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Old 09-25-2006, 07:16 PM   #16
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I practice heathenry.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:27 PM   #17
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If you are not actually Volkish, I think the word does not mean what you think it means.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:30 PM   #18
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I dunno, I've found that when it comes to religion, words often work the way Humpty Dumpty says they do...
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:45 AM   #19
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Oh, sometimes Heavy Metal is my religion... or noodles. Tang.
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Old 09-26-2006, 04:13 AM   #20
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They say there’s a heaven for those who will wait,
Some say it’s better but I say it ain’t,
I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints,
The sinners are much more fun...
You know that only the good die young.

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Old 09-26-2006, 06:32 AM   #21
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Jesus died for somebody's sins...
But not mine.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:38 AM   #22
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I keep thinking the last few years that nature is what we call God. And what if ancient greeks were right to believe in the 12 gods?
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:18 AM   #23
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I dislike being labeled (by myself or others). I don't feel the 'need' to belong to any particular group of religious individuals. I take what I like and leave the rest...from many different theologies. If you want to know what I believe, observe my life. It is the strongest statement I can make about them.

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Old 09-26-2006, 05:19 PM   #24
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get off the cross and save yourself

religion...bleh.
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:43 PM   #25
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I dislike being labeled (by myself or others). I don't feel the 'need' to belong to any particular group of religious individuals.
Ah, but I do need to be part of a community. In rural areas, there are not that many existing community groups, options are limited. I could, I suppose create a group around something else, say mountain biking, but it probably wouldn't connect across generations or classes the way the church does. Religion serves other functions besides spiritual.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:31 PM   #26
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A question that has long vexed me....is there any truth to the claims made by about 35% of atheists? The whole "the church hurt me deeply" thing. How many actually have some kind of horror story, and how many just don't like the idea of god telling them what to do? I stop short of saying that people who start with the "when i was a kid, the church was mean to me" line are liars, because I'm sure SOME of them must be telling the truth. It's just that ALL of them can't be. There have to be other versions of this out there. Like "I went but it was boring, and I don't believe that stuff is true." 3 cheers for directness and honesty. But this "church is evil, and its members want to devour your soul and leave your grandparents penniless" nonsense is really getting old.

I'm proud to go back to church next Sunday to see how they been doing. Been gone for 2 months, and it hasn't done me a damn bit of good.
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:35 PM   #27
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I also wonder if they can really claim to be hurt by phrases like "Under God" on money and stuff (you've heard the complaints I'm sure). If they really arn't a separate religious group then is it the same as a Muslem or Hindu being forced to look at it all the time? I mean, if you're athest then the whole thing is schlock to you anyway...
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:17 AM   #28
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As, I guess, an athiest, I definitely say that stuff like that on money and such doesnt hurt me in the slightest...

BUT
If it can be in our money and our pledge and stuff, then maybe it can be on our monuments, and then maybe we can have monuments about it and then maybe... etc.
If my money is paying for religious stuff, or if laws grounded in religion (can you say, gay marriage ban?) start getting passed, that DOES hurt me.
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:05 PM   #29
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I also wonder if they can really claim to be hurt by phrases like "Under God" on money and stuff
What would the situation be if it said "In Hermes We Trust"? It doesn't "hurt" anybody, but there would certainly be some Christians fighting to get the paganism off of the money, and I would certainly passively support them (as long as they didn't try to replace it with "God") just as I passively support people who try to get the current 50's era junk out.
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:19 PM   #30
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I also wonder if they can really claim to be hurt by phrases like "Under God" on money and stuff (you've heard the complaints I'm sure).
Is it a "complaint" or a "claim to be hurt" ??? (IE, does your claim of apples constitue a legitimate complaint regarding oranges?)
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