3/9/2005: Rowing on ice

Undertoad · 03-09-2005, 01:54 PM

Pastoral today. The official caption: Head of the Charles rowing regatta Executive Director Fred Schoch (Front) and Assistant Director Chris Kerber (Rear) row through the ice on Boston's Charles River near the Harvard University Boathouse, March 1, 2005. The two men decided to go for a row in defiance of the continued wintry conditions in the Northeast of the United States in the month of March and to get ready for their regatta early this year.

lumberjim · 03-09-2005, 05:20 PM

just replying because i dont want to see an iotd go down in flames. but.....this is a bit boring.

capnhowdy · 03-09-2005, 05:45 PM

Then there ARE actually people out there as stubborn and bullheaded as yours truly.

Griff · 03-09-2005, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

just replying because i dont want to see an iotd go down in flames. but.....this is a bit boring.

Don't beat up UT too much. We've all been a little out of it since the Grail's first round upset loss.

Undertoad · 03-09-2005, 06:50 PM

People have sent in better ones too

I need an IotD breather since I've been doing it for so long. I want to build a submission/nomination device that will autopost to the thread, but it's hard.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-09-2005, 07:08 PM

Considering the winter Boston has had it's not surprising they're getting a little stir crazy. From the spacing of the oar marks I'd say they're making pretty good speed. Taking the same route back doesn't hurt either.

hampor · 03-09-2005, 07:19 PM

Great picture!

Typically the ice on the Charles breaks up in mid March, just in time for MITs spring break, when the crew team starts doing twice a day practices. Until then it's weights, rowing in the tank, and running up the Green Building.

The first race is on April 2.

Dartmouth has it much worse. They usually only get a week between ice-out and the first race. Needless to say their record tend to improve as the season goes on.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-09-2005, 07:24 PM

Dartmouth needs an Endless Pool to train in.

Griff · 03-09-2005, 07:45 PM

Maybe a pic thread feeder with a limited thread life? General acclamation to move a pic over to the p-o-t day er... iod thread? You do so well with it though and its one of the real hooks here, do you really want to hand the keys over? It might get sucky...

Griff · 03-09-2005, 08:07 PM

Make Lumberdave do it!

Clodfobble · 03-09-2005, 08:42 PM

I was under the impression you were overflowing with images... I come across interesting things often but think, "Nah, I bet someone's already sent it to him." Maybe if people just made an effort to send you more, it wouldn't be too much work?

Undertoad · 03-09-2005, 10:10 PM

The hardest part is the posting - if I just wrote the autopost part it would be a lot easier. Enh, I'll work on it. IotD must go on and improve!

Slight · 03-09-2005, 11:47 PM

I agree and disagree with lumberjim. The picture is boring in terms of composition. The subject however, rowing through ice is intriguing, like riding a bike on ice, because you can. I totally disagree with lumberjim that IotD is going down. I think UT does a great job, day in, day out (that is hard work) with subjects that are always mind twisting. kudos UT.

hampor · 03-10-2005, 12:51 AM

Any decent college crew already has a rowing tank that's kind of like the endless pool. There are some good pictures here: http://www.durhamboat.com/TANK.HTM

The problem is that rowing in the tank only gets you so far. It's like training for a marathon on the stairmaster. It's better than nothing, but it's not the real thing.

The hard part about rowing (besides the blisters on your palms, gasping for breath, and those times when both legs fall asleep and you have to stumble around on the dock in your socks through the goose turds) is balance.

The boats balance OK if all the rowers put the oars in the water. It's when they lift oars up that the boat can flop to the left or right. If the ports each raise their blades a little, and the starboards all lower a little, then the shell is going to lean over to the left. It's kind of like balancing on a tightrope with a balance pole, except that four people are hold the left pointing half of the pole, and four are holding the right half.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2005, 04:02 AM

Thanks Hampor, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that kind of thing existed.

Do those boats (shells, skulls) have any kind of keel? I know some canoes do and some don't.

03-09-2005, 01:54 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	3/9/2005: Rowing on ice Pastoral today. The official caption: Head of the Charles rowing regatta Executive Director Fred Schoch (Front) and Assistant Director Chris Kerber (Rear) row through the ice on Boston's Charles River near the Harvard University Boathouse, March 1, 2005. The two men decided to go for a row in defiance of the continued wintry conditions in the Northeast of the United States in the month of March and to get ready for their regatta early this year.

03-09-2005, 05:20 PM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	just replying because i dont want to see an iotd go down in flames. but.....this is a bit boring. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-09-2005, 05:45 PM	#3
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Then there ARE actually people out there as stubborn and bullheaded as yours truly. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

03-09-2005, 07:08 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Considering the winter Boston has had it's not surprising they're getting a little stir crazy. From the spacing of the oar marks I'd say they're making pretty good speed. Taking the same route back doesn't hurt either. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-09-2005, 07:19 PM	#7
hampor Colloquialist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SiliValley Posts: 75	Long ago I was a crew Jock. Great picture! Typically the ice on the Charles breaks up in mid March, just in time for MITs spring break, when the crew team starts doing twice a day practices. Until then it's weights, rowing in the tank, and running up the Green Building. The first race is on April 2. Dartmouth has it much worse. They usually only get a week between ice-out and the first race. Needless to say their record tend to improve as the season goes on.

03-09-2005, 06:50 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	People have sent in better ones too I need an IotD breather since I've been doing it for so long. I want to build a submission/nomination device that will autopost to the thread, but it's hard.

03-09-2005, 07:24 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Dartmouth needs an Endless Pool to train in. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-09-2005, 07:45 PM	#9
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Maybe a pic thread feeder with a limited thread life? General acclamation to move a pic over to the p-o-t day er... iod thread? You do so well with it though and its one of the real hooks here, do you really want to hand the keys over? It might get sucky... __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-09-2005, 08:07 PM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Make Lumberdave do it! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-09-2005, 08:42 PM	#11
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I was under the impression you were overflowing with images... I come across interesting things often but think, "Nah, I bet someone's already sent it to him." Maybe if people just made an effort to send you more, it wouldn't be too much work?

03-09-2005, 10:10 PM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The hardest part is the posting - if I just wrote the autopost part it would be a lot easier. Enh, I'll work on it. IotD must go on and improve!

03-09-2005, 11:47 PM	#13
Slight Semi-Evil Genius Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boulder CO Posts: 195	I agree and disagree with lumberjim. The picture is boring in terms of composition. The subject however, rowing through ice is intriguing, like riding a bike on ice, because you can. I totally disagree with lumberjim that IotD is going down. I think UT does a great job, day in, day out (that is hard work) with subjects that are always mind twisting. kudos UT.

03-10-2005, 12:51 AM	#14
hampor Colloquialist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SiliValley Posts: 75	Tanks for the endless pool Any decent college crew already has a rowing tank that's kind of like the endless pool. There are some good pictures here: http://www.durhamboat.com/TANK.HTM The problem is that rowing in the tank only gets you so far. It's like training for a marathon on the stairmaster. It's better than nothing, but it's not the real thing. The hard part about rowing (besides the blisters on your palms, gasping for breath, and those times when both legs fall asleep and you have to stumble around on the dock in your socks through the goose turds) is balance. The boats balance OK if all the rowers put the oars in the water. It's when they lift oars up that the boat can flop to the left or right. If the ports each raise their blades a little, and the starboards all lower a little, then the shell is going to lean over to the left. It's kind of like balancing on a tightrope with a balance pole, except that four people are hold the left pointing half of the pole, and four are holding the right half.

03-10-2005, 04:02 AM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Thanks Hampor, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that kind of thing existed. Do those boats (shells, skulls) have any kind of keel? I know some canoes do and some don't. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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