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Old 11-03-2006, 09:39 PM   #46
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Institutions can't act, only people. By saying that "Christians do blah blah blah", you include me, an individual Christian, in your statement.
Same as above goes for you. Deal with it. You choose to be part of a diverse group, and label yoruself with that group affiliation. Not my fault.

Edit: By the way, you'll notice I never said "Christians do blah blah blah" - I said Christianity. The Institution. To clarify your misunderstanding.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:40 PM   #47
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Astro-Glide That soooo sounds like a suspension system for a 1967 Buick.
Astro was Chevy.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:42 PM   #48
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Why should I "respect" religion? Any religion?
Because some of them will cut your head off, if you don't.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:46 PM   #49
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...because it's clear that my point will not be acknowledged for what it is...
I've noticed, in several of your posts, that you attribute people not agreeing with you to them not understanding or acknowledging your point.

You have to admit, sometimes people just disagree.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:50 PM   #50
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Well you see,the masseuse told him how it improved his sexual prowess so the Rev bought some. But when his wife said she wasn't taking it up the ass, he threw it away.
You mean "giving" it to him up the ass.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:50 PM   #51
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I'm with Flint about the INSTITUTION of Christianity not being christianity, or christians, or anything, in the same way that the White House is not America.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:51 PM   #52
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Hand Check!
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:51 PM   #53
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No, I don't. I understand that you'll always take it that way, but that doesn't change what I mean. I don't hold Christianity as beyond criticism, where it is deserved. That's what I would have to do in order to satisfy your conditions that nothing bad ever be said about Christianity under any circumstance whatsoever. I'm not gonna play that game. Sorry.
What you do is blame Christianity for the actions of individual people or religions. If you have a problem with some part (or all of) the Roman Catholic Religion, you say Christianity. Same with the Baptist Religion, or Lutheran, et al. That's not right. When you say Christian or Christianity that includes(unfairly) everyone.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:54 PM   #54
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I've explained what I mean by Christian, countless times. It's the obvious definition.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:54 PM   #55
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You mean "giving" it to him up the ass.
I don't know if he thought it would give him, or her, the prowess.
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:37 AM   #56
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As exciting as the story is to you, there was really no need to blaspheme.
I wonder what is blasphemy? My ironic thread title, or the incredible hypocrite behavior of a President of 20,000,000 christians in the US and A? Or for instance catholic priests fondling around with kids, of which I'm certain has only been shown a tip of the iceberg? Grapes are sour, Wolf?
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You mean "giving" it to him up the ass.
According Haggard's lover they had only sex one time. Usually they performed oral sex.... oops... massage.

Watched Haggard answering questions in his car, his wife sitting next to him. Felt sorry for her, being married an sitting next to such a creep.
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:43 AM   #57
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If Jesus told him to buy it and then throw it out, that makes it alright.
That's called a price support, its part of the Republican agenda.
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Old 11-05-2006, 12:18 AM   #58
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I wonder what is blasphemy? My ironic thread title, or the incredible hypocrite behavior of a President of 20,000,000 christians in the US and A?
Who are you talking about?
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Old 11-05-2006, 07:54 AM   #59
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Who are you talking about?
According Haggard´s own website:

"Pastor Ted Haggard is the president of the 30 million-member National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), the largest evangelical group in America."

Sorry, I was wrong, it wasn´t 20 Mio but 30 Mio.

Who do you thought I was talking about, Merl Haggard?
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:05 AM   #60
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I didn't know if you were talking about Haggard or Bush. All you said was president of 20 million christians in the US.

As an aside, don't be fooled into thinking more than 10% of those 30 million people he purports to represent, even knew his name before the shit hit the fan.
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