12/10/2003: Shooter Malvo's notebook

Undertoad · 12-10-2003, 11:02 AM

The "DC Sniper" trials turned up this interesting item: Malvo's notebook. The jottings of a 17-year-old show us that he was a pretty confused lad, instructed by Black Muslim teachings and grown into a state of rage. He identified with Jihad, drew heroic images of Hussein and Khaddafi, seems to have believed in the Matrix in some form, and wrote disconnected quotes from all of the above.

The full set of drawings is here, interpersed with PDF court documents. It doesn't read like a trip into madness, more like a kid so full of rage that it had to come out.

Beestie · 12-10-2003, 11:14 AM

I could read all that (and did read a little) but I thought I'd post another drawing that Malvo might consider familiarizing himself with:

wolf · 12-10-2003, 11:24 AM

That's kid high school hero artwork.

I have seen more than my fair share of crazy-guy stuff.

What's on that page is too organized, too coherent.

Of course, I'm no highly paid court expert.

But I do know crazy.

I have some crazy guy art around here somewhere ... (my best piece is a 40 or more single spaced typed screed that inlcudes occasional hand underlinings and illustrations. I misplace it, and recover it every so often. I'll have to actually initiate a search for it, in hopes that I can share some of it with you.)

ndetroit · 12-10-2003, 12:09 PM

I'd like to see some of the artwork you have wolf.. if you're allowed to share it.... ..

Where are the matrix references in this? I don't think I could find them.

and for the curious, I had no idea who "Willie Lynch" was, but here he is:

The Making of a Slave

Is that something american kids are taught in school? I'm really surprised I had never heard of him..

Undertoad · 12-10-2003, 02:05 PM

The Matrix bits aren't on this page, but I saw it on a few of the other pages.

This one (link below) came after the arrest in the jailhouse and says "Free yourself of the matrix "control" free first your mind. Trust me! The body will follow."

http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/courts/c...03df65_006.jpg

ndetroit · 12-10-2003, 03:16 PM

"Free your mind, and the rest will follow" ...

.... it might not be a matrix reference... he could be a big george clinton fan .....

(or maybe en vogue?) .. hah.

hmmm... from looking at the bit at the bottom there, looks like he's also a boyzone fan:

http://www.lyrics.net.ua/song/86891

wolf · 12-10-2003, 03:20 PM

I find it amusing that the historic document is reproduced intact, but for one word.

ndetroit · 12-10-2003, 05:28 PM

Yeah, I was a little thrown off by that too, but I think that the paper is in one of the plastic paper-cover things, and the sticker is on the outside of the plastic....

...

.... how long until one of those drawings is stolen and put on ebay, or similar?

and how much?

ladysycamore · 12-10-2003, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ndetroit
and for the curious, I had no idea who "Willie Lynch" was, but here he is:

The Making of a Slave

Is that something american kids are taught in school? I'm really surprised I had never heard of him..

Don't be...many people are not familiar with that aspect of American history (not surprising). Your jaw would drop at the amount of history not included in textbooks (or the inaccurate accounts of history in those books).

"Black is not skin, it's a state of mind." Interesting statement...

Slartibartfast · 12-10-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore

"Black is not skin, it's a state of mind." Interesting statement...

Yes, it implies a whole slew of beliefs and thoughts not just of Malvoe's, but also of the society he lives in.
It is a very interesting statement.

But to paraphrase in a way that puts things into perspective...

"Blue is not eye color, it's a state of mind"

Doesn't that sound like nonsense?

skin color is important because people have fixated on it as something that seperates groups.

Then again, racists such as the KKK don't harass people because of eye color, so the fact is that skin has a profound effect on a person's opportunities and aspirations.

Should that have to be the case?

wolf · 12-10-2003, 10:50 PM

Has anyone seen this Frontline?

It's one of their classic episodes. There are 28 full shows available in streaming video at http://www.pbs.org/frontline

juju · 12-10-2003, 11:06 PM

Yeah, that's a classic. It's really cool that they offer some of their shows on the web, too.

Torrere · 12-11-2003, 04:21 PM

Whoa! I wish that I'd been taught about Willie Lynch in school. That's some powerful stuff, and I notice that much of it applies to most people these days.

[quote]Slartibartfast:
skin color is important because people have fixated on it as something that seperates groups.</quote>

It's not even a very good method of separating groups based on ethnicity, which I believe is what it's supposed to do. Quoth Scientific American: "approximately 30 percent of Americans who consider themselves 'white' have less than 90 percent European ancestry. " Skin color doesn't matter.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-11-2003, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by wolf
I find it amusing that the historic document is reproduced intact, but for one word.

Historic document?? The US Constitution, The Bill of Rights, the Gettysburg Address, The first episode script of I love Lucy, but that?

ladysycamore · 12-11-2003, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Yes, it implies a whole slew of beliefs and thoughts not just of Malvoe's, but also of the society he lives in.
It is a very interesting statement.

But to paraphrase in a way that puts things into perspective...

"Blue is not eye color, it's a state of mind"

Doesn't that sound like nonsense?

Well...yes THAT does, but the same comment (when the word "black" is used) struck me differently (maybe because I am black, so I saw it more as a strong, but interesting statement).

Quote:

skin color is important because people have fixated on it as something that seperates groups.

Precisely.

Quote:

Then again, racists such as the KKK don't harass people because of eye color, so the fact is that skin has a profound effect on a person's opportunities and aspirations.

Should that have to be the case?

Certainly not.

12-10-2003, 11:02 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	12/10/2003: Shooter Malvo's notebook The "DC Sniper" trials turned up this interesting item: Malvo's notebook. The jottings of a 17-year-old show us that he was a pretty confused lad, instructed by Black Muslim teachings and grown into a state of rage. He identified with Jihad, drew heroic images of Hussein and Khaddafi, seems to have believed in the Matrix in some form, and wrote disconnected quotes from all of the above. The full set of drawings is here, interpersed with PDF court documents. It doesn't read like a trip into madness, more like a kid so full of rage that it had to come out.

12-10-2003, 11:14 AM	#2
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	I could read all that (and did read a little) but I thought I'd post another drawing that Malvo might consider familiarizing himself with: __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

12-10-2003, 11:24 AM	#3
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	That's kid high school hero artwork. I have seen more than my fair share of crazy-guy stuff. What's on that page is too organized, too coherent. Of course, I'm no highly paid court expert. But I do know crazy. I have some crazy guy art around here somewhere ... (my best piece is a 40 or more single spaced typed screed that inlcudes occasional hand underlinings and illustrations. I misplace it, and recover it every so often. I'll have to actually initiate a search for it, in hopes that I can share some of it with you.) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-10-2003, 03:20 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I find it amusing that the historic document is reproduced intact, but for one word. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-10-2003, 10:50 PM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Has anyone seen this Frontline? It's one of their classic episodes. There are 28 full shows available in streaming video at http://www.pbs.org/frontline __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-10-2003, 12:09 PM	#4
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	I'd like to see some of the artwork you have wolf.. if you're allowed to share it.... .. Where are the matrix references in this? I don't think I could find them. and for the curious, I had no idea who "Willie Lynch" was, but here he is: The Making of a Slave Is that something american kids are taught in school? I'm really surprised I had never heard of him..

12-10-2003, 02:05 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The Matrix bits aren't on this page, but I saw it on a few of the other pages. This one (link below) came after the arrest in the jailhouse and says "Free yourself of the matrix "control" free first your mind. Trust me! The body will follow." http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/courts/c...03df65_006.jpg

12-10-2003, 03:16 PM	#6
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	"Free your mind, and the rest will follow" ... .... it might not be a matrix reference... he could be a big george clinton fan ..... (or maybe en vogue?) .. hah. hmmm... from looking at the bit at the bottom there, looks like he's also a boyzone fan: http://www.lyrics.net.ua/song/86891

12-10-2003, 05:28 PM	#8
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	Yeah, I was a little thrown off by that too, but I think that the paper is in one of the plastic paper-cover things, and the sticker is on the outside of the plastic.... ... .... how long until one of those drawings is stolen and put on ebay, or similar? and how much?

12-10-2003, 11:06 PM	#12
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Yeah, that's a classic. It's really cool that they offer some of their shows on the web, too.

12-11-2003, 04:21 PM	#13
Torrere a real smartass Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,121	Whoa! I wish that I'd been taught about Willie Lynch in school. That's some powerful stuff, and I notice that much of it applies to most people these days. [quote]Slartibartfast: skin color is important because people have fixated on it as something that seperates groups.</quote> It's not even a very good method of separating groups based on ethnicity, which I believe is what it's supposed to do. Quoth Scientific American: "approximately 30 percent of Americans who consider themselves 'white' have less than 90 percent European ancestry. " Skin color doesn't matter.

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