is high if 'I' pretend he's a 'she', 'cause he's not.
I musta missed this one B4, but since it 's been brought to my attention (thanks Ali. ), tell me Mr. Hanky, what exactly is the cost to you? Cuz I see no logical way this can affect your state of being.

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As you like...and: who are you again that I should care?
Never said you should.
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