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Old 02-29-2012, 02:28 AM   #16
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Apply for a job you don't want, and reject them. Just for kicks.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:47 AM   #17
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I just don't know if I can afford to move to Montana.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:59 AM   #18
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Especially since you'd have to dig up the Cellar and move that too.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:53 AM   #19
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Interview question (genuine, btw):

"What five words will be on your tombstone?"

I said "Pepperoni, sausage, onions, bacon, cheese".
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:31 AM   #20
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I just don't know if I can afford to move to Montana.
You could raise dental floss on the side.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:27 PM   #21
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I just don't know if I can afford to move to Montana.
You can find higher salaries here in the private sector. There are actually a fair number of small shops that are looking for folks. I can get you a line on some of that, but I'll have to dig through my email/bookmarks a bit so let me know if you are interested.

I know at least three people who moved from the east coast to Helena at around the same point in their lives and careers that you seem to be at. At least one of home credits it with vastly improved mental and physical health. He moved here and lost 60-80lbs without trying. Low-stress job and easy access to the trail system. Some folks commute by hiking/biking the trail system.
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Old 03-05-2012, 02:50 AM   #22
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A friend's brother asked for my resume. I'm still not sure if I should send this or something traditional. Or nothing at all, this is a consulting place and I generally don't get along well with those greed heads.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:08 AM   #23
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Send this one! When you get a job with them you can start to look around for one that suits you better (It is easier to get a job when you have one already).
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:50 AM   #24
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Send the resume, take the job, and be yourself until they either get used to you or rid of you.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:26 AM   #25
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You can be the new culture of the place. Or barring that, Limey's angle is smart consultant work will put you out there.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:15 AM   #26
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Send both. Use this one as a cover letter intro sort of thing.
Its great because it summarizes so much quickly.
If they want more detail, they can read the other one.
I just read that your resume gets about 2 SECONDS of time with the initial reviewer.
If nothing interests them, you're done.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:40 AM   #27
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I'm with classicman.

My resume is clocking in around three pages these days. Most of the first pages is a compressed view of the stuff I can do. The rest of it is diving deeper into what I can do with what technologies then what I have done and for whom. It's always tailored to fit whatever position I'm applying for, details removed/added/emphasized.

There is some repetition, but this is not as offensive to regular people as it is to most programmers.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:50 AM   #28
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... I generally don't get along well with those greed heads.
You can decide this later, when they've offered you the job and you've actually met the people!
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:54 AM   #29
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A friend's brother asked for my resume. I'm still not sure if I should send this or something traditional. Or nothing at all, this is a consulting place and I generally don't get along well with those greed heads.
part of being employed and STAYING employed is getting along with people you dislike. just sayin'
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:04 AM   #30
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It's a two-way street: I've been laid off and/or fired as much as I've gotten disgusted and quit. My average time with any employer has been about two years. And in as much as I see my life as a series of failures, that's a treadmill I shouldn't return to. I need to find a place that fits, or jump off the Walt Whitman.
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