Lights Out

elSicomoro · 08-14-2003, 05:33 PM

No note on where this is...looks like it might be in Brooklyn

The ferry terminal on NYC's west side

(Photos from WNBC-TV, New York)

OnyxCougar · 08-14-2003, 05:45 PM

I don't understand why this is such a big deal. So the power is out. And?

juju · 08-14-2003, 05:49 PM

Well, how are all those people going to get home? Walk?

elSicomoro · 08-14-2003, 05:51 PM

Well, it hit the nation's largest city, a good swath of the US, the capital of Canada, and its largest city...all at the same time. Not to mention, there were no warnings of impending blackouts or brownouts in the US. And as far as New York--it's already been hit by 9/11, and was left a mess after the Blackout of '77. And it will be dark in just over an hour.

I don't know about you, but I'd say the story as a whole is a big deal.

juju · 08-14-2003, 05:51 PM

I can't see the pics.

juju · 08-14-2003, 05:53 PM

Plus, security cameras and alarm systems will not be functional. Stores will be ripe for the picking!

elSicomoro · 08-14-2003, 05:54 PM

Juju, they're not very good (I think they were taken from a helicopter), but they should be showing up:

http://msdelta.net/~sycamore/cellar/blackout.jpg

http://msdelta.net/~sycamore/cellar/blackout2.jpg

elSicomoro · 08-14-2003, 05:56 PM

Everything I've seen and heard so far is talking about how calm everyone has been thus far. Good stuff!

OnyxCougar · 08-14-2003, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Well, it hit the nation's largest city, a good swath of the US, the capital of Canada, and its largest city...all at the same time. Not to mention, there were no warnings of impending blackouts or brownouts in the US. And as far as New York--it's already been hit by 9/11, and was left a mess after the Blackout of '77. And it will be dark in just over an hour.

I don't know about you, but I'd say the story as a whole is a big deal.

OK, so it hit a bunch of cities at the same time. I'm not sure how that makes a difference. Now, I can see it would be a bitch if you're on the subway, and have to walk home the rest of the way, but still... it's a power outage.... I guess I'm just ignorant of the consequences. I'm sitting here watching the news, so I see all the people on the street, walking home, mugging for the camera, etc, but still... Vegas's power went down too, and it wasn't a "SPECIAL REPORT" broadcast nationwide...

juju · 08-14-2003, 05:58 PM

Yeah, I already tried the direct links. It just times out after a while and says "503 - Connection failed".

I'm just assuming it's a temporary problem associated with some server somewhere with no power, but I thought I'd mention it nonetheless.

elSicomoro · 08-14-2003, 06:28 PM

But has Las Vegas had a total power outage since 9/11? And wasn't Nevada somewhat tied into the California energy crisis a few years ago? Not to mention, Las Vegas is a podunk town compared to Toronto and New York. (No offense meant, just a comparison of size and people.)

It hasn't affected you, and it hasn't affected me either. But this would have grabbed my attention in any case b/c I know New York. I know what it's like on a normal workday. I know what it's like during the afternoon rush hour. And while things have apparently gone smoothly thus far, I can only imagine what it would be like to be stuck in Manhattan: trying to get off the island, unable to use the transportation systems I normally do, unable to take money out of the bank, etc.

08-14-2003, 06:31 PM

Here's why it's important: people are on life support in those cities.

OnyxCougar · 08-14-2003, 06:35 PM

I know, Dave, but if they are on life support, they are in a hospital, and hospitals have back up generators for this very circumstance.

08-14-2003, 06:38 PM

Heh. I promise that something went wrong to cause this failure, which means something can go wrong with them. Is it likely? No.

(Is it likely that what happened today would happen?)

It's important because nowadays, lives depend on electricity. Even when there's a single backup, that's not always good enough.

elSicomoro · 08-14-2003, 06:41 PM

And anything that happens in New York these days tends to have repercussions beyond New York...especially in this neck of the woods (Philadelphia, DC).

Some hospitals were apparently having problems with getting power earlier, but Bloomberg says they all have power now.

20 minutes until sunset...

08-14-2003, 05:33 PM	#1
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Lights Out No note on where this is...looks like it might be in Brooklyn The ferry terminal on NYC's west side (Photos from WNBC-TV, New York)

08-14-2003, 05:45 PM	#2
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I don't understand why this is such a big deal. So the power is out. And? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

08-14-2003, 06:35 PM	#13
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I know, Dave, but if they are on life support, they are in a hospital, and hospitals have back up generators for this very circumstance. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

08-14-2003, 05:49 PM	#3
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Well, how are all those people going to get home? Walk?

08-14-2003, 05:51 PM	#4
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Well, it hit the nation's largest city, a good swath of the US, the capital of Canada, and its largest city...all at the same time. Not to mention, there were no warnings of impending blackouts or brownouts in the US. And as far as New York--it's already been hit by 9/11, and was left a mess after the Blackout of '77. And it will be dark in just over an hour. I don't know about you, but I'd say the story as a whole is a big deal.

08-14-2003, 05:53 PM	#6
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Plus, security cameras and alarm systems will not be functional. Stores will be ripe for the picking!

08-14-2003, 05:54 PM	#7
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Juju, they're not very good (I think they were taken from a helicopter), but they should be showing up: http://msdelta.net/~sycamore/cellar/blackout.jpg http://msdelta.net/~sycamore/cellar/blackout2.jpg

08-14-2003, 05:56 PM	#8
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Everything I've seen and heard so far is talking about how calm everyone has been thus far. Good stuff!

08-14-2003, 05:58 PM	#10
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Yeah, I already tried the direct links. It just times out after a while and says "503 - Connection failed". I'm just assuming it's a temporary problem associated with some server somewhere with no power, but I thought I'd mention it nonetheless.

08-14-2003, 06:28 PM	#11
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	But has Las Vegas had a total power outage since 9/11? And wasn't Nevada somewhat tied into the California energy crisis a few years ago? Not to mention, Las Vegas is a podunk town compared to Toronto and New York. (No offense meant, just a comparison of size and people.) It hasn't affected you, and it hasn't affected me either. But this would have grabbed my attention in any case b/c I know New York. I know what it's like on a normal workday. I know what it's like during the afternoon rush hour. And while things have apparently gone smoothly thus far, I can only imagine what it would be like to be stuck in Manhattan: trying to get off the island, unable to use the transportation systems I normally do, unable to take money out of the bank, etc.

08-14-2003, 06:31 PM	#12
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Here's why it's important: people are on life support in those cities.

08-14-2003, 06:38 PM	#14
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Heh. I promise that something went wrong to cause this failure, which means something can go wrong with them. Is it likely? No. (Is it likely that what happened today would happen?) It's important because nowadays, lives depend on electricity. Even when there's a single backup, that's not always good enough.

08-14-2003, 06:41 PM	#15
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	And anything that happens in New York these days tends to have repercussions beyond New York...especially in this neck of the woods (Philadelphia, DC). Some hospitals were apparently having problems with getting power earlier, but Bloomberg says they all have power now. 20 minutes until sunset...

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