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01-10-2010, 02:15 PM | #1 |
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Here's how it is, and this goes back to Socrates
Smart people tell us how right they are, and how much they know.
Wise people tell us where they made terrible errors and mistakes, and how much they don't know. |
01-10-2010, 02:30 PM | #2 |
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But what's left for the dumb people to do then?
For me, it's the people who falsely or unsuccessfully try to apply this premise that are the worst, though. People who constantly tell everyone how they cop to mistakes all the time, how they are very eager to learn when they're wrong... except they aren't really. Or they spend a lot of time telling everyone else how much they (other people) don't know, and think that's the same thing as admitting that they themselves don't know. |
01-11-2010, 01:02 PM | #3 | |
I think this line's mostly filler.
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01-10-2010, 02:46 PM | #4 |
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Yah but that is the difference between Socrates and I...I really don't know? lol!
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01-10-2010, 10:27 PM | #5 |
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Such as grammar, for instance... sigh... the objective case of I is me. This happens whether the pronoun is the object of a verb or of a preposition, in this case between.
Declining pronouns is a characteristic of Germanic-group languages, of which English is one in spite of its extensive Latinate vocabulary. (It's all in what we do around verbs. They are less likely to get pushed around than nouns.) People are not being trained to any standard in English any more. My generation mostly knows better than that. [/grousing]
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01-10-2010, 10:39 PM | #6 |
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01-11-2010, 12:21 AM | #7 |
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01-21-2010, 03:04 AM | #8 |
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You can both spell, and construct a grammatical, trenchant sentence.
There will always be that irreducible core of bright folks who simply can't string a written declarative sentence together. You might consider Charles Lyell, and what Stephen Jay Gould wrote about trying to wade through his lengthy, paragraphic sentences. But then there are the ones resistant to both training and logic. Their output is wretchedly suggestive of a head constructed of carven pine throughout.
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01-21-2010, 03:08 AM | #11 |
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Dude -- sit up straight and sin no more. It's not hard.
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01-11-2010, 11:51 AM | #12 |
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01-11-2010, 12:18 PM | #13 | |
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Not to mention the little demi-god advise which Bush seemed to share. oh and all those noble lies for the good of the commoner. SEE? I'm stuck. It just HAD to come out! Even though you are going for another angle I am sure of it but those statements can be taken out of context because even though they hold a basis of truth they are so pat and cute. It is my opinion that some days people are wise and some days they are smart. It just depends upon which side of the bed I arose from and if I took my vitamin b12 for the day. Are we only really just two types. I need more information. Last edited by skysidhe; 01-11-2010 at 12:27 PM. |
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01-11-2010, 12:55 PM | #14 |
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Passive aggressive thread is passive aggressive.
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01-11-2010, 01:14 PM | #15 |
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You can take the Socrates out of it, Sky, if you like.
I think he was one of the first people to notice: that one of the smartest things he ever realized, was how much he didn't know. I think of it when I read UG or Radar arguing like this: I am right, because I am smarter than you. The first thing I notice is that this incorrect on its face; it is not a logical argument; it's an Appeal to Authority. There is a very rich irony in the "smartest" people constantly indulging in this logical fallacy. But moreover, over time, I personally find intelligence to be kind of overrated. It's a personal thing. When I was a youngster, they gave me the long psych-supervised IQ tests, and they found that I was "gifted" and at the high end of the bell curve. Now, in my middle ages, I see that this is a nice thing to have; like being good looking, or being coordinated, or getting good genes, or having rich parents. It's a little advantage you get, right out of the box. But A) it entitles you to exactly jack shit; like all the other advantages, it only matters what you do with it. And B) you wind up terribly wrong and utterly confused about a shitload of things, just like everybody else. So, as I get older, I find that I pay more attention to people with a certain humility. (And not Rk's fake humility, as Clod pointed out, where at the end of the day he's still utterly self-absorbed and it's still all about him.) |
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