6/18/2003: Overdressed middle-schoolers couldn't graduate - Page 2

chrisinhouston · 06-18-2003, 03:48 PM

You can email Ms Jung at
jung_wendy@hcde.org
to voice your feeling

warch · 06-18-2003, 05:25 PM

this is from a Washington Post article. 6/14

Quote:

Jung has apologized and may be asked to attend sensitivity courses, Marsh said. Hamilton County Commissioner Curtis Adams, a vocal critic of Jung, thinks the school should demote her until she learns what should and shouldn't be said to 12-year-olds.
Then again, Adams said, it could have been worse: "I'm just glad she didn't tell the girls they looked like whores."

Its not the ban, its the riddicule that is offensive. As we've explored in other threads, relating to kids is tough. Middle school principal is one of your tougher gigs. But this is not a tactic a strong head educator should be grappling for. So, she bugs me, but I know her bacon is frying.

juju · 06-18-2003, 05:55 PM

Sensitivity courses? I can't believe they actually have such things. What a bunch of crap!

They're basically attempting to force her to change who she is. That's her decision, and no amount of classes is going to change that. And if she does make the decision to change, then she can damn well do it without some class.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-18-2003, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Sensitivity courses? I can't believe they actually have such things. What a bunch of crap!

They go right along with anger management class.

paranoid · 06-18-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju
Sensitivity courses? I can't believe they actually have such things. What a bunch of crap!

They're basically attempting to force her to change who she is. That's her decision, and no amount of classes is going to change that. And if she does make the decision to change, then she can damn well do it without some class.

I disagree. She doesn't have to change who she is. She has to realise that there are actually live people around and these people have the right to be themselves, and probably different from Ms. Jung. Sensitivity is not rejecting yourself, it's being considerate to others. And hopefully she can be taught that.

Stonan · 06-18-2003, 08:56 PM

For my grad ceremonies (way, way back) a couple of guys showed up in their Cadet dress uniforms. I wonder what that anal bitch would have done if THAT had happened...

SteveDallas · 06-19-2003, 08:55 AM

Well, if her intention was to limit what students wore, she should have been very specific about what was and was not allowed. For instance, did she specify no jackets for the boys? I'm sure we'll hear more.

But, wait wait wait, this school is called "academy of fine arts"? In my experience, the kind of kids who go to an "academy of fine arts" are going to have a tendency to be on the unconventional side when they have a chance to dress up.

Oh, and any school administrator who told my son he looked like a pimp would never wake up in the morning again without regretting she or he said it.

chrisinhouston · 06-19-2003, 12:59 PM

I don't think anyone would argue these days that there has to be some sort of rules for ceremonies like this. I recall a few years back a High School student here in Houston who upon receiving his diploma and giving the Principal a handshake deposted a used condom in her hand. As I recall she somehow rescinded him graduating and expelled him. I recall his parents complaining that he was only doing a childish prank and should not have been punished. With parents like that no wonder he did what he did.

But the authorities can go to far. We also had an episode at a HS for performing arts here in Houston where the principal had laid down the rules prior to graduation. No funny stuff on stage, period. Somewhere in the middle of the graduation ceremony a girl whose major was ballet did a pirrouette and the principal shut down the graduation leaving a hundred kids with no ceremony.

At my own kids high school graduation a few years back someone in the graduate seating area let loose of 2 ducks who wandered out into the open while the principal was speaking. Always wondered how they kept them quiet under their robes as they marched in.

When I graduated HS in 1974, I told the teacher in charge of the name list to please put "Esquire" after my name. She laughed and said, "yea, right!"

Still, from what I see in the pictures, the kids didn't look to wild in those outfits, they could have been a whole lot worse.

Dagney · 06-19-2003, 05:40 PM

Yeah, they could have been dressed for the prom!

In my high school, if you had that much flesh exposed, you either had to wear your coat, or go home.

(Nifty belly dancer's outfit though, wonder if she knows what it's for)

Dags

Undertoad · 06-19-2003, 07:05 PM

From today's Fark comes this one. Tim Mains is the principal that shows how it's done: he told the math students that if they improved, they could duck tape him to the wall. And so they did.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...545_news.shtml

russotto · 06-20-2003, 09:54 AM

The boy doesn't have nearly enough flashy gold jewelry to be a pimp.

Bitmap · 06-20-2003, 03:02 PM

I wonder what type of tape DUCK tape is, does it quack? or have feathers? i've never heard of DUCK tape.
I've heard of DUCT tape though.

They should have used Gaffers tape much stronger, and stickeyer.

Happy Monkey · 06-20-2003, 03:10 PM

Duck Tape is a brand of duct tape. Seems to leave less residue than other brands.

Doesn't mean that it wasn't a typo, though.

Undertoad · 06-20-2003, 03:41 PM

Duck tape is actually the right term, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

warch · 06-20-2003, 05:29 PM

Mr. Mains didn't want no residue.

06-18-2003, 08:56 PM	#21
Stonan Do-er of Deeds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cloverdale, British Columbia, Canada, Earth, Universe #42 Posts: 41	For my grad ceremonies (way, way back) a couple of guys showed up in their Cadet dress uniforms. I wonder what that anal bitch would have done if THAT had happened... __________________ Jesus got it wrong by one letter: The Geek shall inherit the earth...

06-19-2003, 05:40 PM	#24
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	Yeah, they could have been dressed for the prom! In my high school, if you had that much flesh exposed, you either had to wear your coat, or go home. (Nifty belly dancer's outfit though, wonder if she knows what it's for) Dags __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

06-20-2003, 03:10 PM	#28
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Duck Tape Duck Tape is a brand of duct tape. Seems to leave less residue than other brands. Doesn't mean that it wasn't a typo, though. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-18-2003, 03:48 PM	#16
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	You can email Ms Jung at jung_wendy@hcde.org to voice your feeling

06-18-2003, 05:55 PM	#18
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Sensitivity courses? I can't believe they actually have such things. What a bunch of crap! They're basically attempting to force her to change who she is. That's her decision, and no amount of classes is going to change that. And if she does make the decision to change, then she can damn well do it without some class.

06-19-2003, 08:55 AM	#22
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Well, if her intention was to limit what students wore, she should have been very specific about what was and was not allowed. For instance, did she specify no jackets for the boys? I'm sure we'll hear more. But, wait wait wait, this school is called "academy of fine arts"? In my experience, the kind of kids who go to an "academy of fine arts" are going to have a tendency to be on the unconventional side when they have a chance to dress up. Oh, and any school administrator who told my son he looked like a pimp would never wake up in the morning again without regretting she or he said it.

06-19-2003, 12:59 PM	#23
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	I don't think anyone would argue these days that there has to be some sort of rules for ceremonies like this. I recall a few years back a High School student here in Houston who upon receiving his diploma and giving the Principal a handshake deposted a used condom in her hand. As I recall she somehow rescinded him graduating and expelled him. I recall his parents complaining that he was only doing a childish prank and should not have been punished. With parents like that no wonder he did what he did. But the authorities can go to far. We also had an episode at a HS for performing arts here in Houston where the principal had laid down the rules prior to graduation. No funny stuff on stage, period. Somewhere in the middle of the graduation ceremony a girl whose major was ballet did a pirrouette and the principal shut down the graduation leaving a hundred kids with no ceremony. At my own kids high school graduation a few years back someone in the graduate seating area let loose of 2 ducks who wandered out into the open while the principal was speaking. Always wondered how they kept them quiet under their robes as they marched in. When I graduated HS in 1974, I told the teacher in charge of the name list to please put "Esquire" after my name. She laughed and said, "yea, right!" Still, from what I see in the pictures, the kids didn't look to wild in those outfits, they could have been a whole lot worse.

06-19-2003, 07:05 PM	#25
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	From today's Fark comes this one. Tim Mains is the principal that shows how it's done: he told the math students that if they improved, they could duck tape him to the wall. And so they did. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...545_news.shtml

06-20-2003, 09:54 AM	#26
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The boy doesn't have nearly enough flashy gold jewelry to be a pimp.

06-20-2003, 03:02 PM	#27
Bitmap Look who thinks he's clever Dan. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Washington DC Metro Area. Fairfax city Posts: 226	I wonder what type of tape DUCK tape is, does it quack? or have feathers? i've never heard of DUCK tape. I've heard of DUCT tape though. They should have used Gaffers tape much stronger, and stickeyer.

06-20-2003, 03:41 PM	#29
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Duck tape is actually the right term, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

06-20-2003, 05:29 PM	#30
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Mr. Mains didn't want no residue.

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