Palestinian bicyclist

Tobiasly · 08-07-2002, 02:03 AM

I've been thinking about this news photo for the past couple days. For some reason it was sticking in my head, and I wasn't sure why.

<I>Palestinians run and crawl for cover following an Israeli helicopter attack in Gaza Strip August 5, 2002. Israeli military helicopters fired three missiles at a foundry in Gaza City which the Israeli armed forces said was a Palestinian weapons factory.</I>

It seems like more often than not, pictures of Palestinians in the U.S. media are either flag burnings, groups of kids giving "victory" symbols, body parts scattered in the aftermath of a suicide bombing, etc.

But here's this guy. It looks like he was out for a bike ride in his shorts and sandals, enjoying the evening, when all the sudden he gets blown off his bike and has to seek cover. Now, I'm not taking either side here, although I definitely have my views on the situation in general. I guess this picture just drives home to me how much life must fucking suck for both groups.

This Reuters photo was put out shortly after Griff told us about his birthday ride. And here's Griff's counterpart in Gaza, just out for a joy ride on a nice Monday night. Only while Griff is worrying about whether that neighbor's dog will nip his tires, this guy is worrying about the fucking missile that just exploded a couple hundred yards away.

I guess I don't really have a point to make, just that it really sucks to be some people or groups of people, and it sucks that we can't make all that sucking go away.

jaguar · 08-07-2002, 02:23 AM

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/issue_j...2002/ross.html

Facinating article about someone who was @ the negoiatations. You woudln't expect me to post that one but i foudn it interesting, and it has had an effect on my opinion of Arafat. I'm a little dubious about the ability to rein in militants though.

08-07-2002, 07:47 AM

The suck quotient is extremely high.

warch · 08-07-2002, 05:35 PM

Its a great shot and does stick with you. Its the moment- is he gonna make it? Is he fast enough? Can he find cover? Does he make the correct last minute decision? It reminds me of one of my reoccurring anxiety nightmares- the one where my knees turn to jelly just when I need to scramble.

That Guy · 08-08-2002, 02:28 PM

He probably made it if the cameraman made it -- and he even stopped to take a shot or two.

tw · 08-12-2002, 08:45 PM

It night. Israeli choppers are attacking. You are just trying to keep low and get away hidden in the dark. Then some idiot snaps a flash picture of you - so that every chopper pilot can see you. Was this guy pissed?

Griff · 08-13-2002, 06:18 AM

Great find Tob. Its connections like this that make an unreal situation real.

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-02-2002, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by jaguar
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/issue_j...2002/ross.html

... I'm a little dubious about the ability to rein in militants though.

A little dubious? That's putting it very mildly. Arafat is a driving force behind those militants effing it up for every sane Palestinian. There surely must be three or four.

jaguar · 09-02-2002, 03:39 AM

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A little dubious? That's putting it very mildly. Arafat is a driving force behind those militants effing it up for every sane Palestinian. There surely must be three or four.

Why do I have the nasty feeling I’m going to put up with far too many of your righteous rants? Personally I’d say blind hatred is the driving force, tends to happen after the lot they've been though. Odd about that. While I don't doubt Arafat is at least complicit in the various attacks whether he could if he wanted to stop them is another matter entirely. Being on the bandwagon is far easier than trying to stop it. Groups like hamas are extremely powerful, they have people in high places throughout the PLO, the support base for many of the attacks is still pretty broad, inclusion growing sections of the security forces he would have to use to attempt to stop it. Between those factions I think if Arafat attempted to stop all paramilitary activity the result would be his own disposition.

Undertoad · 09-02-2002, 08:58 AM

Given their recent proclivity towards summary executions I should think Arafat would know which side his bread is buttered.

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-04-2002, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Why do I have the nasty feeling I’m going to put up with far too many of your righteous rants?

If they are right, they will be righteous indeed, O Sophomore. And with that sentence, I know that you are sulking. Understandable -- I've done that sort of thing in the past, and at your age to boot. I am easily twice your age, and it makes my mind tougher, my words and actions more considered. Consequently, I've had a lot of practice at not sulking -- and it does pay off if you work at it.

jaguar · 09-07-2002, 03:30 AM

For someone so pretentious you sure are childish.

08-07-2002, 02:03 AM	#1
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	Palestinian bicyclist I've been thinking about this news photo for the past couple days. For some reason it was sticking in my head, and I wasn't sure why. <I>Palestinians run and crawl for cover following an Israeli helicopter attack in Gaza Strip August 5, 2002. Israeli military helicopters fired three missiles at a foundry in Gaza City which the Israeli armed forces said was a Palestinian weapons factory.</I> It seems like more often than not, pictures of Palestinians in the U.S. media are either flag burnings, groups of kids giving "victory" symbols, body parts scattered in the aftermath of a suicide bombing, etc. But here's this guy. It looks like he was out for a bike ride in his shorts and sandals, enjoying the evening, when all the sudden he gets blown off his bike and has to seek cover. Now, I'm not taking either side here, although I definitely have my views on the situation in general. I guess this picture just drives home to me how much life must fucking suck for both groups. This Reuters photo was put out shortly after Griff told us about his birthday ride. And here's Griff's counterpart in Gaza, just out for a joy ride on a nice Monday night. Only while Griff is worrying about whether that neighbor's dog will nip his tires, this guy is worrying about the fucking missile that just exploded a couple hundred yards away. I guess I don't really have a point to make, just that it really sucks to be some people or groups of people, and it sucks that we can't make all that sucking go away.

08-07-2002, 02:23 AM	#2
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	http://www.foreignpolicy.com/issue_j...2002/ross.html Facinating article about someone who was @ the negoiatations. You woudln't expect me to post that one but i foudn it interesting, and it has had an effect on my opinion of Arafat. I'm a little dubious about the ability to rein in militants though. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-13-2002, 06:18 AM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Great find Tob. Its connections like this that make an unreal situation real. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

09-07-2002, 03:30 AM	#12
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	For someone so pretentious you sure are childish. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-07-2002, 07:47 AM	#3
dave Guest Posts: n/a	The suck quotient is extremely high.

08-07-2002, 05:35 PM	#4
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Its a great shot and does stick with you. Its the moment- is he gonna make it? Is he fast enough? Can he find cover? Does he make the correct last minute decision? It reminds me of one of my reoccurring anxiety nightmares- the one where my knees turn to jelly just when I need to scramble.

08-08-2002, 02:28 PM	#5
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	He probably made it if the cameraman made it -- and he even stopped to take a shot or two.

08-12-2002, 08:45 PM	#6
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	It night. Israeli choppers are attacking. You are just trying to keep low and get away hidden in the dark. Then some idiot snaps a flash picture of you - so that every chopper pilot can see you. Was this guy pissed?

09-02-2002, 08:58 AM	#10
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Given their recent proclivity towards summary executions I should think Arafat would know which side his bread is buttered.

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